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Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

Well, are we talking about the stadiums in India for the upcoming world cup Huh

What is wrong with those stadiums as we already witness the 2 months long IPL in the same stadiums and everything looks good on the TV screen? Is there any problem related to the conditions and facilities provided in those cricket venues?

There's nothing wrong with that stadium.
I'm just aligning the previous feedback about the management and also the full thing about the stadium.
In India, cricket is one of the superior sports and many Indians are very enthusiastic about cricket farming there.
When talking about the facilities and also the eligibility of the Indian Stadium, it has a capacity for a large enough audience and all the facilities are quite perfect so there are not the slightest problems there.

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Stuart Broad has seriously lost his marbles. He keeps reiterating the fact that what Carey did goes against the spirit of cricket when he himself didn't walk off after edging a delivery several years ago.

Also, who can forget his captain's crazy antics during the last ODI World Cup final? England needs to get their act together in the upcoming matches.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 04, 2023, 10:44:44 PM

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

Even many things are possible which can increase facilities and awareness about many things but here the biggest problem is set up which is completely under control of politicians which are never been happy to give good things to common peoples even now we are on good change but still we have too many issues which are also needs overhaul changes which are just possible if we all understand and start campaign for this but here nothing happening anything like this as in above post someone mentions the biggest problem is nepotism and political influence which is killing the beauty and bringing the peoples those not deserve for these spots.

Sports is the biggest industry in world and India also can take good benefit but for this we need central control and many good changes which bring professionalism and authority of the organization to sit and talk about better changes, but it's not happening in near future even we can go like USA or Australia even like China which are dominating countries in sports and taking good benefit of this all with private cooperation.

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From what I have learnt from other posters, these are the issues:

1. Food is overpriced and of low quality
2. Security arrangements are not up to the mark
3. Inadequate facilities for parking
4. Crowd management almost inexistent
5. Lack of hygiene and poor maintenance of washrooms
6. Items like wallet and car keys not allowed inside the stadiums
7. Lack of drinking water
8. Need to wait up to 2 hours in the queue to get entry to the stadiums

Well, don't you think that these issues are common for most of the stadiums in India, Pakistan, Srilanka and Bangladesh. Asian countries have more or less the same issues and I would not call it something too big a concern. We are used to such conditions.
In Pakistan, we have the same issue as people standing outside the stadiums, we have to park our cars about 4 to 5 KM away from the stadium and then there are shuttle vans that take us to the stadium.
Food provided inside the stadiums is always expensive as no one is allowed to bring eatable from outside. Most of these things are done for security purposes because it is difficult to manage an Asian / Sub-continent crowd as compared to the English / Australian crowd.

One thing which surprises me is that you can't take your wallet or car keys with you in the stadium. If so where do they place thier keys in case they come on car to watch the match Huh

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 04, 2023, 10:12:24 PM

Well, are we talking about the stadiums in India for the upcoming world cup Huh

What is wrong with those stadiums as we already witness the 2 months long IPL in the same stadiums and everything looks good on the TV screen? Is there any problem related to the conditions and facilities provided in those cricket venues?

From what I have learnt from other posters, these are the issues:

1. Food is overpriced and of low quality
2. Security arrangements are not up to the mark
3. Inadequate facilities for parking
4. Crowd management almost inexistent
5. Lack of hygiene and poor maintenance of washrooms
6. Items like wallet and car keys not allowed inside the stadiums
7. Lack of drinking water
8. Need to wait up to 2 hours in the queue to get entry to the stadiums

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Quote from: Juggy777 on July 04, 2023, 02:38:13 AM

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

Well, are we talking about the stadiums in India for the upcoming world cup Huh

What is wrong with those stadiums as we already witness the 2 months long IPL in the same stadiums and everything looks good on the TV screen? Is there any problem related to the conditions and facilities provided in those cricket venues?

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Quote from: eaLiTy on July 04, 2023, 07:00:05 PM

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

@tusandii I don’t expect any major changes unless people stop going to stadium’s but the irony is that no one will stop because of their love for this sport and hence neither of the parties need to reinvest further for developing these stadiums. Furthermore to bring changes voice needs to raised on social media, someone influential needs to make big statements on this and only then will the general public wake-up and demand better treatment for themselves.

How can someone who likes and loves their pride team not go to the stadium to watch the match taking place.
Maybe there are some people who also watch from home by watching live broadcasts but when they have time they will immediately flock to the stadium.

