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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls. This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.

Considering the safety of the players, this rule of ICC is really a very commendable initiative. Before this rule. till now wearing helmet was completely personal matter of batsmen and wicket keepers but ICC is going to make this personal matter mandatory. Now, when batting or fielding against fast bowlers, a batsman or wicket keeper has to wear a helmet even if he doesn't want to.
I said it is a reasonable concern because many cricketers have died or become paralyzed for life after coming to play cricket, so if this is made mandatory, the players' lives will not be at risk.

I am not going to argue against this rule but still I am not happy with this because even with helmet we can't stop things which can ruin player's career, and they still can lose life with this is not happening we have incidents in Soccer, Rugby and American Football as well even they are also using many precautious about this all.

Now, having mandatory this not make sense to me because while fast bowler is bowling and wicket keeper is standing far behind this not ideal situation for him to wear helmet with during spin bowling he is standing alongside wickets, so this is okay but now having things like this are not ideal for the cricket game but as ICC doing with all boards are agreed with this all it's going to happen in near future.

First of all as I understand this rule only apply on a fast bowling and not on the spin bowling. The batsman already wear helmet when a fast bowler is bowling so there is nothing change in this part however the wicket keeper usually stand very far away and there was no need for him to wear the helmet at that time.

It will be interesting to know how the Wicket keepers around the world will react to this new ICC rule which will just create more irritation to them rather than any safety 🛟 🦺

Earlier, there was no compulsion to wear a helmet if bowlers bowled fast, but now wicketkeepers and batsmen must wear helmets if bowlers bowl fast or medium fast bowlers.

In many matches I have seen when a medium fast bowler comes to bowl wicket keepers and batsmen are batting without helmet which is very dangerous because the most sensitive part of our body is our brain is likely to occur. Such rules are usually made to avoid that accident.

I don't think any wicket keeper will react to ICC's imposition of this rule as it is purely for his own safety.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 16, 2023, 10:49:54 PM

Don't know whether it makes economic sense to have franchise T20 leagues in these small countries. Even full member nations such as South Africa and Sri Lanka struggled to launch their T20 leagues. The main issue is that a lion's share of the revenue comes from India, and I don't think that countries such as Malaysia have a good potential to earn cricket revenues from the domestic market. And when they are dependent on India for the revenues, it is important to have players from India. And that is tricky, given the BCCI's rejection of overseas T20 leagues.

Most chances in early few seasons they will be not in profit but after having few good years they can do better but here I want to add few things Southeast Asia is economically very strong, and they already have ASEAN which is doing amazing in many fields and sports as well so here MCA needs to be realistic with go with seven or eight teams and few franchise from Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam as well because this will create good craze, and they can improve their quality and market as well.

With most chances I am not agreed here they need Indian market as well because ASEAN is also well populated region and their market is also well organized, so they can do things without any help as well which is also good for them, and surely they can do these things better than South Africa and Sri Lanka.

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Quote from: Tony116 on May 17, 2023, 01:57:59 PM

It is hard to actually get good revenue if you do not have Indian players taking part in the franchises. There is 1 other way wages you have to have a good world-class blessing in your country for the spectator will be to watch.

But sadly there do not have anyone like that in my opinion. I don't see how anyone is going to do well with revenue in these T20 leagues. But I think it can be used to make cricket more popular towards the nation for these associate countries. But I would suggest that the investment should be kept small. They better or not look at the IPL and start investing huge amounts of money in their own T20 league.

Since the associate nations can expect near zero support from the ICC, my suggestion to them would be to look for other sources of revenue. However, unless cricket is included in the Olympics, the governments are not going to help the national cricket boards. The only option left is to get revenue through sponsorships and TV rights. But this can't happen unless cricket is popular across the country. And that is the issue with smaller countries such as Malaysia. Cricket is not as popular as some of the other sports, such as football and badminton.

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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls. This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.

Considering the safety of the players, this rule of ICC is really a very commendable initiative. Before this rule. till now wearing helmet was completely personal matter of batsmen and wicket keepers but ICC is going to make this personal matter mandatory. Now, when batting or fielding against fast bowlers, a batsman or wicket keeper has to wear a helmet even if he doesn't want to.
I said it is a reasonable concern because many cricketers have died or become paralyzed for life after coming to play cricket, so if this is made mandatory, the players' lives will not be at risk.

