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There is a statement from Marizanne Kapp regarding the performance of some of the associate players in the recently concluded FairBreak Invitational tournament (second edition):

https://scroll.in/field/1047139/cricket-marizanne-kapp-on-how-associate-players-are-standing-out-at-fairbreak-invitational

This year's edition witnessed 6 teams taking part in the tournament, with a majority of the players hailing from associate nations. The BCCI as usual, banned it's players from taking part. The matches were held in Hong Kong, and in the final match Warriors defeated Falcons by 94 runs. Hayley Matthews was the player of the match, for scoring 123.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on April 19, 2023, 05:30:02 PM

Even now the oil source is their major revenue, and the country plan to generate revenue through different sources. This is how it is possible to stand strong, even if the oil revenue gets disturbed as we can't expect things to be same as now. As said Saudi Arabia have spent big on Football and now the prime focus is upon Cricket as it holds a big fanbase from the Asian countries.

More restrictions were relaxed and the government is trying to make Western people get into the country. This is kind of plan to make people invest into their country. Rather than money it is the visibility they get through it. Even now for IPL they're (visit Saudi) is the official sponsor.

It can be said that Saudi Arabia is starting to make proper use of its natural resources. So far they have not taken any big initiative. Despite being financially prosperous, they did not see any such action. But now they have learned to realize that not only depend on natural resources. They are now competing with the big countries of the world. As a result of their revolutionary steps, we are witnessing major changes in the working environment today. Since money plays a very important role for the success of every work, Saudi Arabia may be successful.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on April 19, 2023, 09:31:17 PM

MS Dhoni may be dropped from the captaincy of Chennai Super Kings in IPL.

I am explaining this to you. Mainly because of slow over rating, such a decision can come. In every match, CSK bowl two to three overs more than the allotted overs. Because each telling ball actually makes several no-balls, including multiple white balls. And especially when a fast bowler comes to bowl with a concept of 10 plus runs per over and bowls two or one wide ball in the over, then that over takes more time than the scheduled time, as a result of which the overall match is seen as two to three overs more.
Dhoni himself has expressed regret about this.

Umpires usually give on-field penalties due to slow over rating, which is that if a team suffers a slow over rating after the power play, the umpire is forced to field four men instead of five outside the circle.

However, if this type of incident continues to happen regularly, then the captain of that team will be fully punished. He will be released from the captaincy.

There is no end to the diversity of laws in cricket, this time there is a combination of multiple legal diversity in IPL. Slow over rating means if the over is not completed within the specified time, the entire team including the captain is penalized and the captain has to pay a fine of 30 percent of the match fee. Now that method is not after the match but during the match the penalty should be calculated. If the over is not completed within the specified time, the fielder must be fielded within 30 yards with one player less. This is the penalty for slow over rating during the match. It is still unknown to me whether the captaincy will be subject to a ban for the next match if multiple mistakes are made in a row.

@Patrol69 it’ll be a clever move because the new captain will only be there for formality, because we all know that MSD will be taking all the decisions on the field. Furthermore I’m baffled as to why are CSK bowler’s doing this, and it reminds me of the previous match fixing scandals which rocked the IPL hopefully I’m wrong and the bowler’s aren’t doing this on purpose.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on April 19, 2023, 05:30:02 PM

Even now the oil source is their major revenue, and the country plan to generate revenue through different sources. This is how it is possible to stand strong, even if the oil revenue gets disturbed as we can't expect things to be same as now. As said Saudi Arabia have spent big on Football and now the prime focus is upon Cricket as it holds a big fanbase from the Asian countries.

More restrictions were relaxed and the government is trying to make Western people get into the country. This is kind of plan to make people invest into their country. Rather than money it is the visibility they get through it. Even now for IPL they're (visit Saudi) is the official sponsor.

