Topic: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) - page 33. (Read 632719 times)

Thank you for approval! Also, I agree that previous consumption can be cancelled now, if the consumer wills so, since we have the rules outlined to possibly different direction (game theory -orientated optimization task). People may decide for themselves now if they consider it interesting enough to join in.

Previous SCI given to NEW for the technologies is being cancelled as Syksy's proposed game will change the rules of diplomacy.

To be cancelled is 600 SCI from goin2mars and 1500 SCI from myself.

Textwall alert simple thing elaborated...

Disclaimer #1: This minigame introduces a potential new token in game (Diplomacy, DIP), and thus requires still validation by higher-ups. The game itself also could use comments and/or suggestions by anyone.
Disclaimer #2: The minigame is a "black box". That is, I have simulated different scenarios and tried to ensure that it works, but I do not even myself know what's the "best" solution - and as it's co-operative game with option not to uphold their promises (politics, eh?), it might be impossible to guarantee an optimal solution that'd benefit all.
Disclaimer #3: As usual, I will not participate in any way to avoid conflicts of interest.
Disclaimer #4: At the end of the post I have proposed a DIP-"shop" for this event. I reserve the right to adjust the prices and/or add/remove items in this shop (however, I will try to avoid this) - since the game is a black box, unexpected things may happen. My main priority is that the game is both interesting and beneficial to all.


The game will work as follows:

Stage #1a: There will be a ~4 day discussion and validation phase first, based on this post. During this time, I hope that any criticism is presented toward potential flaws in the game, and I will need GM's permission to run this minigame as I will a) Create a new token to CK called DIP (=Diplomacy), and b) Open a temporary DIP-store at the end of the game.
Stage #1b: Notice that during this 4 day period it is still possible to participate in the competition. I propose a maximum cap of 1000 SCI consumption, should one wish to participate. Lowest participation amount is 10 SCI. The participants are locked and their respective SCIs are public.

Stage #2a: The rules are locked and the game is on. What this in practice means, that people are completely open to discuss to each other about how they wish to spend their SCI. Everybody will need to send to each other SCI in a "closed envelope", and one may not send any to themselves or save any of it. The number of such send-transactions does not have a maximum, but each send has to be at least 1 SCI.
Stage #2b: The Stage #2 will last for a week. By the end of this time, I will need from everybody their closed envelope either through IRC or BCT private message on how they wish to transact their SCI to other participating players. This is "diplomacy". Players are dealing with each other and may form coalitions or they may together plan how to optimize their DIP gain as co-operation (if we optimize the whole sum of DIP gained, this would be the optimal way). However, players are also allowed to break promises - it's diplomacy! Backstabbing or deviating from plans that others have will give an advantage if done correctly - please refer to the DIP generation formula to see how you could make things work in your favor. It is also possible that all players together work for the common good.

Stage #3: After the 1 week is over, I hope to have received everybody's decisions. Those who consumed SCI but didn't tell me how they wished to spread it, will be randomized. Then each of these "closed envelopes" are revealed and made public to all players. Then the DIP gain for each player can be computed as a function of their own transactions as well as those done by others.

Stage #4: Each player will gain their DIP and a DIP-store (see end of store) is open, where an admin (e.g. me) will exchange DIP tokens into practical CK items. As I mentioned before, I will reserve the right to still tune this store and it will be open for only a short period of time, as it aims to model the diplomatic result of the particular event (in this case Crypto Kingdomians meddling in Swedish affairs).

Notes:
- You are NOT allowed to take screenshots/videographic etc material to prove to anybody of what you put in your closed envelope. You may only *claim* that you did something.
- There's no limit on number of transactions or individual persons to send SCI to,
and the amount can be between 1 and the total SCI you originally deposited to the minigame. However, to a single person you may only send SCI once.
- I hope the discussion during Stage #2 to be free and interesting (and also some of possibly private if people wish to work together in smaller groups) between participants is allowed; to lie is allowed! Twisting the truth seems to be a key in diplomacy / politics

The subgame is inteded to be a co-operative game with possibility for optimization, freeride and/or treachery.
The outcome of this minigame will be a novel currency called DIP, named after Diplomacy (token).





Example scenarios to illustrate the game:


As we see, initial SCI correlates with the resulting SCI gain, but people didn't really optimize a) the overall gain, which would've benefitted everybody, b) their individual gain by gaming the formula.



Syksy gained a lot as he had invested a lot, but he could've got much more by optimizing his spread. Too bad the minors hated him.
SyksyII gained the most in proportion by staying faithful to his lord, and he was under the radar by everybody else except his lord.
Minor1's small scale distribution gave him a bit and potentially screwed up the plans of the rest of the minors.
Minors 2 and 3 gained a bit extra due to breaking the secret pact with minor 4, but was it worth it? Dunno...
Minor 4 suffered the most as he thought the pact would hold and is probably bitter in the future to minors 2 and 3.


