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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 29, 2023, 12:52:39 AM

This is the same as if FIFA decided to host a FIFA World Cup in India when India never qualified for the FIFA World Cup. This is strange, isn't it?
The same thing will happen if ICC decides to host a big tournament in the United States of America when they do not have an International presence in cricket. They do play baseball but that is an entirely different sport.

One reason i find is that because USA is a developed country, ICC would want to host cricket competitions there rather than in underdeveloped Asian countries in the hope of getting a lot of funds.

ICC obsession with the United States is well known. They believe that at some point USA will become the cash cow for ICC, similar to the case with India now. But I am quite skeptical about it. Americans have their own leagues such as the MLB, NFL and NBA, and they haven't shown much interest in cricket, which takes 3.5 to 4.0 hours even for the shortest version. Depending on expats from South Asia, South Africa and West Indies also may not work in the long term, as the second generation immigrants show a decreasing interest in cricket when compared to first generation.

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Quote from: MusaPk on September 29, 2023, 12:26:22 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 28, 2023, 09:37:20 PM

I am not sure how profitable it will be to host the major tournaments in the United States. Whatever benefit that comes from the increased gate collection will be neutralized by decreased viewership in India due to unsuitable timeslots. Staging such tournaments in regions such as the middle-east would be a better option IMO, as the time zone is not too different from that in India. USA is significant because there is a cricket loving expat community with huge purchasing power. But their numbers are not very significant. If the ICC wants to grow the game in the US, then they need to involve the locals as well. They can't solely rely on the expats.

Nobody know what role ICC is playing to promote cricket in regions where its not popular. ICC is giving huge funds to countries like UAE and Oman who don't have even a single local player in there squad (all expats and none has the nationality). USA is different from middle east in sense that locals (immigrants from south Asia) have lots of interest in cricket and they over the period of time have got USA residency, which is not the case in middle east.

This is the same as if FIFA decided to host a FIFA World Cup in India when India never qualified for the FIFA World Cup. This is strange, isn't it?
The same thing will happen if ICC decides to host a big tournament in the United States of America when they do not have an International presence in cricket. They do play baseball but that is an entirely different sport.

One reason i find is that because USA is a developed country, ICC would want to host cricket competitions there rather than in underdeveloped Asian countries in the hope of getting a lot of funds.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 28, 2023, 09:37:20 PM

I am not sure how profitable it will be to host the major tournaments in the United States. Whatever benefit that comes from the increased gate collection will be neutralized by decreased viewership in India due to unsuitable timeslots. Staging such tournaments in regions such as the middle-east would be a better option IMO, as the time zone is not too different from that in India. USA is significant because there is a cricket loving expat community with huge purchasing power. But their numbers are not very significant. If the ICC wants to grow the game in the US, then they need to involve the locals as well. They can't solely rely on the expats.

Nobody know what role ICC is playing to promote cricket in regions where its not popular. ICC is giving huge funds to countries like UAE and Oman who don't have even a single local player in there squad (all expats and none has the nationality). USA is different from middle east in sense that locals (immigrants from south Asia) have lots of interest in cricket and they over the period of time have got USA residency, which is not the case in middle east.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on September 28, 2023, 01:22:35 PM

Even this is first time experiment for them, but I have been believing this is going to be had good profitable for the ICC and media stakeholders because ticket price and media rights are going to give them good profit specially for the matches where we will have subcontinent teams because of their local peoples interest in this game.

Mostly SENA nations will not have luxury like subcontinent in this region but still this is going to be overall good for the all stakeholders because now we have the good number of peoples those are from subcontinent countries and their contribution is going to be vital for this event and all stakeholders.

Now here I want to mention one more thing in which matches we will have India these could be most profitable as others can face some low interest but Indians surely going to have big marginal edge.

I am not sure how profitable it will be to host the major tournaments in the United States. Whatever benefit that comes from the increased gate collection will be neutralized by decreased viewership in India due to unsuitable timeslots. Staging such tournaments in regions such as the middle-east would be a better option IMO, as the time zone is not too different from that in India. USA is significant because there is a cricket loving expat community with huge purchasing power. But their numbers are not very significant. If the ICC wants to grow the game in the US, then they need to involve the locals as well. They can't solely rely on the expats.