The current king (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) is quite intelligent and he has realized that it will be impossible for Saudi Arabia to survive on oil revenues alone in the long term. That is why he is trying to diversify the economy. And unlike Qatar, Saudi Arabia is not exactly swimming in wads of money. They do have a large population of natives to take care of. Qatar has only 300,000 citizens, while KSA as per the latest census is home to 25 million natives. That explains why Saudi Arabia is more accommodative of the outside culture when compared to Qatar. But only time will tell whether their big plans will get realized or not.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on April 19, 2023, 09:31:17 PM

MS Dhoni may be dropped from the captaincy of Chennai Super Kings in IPL.

I am explaining this to you. Mainly because of slow over rating, such a decision can come. In every match, CSK bowl two to three overs more than the allotted overs. Because each telling ball actually makes several no-balls, including multiple white balls. And especially when a fast bowler comes to bowl with a concept of 10 plus runs per over and bowls two or one wide ball in the over, then that over takes more time than the scheduled time, as a result of which the overall match is seen as two to three overs more.
Dhoni himself has expressed regret about this.

Umpires usually give on-field penalties due to slow over rating, which is that if a team suffers a slow over rating after the power play, the umpire is forced to field four men instead of five outside the circle.

However, if this type of incident continues to happen regularly, then the captain of that team will be fully punished. He will be released from the captaincy.

There is no end to the diversity of laws in cricket, this time there is a combination of multiple legal diversity in IPL. Slow over rating means if the over is not completed within the specified time, the entire team including the captain is penalized and the captain has to pay a fine of 30 percent of the match fee. Now that method is not after the match but during the match the penalty should be calculated. If the over is not completed within the specified time, the fielder must be fielded within 30 yards with one player less. This is the penalty for slow over rating during the match. It is still unknown to me whether the captaincy will be subject to a ban for the next match if multiple mistakes are made in a row.

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MS Dhoni may be dropped from the captaincy of Chennai Super Kings in IPL.

I am explaining this to you. Mainly because of slow over rating, such a decision can come. In every match, CSK bowl two to three overs more than the allotted overs. Because each telling ball actually makes several no-balls, including multiple white balls. And especially when a fast bowler comes to bowl with a concept of 10 plus runs per over and bowls two or one wide ball in the over, then that over takes more time than the scheduled time, as a result of which the overall match is seen as two to three overs more.
Dhoni himself has expressed regret about this.

Umpires usually give on-field penalties due to slow over rating, which is that if a team suffers a slow over rating after the power play, the umpire is forced to field four men instead of five outside the circle.

However, if this type of incident continues to happen regularly, then the captain of that team will be fully punished. He will be released from the captaincy.

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I don't think that they are in for the profits. They want to make Saudi Arabia a global sports destination (similar to what they have done in boxing, football and golf). Under the new king (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) they have relaxed a lot of their strict religious laws, and have made the country more appealing for the foreigners. But I don't know how this tournament can become successful without the Indian players. India generates >90% of the income in cricket, and without the Indian players this league will end up in losses. Also, the viewership will be lower without Indian interest.

I think Saudi Arabia doesn't pay much attention to earning money. They are very enthusiastic about spending money. If they want to substitute cricket league for profit then they will fail. But I think they are planning something to introduce their country to the world.
They must be going through a long planning process. They are widely known in football. Also they want to do something that can take their country to another level globally. They are the ones who consistently keep an eye on cricket. To be honest I think big cricketers can join there if the money is spent. However, no cricket league is complete without Indian cricketers and that's why IPL is the best.

They have certainly made their country a destination for foreigners. A lot of people think that they are still earning money by selling oil. One thing I can say for sure is that they don’t have the type of oil right now that they had once. They have certainly made a fortune by selling oil. But now they have made the country, so representative throughout the whole world that everyone wants to be a citizen of their country.

Now they are trying to make almost every sport popular by keeping their country in the conversation. I don’t think they are trying to improve their own team so much. And that is why I think they are in this for the money. But it is absolutely certain that without Indian players, they are not going to generate good enough revenue.

