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@xtraelv are you cryptopia representative?
Cryptopia brings us customers our AU coins now!!!!
Everybody knows that this coin is not gold backed now but it will be, this is the first coin to declare that he wants to be attached to gold since 2014 long before ETH and all new gold backed ICO this is why this coins is AU symbol, so I have no clame to AurumCoin but to cryptopia I have claimes.
I am your customer I pay you fees, you hold my coins for me. So or you bring back all my Aurumcoins or you bring me back 1,280usd for every coin I hold in your scammy exchange that I see in my balance and cannot withdraw.


Obviously you can't read and live in a fantasy world.

1) I've clearly stated previously numerous times that I am not Cryptopia staff nor authorized to speak on their behalf.
2) You want Cryptopia to pay you 1,280usd per coin for a coin that traded for less than $4 when the exploit occurred and has not had any volume sales since.
3) You blame Cryptopia for an exploit that happened entirely on the Aurumcoin network, that hasn't been fixed, hasn't been re-embursed and the coin devs are  attempting to shift the blame. No attempt by Aurumcoin has been made to identify the attacker nor re-emburse for any loss that occurred due to an exploit on the coin network they created.
4) You and Aurumcoin keep on making proven false claims that negatively affect the investments that I have.
5) A coin that you shill and appear to represent caused a loss to me.

How much further do you want to take this ?
1. So shut up
2. Yes or let me withdraw my AU
3. Yes! They could mine, manage the nodes and see anomality, they were robbed and they have fault.
4. I only care about my investements.
5. Only time will tell

I recomend not to invest in cryptopia, because they freez markets and dont bring back coins.
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@xtraelv are you cryptopia representative?
Cryptopia brings us customers our AU coins now!!!!
Everybody knows that this coin is not gold backed now but it will be, this is the first coin to declare that he wants to be attached to gold since 2014 long before ETH and all new gold backed ICO this is why this coins is AU symbol, so I have no clame to AurumCoin but to cryptopia I have claimes.
I am your customer I pay you fees, you hold my coins for me. So or you bring back all my Aurumcoins or you bring me back 1,280usd for every coin I hold in your scammy exchange that I see in my balance and cannot withdraw.


Obviously you can't read and live in a fantasy world.

1) I've clearly stated previously numerous times that I am not Cryptopia staff nor authorized to speak on their behalf.
2) You want Cryptopia to pay you 1,280usd per coin for a coin that traded for less than $4 when the exploit occurred and has not had any volume sales since.
3) You blame Cryptopia for an exploit that happened entirely on the Aurumcoin network, that hasn't been fixed, hasn't been re-embursed and the coin devs are  attempting to shift the blame. No attempt by Aurumcoin has been made to identify the attacker nor re-emburse for any loss that occurred due to an exploit on the coin network they created.
4) You and Aurumcoin keep on making proven false claims that negatively affect the investments that I have.
5) A coin that you shill and appear to represent caused a loss to me.

How much further do you want to take this ?
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@xtraelv are you cryptopia representative?
Cryptopia brings us customers our AU coins now!!!!
Everybody knows that this coin is not gold backed now but it will be, this is the first coin to declare that he wants to be attached to gold since 2014 long before ETH and all new gold backed ICO this is why this coins is AU symbol, so I have no clame to AurumCoin but to cryptopia I have claimes.
I am your customer I pay you fees, you hold my coins for me. So or you bring back all my Aurumcoins or you bring me back 1,280usd for every coin I hold in your scammy exchange that I see in my balance and cannot withdraw.
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We can try to inform some things to the staff and admins ,
sometimes its just a little thing and the problem is solved but other problems or real importend things about accounts on cryptopia you have to create a Support ticket ! 

We just try to inform Users here and the same way back to the Support team if we get some Infos ! 

We looking to help how far it is going and as Xtraelv told we do this volunteer !
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Okay I see, I didn't know Lafu and You were just volunteer moderators. But at the same time, I thought to myself if there is a member who is passing through here and who already experienced this situation... I'll wait until early next week before creating a support ticket, not in hurry yet, thanks btw  Smiley
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Hey guys, I know it happens often to the site but never got this problem since, and today is the first time a message is displayed "Deposits under investigation, etc" It's already 3 or 4 days since. How many days on average it usually take to Cryptopia to resolve such issues? Can it takes over a week?

