Topic: [DASH] Dash - Building the IoM | Dash Nation Progress Thread - page 35. (Read 41820 times)

How can this dash spammer be allowed to continue?

Here let me try again. Read it. You are saying simply because you have no 100% specific numbers it can't have happened Smiley okay

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.


SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash


This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white.

1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed
2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed.

here are your victims.

3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed.


Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers.

I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it.

Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer.


Threads examining the evidence of the captive instamine and reduction of the minting to magnify such instamining ...PROOF OF SCAM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-the-darkcoindashdashpay-instamine-matters-999886

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-darkcoin-instamine-2-millions-drks-50-of-darkcoin-in-circulation-560138

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/darkcoin-now-known-as-dash-big-scam-lets-take-a-closer-look-559028

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/darkcoin-aka-dash-the-biggest-ongoing-scam-in-crypto-995710

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dash-aka-darkcoin-victim-resources-999084

I didn't mention node count, but given 2 million coins were mined in the first days of dash's existence, and dash's nodes cost 1000 dash a piece, it is very easy to believe those nodes are controlled by those who were mining in those early times.

The main problem is that dash didn't adequately prepare for a decentralized launch--many months, or years, to slowly allow people to accumulate coins to assure the distribution is as fairly distributed as possible. Add to dash's fastmine an emissions cut and dash (intentionally or not) makes the worst case for a large distribution pool.

Yeah, and anyone that wants to check that can check your post history, plenty of answers to it but you seem to have a blind spot to then. Get on and make your assertion if you want an answer to it, you claim Dash isn't decentralised for some strange reason. The network Satoshi created has about 5000 full nodes at the mo, Dashes masternode network has 3600, your point?

I know that dismissing a coin's past would eliminate future issues, but it doesn't work like that. The OP made a statement that I'm disagreeing with, and unless you are willing to argue the merits of that specific criticism, you're the one who is distracting from the topic. I maintain that Satoshi's vision was a decentralized coin ( to be antifragile enough to disrupt fiat and legacy systems, it would have to be). If you feel my assertion is false, feel free to argue the point.

Though I do feel it's ironic that you are attempting to dismiss my current statements by using my past as a barometer.

Didn't take long for you to turn up with your unsubstantiated allegations and general trolling did it? How long do you think you can stay even vaguely on topic this time? Read the title, "Progress", ie. not constant repetitions of history you re-posted several thousand times at this stage. Dash had a rough start, get over it. Its no secret and the only people that seem to give a shit are you and your cronies that insist on disrupting Dash threads, either post something useful or GTFO and go back to siring up trouble over Bitcoins blocksize.

Dash Nation... progress... yeah, entities, the kind of thing that enables users to keep anonymous internet scumbags at a distance. Not mentioned in the Evolution whitepaper but it's one of the fancy tricks you can do with them.

https://www.dash.org/binaries/evo/DashPaper-v13-v1.pdf

Mining 30% of the current supply in the first 48hours makes it centralized by cryptosystem standards (using all available options to ensure a trustless execution of standards). I have to trust that Evan and a few cronies didn't mine the majority of those coins or redistributed them in the months following--there isn't any credible evidence to suggest otherwise, so trust is the only option available (a non-viable one in cryptosystems). You can choose to trust this is so, but that's hardly reassuring for someone with even moderate standards.

Once you address dash's fuliginous beginings, we can move on to why the tech isn't sound, or do you want to skip over dash's centralization issues?

Really?

I know it's not going to be easy to steal back the narrative from you guys, as you've had it for two years...

This thread is about facts. You and your cronies, at this point,  have nothing.

If you do however prove a weakness in Dash, we would be grateful, and I would recommend you get a reward.

The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither.

Thank you for your kind words. It is very exciting.

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dash-the-future-internet-of-money-1430587

Loving the way that Dash has continued to innovate and progress.  I came to Dash later than some but was attracted by the developments and actual delivery of progression.  Very excited about the Prospects of Dash Evolution.  

Are you saying Dash is what satoshi envisioned as true digital money??