I am not going to argue against this rule but still I am not happy with this because even with helmet we can't stop things which can ruin player's career, and they still can lose life with this is not happening we have incidents in Soccer, Rugby and American Football as well even they are also using many precautious about this all.

Now, having mandatory this not make sense to me because while fast bowler is bowling and wicket keeper is standing far behind this not ideal situation for him to wear helmet with during spin bowling he is standing alongside wickets, so this is okay but now having things like this are not ideal for the cricket game but as ICC doing with all boards are agreed with this all it's going to happen in near future.

First of all as I understand this rule only apply on a fast bowling and not on the spin bowling. The batsman already wear helmet when a fast bowler is bowling so there is nothing change in this part however the wicket keeper usually stand very far away and there was no need for him to wear the helmet at that time.

It will be interesting to know how the Wicket keepers around the world will react to this new ICC rule which will just create more irritation to them rather than any safety 🛟 🦺

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Quote from: Tony116 on May 17, 2023, 01:57:59 PM

It is hard to actually get good revenue if you do not have Indian players taking part in the franchises. There is 1 other way wages you have to have a good world-class blessing in your country for the spectator will be to watch.

But sadly there do not have anyone like that in my opinion. I don't see how anyone is going to do well with revenue in these T20 leagues. But I think it can be used to make cricket more popular towards the nation for these associate countries. But I would suggest that the investment should be kept small. They better or not look at the IPL and start investing huge amounts of money in their own T20 league.

It may be this all is correct about their finances but still they can go ahead with their project because they can afford things like this even they have no luxury like the UAE or Saudi Arab which are oil rich countries and doing things for their own with money and power but still I am happy with them and their homework which is they doing for this game.

BCCI will never allow their players for any franchise league because they understand this all and just because of this ban they have the biggest revenue collected league in India which is not challengeable in current cricket world but hopefully few other leagues will be able to go ahead with their own and have better results even MCA can face few problems due to time and availability of International players.

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It's good news for the game of cricket as now we have too many countries are interested in franchise cricket specially which are economically strong because this will help them and also few other boards which will be able to send their players here in these leagues for experience and money as well but sadly here we have one issue we have no luxury like soccer as too many leagues can go through once and all have equal fanbase even this is possible but surely going to take good time.
MCA is surely doing good, and they can do much better than many countries but here I want they try to have support from few other regional countries as well which will create good interest in this region like they have Southeast Asian games franchise like this surely can help them better financially with fanbase could be also huge.

Don't know whether it makes economic sense to have franchise T20 leagues in these small countries. Even full member nations such as South Africa and Sri Lanka struggled to launch their T20 leagues. The main issue is that a lion's share of the revenue comes from India, and I don't think that countries such as Malaysia have a good potential to earn cricket revenues from the domestic market. And when they are dependent on India for the revenues, it is important to have players from India. And that is tricky, given the BCCI's rejection of overseas T20 leagues.

It is hard to actually get good revenue if you do not have Indian players taking part in the franchises. There is 1 other way wages you have to have a good world-class blessing in your country for the spectator will be to watch.

But sadly there do not have anyone like that in my opinion. I don't see how anyone is going to do well with revenue in these T20 leagues. But I think it can be used to make cricket more popular towards the nation for these associate countries. But I would suggest that the investment should be kept small. They better or not look at the IPL and start investing huge amounts of money in their own T20 league.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on May 16, 2023, 01:51:35 AM

New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls. This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.

Considering the safety of the players, this rule of ICC is really a very commendable initiative. Before this rule. till now wearing helmet was completely personal matter of batsmen and wicket keepers but ICC is going to make this personal matter mandatory. Now, when batting or fielding against fast bowlers, a batsman or wicket keeper has to wear a helmet even if he doesn't want to.
I said it is a reasonable concern because many cricketers have died or become paralyzed for life after coming to play cricket, so if this is made mandatory, the players' lives will not be at risk.

I am not going to argue against this rule but still I am not happy with this because even with helmet we can't stop things which can ruin player's career, and they still can lose life with this is not happening we have incidents in Soccer, Rugby and American Football as well even they are also using many precautious about this all.

Now, having mandatory this not make sense to me because while fast bowler is bowling and wicket keeper is standing far behind this not ideal situation for him to wear helmet with during spin bowling he is standing alongside wickets, so this is okay but now having things like this are not ideal for the cricket game but as ICC doing with all boards are agreed with this all it's going to happen in near future.