--- Diplomacy tokens ---

My proposal:
Bring in a new token currency "DIP" (=Diplomacy), which is similar to CUL in the sense that it cannot be traded. It can only be gained through special means such as:
- Minigames such as this
- NPCs that are specialized in diplomacy
- County policies that relate to nearby foreign nations
- Roleplay that focuses e.g. on diplomacy (like spending time abroad at a particular nation, GM decides)

It would have a "shop" similar to IC, while the convertibles would be specific to the CK's diplomatic situation at the time
- During war, cheaper mercenaries and/or special PIS/CANN/H#/...
- During peace jewelry, wines, unique arts/crafts and such
- Special gifts from Sweden right after this event etc
The shop would however be much less flexible than the current IC shop, and may be even closed most of the time.

--- Preliminary DIP-shop suggestion ---

I propose the following DIP-shop to be available right after the event (run by me):
10 DIP -> 1x KMT
100 DIP -> 20x KMT
100 DIP -> 1x H3
1000 DIP -> JWL-SS: Ring Bearing the Sign of the Lion from the North (yearly dividend of 1 CUL?)
1000 DIP -> 1x H5
10000 DIP -> JWL-GA: Recognition by Gustaf Adolph himself (can be a necklace, ring, document, etc; yearly dividend of 20 CUL?)
10000 DIP -> 1x H7
Feel free to suggest otherwise, whatever fits to the "Sweden" theme. I was for example thinking CKG and/or CKS in some form (other than just jewelry).



I'd appreciate any feedback, I hope to put this game to action asap. I will make a post of people's SCI consumptions so far once I get approval that above game is good enough.

The Quartermillenial Great Council has assembled
Nominations for the council are following:

Grand Master of the QGC
HE Prince Syksy Syyskuu of Petrichor, Marquess of the Maple Leaf, Overseer of Weaponry, Arts, Consumption and Wikidom, 20th/I Bt of CK, Fatherhead of the Syyskuu Lineage, CEO of the Grizzly Bear, Grizzly Gear and Jester Corp, AOK-K, AOD-Capt, KI, HB, CB, TB, CCB, SCB, GCB.

Grand Ambassador of the QGC
Baron Tombot.

Treasurer of the QGC
TA Sir Mooo, the Blessed Margrave of Stonehaven, 29th/I Bt of CK, Councillor, AOK-K, AOD-Maj, Learned Naturalist, DOL-K, KI-K, MG-4, TB, KFB, CCB.

Master-of-Wine of the QGC
Baron Lloyd, The Fourth Of His Name.

Sergeant-at-Arms of the QGC
HSH TMA Blessed Heroic Cultured Duke of OZ, Patron of The Arts, 3rd/I Bt of CK, AOD-Col, OD-K, KH, RT-K, MG-4, RT-K, FBB, TB, CB, KFB, HB.

Lady-in-Waiting of the QGC
Countess Erin the Red, Lady of Pada.

Tiebreaker of the QGC
TMA Blessed Cultured Sir Hokusai, Earl of Ghibli, Zen Master, 14th/I Bt of CK, CB 47 points.

Congratulations to players who made it to the Quartermillenial Great Council!
You can start using your new title immediately, and remember to also add it to your character on the character page.

The final scores from the Top of the World are in. See how your character did here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1peOkmuO7fY29xVjYDnCS7JsFTXRo2OZAmvULG-OQxiY/edit#gid=0

Nobles who will receive Quartermillenial Great Council Nominations
According to the highest point total at the end, 7 nominations will be awarded, starting from the highest point total (who will choose the first), until the 7th.
(I will be contacting the players soon, who can choose their nominations.)

HE Prince Syksy Syyskuu of Petrichor, Marquess of the Maple Leaf, Overseer of Weaponry, Arts, Consumption and Wikidom, 20th/I Bt of CK, Fatherhead of the Syyskuu Lineage, CEO of the Grizzly Bear, Grizzly Gear and Jester Corp, AOK-K, AOD-Capt, KI, HB, CB, TB, CCB, SCB, GCB. 84 points.

Baron Tombot 76 points.

Baron Lloyd, The Fourth Of His Name 58 points.

Countess Erin the Red, Lady of Pada: 56 points.

TA Sir Mooo, the Blessed Margrave of Stonehaven, 29th/I Bt of CK, Councillor, AOK-K, AOD-Maj, Learned Naturalist, DOL-K, KI-K, MG-4, TB, KFB, CCB: 54 points.

HSH TMA Blessed Heroic Cultured Duke of OZ, Patron of The Arts, 3rd/I Bt of CK, AOD-Col, OD-K, KH, RT-K, MG-4, RT-K, FBB, TB, CB, KFB, HB. 53 points.

TMA Blessed Cultured Sir Hokusai, Earl of Ghibli, Zen Master, 14th/I Bt of CK, CB 47 points.

Congratulations to the exemplary players who got nominated to the Quartermillenial Great Council!


Commoner promotions of 1665

Taika has been promoted to  L7 Wizard.

Meep has been promoted to L6 Master.
Bucket has been promoted to L6 Master.
Meatman has been promoted to L6 Master.