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Quote from: hafiztalha on September 28, 2023, 08:27:10 AM

Malaysia vs Singapore

Today is the 3rd match of Asian Games between Malaysia and Singapore teams. Now match has been finished Singapore won toss and chose to bowl first but this decide not goes to be favor in Singapore team. Malaysia team won today match by leading 73 runs. Malaysia team give a great target to Singapore 160 runs in 20 overs by losing 8 wickets. V.Sing and S.Aziz both players perform awesome in today match and V.Singh scored 44 runs in 34 balls and S.Aziz scored 39 runs in 25 balls. In bowling lineup, P.Singh, A Rahman and M.Amir all players took 2 wickets against Singapore team. Single Player of Singapore team not perform well instead J.Parkesh

Only in the Asian games,we can able to get the game of the Malaysia and Singapore.In the World Cup also,this team was not participating,Singapore got the toss win.The blunder done by the Singapore to choose the bowling.Because this ground is totally favour the batting,if the Singapore had choose the batting and fix the big score.It will be the better option for the Singapore to score the big score like 180-200 runs.The chasing game of the Singapore was highly need to improve by seeing today match this was opinion.The bowling of the Malaysia was good,every bowler had take the responsibility and made a early wicket.

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After much speculation Bangladesh has finally announced their World Cup squad and they have already reached India to play the World Cup. At one time it seemed that it would be a very difficult task for BCB to announce the team and we might not see the World Cup team on time but after a lot of drama BCB announced the World Cup where Tamim was excluded from the XI announced for this World Cup.
Tamim's fans have been agitating on other places including social media due to Tamim's exclusion from the playing XI.

In my little knowledge, Bangladesh definitely needed a dashing opening batsman like Tamim. In the Asia Cup, we noticed the obvious weakness of the opening pair, so if Tamim Iqbal was included in the team after seeing that weakness, then Bangladesh would get a very good support in the opening.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 27, 2023, 09:27:50 PM

Ticket prices are very steep for major cricket events in the United States. So the organizers will be in profit, even if half of the stands are empty. Even during the Major League Cricket, the stadiums were mostly empty for a majority of the matches, but the organizers received a substantial gate collection, as tickets were prices anywhere from $30 and $98 (almost 5-10 times the ticket rates in South Asia). For matches involving sub-continental teams, there will be sizeable attendance. But I am not sure about those for SENA nations such as New Zealand and Australia.

Even this is first time experiment for them, but I have been believing this is going to be had good profitable for the ICC and media stakeholders because ticket price and media rights are going to give them good profit specially for the matches where we will have subcontinent teams because of their local peoples interest in this game.

Mostly SENA nations will not have luxury like subcontinent in this region but still this is going to be overall good for the all stakeholders because now we have the good number of peoples those are from subcontinent countries and their contribution is going to be vital for this event and all stakeholders.

Now here I want to mention one more thing in which matches we will have India these could be most profitable as others can face some low interest but Indians surely going to have big marginal edge.

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Malaysia vs Singapore

Today is the 3rd match of Asian Games between Malaysia and Singapore teams. Now match has been finished Singapore won toss and chose to bowl first but this decide not goes to be favor in Singapore team. Malaysia team won today match by leading 73 runs. Malaysia team give a great target to Singapore 160 runs in 20 overs by losing 8 wickets. V.Sing and S.Aziz both players perform awesome in today match and V.Singh scored 44 runs in 34 balls and S.Aziz scored 39 runs in 25 balls. In bowling lineup, P.Singh, A Rahman and M.Amir all players took 2 wickets against Singapore team. Single Player of Singapore team not perform well instead J.Parkesh

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Quote from: Minecache on September 27, 2023, 11:15:02 AM

I hope they will be able to manage their time perfectly. Otherwise, the viewership is definitely going to go down a lot.

By the way, what do you guys think about the attendance in the stadium in the USA? Do you guys think that attendance is going to be low just because the World Cup is going to be played in USA? I don’t think that half of the stadium is going to be empty. But there are certainly going to be some empty seats in my opinion.

After all, I do not think USA is really interested in cricket, to be honest. I also think that most of the time the stadium is going to be filled with people from the subcontinent and from other countries who are actually interested in cricket.

Ticket prices are very steep for major cricket events in the United States. So the organizers will be in profit, even if half of the stands are empty. Even during the Major League Cricket, the stadiums were mostly empty for a majority of the matches, but the organizers received a substantial gate collection, as tickets were prices anywhere from $30 and $98 (almost 5-10 times the ticket rates in South Asia). For matches involving sub-continental teams, there will be sizeable attendance. But I am not sure about those for SENA nations such as New Zealand and Australia.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 26, 2023, 09:10:08 PM

The third venue (Eisenhower Park Stadium in East Meadow) is also in the same time zone as Florida.

Was listening to Twitter Spaces some time back and this Eisenhower Park stadium will likely host India vs Pakistan and the very same stadium is a work in progress.

Quote from: Minecache on September 27, 2023, 11:15:02 AM

By the way, what do you guys think about the attendance in the stadium in the USA? Do you guys think that attendance is going to be low just because the World Cup is going to be played in USA? I don’t think that half of the stadium is going to be empty. But there are certainly going to be some empty seats in my opinion.

After all, I do not think USA is really interested in cricket, to be honest. I also think that most of the time the stadium is going to be filled with people from the subcontinent and from other countries who are actually interested in cricket.