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Quote from: justdimin on May 16, 2023, 06:04:40 AM

It's good news for the game of cricket as now we have too many countries are interested in franchise cricket specially which are economically strong because this will help them and also few other boards which will be able to send their players here in these leagues for experience and money as well but sadly here we have one issue we have no luxury like soccer as too many leagues can go through once and all have equal fanbase even this is possible but surely going to take good time.

MCA is surely doing good, and they can do much better than many countries but here I want they try to have support from few other regional countries as well which will create good interest in this region like they have Southeast Asian games franchise like this surely can help them better financially with fanbase could be also huge.

Don't know whether it makes economic sense to have franchise T20 leagues in these small countries. Even full member nations such as South Africa and Sri Lanka struggled to launch their T20 leagues. The main issue is that a lion's share of the revenue comes from India, and I don't think that countries such as Malaysia have a good potential to earn cricket revenues from the domestic market. And when they are dependent on India for the revenues, it is important to have players from India. And that is tricky, given the BCCI's rejection of overseas T20 leagues.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on May 16, 2023, 01:51:35 AM

New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls. This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.

Considering the safety of the players, this rule of ICC is really a very commendable initiative. Before this rule. till now wearing helmet was completely personal matter of batsmen and wicket keepers but ICC is going to make this personal matter mandatory. Now, when batting or fielding against fast bowlers, a batsman or wicket keeper has to wear a helmet even if he doesn't want to.
I said it is a reasonable concern because many cricketers have died or become paralyzed for life after coming to play cricket, so if this is made mandatory, the players' lives will not be at risk.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 15, 2023, 11:02:23 PM

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@Sithara007 not surprised to see another country trying to cash out on the success of the T20 format but I doubt that any big star player especially from the big 3 will participate. Furthermore this league will probably be home to the reserve squad of national team’s and player’s who can’t play in league like IPL hence I don’t expect much viewership for them apart from their local fan’s.

Well.. Malaysia is not the only associate nation trying to cash in on the T20 format. Canadian Cricket Association has already announced that they will be resuming the Global T20 Canada this year. The league was started in 2018 and the second edition was staged in 2019. But after that the organizers faced some difficulties as a result of COVID and the 2020-2022 editions were cancelled. Yuvraj Singh is one of the players who will feature in GLT20. He will be representing the Toronto Nationals franchise. There are rumors that Kieron Pollard will be participating, but there is no confirmation as of now.

It's good news for the game of cricket as now we have too many countries are interested in franchise cricket specially which are economically strong because this will help them and also few other boards which will be able to send their players here in these leagues for experience and money as well but sadly here we have one issue we have no luxury like soccer as too many leagues can go through once and all have equal fanbase even this is possible but surely going to take good time.

MCA is surely doing good, and they can do much better than many countries but here I want they try to have support from few other regional countries as well which will create good interest in this region like they have Southeast Asian games franchise like this surely can help them better financially with fanbase could be also huge.

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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,
1. Before making this rule, if the umpire had doubts about any decision, then the umpire would directly resort to the third umpire and the on-field umpire would give a soft signal according to his possibility, but this soft signal method is no longer there in the new rules of the ICC. If the umpire has one percent doubt about giving a decision, he will directly refer to the third umpire.

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls. This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.

3. And the third rule is that if the batsman scores a run without the ball hitting the bat, then that run will be added next to the batsman's name. To put it simply, if Virat Kohli is bowled by a free hit in the World Cup match between Pakistan and India, then the ball gets four on the stamp and that run is added to the team's run but not added to Virat Kohli's run. From now on that run will be added to the batsman's side

Good decision on the "soft signal" as it was a very flawed rule. Imagine a fielder claiming a catch on the boundary line and it's not a clean catch (he/she is not aware) and they started celebrating, followed by the umpire giving a soft signal out, to overrule on-field decision third umpire needed a conclusive decision. These guys should also look at the "Umpire's call" in the context of LBW.

It can be a good decision because when the field umpire gives a decision, if a fielder takes a review against that umpire's decision, then the third umpire tries his best to give importance to the decision of the field umpire. Since the new rule says to take the help of technology directly even if there is one percent doubt about any out, it is expected that 100% correct decision will be obtained in this type of review. And the controversy that would have arisen on these issues will not arise after June 1.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on May 16, 2023, 01:51:35 AM

New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,
1. Before making this rule, if the umpire had doubts about any decision, then the umpire would directly resort to the third umpire and the on-field umpire would give a soft signal according to his possibility, but this soft signal method is no longer there in the new rules of the ICC. If the umpire has one percent doubt about giving a decision, he will directly refer to the third umpire.