Disclaimer:  I am not Cryptopia staff (neither is Lafu). I am a volunteer moderator for their trollbox and discord channel and user of their services. Cryptopia does not have staff that answer questions on Bitcointalk as it is not recognized as an official communications channel. I am not authorised to provide any statements on behalf of Cryptopia. This is personal opinion only.


Every situation is different.

You need to talk to Cryptopia directly (via their official support system)

It is likely that they are unable to provide a timeline if it is an ongoing investigation involving external agencies.






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Hey guys, I know it happens often to the site but never got this problem since, and today is the first time a message is displayed "Deposits under investigation, etc" It's already 3 or 4 days since. How many days on average it usually take to Cryptopia to resolve such issues? Can it takes over a week?
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Great if this such a small deal (all AU stolen from cryptopia is worth less than listing a coin to cryptopia)
Then bring me back my coins!!!
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I'm not sure why news articles keep regurgitating the same untruths.
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What’s worse is that cryptopia exchange do not admit it. This is not the way to solve this problem.”
Waht did they not admit ? It is published on their website. https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=AU

At least that article explains it accurately:
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However, the fact is, AurumCoin lacked the hash rate to prevent a 51 percent attack


https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=AU

Note the date of the Cryptopia statement: 9 November

Check the date of the Aurumcoin website:
10 November: https://archive.fo/iNLQa
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Cryptopia exchange was hacked, a total of 15,752.26 AU is missing from Cryptopia’s wallet

11 November: https://archive.fo/cOcYF
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Cryptopia exchange was hacked (51% attack), a total of 15,752.26 AU is missing from Cryptopia’s wallet. Aurum coin network is not the responsibility of anyone, same as Bitcoin network, it is open source distributed crypto currency. What’s worse is that cryptopia exchange do not admit it. This is not the way to solve this problem.

Whenever there is an issue there is an investigation and a report is made to the relevant authorities. This can take time.
I don't know what the amount of coins were involved but 15K of Aurumcoin was worth around $50K in October. Which is less than the cost of listing a new coin on Cryptopia.

Coins pay to be listed on Cryptopia.

Part of the listing criteria is their ongoing obligations:

https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=5d7482d2db9e9bc032a664a14a96199f

It includes:

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You need to give us notice of the following:
Major issues with your coin, including hacks or network problems, as soon as you become aware of them.

https://cryptohub.online/ 80% of AU held by Cryptohub stolen
This stolen AU could have been used for the 51% attack.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1165615.1240
Did Aurumcoin inform Cryptopia of previous 51% attacks ?

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Is your protocol and consensus mechanism secure? We may decline coins we think are vulnerable to 51% attacks.

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Be aware of our delisting policy and your ongoing obligations:

Cryptopia reserves the right to remove any coin listed in its exchange markets for violations of our listing terms. This is solely at our discretion. Reasons a coin may be eligible for delisting include, but are not limited to:

Any network issues or vulnerabilities that could be exploited. Examples include:
Low hash-rate.


Reason to delist:
https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=b8aa010ddb452b80d7e096888a961934

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The following criteria are required to be met by coin projects at the time of the listing:
 
Active and visible development team with at least two contacts given to Cryptopia (Lead Developer and CEO or Marketing Representative).

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Below is a list of factors that are being constantly reviewed by our Cryptopia Service Delivery Team that may result in a token/ coin being delisted:

The token/ coin no longer meets our listing criteria.
A loss of, or poor communication between coin teams and our Cryptopia Listing Team.
Project is abandoned, *e.g.: No visible coin team, no working block explorer, no active updates on code repo, or no working website.
The token's/ coin's blockchain becomes compromised or there exists a possibility to be compromised based on hash rate, namely a 51% attack.


Disclaimer:  I am not Cryptopia staff. I am a volunteer moderator for their trollbox and discord channel and user of their services. Cryptopia does not have staff that answer questions on Bitcointalk as it is not recognized as an official communications channel. I am not authorised to provide any statements on behalf of Cryptopia. This is personal opinion only.