Even now the oil source is their major revenue, and the country plan to generate revenue through different sources. This is how it is possible to stand strong, even if the oil revenue gets disturbed as we can't expect things to be same as now. As said Saudi Arabia have spent big on Football and now the prime focus is upon Cricket as it holds a big fanbase from the Asian countries.

More restrictions were relaxed and the government is trying to make Western people get into the country. This is kind of plan to make people invest into their country. Rather than money it is the visibility they get through it. Even now for IPL they're (visit Saudi) is the official sponsor.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 17, 2023, 10:52:43 PM

I don't think that they are in for the profits. They want to make Saudi Arabia a global sports destination (similar to what they have done in boxing, football and golf). Under the new king (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) they have relaxed a lot of their strict religious laws, and have made the country more appealing for the foreigners. But I don't know how this tournament can become successful without the Indian players. India generates >90% of the income in cricket, and without the Indian players this league will end up in losses. Also, the viewership will be lower without Indian interest.

I think Saudi Arabia doesn't pay much attention to earning money. They are very enthusiastic about spending money. If they want to substitute cricket league for profit then they will fail. But I think they are planning something to introduce their country to the world.
They must be going through a long planning process. They are widely known in football. Also they want to do something that can take their country to another level globally. They are the ones who consistently keep an eye on cricket. To be honest I think big cricketers can join there if the money is spent. However, no cricket league is complete without Indian cricketers and that's why IPL is the best.

They have certainly made their country a destination for foreigners. A lot of people think that they are still earning money by selling oil. One thing I can say for sure is that they don’t have the type of oil right now that they had once. They have certainly made a fortune by selling oil. But now they have made the country, so representative throughout the whole world that everyone wants to be a citizen of their country.

Now they are trying to make almost every sport popular by keeping their country in the conversation. I don’t think they are trying to improve their own team so much. And that is why I think they are in this for the money. But it is absolutely certain that without Indian players, they are not going to generate good enough revenue.

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First matches of the ACC Men's Premier Cup 2023 were played today and Nepal and Hong Kong emerged as victorious. A total of 10 teams are taking part in this competition, and out of them only 2 teams have native players in their squads (Nepal and Malaysia). The winner of this championship will qualify for the Asia Cup ODI tournament, which will be held sometime later this year. I really hope that Nepal would win this tournament, as they have some promising young players like Sandeep Lamichhane, Rohit Paudel and Kushal Bhurtel.

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Quote from: BobK71 on April 18, 2023, 01:33:55 AM

I think Saudi Arabia doesn't pay much attention to earning money. They are very enthusiastic about spending money. If they want to substitute cricket league for profit then they will fail. But I think they are planning something to introduce their country to the world.
They must be going through a long planning process. They are widely known in football. Also they want to do something that can take their country to another level globally. They are the ones who consistently keep an eye on cricket. To be honest I think big cricketers can join there if the money is spent. However, no cricket league is complete without Indian cricketers and that's why IPL is the best.

Right now, money or profit is no problem for the Gulf region countries because they are investing huge funds for the change of mindset about them after having good experience in soccer clubs around UEFA now they are investing for their own leagues and as Qatar organize soccer world cup things are completely change competition is on for few countries to organize events like this which is surely not easy just because of this now Saudi Arab are having intention to bring cricket in their limelight even this is not easy task but most chances we will have one of the best league from their side which will also give huge profit and salaries to players.

India is the biggest stakeholder with the biggest market, but we can expect good revenue and profit for them as well because they also have good fan base around subcontinent and as they change things in soccer we can expect good changes from them in cricket as well.

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You are right IPL Cricket is the reason and best of Indian cricket's incredible growth in indian cricket notice how the standard of indian cricket has improved in the last 10 years. India currently dominates world cricket a few days ago, he went to australia and won the test series. The fun and USP of the IPL for the audience is the sheer excitement the flood of four sixes, the bragging rights that the urban craze calls and watching the stars of different teams play together.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 17, 2023, 10:52:43 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on April 17, 2023, 01:10:58 PM

One thing we know for sure is that Saudi Arabia is in this for money. They are approaching this from a business mindset. And I believe that’s why they will have success because they will only be interested in making the show better for people so that the revenue is the greatest.