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls. This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.

3. And the third rule is that if the batsman scores a run without the ball hitting the bat, then that run will be added next to the batsman's name. To put it simply, if Virat Kohli is bowled by a free hit in the World Cup match between Pakistan and India, then the ball gets four on the stamp and that run is added to the team's run but not added to Virat Kohli's run. From now on that run will be added to the batsman's side

Good decision on the "soft signal" as it was a very flawed rule. Imagine a fielder claiming a catch on the boundary line and it's not a clean catch (he/she is not aware) and they started celebrating, followed by the umpire giving a soft signal out, to overrule on-field decision third umpire needed a conclusive decision. These guys should also look at the "Umpire's call" in the context of LBW.

For some reason, ICC has removed the Free-hit-bowled-scenario from their release. https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/3345795

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New rules in cricket
ICC is going to introduce three new rules in cricket from June Those rules are,
1. Before making this rule, if the umpire had doubts about any decision, then the umpire would directly resort to the third umpire and the on-field umpire would give a soft signal according to his possibility, but this soft signal method is no longer there in the new rules of the ICC. If the umpire has one percent doubt about giving a decision, he will directly refer to the third umpire.

2. The second rule is entirely for batsmen and wicket keepers. The second rule states that batsmen and wicketkeepers must wear helmets while bowling fast balls. This initiative of the ICC to ensure the safety of the players is undoubtedly commendable.

3. And the third rule is that if the batsman scores a run without the ball hitting the bat, then that run will be added next to the batsman's name. To put it simply, if Virat Kohli is bowled by a free hit in the World Cup match between Pakistan and India, then the ball gets four on the stamp and that run is added to the team's run but not added to Virat Kohli's run. From now on that run will be added to the batsman's side

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Quote from: Juggy777 on May 15, 2023, 10:33:12 PM

@Sithara007 not surprised to see another country trying to cash out on the success of the T20 format but I doubt that any big star player especially from the big 3 will participate. Furthermore this league will probably be home to the reserve squad of national team’s and player’s who can’t play in league like IPL hence I don’t expect much viewership for them apart from their local fan’s.

Well.. Malaysia is not the only associate nation trying to cash in on the T20 format. Canadian Cricket Association has already announced that they will be resuming the Global T20 Canada this year. The league was started in 2018 and the second edition was staged in 2019. But after that the organizers faced some difficulties as a result of COVID and the 2020-2022 editions were cancelled. Yuvraj Singh is one of the players who will feature in GLT20. He will be representing the Toronto Nationals franchise. There are rumors that Kieron Pollard will be participating, but there is no confirmation as of now.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 15, 2023, 09:59:03 PM

There is some exciting news from Malaysia. The Malaysian Cricket Association has announced that they will be launching a T20 league this year, comprised of 5 franchises. The league will be sponsored by IPG (who were the official promoters of the Lankan Premier League). According to Mohammed Iqbal Ali bin Kassim Ali (MCA president), local Malaysian players will get an opportunity to play with some of the top international cricket players. All the matches will be played at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. My only concern is regarding the availability of international players. The T20 league calendar already looks over-saturated.

@Sithara007 not surprised to see another country trying to cash out on the success of the T20 format but I doubt that any big star player especially from the big 3 will participate. Furthermore this league will probably be home to the reserve squad of national team’s and player’s who can’t play in league like IPL hence I don’t expect much viewership for them apart from their local fan’s.

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There is some exciting news from Malaysia. The Malaysian Cricket Association has announced that they will be launching a T20 league this year, comprised of 5 franchises. The league will be sponsored by IPG (who were the official promoters of the Lankan Premier League). According to Mohammed Iqbal Ali bin Kassim Ali (MCA president), local Malaysian players will get an opportunity to play with some of the top international cricket players. All the matches will be played at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. My only concern is regarding the availability of international players. The T20 league calendar already looks over-saturated.

