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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 22, 2023, 01:23:58 AM

The 2023 Continent Cup T20 Africa has been won by Uganda. Kenya was showing some signs of resurgence, but in the end Uganda proved to be too strong for them. It was a very close match though. Uganda batted first and made 125 in 20 overs with Kenyan bowler Gerard Mwendwa taking 3 wickets. In return Kenya could only manage 124/7 and lost by 1 run. 41-year old Collins Obuya (the hero during Kenya's match against Sri Lanka during the 2003 ODI World Cup) top-scored for them with 44 from 51 balls. Uganda just confirmed that now they are the strongest team in East Africa.

A good step for the cricket in African region because we have these four teams having good potential for the improvement in African continent we are already have three good teams South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia now these four will help them for increasing in popularity with it's good as mostly teams are having native players, and they can also increase their presence in all levels.

Even Uganda won and Kenya lost by 1 run but still good interesting cricket, and now they need to work on this format instead of going for others as well because this will increase their hassle and investment but just staying with just one format and having improvement in quality and performance surely give them good results good to see 41 years old Collins Obuya is still having something interesting for himself and doing good for his country.

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The 2023 Continent Cup T20 Africa has been won by Uganda. Kenya was showing some signs of resurgence, but in the end Uganda proved to be too strong for them. It was a very close match though. Uganda batted first and made 125 in 20 overs with Kenyan bowler Gerard Mwendwa taking 3 wickets. In return Kenya could only manage 124/7 and lost by 1 run. 41-year old Collins Obuya (the hero during Kenya's match against Sri Lanka during the 2003 ODI World Cup) top-scored for them with 44 from 51 balls. Uganda just confirmed that now they are the strongest team in East Africa.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on June 22, 2023, 12:31:43 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 21, 2023, 12:20:08 PM

Also, Recent news is the new PCB chairman is not happy with the hybrid model and he'll raise this issue in front of ACC as he believes it should be hosted in Pakistan,

The new PCB chairman admitted himself that nothing can be done since everything is set in stone already which implies that he was whining for literally nothing. There won't be any changes in the schedule unless something major happens.

Also, it seems that Pakistan's request to swap World Cup venues for their matches got turned down too.

Lol yeah, he changed his statement within 24 hours, no wonder no one takes PCB seriously, at least BCCI stopped entertaining PCB.

The venue change request was very dumb tbh. India vs Pakistan encounter is a marquee fixture for all stakeholders so it was obvious that BCCI would host this in the biggest cricket stadium, in terms of seat capacity.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 21, 2023, 12:20:08 PM

Also, Recent news is the new PCB chairman is not happy with the hybrid model and he'll raise this issue in front of ACC as he believes it should be hosted in Pakistan,

The new PCB chairman admitted himself that nothing can be done since everything is set in stone already which implies that he was whining for literally nothing. There won't be any changes in the schedule unless something major happens.

Also, it seems that Pakistan's request to swap World Cup venues for their matches got turned down too.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 21, 2023, 12:20:08 PM

For the argument let's even forget about the distribution because on principle I believe every full test nation deserves its share despite they are contributing anything or not.

In all Asia Cup drama, you'll notice that only PCB is making a noise every week or so, and BCCI stopped reacting to it completely.

Also, Recent news is the new PCB chairman is not happy with the hybrid model and he'll raise this issue in front of ACC as he believes it should be hosted in Pakistan,

Ideally the share of funds form the ICC should be proportional to the performance of the respective team in various ICC tournaments. Associate teams need to be allocated separately, since they almost never feature in ICC tournaments. And all the noise raised by PCB is just because Najam Sethi is under a lot of criticism from the opposite camp. Sethi want to give an impression that he is bargaining hard with the ACC and ICC. In the end, PCB will get nothing extra but at least Sethi's job will be safe. Anyway, I just want the Asia Cup to go ahead. If it get cancelled, the biggest losers will be Nepal.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 21, 2023, 02:00:38 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 20, 2023, 07:57:43 AM

I wonder how?

All they can do is make empty threats. I don't think they don't have any guts to boycott World Cup at any cost. PCB would go bankrupt if they do this, doesn't matter who is the chairman. Don't forget in this 2024-27 cycle they are set to earn a minimum $34.5 Million every year, that's $138 Million in just 4 years. Do you think PCB wants to lose this share?

