Topic: [DASH/XDN/XMR/SDC] Comparison between the most known anonymous coins (MUST READ) - page 15. (Read 33664 times)

When DRK made a marriage proposal with SDC, I saw a lot of SDC bag holders pressuring the SDC dev to refuse the junction, right now stop crying ... SDC could cost a truck of money if you had done the deal with DRK... Now you are begging for investors of DRK and MONERO for that they put money in SDC and even worse, you are trying to denigrate the image of these coins as you  done with several other coins.

 When will you ever learn?

#bad deal  #poor forever.

Dammit. You're a cold-blooded bastard.
SDC got more than XMR. Hands down. (see chart/search heart)
End of. What manner of man r u?…

Fair point, this thread is not an example of SDC spamming. SDC is right in the subject so clearly it is on topic (though there are many other examples). It is an example of ignorant nonsense showing no understanding of how cryptocurrencies work (including their own) being frequently throw out by SDC supporters, as illodin very well identified. I don't always agree with illodin but in this case he's absolutely right.

Dude: an SDC member (i think) started the thread.
And the Chart (which started this whole debate) was inspired by the Shadow community.

Opinion not FUD

FUD = fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

My post promoted none of those, it described what I have seen about your group's behavior. It didn't even say anything about about the coin per se, just about the idiots who post about it.

I suppose it's because everyone is talking about Monero or Darkcoin. Injecting comments about SDC everywhere is quite annoying to see.

FUD alert.

 

pumping shit?
overpromoted?

What just happened? Why'd u get angry? U know full well Shadow has solid tech?!


The SDC community inspired this chart
It is now in the whole crypto-community's hands...
TBH I aint seen any better attempts at inspiring a debate to get some answers

smooth? did u lose ur cool?

Or if a certain government owns those servers already, directly or indirectly.

SDC people run all over these forums pumping their shit. Its the most blatantly overpromoted coin on this entire forum, and furthermore there are constantly ignorant technical comments made by them about how it is like zerocoin because it has minting, isn't copied from cryptonote, zero-knowledge anonymity, etc. (all false).

It's annoying as all fuck, and its not even done by third party trolls trying to create a backlash the way a lot of the Monero faux-shilling has been. It's actual SDC supporters spamming everywhere.

I am Monero core team. If you think I'm biased, ignorant or a pumper, ignore my posts please.

@smooth

Pls clarify what you mean. (I made it large and bold. see above. ty.)

p.s. what is ur relationship with Monero? (Dev/Team/Other/Misc)

Enough said, and I'm sure you agree.


Everyone has a price right? Where did I read that?

I won't be giving my masternode logs to him.

Besides, he claimed if he has the private keys he can de-anonymize 100% of the network. And he is actually a dev for SDC. Maybe he develops style sheets for the HTML wallet dunno.

In order to "reveal everything" you would have to break both unlinkability and untracability. These come from two entirely different cryptographic methods (ring signatures based on EdDSA, and ECDH). If one or the other were broken there would be some degree of leakage but far from a total reveal.

In the event that one or the other were broken, it would be replaced, coins could be moved around some more and linkages to the past severed. Only a double-break would expose everything.

Furthermore there is always some degree of off-chain mixing that occurs naturally in an economy as coins move through merchants, exchanges, p2p casual transactions, gambling sites, lending, etc. much as happens naturally with cash. Are you aware that some (?) banks now record the serial numbers of cash going in and out for each customer using a scanner? Yet because cash moves around "off-chain" in the normal economy, cash transactions between private parties are still fairly private. Likewise even total exposure of the blockchain would still leave a lot of questions unanswered. This is true of Bitcoin as well of course.


 

Obviously by the internet, I meant servers such as those provided by Amazon which is exactly what I typed above the text enlarged, dont be a troll. Does hosting bitcoin nodes online impact the currency in any negative way that might hinder it's most important features? No, but hosting darkcoin's masternodes on servers online, of which most are, could potentially end darkoin's anonymity for a undefined amount of time should an attacker take down the servers drk's masternodes are hosted on.

It isn't true there is "no correlation." Obviously there are all sorts of correlative coinjoin attacks, timing attacks, sybil attacks, etc. That's why darksend does what it does with mixing ahead of time, multiple rounds, denominations, etc. -- to try to defeat these correlations over multiple rounds. However, there is really no way to know how many rounds are needed, how long to wait after receiving coins to start mixing them, how long after mixing to use them, etc. Are 3 rounds enough or do you need 300?

The mathematical analysis that is presented on this to give numbers like 0.0000001% is flawed and deliberately misleading. They are mostly treating as independent events things which may not be independent and also are assuming an ideal model with no leaks (even probabilistic) in each stage. I don't believe it is possible to accurately compute these numbers in a real-world adversarial context. And that's just for public blockchain analysis. Once you include additional information from masternode logs the problem gets even messier.

To be fair various combinatorial, timing, etc. attacks exist with cryptographically-private systems such as cryptonote too. The main difference is the lack of additional inputs (masternode logs) from untrustable third parties, and also the lack of a simultaneity requirement for mixing.

Consult the masternode logs. Profit.

Can you simply explain how you are going to link the donation to WikiLeaks address to my known address A. Because that's what you said, you "can de-anonymize 100% of the network".

Sounds like a mixer, prolly taken from TIPS/Fedoracoin, which was the first with an inbuilt mixer in the wallet.

Not worth talking about.

I don't think navajo is worthy to be added since it is a centralized system with no plan on how to decentralize it, from my understanding.  From section 2.2.8 of their whitepaper:


http://navajocoin.org/files/navajo_whitepaper_march2015.pdf

I asked about this in their thread and they simply told me that it is still the best anon coin ever, even this way.  Yet it seems doubtful.