When a 51% attack occurs it means that the coin blockchain is neither immutable nor decentralized.

When a 51% attack occurs the transactions that occur and the blockchain mining is entirely controlled by the attacker.

In order for a 51% attack to occur the blockchain (which is coded by Aurumcoin Developers) provides confirmations that appear on the block explorer which is provided by Aurumcoin (part of the listing conditions) which are produced by the nodes (which use the code produced by the Aurumcoin developers). These confirmations are then accepted by the wallet code (which is made and provided by Aurumcoin).  These confirmations are later rejected by the Aurumcoin network and orphaned. The transactions that now make up part of the blockchain were privately mined and not broadcast publicly. It is a clear exploit of the Aurumcoin Blockchain.

A coin network can prevent a 51% attack by:

Providing sufficient mining reward.
Utilizing a hybrid POW, POS network (or masternodes).
Making the algorithm that is ASIC resistant to make it difficult to rent sufficient hashrate to perform an attack.
Introducing checkpointing.
Utilizing other technical solutions.


An exchange can prevent a 51% attack by:

Not accepting any deposits / de-listing a coin.


An exchange can make a 51% more difficult by:

Increasing required confirmations to over 200 confirmations
(More confirmations will just result in longer / more costly attacks)
Time-locking user funds so they cannot withdraw it from the exchange.


I explained it here: 51% attacks explained
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OMG Announcement from AurumCoin
a total of 15,752.26 AU is missing from Cryptopia’s wallet

IS THIS TRUE? YES OR NO?

Just fake news !


It is not True.

Cryptopia wasn't hacked or something else !

The wallet was placed into maintenance while we investigate network issues.
Thank why don't you give to withdraw the coins?
Are you official represent cryptopia? Why they not say this on Website?
Maybe who knows about this stolen coins hide this from you? Is it possible?
Answer of cryptopia

"Thank you for contacting Cryptopia Support.

Our recent Aurum Coin investigations have concluded that the AU network was victim to a 51% attack. We are in contact with the AU team and are trying to reconcile the resulting issues, will provide further updates in the near future.
We appreciate your patience while we work to resolve the resulting issues.

Kind regards,
Olivia"


https://www.ccn.com/claim-crypto-exchange-lost-500000-due-to-aurumcoin-51-attack/
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How to contact the Exchange Administration? I'm tired of waiting!!!!

Like suggested earlier. Post your transaction details from the blockchain on here.

Cryptopia is a licensed Financial Service Provider.
The process is described on their risk statement can be viewed here: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/RiskStatement

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If you are unsatisfied with our resolution of your complaint, you can, without charge, contact our approved dispute resolution scheme provider – Financial Dispute Resolution Service – using the details found on its website: https://fdrs.org.nz/.

Having read and understood the terms and conditions as well as the risk statement is a requirement for using their services.




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By accessing and using our services, and each time the user (you) uses our services, you acknowledge having read this risk statement and agreeing to the terms and conditions.
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/RiskStatement

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Please read the Cryptopia Risk Statement carefully for a summary of some of the risks that you must understand before you use the Platform or Services.
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Terms
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Lafu, after you checked this, what is your response?

My response is the same as before , Check the News Page on Cryptopia from time to time about the AU thing !
At the moment they still investigate about the 51% Attack !

More i dont know and cant say , Sry !

Look at the News Page please and if i get any news and info i will post it here too !

Regards Lafu
Thanks hope for good news soon
Now market is closed over a month.
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Lafu, after you checked this, what is your response?

My response is the same as before , Check the News Page on Cryptopia from time to time about the AU thing !
At the moment they still investigate about the 51% Attack !

More i dont know and cant say , Sry !

Look at the News Page please and if i get any news and info i will post it here too !

Regards Lafu
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OMG Announcement from AurumCoin
a total of 15,752.26 AU is missing from Cryptopia’s wallet

IS THIS TRUE? YES OR NO?

Just fake news !


It is not True.

Cryptopia wasn't hacked or something else !

The wallet was placed into maintenance while we investigate network issues.
Thank why don't you give to withdraw the coins?
Are you official represent cryptopia? Why they not say this on Website?
Maybe who knows about this stolen coins hide this from you? Is it possible?
Answer of cryptopia

"Thank you for contacting Cryptopia Support.

