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Since 2005, the relationship between the players and the West Indies Cricket Board began to decrease. There, inconsistent behavior between the cricket board and the cricketers has gradually lowered the reputation of their cricket. Even now this problem is not solved. There are also allegations against the board that ICC funds are not properly distributed among the players. I think West Indies cricket will not improve until the board can develop a good relationship with their players.

West Indies is a group of countries and hence there might be some limitations on some of the aspects, they were the best team when Sir Garfield Sobers and Clive Lloyd used to scout the Caribbean Islands for talents and many of the legendary players were included in the team during that period especially the fearsome fast bowlers. You need a captain like that to scout for talents for you need an administrative team that are capable of doing that.

Now the main focus is on T20 and even though there are domestic competition players are inclined to play the shorter format because of global tournaments which offers huge monetary benefits. .  

There is no doubt about the level of Sri Lanka and West Indies but as things going down for these two teams and many Associates are bringing good performance this could be interested in next few years because now white-ball cricket is just have one or two good players on game day, and it's all gone I also sure most chances we will have Sri Lanka and West Indies in ODI World Cup but still Zimbabwe is also in with any good performance on match-day against these two big can bring them in good position.

Here I am feeling West Indies needs to improve their domestic setup and also needs to end problems with their players which are creating problems for them in last few years because if it's not going to end then surely things can go from bad to worse for them in coming years.

I really want to say that Sri Lanka and the West Indies are certainly going to qualify. But I also do not feel very confident saying that, to be honest. they are certainly better than the others. That’s what I can say for now.


I understand that Sri Lanka and the West Indies are a few levels above the others. But the inconsistency is a little too much to depend on them. Who knows maybe they will lose a crucial match! Who knows, maybe we will be surprised!

Sri Lanka and West Indies are a few levels above the rest, due to massive gap in funding and support from the pig-4. Zimbabwe is a volatile team. If their players are available, then they can spring a few surprises. If Sean Williams, Sikandar Raza and Brad Evans manage to play well, then it is not going to be a big task for them to defeat the associate nations. But in order to qualify they need to finish at top-2. And for that they need to defeat either Sri Lanka or West Indies. I am not saying that it is impossible, but given the current circumstances, it is going to be very difficult.

@fuguebtc I’m not entirely confident about Srilanka and West Indies qualifying because both these team’s have disappointed a lot in recent year’s with their overall performances hence I won’t be surprised if they get knocked out. Furthermore I’m not expecting anything from the Zimbabwean player’s too but from Nepal I’m expecting a lot as they have been doing pretty well for themselves.

Netherlands is a strong team, but this time none of their top players are available. At least 7-8 of their regular players (including Roelof van der Merwe, Fred Klaassen, Brandon Glover, Paul van Meekeren, Colin Ackermann, Timm van der Gugten and Shane Snater). As a result, they have sent a very young and inexperienced team. They are placed in a very tough group, along with two test nations (Zimbabwe and West Indies) and one team that is in peak form (Nepal). Only United States can be classified as a weak team in Group A. And their first match will be against a strong Zimbabwe.

Sithara007, Well, I couldn't agree more. This is certainly going to be from these four countries. And if we are being a little more precise I think we have to say that Sri Lanka and West Indies are going to be the ones. I am a little doubtful about them though. The performance that they have shown are not very convincing, to be honest.

Vaskiy, Of course, we cannot be sure about anything. It is actually hard to say since Sri Lanka and West Indies have not been very consistent. So obviously it is not 100% sure if they are actually going to be the teams to go ahead. But the expectation is obviously there from them.

Recently we've seen more matches go against the favourites. So, we can't be sure of the performance from the four. I expect Nepal, Netherlands to give good competence. Even the situation could arise same as that we saw in the IPL qualifier. Almost every team were with same point and the thrill of entering the qualifier continued till the last match.

Well.. I agree. Performance depends a lot on the fund allocation from the ICC. Zimbabwe receives around $12 million per year from the ICC. Sri Lanka and West Indies receive $16.5 million per year. For teams such as Nepal (who receive $200,000 per year), it will be an uphill battle to compete against such teams. There are 4 test nations participating in this tournament - Sri Lanka, West Indies, Ireland and Zimbabwe. There is a 99.99% chance that the two teams that qualify for the 2023 ODI World Cup will come from this sub-set.

It is actually really hard to say that any other team is going to qualify instead of West Indies and Sri Lanka. I mean right now the situation in Sri Lanka and the West Indies is not very good. But the others which they are competing against are far worse, to be honest.

So I don’t see any other team actually beating either of these two, Sri Lanka or West Indies in this race. And a good performance from Zimbabwe is expected. After all, they are getting a good amount of money from the ICC every year. They really should be showing some improvement. Otherwise, there are other teams that can use that money.

18th June is starting date for this event with right now few warm-up matches going on which is good before this event I am agreed with this as Sri Lanka and West Indies are favorite contenders for this event but as host and having good practice against Pakistan A Zimbabwe can also do upset because today they score 367 runs against Oman and also concede 339 but still this is good match for them with good batting from their middle order after failure of top order and things looking impressive for them.