Eili Lember has been promoted to  L4 Novice.

Deborah Eva has been promoted to L3 Beginner.
Toady has been promoted to L3 Beginner.

Congratulations to all the promoted commoners!

Probably should make that a provably fair dice or people (eventually) will say that the game is rigged to be another good ol' boys club. At the moment it feels as rigged as Evan's masternodes on steroids. And this is coming from someone who owns a lot of CAN. At the apex of this game is a gambling mechanism, and a gambling mechanism that benefits some and is hidden is not part of the cryptoanarchist spirit that built Bitcoin and Monero (though maybe it doesn't matter to most and we can look forward to more of the same from the very people who claim to be part of the solution--I don't know, I just know that gambling with provably fair dice would make me feel better as an investor and a gambler).

Cool,but there is no bid/ask offer there. I guess there will be once the clans module will be implemented. Until that let's fire up the markets on Agora. 

I would love to see a volume chart on every item listed in the marketplace. << suggestion for the gamemaster

Yes
Here
https://counterwallet.io/
But you need to select CKGAME with XCP
After you enter trade section to the right in the middle of the screen!

I remember that some while ago it was discussed if CK should be or not exchanged on an external exchange as well. I couldn't watch all the posts so at the moment is CK trading on another exchange than the Agora?

Submission network visualization

Please find attached a network visualization of the current situation of submission in the Crypto Kingdom. Node sizes are linearly proportional to the amount of submission (base node size at 10, after that submission is incremented by the arrows with worth 1/2/3 to the receiver of submission). Attached is also the R-code to produce this plot, so it can be later extended by anyone.

EDIT: If and when things get more complicated, some more sophisticated network layout algorithms probably ought to be used, but for now a naive layout seems to work just fine.


R code:

Current (confirmed) submissions:

SUBMIT 91 36 1 (angus to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 336 36 2 (goldbug to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 978 36 3 (Phoenix to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 1059 36 3 (toady to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 1032 36 3 (Rostibarn to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 36 88 1 (Zechariah to Mooo)
Submit 138 88 1 (Syksy to Mooo)
SUBMIT 118 49 3 (Zephyrus to Church)


Unconfirmed submissions:

SUBMIT 31 36 3 (djjacket to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 94 36 3 (noms to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 88 36 1 (Mooo to Zechariah)
submit 130 36 2 (Crichton to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 200 36 2 (ChrisPop to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 215 36 2 (tombot to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 1047 36 3 (Deborah to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 29 36 1 (Luigi to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 211 36 1 (Erin to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 111 36 3 (goin2mars to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 7 36 1 (saddam to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 57 36 1 (Riddick to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 99 36 1 (Gabriel to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 230 36 1 (Gaben to Zechariah)
SUBMIT 1029 36 3 (Dannybreal to Zechariah)

Current rebellions:

(none)

SUBMIT 1029 36 3

The updated list of promotions, health and happiness points can be accessed here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1peOkmuO7fY29xVjYDnCS7JsFTXRo2OZAmvULG-OQxiY/edit#gid=0

Char 1047 will be receiving a promotion for year 1665. All weekly promotions will be given in a batch on Sunday evening.
Same for the new players who are still level 0, they will get their level upgrades on Sunday.

Earl Gaben spends much of his daysnights catching up with the state of the Kingdom. So much so that he finds it hard to make time for himself, but such is the unfortunate state of affairs upon taming his natural circadian rhythm for less fortunate events. While it's already been four, perhaps in three more years, he may be able to allow it to return it to its own will.

Regardless, he submits to Zechariah, in praise of one who does right.

SUBMIT 230 36 1

HH TMA Duke Saddam of Ramsey, 7th/I Bt of CK, CEO of Pawnshop, AOK-S, King’s Hero, RT-K, AOD-C, MG-4, KFB, CB, HB, TB
submits to HRH Prince Royal Zechariah, etc x3, incumbent Head of the House of Tavastia-rpietila-CK. It is good to have open communication and also:


It just doesn't do for Zechariah to be without the castle. We left 10,000 CAN in there for you to enjoy.

SUBMIT 111 36 3

The Countess certainly enjoys reading many of the Prince of Tavastia's missives, and is happy to

SUBMIT 211 36 1

to continue listening to the Prince's tales.

To the Marquess of the Maple Leaf,

You have been a light of wisdom and counsel on the CK chat, and I pay homage to your availability (not to mention the time dedicated to making this adventure in the dreamlands).

Please find enclosed 175mil M2, this now fairly static currency, which might or might not give again.

Erin the Red, Countess of Pada

SUBMIT 29 36 1

Also, TMA Prince of Rome, CEO of LuckyLionCorp, TRB, GJB, KFB, FBB, HBB, AOK-K, CBB, recognizes Zechariah's current IRL situation, and has decided to give back.


It is but a token amount compared to the gifts he has himself received, however not insignificant on its own.

SUBMIT 1047 36 3

As for the gift I've already gave it before submitting!

P.S. I'm trying to stay on top of the world so I can get the bonus ... but i'm still level 2