Attendance won't be a big issue as stand capacity won't be more than 30-35k. Ticket pricing could be tricky tho, these guys messed up India vs Windies fixture (bilateral) by charging so much money.

But still, Ind vs Pak is the main event so people will surely line up for the tickets.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 26, 2023, 09:10:08 PM

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I believe hosting some part of T-20 WC in the USA will give some reality check to ICC and broadcasters. ATM they are planning to host the biggest premier match of Ind vs Pak there.

Pro - It'll be a superhit in terms of gate money.

Cons - The Timezone is not suitable for the Indian prime time slot unless they start a match in the morning like 8-10 am. Also, the Stadium is in work in progress.

I believe that they will start the match at around 9am in Florida, which would mean that in India, the matches will start by 7:30pm. Even if they delay it by 1 hour, it will still stay in prime time. So I am not worried by that much about the match timings. AFAIK, the match between India and Pakistan will be played at the Central Broward Park in Lauderhill. On the other hand, if the match is scheduled at the Grand Prairie Stadium, then it is going to be an issue. The third venue (Eisenhower Park Stadium in East Meadow) is also in the same time zone as Florida.

I hope they will be able to manage their time perfectly. Otherwise, the viewership is definitely going to go down a lot.

By the way, what do you guys think about the attendance in the stadium in the USA? Do you guys think that attendance is going to be low just because the World Cup is going to be played in USA? I don’t think that half of the stadium is going to be empty. But there are certainly going to be some empty seats in my opinion.

After all, I do not think USA is really interested in cricket, to be honest. I also think that most of the time the stadium is going to be filled with people from the subcontinent and from other countries who are actually interested in cricket.

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Australia vs India

Today is the last match of Odi series between Australia and India 3 of 3. India already lead by two matches from Australia team both matchs win by India due to strong performance. I really miss this series and also I really enjoyed those matches and this is last match so I feel disappointed and other good news is that icc world cup will start on tomorrow. Now match in full suspension mode Australia set high target and performed top class performance in today and set 352 runs in overs. Now India batting started and almost match played they scored 171 runs in 27 overs. They need 182 runs in 22 overs mean in 120 balls and they still have a chance win this match and chase down big target.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 26, 2023, 07:18:08 PM

I believe hosting some part of T-20 WC in the USA will give some reality check to ICC and broadcasters. ATM they are planning to host the biggest premier match of Ind vs Pak there.

Pro - It'll be a superhit in terms of gate money.

Cons - The Timezone is not suitable for the Indian prime time slot unless they start a match in the morning like 8-10 am. Also, the Stadium is in work in progress.

I believe that they will start the match at around 9am in Florida, which would mean that in India, the matches will start by 7:30pm. Even if they delay it by 1 hour, it will still stay in prime time. So I am not worried by that much about the match timings. AFAIK, the match between India and Pakistan will be played at the Central Broward Park in Lauderhill. On the other hand, if the match is scheduled at the Grand Prairie Stadium, then it is going to be an issue. The third venue (Eisenhower Park Stadium in East Meadow) is also in the same time zone as Florida.

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I believe hosting some part of T-20 WC in the USA will give some reality check to ICC and broadcasters. ATM they are planning to host the biggest premier match of Ind vs Pak there.

Pro - It'll be a superhit in terms of gate money.

Cons - The Timezone is not suitable for the Indian prime time slot unless they start a match in the morning like 8-10 am. Also, the Stadium is in work in progress.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 26, 2023, 11:31:27 AM

Some valid points. The ICC is actually trying to increase interest though in cricket through the T-10 and T-20 formats which is slowly and steadily attracting viewers from not just the US, but from around the world.

However, I disagree with your statement about interest decreasing among Indians. For example, IPL's constant viewership records every year disprove your statement.

Well.. you misunderstood my statement. I was saying that interest is waning among the Indian-Americans, and not among the Indians in India. I have heard several reports about American born Indian-Americans getting more interested in sports leagues that are more popular in that country, such as the NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL. Recently the USACA conducted the Major League Cricket (MLC) in a few venues within the US, but again interest mostly came from the first-generation immigrants. I didn't noticed large number of locals among the audience.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 25, 2023, 09:34:27 PM

Out of the total population of 332 million, Indian-Americans are around 1.3% (4 million). There are a few million from other ethnic groups that play cricket, such as Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis, Lankans, Australians, South Africans and West Indians. But overall, not more than 2-3% of the US population knows to play cricket. And the focus of ICC has been this expat population rather than the natives. However, cricket is on the decline among Indians and other South Asians. US-born children mostly prefer basketball or baseball. And so far the ICC has failed to spread cricket among the local population.

Some valid points. The ICC is actually trying to increase interest though in cricket through the T-10 and T-20 formats which is slowly and steadily attracting viewers from not just the US, but from around the world.