No one is not tempted by investing in a sports industry because it can generate a lot of money, moreover investing in a stadium will attract more and more rich people.
You can understand how the sports industry is currently developing and every match is never empty of spectators.
There's nothing better than coming straight to the stadium to support a proud team.

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It is not about respecting the spectators, like Sithara007 mentioned the backend money they receive is mandatory in every sector. I am aware of these practices because there was a time i met with KCA authorities when matches were conducting in Kerala on behalf of my relative as he was a contractor and they demand things and all they look forward is the backend money and the commission, the same situation in any government contracts as well.

Without commissions and bribes you can't get any contracts in India. And that is one of the reasons for the poor quality of infrastructure within the stadiums. Contractors maybe capable of constructing high quality facilities. But after kickbacks, there is not enough money left to make a profit. So obviously cost-cutting measures will be implemented and it will impact the quality. India is a country where corruption is prevalent in all the spheres and it has become normalized. People have learnt to live with corruption.

In terms of overall volumes, the largest amount of bribes are pocketed by those in administration (IAS/IPS), followed by the politicians. In India, a large part of the IAS/IPS comes from Bihar. The very purpose of getting in to the administration is to start earning hundreds of millions of INR in bribes. Sports bodies are not as corrupt as some of the other domains. But then we have people like Rupa Gurunath and Sharad Pawar in various state associations.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 03, 2023, 09:36:21 AM

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"Chalta hai" Attitude might be one of the reasons but to me, main reason looks like, these guys just don't respect spectators and the public.

These folks know that there is more than enough demand and even if they treat their audience like shit, they will still come in masses.

It is not about respecting the spectators, like Sithara007 mentioned the backend money they receive is mandatory in every sector. I am aware of these practices because there was a time i met with KCA authorities when matches were conducting in Kerala on behalf of my relative as he was a contractor and they demand things and all they look forward is the backend money and the commission, the same situation in any government contracts as well.

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The latest news from BCCI is that they will be sending teams for the first time to the Asian Games (to be held in Hangzhou from 23rd September). On two previous occasions (2010 and 2014) the BCCI refused to send teams, since they were against the idea of participation in multi-sport events. As per reports, Shikhar Dhawan is likely to lead the men's team. Sanju Samson fans have started their tirade against Dhawan, claiming that Samson should be leading the team. VVS Laxman is likely to be the coach. There is a BCCI Apex Council Meeting later this week, and the decision will be formalized by then.

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Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

@tusandii I don’t expect any major changes unless people stop going to stadium’s but the irony is that no one will stop because of their love for this sport and hence neither of the parties need to reinvest further for developing these stadiums. Furthermore to bring changes voice needs to raised on social media, someone influential needs to make big statements on this and only then will the general public wake-up and demand better treatment for themselves.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 03, 2023, 09:36:21 AM

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

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"Chalta hai" Attitude might be one of the reasons but to me, main reason looks like, these guys just don't respect spectators and the public.

These folks know that there is more than enough demand and even if they treat their audience like shit, they will still come in masses.

If the spectators don't have self-respect then how can they demand respect from the BCCI guys and politicians? Despite being treated like shit, hardly anyone ever complains about it. In India, corruption and nepotism has become a part of the life. It is prevalent in all the sectors, including the Supreme Court and the IAS/IPS establishment. Ordinary people doesn't care about it anymore. All they care is whether they can get some freebies or not. In India, all the recent state elections were won by parties who promised freebies to the people. One celebrity even claimed that for free tickets in public transport Indian males would be ready to wear burqa:

https://twitter.com/MeghUpdates/status/1668507433751420928

Unless there is some mass boycott campaign (something similar to the one ongoing against Bollywood), no one is going to listen.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 02, 2023, 10:20:00 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on July 02, 2023, 10:20:00 PM

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

In general there is a "chalta hai" attitude all across India. Tickets are in short supply and demand is huge. Administrators (both from the BCCI and state/municipal governments) think that they are doing some sort of charity by allowing fans inside the stadiums. And level of corruption is just huge. At each and every level, commissions are involved. Food vendors and washroom maintenance contractors are selected on the basis of who can pay the maximum amount of bribes, and not based on their quality of work. Given this, you should not be surprised about the lack of quality.