Pakistan doesn't contribute much to the ICC revenues, yet they are given a much higher share when compared to the other boards such as SLCB and CNZ (around $27-28 million each per year). If population is the criteria, then Bangladesh is also having a similar population and they are only being allotted $26 million per year. I would say that the PCB received a good deal for revenue distribution for the 2024-27 cycle. If they want to pull out of the world cup and lose that money, then it is their decision. ICC can re-distribute that amount to the associate nations.

For the argument let's even forget about the distribution because on principle I believe every full test nation deserves its share despite they are contributing anything or not.

In all Asia Cup drama, you'll notice that only PCB is making a noise every week or so, and BCCI stopped reacting to it completely.

Also, Recent news is the new PCB chairman is not happy with the hybrid model and he'll raise this issue in front of ACC as he believes it should be hosted in Pakistan,

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 20, 2023, 04:48:33 AM

@WatChe definitely Rameez would have gotten a better deal as he was a hard negotiator and probably the reason why he was immediately removed because under him PCB wouldn’t have budged for sure. Furthermore the current deal is pretty raw and definitely doesn’t do any justice to Pakistan and the only payback they can get is by skipping the World Cup and making ICC look foolish.

Sethi gave away everything to BCCI without getting anything in return. The ODI worldcup won't be a big success without Pakistan and that's the reason why Pakistan and India are in same group. There is no way ICC can ignore Pakistan and if Chairman PCB have shown some resistance then BCCI has no option but to accept the demands. Good for BCCI that a clown like Sethi is heading PCB.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 20, 2023, 07:57:43 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on June 20, 2023, 04:48:33 AM

@WatChe definitely Rameez would have gotten a better deal as he was a hard negotiator and probably the reason why he was immediately removed because under him PCB wouldn’t have budged for sure. Furthermore the current deal is pretty raw and definitely doesn’t do any justice to Pakistan and the only payback they can get is by skipping the World Cup and making ICC look foolish.

I wonder how?

All they can do is make empty threats. I don't think they don't have any guts to boycott World Cup at any cost. PCB would go bankrupt if they do this, doesn't matter who is the chairman. Don't forget in this 2024-27 cycle they are set to earn a minimum $34.5 Million every year, that's $138 Million in just 4 years. Do you think PCB wants to lose this share?

I agreed with this PCB have no guts to announce boycott of World Cup because with this lost of $138 Million is never been wise decision but still a good decision which is accepted by all is already done and now today I was reading now they are asking ICC for change of venues for them in coming world cup matches even this all will be as same, but they want to change teams which is clearly indicating they are preparing for this all, and they have no negativity about this all.

Today after few hours we're going to have another match between these two countries as India is hosting SAFF Championship and India vs Pakistan is going to play their first match in Bangalore with this all I understand this deadlock is only for the cricket and no other game any issue.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on June 20, 2023, 03:10:44 AM

Zimbabwe vs Netherlands, 5th Match, Group A match is being held at Zimbabwe's home ground. Zimbabwe are bowling the opening and Netherlands are batting they are playing well at the moment. Both the Netherlands batsmen have been showing a good game from the start and they are giving a comfortable batting performance as no wicket has fallen so far. Zimbabwe's bowlers have been bowling brilliantly in the match due to which the Netherlands have not been able to score too many runs so far. But both the teams are playing well, so far Zimbabwe has not taken a single wicket from the Netherlands. Right now Netherlands total score is 95 runs in 16 overs with no wicket falling yet they are playing brilliantly.

The Netherlands batters shown outstanding talent early on in the thrilling encounter between Zimbabwe and the Netherlands which was played on Zimbabwe home pitch. Both players put on an impressive batting display establishing a solid partnership without losing a wicket. The Zimbabwean bowlers on the other hand used clever strategy to minimise the Netherlands opportunities to score runs maintaining their total at a manageable level. As the match went on the Netherlands amassed 95 runs in 16 overs without losing a single wicket. Despite their great performance they were unable to win.