Our recent Aurum Coin investigations have concluded that the AU network was victim to a 51% attack. We are in contact with the AU team and are trying to reconcile the resulting issues, will provide further updates in the near future.
We appreciate your patience while we work to resolve the resulting issues.

Kind regards,
Olivia"

Lafu are you from cryptopia at all?

Lafu, after you checked this, what is your response?
When market will be open?
When can I withdraw AU coins?
Do cryptopia admit that it lost coins from its wallets?
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Beware of Fake Cryptopia APPS.

There are no real Cryptopia APPS.

Make sure to check that the site address is spelled correctly: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz & ENDS in .co.nz

More about phishing here: How to avoid getting your exchange account HaCkEd or pHiShEd

Fake EMAILS, APPS and WEBSITES



FAKE emails NOT from Cryptopia



FAKE APPS NOT from Cryptopia - Cryptopia does NOT have an official APP



Fake website made to look like Cryptopia. It mis-spells Cryptopia using incorrect spelling or Cyrillic script

Fake phishing sites even use fake security Certificates.





Be safe and use dynamic 2FA to protect your account. (Cryptopia device or google authenticator) - Use a dedicated email account for the exchange. - Do not keep more funds than you need to on ANY exchange. - Check the security certificate every time you login & bookmark the site. Cryptopia uses Comodo for their security certificate provider.

Always check that the Credentials match:








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Beware of Fake Cryptopia APPS.

There are no real Cryptopia APPS.

Make sure to check that the site address is spelled correctly: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz & ENDS in .co.nz
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Answer of cryptopia

"Thank you for contacting Cryptopia Support.

Our recent Aurum Coin investigations have concluded that the AU network was victim to a 51% attack. We are in contact with the AU team and are trying to reconcile the resulting issues, will provide further updates in the near future.
We appreciate your patience while we work to resolve the resulting issues.

Kind regards,
Olivia"

Lafu are you from cryptopia at all?


Lafu is a volunteer chat moderator for Cryptopia.

He is correct. Cryptopia did not get hacked. The Aurum coin network had a 51% attack. This happens when an attacker has more hashrate than the coin network and the attacker uses this to exploit the coin network.

The network nodes confirm that transactions have taken place but the attacker replaces this part of the chain  with their privately mined chain which causes it to reject the previously confirmed transaction - resulting in "reversed transactions" and lots of orphan blocks.

I explained it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-does-a-double-spend-51-attack-work-explanation-and-examples-5035336

It has happened to a number of POW coin networks recently. It occurs when the coin network maintains insufficient network hashrate to protect against such an attack. The attacker didn't "hack" the coin network. Instead they exploited the low Aurum coin network hashrate and effectively took over the Aurum blockchain during the attack.
The attacker controlled over 51% of the hashrate which over-ruled the legitimate publicly mined transactions by the honest miners.

Coin networks can avoid this by ensuring algorithm and reward parameters such to entice sufficient hashrate. They can also implement checkpointing and other technological countermeasures.

When a coin network falls victim to a 51% attack it is neither immutable nor decentralized.

The most notorious recent 51% attack was the one on the bitcoin gold network which resulted in Bitcoin Gold being delisted from Bittrex.

Cryptopia also have an explanation in their knowledge base:
https://supportcryptopia.service-now.com/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=91fc54cddbfc2b0052d2ef728a961948
Do not agree, if I buy in cryptopia they are responsible, they could manage the nodes. Bring me back my AurumCoins!
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Answer of cryptopia

"Thank you for contacting Cryptopia Support.

Our recent Aurum Coin investigations have concluded that the AU network was victim to a 51% attack. We are in contact with the AU team and are trying to reconcile the resulting issues, will provide further updates in the near future.
We appreciate your patience while we work to resolve the resulting issues.

Kind regards,
Olivia"

Lafu are you from cryptopia at all?


Lafu is a volunteer chat moderator for Cryptopia.

He is correct. Cryptopia did not get hacked. The Aurum coin network had a 51% attack. This happens when an attacker has more hashrate than the coin network and the attacker uses this to exploit the coin network.