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After back-to-back failures, the West Indies Cricket Board appointed a new West Indies coach for success ahead of the World Cup, with Darren Sammy appointed as the new West Indies coach for ODIs and T20Is.
A team that once ruled cricket has now failed to qualify directly for the main stage of the World Cup. Their great performances are now a golden past for them. Maybe the West Indies Cricket Board has decided to take the West Indies back to its previous state. Darren Sameer's technique is expected to be successful for the West Indies team.
There is no dearth of world class cricketers in the West Indies team but what is lacking is a good relationship between the cricket board and the players. There is no doubt that West Indies will be the strongest team in ODI and T20 cricket if there is a good relationship between the West Indies Cricket Board and the players.

Bad management and too much interference from the governments create problems, and we have downfall like West Indies once they were ruler of the cricket world, and now they are going to play qualifiers which man things are already gone from bad to worse for them, and they are not learning from their mistakes and still going with the same strategy which is not going to help them even they will be dragged and have no place in this game.
Their performance was better in white ball but in last few years now they are losing this as well which is more concerns for them if they want to have better future then surely they need to work out on all aspects which are having bad impact on their game in last few years because without checking mistakes they can't go ahead and have improvement in their quality and performance Darren Sammy was the good player hopefully he will do his best for having improvement in West Indian cricket.

There was an era of West Indies cricket where they perform really well in red ball cricket. A few years ago there perform really well in white-ball cricket. Especially in the T20 format. But now they are not performing well in that has well.

Anyway, Darren Sammy is a very young individual. He will have that hunger to perform well and prove himself. But you will need a lot of time to actually bring in results in my opinion. After all the situation of the team is not very good. Government interference and corruption will also have to decrease otherwise it is not going to matter who is in charge.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on May 15, 2023, 01:15:35 AM

After back-to-back failures, the West Indies Cricket Board appointed a new West Indies coach for success ahead of the World Cup, with Darren Sammy appointed as the new West Indies coach for ODIs and T20Is.

A team that once ruled cricket has now failed to qualify directly for the main stage of the World Cup. Their great performances are now a golden past for them. Maybe the West Indies Cricket Board has decided to take the West Indies back to its previous state. Darren Sameer's technique is expected to be successful for the West Indies team.

There is no dearth of world class cricketers in the West Indies team but what is lacking is a good relationship between the cricket board and the players. There is no doubt that West Indies will be the strongest team in ODI and T20 cricket if there is a good relationship between the West Indies Cricket Board and the players.

Bad management and too much interference from the governments create problems, and we have downfall like West Indies once they were ruler of the cricket world, and now they are going to play qualifiers which man things are already gone from bad to worse for them, and they are not learning from their mistakes and still going with the same strategy which is not going to help them even they will be dragged and have no place in this game.

Their performance was better in white ball but in last few years now they are losing this as well which is more concerns for them if they want to have better future then surely they need to work out on all aspects which are having bad impact on their game in last few years because without checking mistakes they can't go ahead and have improvement in their quality and performance Darren Sammy was the good player hopefully he will do his best for having improvement in West Indian cricket.

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After back-to-back failures, the West Indies Cricket Board appointed a new West Indies coach for success ahead of the World Cup, with Darren Sammy appointed as the new West Indies coach for ODIs and T20Is.

A team that once ruled cricket has now failed to qualify directly for the main stage of the World Cup. Their great performances are now a golden past for them. Maybe the West Indies Cricket Board has decided to take the West Indies back to its previous state. Darren Sameer's technique is expected to be successful for the West Indies team.

There is no dearth of world class cricketers in the West Indies team but what is lacking is a good relationship between the cricket board and the players. There is no doubt that West Indies will be the strongest team in ODI and T20 cricket if there is a good relationship between the West Indies Cricket Board and the players.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on May 12, 2023, 03:59:51 PM

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and also we will be able to have better revenues as well specially while now cricket is doing good in Southeast Asia where Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand are bringing their teams win native players T-20 format can do good changes.

The ICC is biased towards certain boards such as the Emirates Cricket Board, United States of America Cricket Association and Oman Cricket. As a result, these boards eat up most of the paltry share of revenue, that is allotted to the associate nations. Indonesia and Thailand are 100% made of natives and have performed exceptionally well in the recent times. But in terms of fund allocation, they always receive a very small share compared to UAE and the USA. The ICC even provided direct qualification to the USA for 2024 T20 Cricket World Cup (they are currently ranked at 22nd place, according to the latest T20I team rankings).

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