But when the match came to a close the Netherlands concluded with a score of 315 runs while also losing six wickets. Zimbabwe prevailed despite the aim being set by the Netherlands appearing to be difficult. Zimbabwe won the match demonstrating their dominance and ability to complete the chase with 55 balls remaining and six wickets still in tact. Zimbabwe gave an outstanding effort and their merited victory underlined their strong sense of unity and adept game play.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 20, 2023, 07:57:43 AM

I wonder how?

All they can do is make empty threats. I don't think they don't have any guts to boycott World Cup at any cost. PCB would go bankrupt if they do this, doesn't matter who is the chairman. Don't forget in this 2024-27 cycle they are set to earn a minimum $34.5 Million every year, that's $138 Million in just 4 years. Do you think PCB wants to lose this share?

Pakistan doesn't contribute much to the ICC revenues, yet they are given a much higher share when compared to the other boards such as SLCB and CNZ (around $27-28 million each per year). If population is the criteria, then Bangladesh is also having a similar population and they are only being allotted $26 million per year. I would say that the PCB received a good deal for revenue distribution for the 2024-27 cycle. If they want to pull out of the world cup and lose that money, then it is their decision. ICC can re-distribute that amount to the associate nations.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 20, 2023, 09:02:10 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 20, 2023, 07:57:43 AM

I wonder how?

All they can do is make empty threats. I don't think they don't have any guts to boycott World Cup at any cost. PCB would go bankrupt if they do this, doesn't matter who is the chairman. Don't forget in this 2024-27 cycle they are set to earn a minimum $34.5 Million every year, that's $138 Million in just 4 years. Do you think PCB wants to lose this share?

^^^^ This.

$138 million may not be a big amount for the BCCI. But for the PCB it is a life-changing amount. And remember that the PCB allocation from the ICC has bean increased from $16 million per year to $34.5 million per year. In numbers (not in percentage), this is perhaps the largest increase for any board apart from the BCCI. Given this, it will be quite stupid for the PCB to do something that would see ICC freezing this allocation. I understand that Rameez is a good and tough negotiator. But in this case, Sethi got PCB a decent deal.

Be it Rambo or Sethi Sahab. All i hear are rhetorical statements from time to time.

From an outsider's view, the only difference between these gentlemen is the latter is subtle, although they are both equally aggressive and most of the time it's counterproductive.

I love this drama so i am still rooting for Pakistan to keep their word and Boycott World Cup. Grin

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 20, 2023, 07:57:43 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on June 20, 2023, 04:48:33 AM

@WatChe definitely Rameez would have gotten a better deal as he was a hard negotiator and probably the reason why he was immediately removed because under him PCB wouldn’t have budged for sure. Furthermore the current deal is pretty raw and definitely doesn’t do any justice to Pakistan and the only payback they can get is by skipping the World Cup and making ICC look foolish.

I wonder how?

All they can do is make empty threats. I don't think they don't have any guts to boycott World Cup at any cost. PCB would go bankrupt if they do this, doesn't matter who is the chairman. Don't forget in this 2024-27 cycle they are set to earn a minimum $34.5 Million every year, that's $138 Million in just 4 years. Do you think PCB wants to lose this share?

^^^^ This.

$138 million may not be a big amount for the BCCI. But for the PCB it is a life-changing amount. And remember that the PCB allocation from the ICC has bean increased from $16 million per year to $34.5 million per year. In numbers (not in percentage), this is perhaps the largest increase for any board apart from the BCCI. Given this, it will be quite stupid for the PCB to do something that would see ICC freezing this allocation. I understand that Rameez is a good and tough negotiator. But in this case, Sethi got PCB a decent deal.

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Quote from: darewaller on June 20, 2023, 08:15:59 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 19, 2023, 10:36:13 PM

The ICC is not going to care as long as they get these billions of USD in revenue from media rights auction. Pakistan is not a big market for them, and therefore they are not going to intervene in this issue. I would still say that the PCB got a good deal. All the other Asian boards (except Nepal) wanted Asia Cup to be completely shifted to another country, but in the end Pakistan got a handful of matches at home and a hybrid model. This will help the PCB to recover some revenue from the Asia Cup. And in this case, I don't think that Rameez would have got a better deal.