For the investors, I believe the show is going to be great no matter what. And of course, they are going to pay the players a lot of money. So there is no reason for any player to not be in the T20 tournament.

I don't think that they are in for the profits. They want to make Saudi Arabia a global sports destination (similar to what they have done in boxing, football and golf). Under the new king (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) they have relaxed a lot of their strict religious laws, and have made the country more appealing for the foreigners. But I don't know how this tournament can become successful without the Indian players. India generates >90% of the income in cricket, and without the Indian players this league will end up in losses. Also, the viewership will be lower without Indian interest.

I think Saudi Arabia doesn't pay much attention to earning money. They are very enthusiastic about spending money. If they want to substitute cricket league for profit then they will fail. But I think they are planning something to introduce their country to the world.
They must be going through a long planning process. They are widely known in football. Also they want to do something that can take their country to another level globally. They are the ones who consistently keep an eye on cricket. To be honest I think big cricketers can join there if the money is spent. However, no cricket league is complete without Indian cricketers and that's why IPL is the best.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on April 17, 2023, 01:10:58 PM

One thing we know for sure is that Saudi Arabia is in this for money. They are approaching this from a business mindset. And I believe that’s why they will have success because they will only be interested in making the show better for people so that the revenue is the greatest.

For the investors, I believe the show is going to be great no matter what. And of course, they are going to pay the players a lot of money. So there is no reason for any player to not be in the T20 tournament.

I don't think that they are in for the profits. They want to make Saudi Arabia a global sports destination (similar to what they have done in boxing, football and golf). Under the new king (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) they have relaxed a lot of their strict religious laws, and have made the country more appealing for the foreigners. But I don't know how this tournament can become successful without the Indian players. India generates >90% of the income in cricket, and without the Indian players this league will end up in losses. Also, the viewership will be lower without Indian interest.

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After achieving success in football, Saudi Arabia also wants to work with cricket. That is, Saudi Arabia wants to organize domestic T20 cricket on a much larger scale in their country. Australia's top news media "The Sydney Morning Herald" published such news. According to them, the domestic T20 league of their country will be organized in a much more grand manner than the IPL. Where all the famous cricketers of the world can be seen performing.
"The Sydney Morning Herald" revealed that the special committee of Saudi Arabia has already discussed this with the BCCI.
Not only limited to this, the current chairman Greg Barclay of the ICC said,
"You should look at other sports related to Saudi Arabia. They are coming forward in every game. I think the cricket event will be more interesting in their country. Such a league would be good for Saudi Arabia given the way they are approaching the sport. Interested in investing in the sport and the potential of cricket in their country regionally".
If Saudi Arabia has taken the initiative in this regard then surely they will implement this concern. And the cricket world will enjoy another IPL-like T20 tournament.

There is no doubt now we have a young crown prince who is already involved in many controversies and trying to change image of this kingdom and himself but it's never been easy because right now if any country wants to have the biggest franchise league in cricket it's not possible without India, and they are already announces their players never been involved in this league so most chances this could be not going to happen even if we have something this could be not near the IPL, but they can achieve some better figures due to their huge influence in few countries like they have in soccer and also their huge investments can do something.
But I guess this could be not near the IPL anyhow and ICC also can't do anything mean they will never be direct party in this case with they have no enough power to force other boards for this franchise league in near future.

One thing we know for sure is that Saudi Arabia is in this for money. They are approaching this from a business mindset. And I believe that’s why they will have success because they will only be interested in making the show better for people so that the revenue is the greatest.

For the investors, I believe the show is going to be great no matter what. And of course, they are going to pay the players a lot of money. So there is no reason for any player to not be in the T20 tournament.