With mostly other teams which have adopted players can do some resistance but not good things are coming from them with just three teams are main for the qualification, Sri Lanka, West Indies and Zimbabwe because these are doing enough for their better future and have some good hopes in white-ball formats as well.

2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier will start in a few days from now. Sri Lanka and West Indies are the favorites to qualify, and other teams are fra behind them at lest on paper. Anyone believe that either of these two would fail to qualify? Among the other teams, Ireland and Netherlands are in bad shape and they have lost all of their recent matches. On top of that, Netherlands will be playing in this tournament without most of their top players. Zimbabwe will be having the home advantage, but they are also in poor form. Don't know much about the recent performance from Scotland, but Nepal may be able to win one or two matches. And I have zero hope for the other three teams - Oman, UAE and USA.

great names should be careful while making public post - social media has made a very strong impact on the lives of people.
These sportsman should think million time before making a controversal post

I also agree with you on this. Shubman Gill did not find anything reliable. For this reason he can express his emotions on social media and it is a personal opinion. I think ICC could have been more careful here because of Shubman Gill's post. They could see if there was any mistake or not. But not having that opportunity seems questionable to me. I don't know why Shubman Gill made such a post after knowing about it. But he may have done so out of anger. Even with having technology, such complaints cannot be accepted. I think a longer period of observation should be used rather than not giving a controversial decision.

I understand about the fine that was given by the ICC because of the slow overrate. It is the rule and if someone breaks the rule they should be punished. I absolutely agree.

But I do not understand why someone should be punished because they just do not agree on something with the ICC. The player can post about anything he wants as long as it does not cause any problems to any place, religion, or ethnicity. He thought it was controversial and probably should’ve gone the other way and that’s why he posted about that. I don’t see anything wrong with that. And one player saying that it should have gone the other way does not prove the ICC wrong. Giving him a fine is something that indicates ICC being wrong.

ICC fined India 100%, Australia 80%, Shubman Gill 15%.

ICC fined India and Australia separately for the World Test Championship final, ICC fined India 100% and Australia 80%. India penalized 100% for going 5 overs short of the allotted time and Australia 80% for going 4 overs short. The ICC rules state that failure to complete an over within the stipulated time will result in a fine of 20% per over.

Additionally, Indian cricketer Shubman Gill was fined 15 per cent of his match fee and given a demerit point for his controversial post on social media following a controversial dismissal. According to ICC rules, no player can make any controversial post about the game on social media. However, he posted a social media post with an emoji caption of Cameron Greene's controversial catch and the ICC punished him based on that post.

If the ICC act the way they should, then there would be no requirement for any help from anyone else to popularize cricket in countries such as the Netherlands. I agree that Netherlands is a rich country. But cricket is not eligible for fund allocation from the Dutch government. There are two reasons - first of all, cricket is not an Olympic sport. And secondly "national" cricket teams in many instances are comprised entirely of foreigners. None of the governments would allocate funds to a sport that is exclusively played by foreigners.

Cricket in Netherlands is increasingly becoming a sport dominated by expats. Back in 1990s, club players were 70-80% native. Now almost 80% of the club players are non-citizens. The Royal Dutch Cricket Association (KNCB) has a policy of including only citizens in their national team. That is the reason why players like Roelof van der Merwe and Timm van der Gugten were first asked to get a Dutch passport before representing the national team. Some other teams like Namibia also follow the same approach. But that doesn't take away the fact that grass-roots cricket in Netherlands is being entirely dominated by expats now.

If cricket was an Olympic sport, then boards such as KNCB would be receiving significant amounts of funds from the national government. But the ICC has no interest in doing so. All they are doing is a hogwash. The ICC sent a proposal to IOC, for a 6-team event. They also demanded that there should be no qualifier tournament, and teams should be selected as per the ICC rankings. And this happened then:

https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/news-ioc-reject-icc-s-bid-included-2028-los-angeles-olympics-fresh-pitch-set-made-cricket-s-inclusion-2032-edition

IPL is not only popular in India but I think IPL is a popular name for all the cricket lovers all over the world. The IPL game has been popular since its inception.  But day by day its popularity has increased many times. When our players from Bangladesh go to play, we eagerly sit to watch that team play. And I enjoy the IPL games. The best players from all over the world are selected for IPL. It seems to me that if India was not in conflict with Pakistan then we could have enjoyed the good players of Pakistan in big events like IPL. Maybe because of the conflict between these two countries, cricket lovers cannot enjoy playing the good quality players of Pakistan.

True and for some weird reason people don't take this into account when it comes to bashing BCCI. They indeed deserve the criticism but give credit where it's due. 

Having said that spectator experience in the stadium is still horrible and needs a drastic change in mindset of BCCI's think tank.


It's a good point but at the same time why should BCCI do all the sacrifices or have a responsibility to promote cricket in rich countries like the Netherlands and ignore the poor parts of India? India is still a poor country don't you agree? If it's about supporting developing cricketing setup then BCCI definitely should do more, I agree on that.

But if the main goal is to suck out all possible revenue from India and hand them out to everyone, including rich countries and freeloaders by organizing an ICC tournament every year (Every single board supported this, except BCCI) and not addressing BCCI's concerns then somehow it looks like a new type of colonization because after all BCCI is generating 90% of revenue and not getting its fair share.