Even your all view is 100% correct about ICC and these both nation's relationship with India is surely big piece of cake for the ICC and in all cases against any poor board they will stand with India but this all hybrid system is going ahead just because of ICC and some understanding about upcoming world cup because if India not agreed with this all then surely this Asia Cup was going to be cancelled or having another postponement which was surely not good then surely Pakistan were also going to have right for boycott of World Cup which is going to play in India.

Here ICC try to manage things and try to convey Pakistan as well for the Participation into world cup even this all is too early and anything still can happen but now with this system right now we have something positive between these two countries.

Sithara007, there was no way for Pakistan to get a better deal in this situation. Doesn’t matter who it is during the negotiation. There is a popular saying that something is better than nothing. I honestly believe that’s exactly what Pakistan should be thinking about right now. Pakistan was about to get nothing in this situation. But now at least they are getting something.

darewaller, I don’t think Pakistan was actually going to opt out of the World Cup. Pakistan is not done. They know very well that opting out of the World Cup was going to cause them only problems. They just said that because they just want to host the Asia Cup. I would say that they have actually succeeded in trying to salvage something out of the situation.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 19, 2023, 10:36:13 PM

The ICC is not going to care as long as they get these billions of USD in revenue from media rights auction. Pakistan is not a big market for them, and therefore they are not going to intervene in this issue. I would still say that the PCB got a good deal. All the other Asian boards (except Nepal) wanted Asia Cup to be completely shifted to another country, but in the end Pakistan got a handful of matches at home and a hybrid model. This will help the PCB to recover some revenue from the Asia Cup. And in this case, I don't think that Rameez would have got a better deal.

Even your all view is 100% correct about ICC and these both nation's relationship with India is surely big piece of cake for the ICC and in all cases against any poor board they will stand with India but this all hybrid system is going ahead just because of ICC and some understanding about upcoming world cup because if India not agreed with this all then surely this Asia Cup was going to be cancelled or having another postponement which was surely not good then surely Pakistan were also going to have right for boycott of World Cup which is going to play in India.

Here ICC try to manage things and try to convey Pakistan as well for the Participation into world cup even this all is too early and anything still can happen but now with this system right now we have something positive between these two countries.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 20, 2023, 04:48:33 AM

@WatChe definitely Rameez would have gotten a better deal as he was a hard negotiator and probably the reason why he was immediately removed because under him PCB wouldn’t have budged for sure. Furthermore the current deal is pretty raw and definitely doesn’t do any justice to Pakistan and the only payback they can get is by skipping the World Cup and making ICC look foolish.

I wonder how?

All they can do is make empty threats. I don't think they don't have any guts to boycott World Cup at any cost. PCB would go bankrupt if they do this, doesn't matter who is the chairman. Don't forget in this 2024-27 cycle they are set to earn a minimum $34.5 Million every year, that's $138 Million in just 4 years. Do you think PCB wants to lose this share?

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Quote from: WatChe on June 20, 2023, 02:23:47 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 19, 2023, 10:36:13 PM

The ICC is not going to care as long as they get these billions of USD in revenue from media rights auction. Pakistan is not a big market for them, and therefore they are not going to intervene in this issue. I would still say that the PCB got a good deal. All the other Asian boards (except Nepal) wanted Asia Cup to be completely shifted to another country, but in the end Pakistan got a handful of matches at home and a hybrid model. This will help the PCB to recover some revenue from the Asia Cup. And in this case, I don't think that Rameez would have got a better deal.

Rameez Raja had a clear stance in his last days that if India not willing to play in Pakistan then we wont play in India. Honestly everyone in Pakistan was expecting such lose stance from Sethi and present government. If Imran Khan was the PM, we would have seen very different Pakistani response.
Sethi is not a good advocate of Pakistan rather he has his own interests and insane mindset. Now the latest news is Sethi has resigned as PCB Chairman and now there will be new PCB chairmen from Zaka Ashraf and Mustafa Ramday. Zaka Ashraf is favourite as he hails from PPP who is alliance in current government.

@WatChe definitely Rameez would have gotten a better deal as he was a hard negotiator and probably the reason why he was immediately removed because under him PCB wouldn’t have budged for sure. Furthermore the current deal is pretty raw and definitely doesn’t do any justice to Pakistan and the only payback they can get is by skipping the World Cup and making ICC look foolish.

