Topic: [DASH/XDN/XMR/SDC] Comparison between the most known anonymous coins (MUST READ) - page 11. (Read 33664 times)

I didn't notice but both are very very young

+1 Thanks

One thing I noticed. Spreadsheet says Shadow and Monero are both 9 months old.

EDIT: Now changed.

very nice work, thanks david.

Added to the post buddy, thanks

I agree. Nice work

You see guys, this is EXACTLY the kind of thing that does NOT represent the shadow community at all.
So please, don't take seriously what all fanboys of XMR, DRK or SDC side are saying and start having real discussions.

I love my SDCs

We must all unite to 1 alt coin if we want to survive this catastrophe of the ocean of shit coins we built.

We will get burned really fast if the crypto community does not work as a team.

Can we drop the egos and start acknowledging that Shadow is the only coin worth investing.

Best of luck to everyone. The proof is there, what else do you need?

More of the same.  Anybody can look at my comments about tokens.  All I did was say that there are similarities between zerocoin minting and ShadowCash minting, and its cited in the ShadowCash whitepaper.  Anybody can research those whitepapers themselves to see I am telling the truth, and you are just FUDing.  If you spent half the time coding as you do trolling, FUDing, and namecalling on here, then maybe Monero would have a useful GUI wallet.

lmfao child_harold (P3RS3US) has been believing smooth was a friend of him for all the time but it backfired.

Pline I am certainly blunt and when I feel the level of respect due given observed actions is low, abrasive, but I'm not "calling names" at a project (though I do at individuals when those names are deserved), my accusations are not false, and I'm not FUDing in the sense of spreading fear, uncertainty or doubt about SDC. In fact even when it comes to "a competing project" I care far less about how it all turns out that you would probably believe. I view it as a fun and interesting hobby, but certainly nothing worth fighting over. Frankly I would never comment on SDC at all, if people would stop making incorrect statements and hype.

It's a bit absurd for you to be posting those papers when it is quite clear from our interactions that you have either zero ability to understand them, or zero willingness to accept, at least publicly, the correct conclusions I've put forward. Please review our exchange about "tokens" on this thread for a clear demonstration of this.

If you and others stop pumping your coin with ignorant or deliberately misleading claims, I'll have nothing further to say about SDC, frankly it doesn't really interest me. The easiest and best thing for you to do at this point would be to stop talking about the tech at all, because nearly every time you do you get it wrong.

Thanks! Very thorough.

Smooth please don't throw your false accusations at me, when you are the obvious troll, FUDing and calling names to a competing project.  Anybody reading this knows how unprofessional you are, and you give Monero a bad name.  Anybody can verify the claims I have made for themselves if they simply take time to read the whitepapers and research.  Please educate yourself people and don't listen to biased and rude people on the internet who hurl insults and FUD.

ShadowCash whitepaper: http://shadow.cash/downloads/shadowcash-anon.pdf

Cryptonote whitepaper: https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf

Zerocoin: http://isi.jhu.edu/~mgreen/ZerocoinOakland.pdf

Zerocash (extended version): http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdf

video about zerocash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96ULlHhia_Q&feature=youtu.be&t=4h15m8s

For information: Spec Chart for Major Cryptos
XMR and SDC on the right.

There is allot of immaturity in the crypto space, but if we all work together, instead of against each other, the technology will start moving forward way quicker

Thanks David for a great post.

Trolls and spammers are attracting negativity to the space, which is counter-productive.

I think its best we all get educated, instead of listening to what people say on the interwebz

I suspect it's not gonna happen overnight. There will be time to adapt. Likely many years.

I'm not going to repeat. Reread my previous posts.


As an outside observer, particularly given the existence of sock puppets, etc. it is impossible to determine who is saying what. Furthermore I don't keep track of who is The Shadow Team nor do I particularly care.

If people are pumping and spamming and posting incorrect and misleading hype about a coin, the coin is being hyped in a scammish manner. One account that certainly does this is Pline, and I know he is being deliberately misleading because I've discussed these issues with him before, yet he continues doing it.

Or take a look at the DRK vs. XMR thread where SDC was completely off topic, yet repeatedly spammed.

I don't know if he is "The Shadow Team" but he's certainly active on the SDC thread as a supporter so I'll count him as one of "you guys" (as opposed to some random troll who pretends to support something in an obnoxious or misleading manner in order to discredit it; if that were happening to SDC I would support you on that, but that's not what is happening).

Beyond that distinction, I don't care who is The Shadow Team and who isn't, and neither do the people that SDC pumpers are trying to get to buy their crap when the spew hype and spam all over the place.


Again, reread my previous posts.

If you want to clean up SDC's act, then I support you and your efforts. If you want to continue to argue over the hyped and spammed crap that usually comes out of SDC, then fuck you too. You may be a great guy according to David Latapie, but if you're defending liars, pumpers, and scammers then you are a scammer too.

I confirm that I have excellent relations with ffmad and it is thank to him that I was able to make a lasting (and positive) impression on both the audience and the organisator yesterday.

I'm all about burying the hatchet, but this requires all to work on this (XMR fans or SDC fans.
- stop using derogative terms
- get rid of fanboys (reminder fanboy != fan)
- recognize that people (and project) change and that what you are doing now matters more than what you did in the past. Jimmy Wales or in France Xavier Niel made money with porn. Now they run Wikipedia and the most disruptive French ISP. Elon Musk was Paypal; now he is SpaceX and Tesla Motors.
- be serious in willing to cooperate. This means changing your mind, understanding that some things are not technically feasible and move to those wich are.
- learn from your mistakes, other's mistakes and other's successes
- with great powers come great responsabilities. Dev lead by example. If they don't intervene, someone else (most probably a fanboy) will do. And this sucks. If dev don't want to intervene, then someone entrusted and willing to deal with human relationship shall step in. AFAIK, ffmad is this person.

And yes, I'm tired of this too. I really only know ffmad on SDC and he is a great guy. Sure, he has to improve his spoken performance (:-)) but ihe is well-mannered,  devoted, genuinely interested. A lot of people in crypto should learn from him. Yes, I'm biased because we happen to live i the same city and to meet often but this exactly what you should hink about; we have the opportunity to have very-large-bandwith interactions (IRL meetings). This helps. You should try it sometimes.

It couldn't be a math breakthrough, the mathematical unsolvability is proven. It would be on the order of discovering the last digit of pi.

Tech is a different story, it would probably require something moving at faster than c and it's unknown if quantum computing can accomplish that. But a method that could do this could just as easily crack any private key (even SUPERMAN's!), and the whole world would look very different the next day. So we're all screwed then.

1) deceptive promotion ?
Please quote some examples.

any "deceptive PR" may have just been a community member's mistake.
Do u assert The Shadow Team have deceived?


2) misleading statements that are repeatedly made ?
Please quote some examples.

They're not false assumptions and yes they are my point of view (as are all statements made here or anywhere that aren't deliberate lies). I don't expect anyone to give my point of view undue weight, however, people should do their own checking.

Whatever you may believe about the SDC project or the SDC developers, and indeed whatever work they have actually done or are doing, is irrelevant to the fact that aggressive and deliberately misleading and deceptive promotion that mischaracterizes and greatly exaggerates the technical merits of the SDC system is going on frequently on this forum.

I've already addressed some of the specific factually incorrect and misleading statements that are repeatedly made, not only in this thread but across many threads, again and again. But as I said, people should do their own research and not blindly believe what I say.