However, I disagree with your statement about interest decreasing among Indians. For example, IPL's constant viewership records every year disprove your statement.

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Asian Games men's cricket tournament will start tomorrow, with the first set of group phase matches. Mongolia is taking on Nepal, and Cambodia will be playing against Japan tomorrow. 9 teams are divided into 3 groups, with the winners proceeding to Quarter-finals. The five test nations are already given direct entry to the QF stage. So in total, 14 teams are participating. India will be hoping for a gold medal here as well, after winning the women's gold yesterday. But it is going to be tough as all the test nations have sent strong teams.

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England vs Ireland

Second ODI match between England and Ireland lived. Ireland won toss and decide to bowling first. England batting performance has been commendable. England played 30 over and scored 194 runs while losing 3 wicket. Ireland seems to be difficult situation because bowling performance not good. If England continues this performance they successfully set a target of 300 or more runs.

Ireland right now need 73 runs in 37 balls. There is 27 runs last wicket partnership going on. Chances of Ireland winning this game are very rear but they are doing good by giving a good fight. England scored 334 runs in 50 overs and Ireland in replay are not giving a good fight by scoring 262 runs and still one wicket in hand. Ireland cricket is improving day by day and soon they can get regular test status.

Yes, Ireland team has shown significant improvement in ongoing ODI series against England team. In the previous series between England and Ireland , Ireland performance was quite poor but in this ODI they have improve many mistakes especially in batting lineup. First match suspended due to rain but in second match, England set a tough target. Despite England's already has a strong team Ireland has been working on correcting their mistakes and improving their weak points. The next and final match of this ODI series is played on 26 Sep and hoped that Ireland will show an even better performance than the previous match and secure a victory.

In the match between England and Ireland, Ireland improved quite a bit but could not save wickets. The fall of wickets was high which ultimately led to an all out and departure from the field. If Ireland could have kept their wickets in this match, it would have been a competitive match in the end. Because I can see that England is a strong team compared to England Ireland is not strong so it is natural that Ireland has a weakness in these matches. The bowling line of England team is weak and has pace which is ready to counter the Ireland team. If the Tucker players of the Ireland team could have collected something, we could have seen a competitive match here.

@Popkon6 Ireland showed great resilience in this match and they came almost close to causing an upset but sadly they kept losing wickets constantly. Also even though England won they should use this match as an urgent wake-up call and further work on their game otherwise in near future they’ll be easily be beaten by the other team’s and lastly I expect England to perform much better in today’s match.

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England vs Ireland

Second ODI match between England and Ireland lived. Ireland won toss and decide to bowling first. England batting performance has been commendable. England played 30 over and scored 194 runs while losing 3 wicket. Ireland seems to be difficult situation because bowling performance not good. If England continues this performance they successfully set a target of 300 or more runs.

Ireland right now need 73 runs in 37 balls. There is 27 runs last wicket partnership going on. Chances of Ireland winning this game are very rear but they are doing good by giving a good fight. England scored 334 runs in 50 overs and Ireland in replay are not giving a good fight by scoring 262 runs and still one wicket in hand. Ireland cricket is improving day by day and soon they can get regular test status.

Yes, Ireland team has shown significant improvement in ongoing ODI series against England team. In the previous series between England and Ireland , Ireland performance was quite poor but in this ODI they have improve many mistakes especially in batting lineup. First match suspended due to rain but in second match, England set a tough target. Despite England's already has a strong team Ireland has been working on correcting their mistakes and improving their weak points. The next and final match of this ODI series is played on 26 Sep and hoped that Ireland will show an even better performance than the previous match and secure a victory.

In the match between England and Ireland, Ireland improved quite a bit but could not save wickets. The fall of wickets was high which ultimately led to an all out and departure from the field. If Ireland could have kept their wickets in this match, it would have been a competitive match in the end. Because I can see that England is a strong team compared to England Ireland is not strong so it is natural that Ireland has a weakness in these matches. The bowling line of England team is weak and has pace which is ready to counter the Ireland team. If the Tucker players of the Ireland team could have collected something, we could have seen a competitive match here.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on September 24, 2023, 01:01:57 PM

Lol. Do you know how many Indians live in the US currently? I think 25% of India's population resides in the US itself. Many of them are cricket fans. If you include citizens from other cricket loving countries, you get the point basically.

This is why it makes complete sense as to why the USA is interested in the beautiful game of cricket.

Out of the total population of 332 million, Indian-Americans are around 1.3% (4 million). There are a few million from other ethnic groups that play cricket, such as Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis, Lankans, Australians, South Africans and West Indians. But overall, not more than 2-3% of the US population knows to play cricket. And the focus of ICC has been this expat population rather than the natives. However, cricket is on the decline among Indians and other South Asians. US-born children mostly prefer basketball or baseball. And so far the ICC has failed to spread cricket among the local population.

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