Thats true the Arabs and sheikhs know how to enter in any industry and field and how to make money out of it.
This cricket venture is total business as they were never in cricket and this is not something you can develop in one or two year it takes years and years to make a good team and start such league.
But this is going to be an interesting one for the world.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on April 17, 2023, 01:31:51 AM

After achieving success in football, Saudi Arabia also wants to work with cricket. That is, Saudi Arabia wants to organize domestic T20 cricket on a much larger scale in their country. Australia's top news media "The Sydney Morning Herald" published such news. According to them, the domestic T20 league of their country will be organized in a much more grand manner than the IPL. Where all the famous cricketers of the world can be seen performing.
"The Sydney Morning Herald" revealed that the special committee of Saudi Arabia has already discussed this with the BCCI.
Not only limited to this, the current chairman Greg Barclay of the ICC said,
"You should look at other sports related to Saudi Arabia. They are coming forward in every game. I think the cricket event will be more interesting in their country. Such a league would be good for Saudi Arabia given the way they are approaching the sport. Interested in investing in the sport and the potential of cricket in their country regionally".
If Saudi Arabia has taken the initiative in this regard then surely they will implement this concern. And the cricket world will enjoy another IPL-like T20 tournament.

There is no doubt now we have a young crown prince who is already involved in many controversies and trying to change image of this kingdom and himself but it's never been easy because right now if any country wants to have the biggest franchise league in cricket it's not possible without India, and they are already announces their players never been involved in this league so most chances this could be not going to happen even if we have something this could be not near the IPL, but they can achieve some better figures due to their huge influence in few countries like they have in soccer and also their huge investments can do something.
But I guess this could be not near the IPL anyhow and ICC also can't do anything mean they will never be direct party in this case with they have no enough power to force other boards for this franchise league in near future.

One thing we know for sure is that Saudi Arabia is in this for money. They are approaching this from a business mindset. And I believe that’s why they will have success because they will only be interested in making the show better for people so that the revenue is the greatest.

For the investors, I believe the show is going to be great no matter what. And of course, they are going to pay the players a lot of money. So there is no reason for any player to not be in the T20 tournament.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on April 17, 2023, 01:31:51 AM

After achieving success in football, Saudi Arabia also wants to work with cricket. That is, Saudi Arabia wants to organize domestic T20 cricket on a much larger scale in their country. Australia's top news media "The Sydney Morning Herald" published such news. According to them, the domestic T20 league of their country will be organized in a much more grand manner than the IPL. Where all the famous cricketers of the world can be seen performing.
"The Sydney Morning Herald" revealed that the special committee of Saudi Arabia has already discussed this with the BCCI.

Not only limited to this, the current chairman Greg Barclay of the ICC said,
"You should look at other sports related to Saudi Arabia. They are coming forward in every game. I think the cricket event will be more interesting in their country. Such a league would be good for Saudi Arabia given the way they are approaching the sport. Interested in investing in the sport and the potential of cricket in their country regionally".

If Saudi Arabia has taken the initiative in this regard then surely they will implement this concern. And the cricket world will enjoy another IPL-like T20 tournament.

There is no doubt now we have a young crown prince who is already involved in many controversies and trying to change image of this kingdom and himself but it's never been easy because right now if any country wants to have the biggest franchise league in cricket it's not possible without India, and they are already announces their players never been involved in this league so most chances this could be not going to happen even if we have something this could be not near the IPL, but they can achieve some better figures due to their huge influence in few countries like they have in soccer and also their huge investments can do something.

But I guess this could be not near the IPL anyhow and ICC also can't do anything mean they will never be direct party in this case with they have no enough power to force other boards for this franchise league in near future.

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We can bring improvement in this game and bring more peoples in fanbase as well but here we need professional approach not business deals if we have former cricketers and better peoples to handle all things in ICC things can change drastically and results can also improve but this mindset which is allowing just big 3 or 4 to rule this all is creating big mess-up Sri Lanka, West Indies former World Champions in ODI and T20i are struggling badly and test format is also having big setbacks which are not going to recover in near future with this current approach and mind-set of current management.