"Chalta hai" Attitude might be one of the reasons but to me, main reason looks like, these guys just don't respect spectators and the public.

These folks know that there is more than enough demand and even if they treat their audience like shit, they will still come in masses.

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Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.
Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

In general there is a "chalta hai" attitude all across India. Tickets are in short supply and demand is huge. Administrators (both from the BCCI and state/municipal governments) think that they are doing some sort of charity by allowing fans inside the stadiums. And level of corruption is just huge. At each and every level, commissions are involved. Food vendors and washroom maintenance contractors are selected on the basis of who can pay the maximum amount of bribes, and not based on their quality of work. Given this, you should not be surprised about the lack of quality.

India has actually started to get so much money from cricket that they are probably thinking this is going to be enough. Just like you said “Chalta hai“. That is not going to be good enough for them. Especially when they know that inflation is becoming unreal in recent times. And they are thinking of the fans like they are superior from the fans. They should understand that the fans are the ones keeping cricket alive. They should take care of the people who are paying to buy the tickets. But the problem is as I said the superiority complex for the people in authority. It actually exists in every country. But I don’t think it exists anywhere like it does in India. And of course, when they are going to have the “chalta hai” attitude the quality is going to be hampered.

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Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

In general there is a "chalta hai" attitude all across India. Tickets are in short supply and demand is huge. Administrators (both from the BCCI and state/municipal governments) think that they are doing some sort of charity by allowing fans inside the stadiums. And level of corruption is just huge. At each and every level, commissions are involved. Food vendors and washroom maintenance contractors are selected on the basis of who can pay the maximum amount of bribes, and not based on their quality of work. Given this, you should not be surprised about the lack of quality.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on July 01, 2023, 03:43:33 PM

Quote from: eaLiTy on July 01, 2023, 03:43:33 PM

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But they are still shitty when it comes to their own cricketing infrastructure. If we leave out VIP boxes then it's a very sad situation in every stadium, Motera might be exceptional but the ones i have attended so far, the majority of em were really bad. During IPL they are okay but everything goes down to shit when it's over.

From what i understand the BCCI is not funding the state Cricket boards to built stadiums, all the infrastructure should be maintained by the respected owners, some are privately held and some are held by the respective state boards and the stadiums that meets the BCCI standards will get the opportunity to host International matches.
The exception you mentioned about Motera Stadium is simply because it is renovated recently, all new stadiums will have the same quality and the older it gets and the way in which they maintain, the quality goes down.

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.
Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

Well, I actually don’t think we can call it ignorance. Because a nation is not going to improve when the people are going to watch cricket for hours and hours and basically be ideal. As we all know cricket is a very time consuming game. The world has moved on a lot from where it was five years ago. Now everyone is interested in earning more money. A single job is not sufficient to keep our family well-fed in most of the countries.

When we talk about the stadiums being managed properly, I think you guys are right on one thing that the stadium or not being managed properly. Because in almost all the countries, there are enough rich people who are always willing to waste money. So with proper management of the stadiums, I think any country can actually generate good enough money.

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But they are still shitty when it comes to their own cricketing infrastructure. If we leave out VIP boxes then it's a very sad situation in every stadium, Motera might be exceptional but the ones i have attended so far, the majority of em were really bad. During IPL they are okay but everything goes down to shit when it's over.

From what i understand the BCCI is not funding the state Cricket boards to built stadiums, all the infrastructure should be maintained by the respected owners, some are privately held and some are held by the respective state boards and the stadiums that meets the BCCI standards will get the opportunity to host International matches.

The exception you mentioned about Motera Stadium is simply because it is renovated recently, all new stadiums will have the same quality and the older it gets and the way in which they maintain, the quality goes down.

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 30, 2023, 06:06:59 PM

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But they are still shitty when it comes to their own cricketing infrastructure. If we leave out VIP boxes then it's a very sad situation in every stadium, Motera might be exceptional but the ones i have attended so far, the majority of em were really bad. During IPL they are okay but everything goes down to shit when it's over.

From what i understand the BCCI is not funding the state Cricket boards to built stadiums, all the infrastructure should be maintained by the respected owners, some are privately held and some are held by the respective state boards and the stadiums that meets the BCCI standards will get the opportunity to host International matches.

The exception you mentioned about Motera Stadium is simply because it is renovated recently, all new stadiums will have the same quality and the older it gets and the way in which they maintain, the quality goes down.

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