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Zimbabwe vs Netherlands, 5th Match, Group A match is being held at Zimbabwe's home ground. Zimbabwe are bowling the opening and Netherlands are batting they are playing well at the moment. Both the Netherlands batsmen have been showing a good game from the start and they are giving a comfortable batting performance as no wicket has fallen so far. Zimbabwe's bowlers have been bowling brilliantly in the match due to which the Netherlands have not been able to score too many runs so far. But both the teams are playing well, so far Zimbabwe has not taken a single wicket from the Netherlands. Right now Netherlands total score is 95 runs in 16 overs with no wicket falling yet they are playing brilliantly.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 16, 2023, 07:40:40 AM

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There are a lot of teams playing in the qualifiers. It would have been great if at least four teams qualified for the World Cup from this. They could easily do that because it is not a hard job to select 4/5 teams from the 10 that are playing.

But of course, ICC is not interested in giving these teams any chance and they are only interested in making sure that West Indies and Sri Lanka qualify for the World Cup because that is going to generate them better money compared to if some associate country qualifies.

The official explanation is that the media rights holders (Disney-Star) doesn't want smaller (i.e Associate) teams in the world cup. So the number of participants was reduced from 16 in the 2007 ODI World Cup to 10 as of now. But then the question remains. If only 10 nations are participating in this tournament (out of that 5 from the South Asian region), how can you call it as "World" cup? There should have been a middle way, which would make sure that some of the associate nations get to participate and also the media rights holders are happy. But as of now, not even all the full members (12) are included in the world cup.

Honestly, this feels like ICC's just pandering to the media rights holders rather than actually considering what's best for the sport. Yeah, sure, Disney-Star doesn't want small teams, so let's just kick 'em out of the park, right? But hey, why stop there? Why not just play India vs Pakistan or Australia vs England for a month and call it a World Cup?

This just seems like ICC's still stuck in the 2007 World Cup hangover. Hey, can someone get them a cold shower already?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 19, 2023, 10:36:13 PM

The ICC is not going to care as long as they get these billions of USD in revenue from media rights auction. Pakistan is not a big market for them, and therefore they are not going to intervene in this issue. I would still say that the PCB got a good deal. All the other Asian boards (except Nepal) wanted Asia Cup to be completely shifted to another country, but in the end Pakistan got a handful of matches at home and a hybrid model. This will help the PCB to recover some revenue from the Asia Cup. And in this case, I don't think that Rameez would have got a better deal.

Rameez Raja had a clear stance in his last days that if India not willing to play in Pakistan then we wont play in India. Honestly everyone in Pakistan was expecting such lose stance from Sethi and present government. If Imran Khan was the PM, we would have seen very different Pakistani response.
Sethi is not a good advocate of Pakistan rather he has his own interests and insane mindset. Now the latest news is Sethi has resigned as PCB Chairman and now there will be new PCB chairmen from Zaka Ashraf and Mustafa Ramday. Zaka Ashraf is favourite as he hails from PPP who is alliance in current government.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 17, 2023, 12:41:33 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 16, 2023, 04:45:38 PM

If given a chance then these folks would like to organize only marquee fixtures similar to India vs Pakistan or India vs Australia vs England for all 25 days and call it WC.

India not willing to play with Pakistan in Pakistan must be hurting for the ICC (if ICC were the independent body and not take directions from BCCI)
Just heard the confirmation of the news that Four Asia Cup matches in Pakistan; remaining nine in Sri Lanka Sad

I was hoping that Pakistan will show some resistance but since the former Pakistan captain Imran Khan's government was taken over by the establishment, it was expected that the new chairman of the PCB, the Puppet Najam Sethi would agree to whatever the Indian will say.

Had it been Ramiz Raja, the chairperson for PCB, and Imran Khan the prime minister of Pakistan, things would have been entirely different.

The ICC is not going to care as long as they get these billions of USD in revenue from media rights auction. Pakistan is not a big market for them, and therefore they are not going to intervene in this issue. I would still say that the PCB got a good deal. All the other Asian boards (except Nepal) wanted Asia Cup to be completely shifted to another country, but in the end Pakistan got a handful of matches at home and a hybrid model. This will help the PCB to recover some revenue from the Asia Cup. And in this case, I don't think that Rameez would have got a better deal.

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