West Indies became World Champions under Clive Lloyd and they were not getting any major support from the ICC nor their respective board and so is the case with Sri Lanka, under Arjuna Ranatunga they became World champions and majority of the players expenses were taken by the captain and still they became World champions and so is the case with India winning the ODI World cup in 1983 who never had a coach.

So to uplift the game, you either need to have a dedicated captain or a board to find the talents and the ICC will not elevate the game and groom the players.

It is absolutely true what you said. For you to make an impact, you will have to take certain steps on your own if you want to make a difference. A lot of people think that the ICC will not do anything if it does not benefit them in any way.

Additionally, we can also see that there was a time when India was suffering from a lot of hardships. There was a lot of discrimination going on in the world of cricket at the time. In spite of this, India became more popular and better over time. Now India is the biggest game in cricket. So if you want to be great, you will have to do it and you cannot wait for a handout from ICC.

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T20 League in Saudi Arabia

After achieving success in football, Saudi Arabia also wants to work with cricket. That is, Saudi Arabia wants to organize domestic T20 cricket on a much larger scale in their country. Australia's top news media "The Sydney Morning Herald" published such news. According to them, the domestic T20 league of their country will be organized in a much more grand manner than the IPL. Where all the famous cricketers of the world can be seen performing.
"The Sydney Morning Herald" revealed that the special committee of Saudi Arabia has already discussed this with the BCCI.

Not only limited to this, the current chairman Greg Barclay of the ICC said,
"You should look at other sports related to Saudi Arabia. They are coming forward in every game. I think the cricket event will be more interesting in their country. Such a league would be good for Saudi Arabia given the way they are approaching the sport. Interested in investing in the sport and the potential of cricket in their country regionally".

If Saudi Arabia has taken the initiative in this regard then surely they will implement this concern. And the cricket world will enjoy another IPL-like T20 tournament.

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We can bring improvement in this game and bring more peoples in fanbase as well but here we need professional approach not business deals if we have former cricketers and better peoples to handle all things in ICC things can change drastically and results can also improve but this mindset which is allowing just big 3 or 4 to rule this all is creating big mess-up Sri Lanka, West Indies former World Champions in ODI and T20i are struggling badly and test format is also having big setbacks which are not going to recover in near future with this current approach and mind-set of current management.

West Indies became World Champions under Clive Lloyd and they were not getting any major support from the ICC nor their respective board and so is the case with Sri Lanka, under Arjuna Ranatunga they became World champions and majority of the players expenses were taken by the captain and still they became World champions and so is the case with India winning the ODI World cup in 1983 who never had a coach.

So to uplift the game, you either need to have a dedicated captain or a board to find the talents and the ICC will not elevate the game and groom the players.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on April 16, 2023, 06:35:58 AM

ICC funding may seems unfair but this is a fact cricket is ruled by few countries big 3 and 3 more rest of the countries are not showing any improvement and they are still at status if associate nations. England, Australia, India, Pakistan, Newzealand, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Sirlanka that's the name we are listening in crickets world form long time .
There should be more teams and competition in cricket and for that all cri let boards should work.

We can bring improvement in this game and bring more peoples in fanbase as well but here we need professional approach not business deals if we have former cricketers and better peoples to handle all things in ICC things can change drastically and results can also improve but this mindset which is allowing just big 3 or 4 to rule this all is creating big mess-up Sri Lanka, West Indies former World Champions in ODI and T20i are struggling badly and test format is also having big setbacks which are not going to recover in near future with this current approach and mind-set of current management.

India, Australia and England are the biggest countries with New Zealand, South Africa and Pakistan are just behind them, but quality gape is widening because ICC is not bringing policies like FIFA for the improvement, and they are also not interested to spread cricket across the globe as well.

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