The network nodes confirm that transactions have taken place but the attacker replaces this part of the chain  with their privately mined chain which causes it to reject the previously confirmed transaction - resulting in "reversed transactions" and lots of orphan blocks.

I explained it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-does-a-double-spend-51-attack-work-explanation-and-examples-5035336

It has happened to a number of POW coin networks recently. It occurs when the coin network maintains insufficient network hashrate to protect against such an attack. The attacker didn't "hack" the coin network. Instead they exploited the low Aurum coin network hashrate and effectively took over the Aurum blockchain during the attack.
The attacker controlled over 51% of the hashrate which over-ruled the legitimate publicly mined transactions by the honest miners.

Coin networks can avoid this by ensuring algorithm and reward parameters such to entice sufficient hashrate. They can also implement checkpointing and other technological countermeasures.

When a coin network falls victim to a 51% attack it is neither immutable nor decentralized.

The most notorious recent 51% attack was the one on the bitcoin gold network which resulted in Bitcoin Gold being delisted from Bittrex.

Cryptopia also have an explanation in their knowledge base:
https://supportcryptopia.service-now.com/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=91fc54cddbfc2b0052d2ef728a961948

https://i.imgur.com/p3EprSQ.png
https://archive.fo/6BNAw

Coins listed on Cryptopia have ongoing obligations to remain listed outlined here:
https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=5d7482d2db9e9bc032a664a14a96199f

It includes:

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You need to give us notice of the following:
Major issues with your coin, including hacks or network problems, as soon as you become aware of them.

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Is your protocol and consensus mechanism secure? We may decline coins we think are vulnerable to 51% attacks.

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Be aware of our delisting policy and your ongoing obligations:

Cryptopia reserves the right to remove any coin listed in its exchange markets for violations of our listing terms. This is solely at our discretion. Reasons a coin may be eligible for delisting include, but are not limited to:

Any network issues or vulnerabilities that could be exploited. Examples include:
Low hash-rate.


Reason to delist:
https://support.cryptopia.co.nz/csm?id=kb_article&sys_id=b8aa010ddb452b80d7e096888a961934

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The following criteria are required to be met by coin projects at the time of the listing:
 
Active and visible development team with at least two contacts given to Cryptopia (Lead Developer and CEO or Marketing Representative).

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Below is a list of factors that are being constantly reviewed by our Cryptopia Service Delivery Team that may result in a token/ coin being delisted:

The token/ coin no longer meets our listing criteria.
A loss of, or poor communication between coin teams and our Cryptopia Listing Team.
Project is abandoned, *e.g.: No visible coin team, no working block explorer, no active updates on code repo, or no working website.
The token's/ coin's blockchain becomes compromised or there exists a possibility to be compromised based on hash rate, namely a 51% attack.
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Activity: 386
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OMG Announcement from AurumCoin
a total of 15,752.26 AU is missing from Cryptopia’s wallet

IS THIS TRUE? YES OR NO?

Just fake news !


It is not True.

Cryptopia wasn't hacked or something else !

The wallet was placed into maintenance while we investigate network issues.
Thank why don't you give to withdraw the coins?
Are you official represent cryptopia? Why they not say this on Website?
Maybe who knows about this stolen coins hide this from you? Is it possible?
Answer of cryptopia

"Thank you for contacting Cryptopia Support.

Our recent Aurum Coin investigations have concluded that the AU network was victim to a 51% attack. We are in contact with the AU team and are trying to reconcile the resulting issues, will provide further updates in the near future.
We appreciate your patience while we work to resolve the resulting issues.

Kind regards,
Olivia"

Lafu are you from cryptopia at all?
full member
Activity: 386
Merit: 101

OMG Announcement from AurumCoin
a total of 15,752.26 AU is missing from Cryptopia’s wallet

IS THIS TRUE? YES OR NO?

Just fake news !


It is not True.

Cryptopia wasn't hacked or something else !

The wallet was placed into maintenance while we investigate network issues.
Thank why don't you give to withdraw the coins?
Are you official represent cryptopia? Why they not say this on Website?
Maybe who knows about this stolen coins hide this from you? Is it possible?
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