DEA Agents in Silk Road Case Face Fraud Charges

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Quote from: freedombit on July 30, 2015, 08:54:32 PM

Words from Mark yesterday:

http://www.magicaltux.net/post/124057497654/silk-road-timeline

And now today, police possibly charging Mark:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3f71p2/bitcoin_exchange_ceo_mark_karpeles_to_be_charged/

EDIT:

Where are the addresses?

If there was a theft, then Mark had the addresses, and so do Japanese police. The addresses will have to come out now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33k23y/where_are_the_mtgox_addresses/

It's about time they busted that fraud. It's not like we don't know that he single handedly brought the price of btc up to $1200 each. He's still a criminal and should be punished to the full extent of the law.

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Quote from: cadaf on April 28, 2015, 07:49:25 AM

Here we go boys and girls..... a hour of your day well fucking spent/

http://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/

cannnnnnnot wait for part two

"...This was what the team had been waiting for: a misconfiguration somewhere on the site that revealed the real IP address of Silk Road, which Tarbell proceeded to trace all the way to the state-of-the-art facility in Iceland.

Tarbell had been to the island nation once before and knew some of the officials at the meeting. There was an Icelandic prosecutor present—Tarbell was mildly distracted by how attractive she was, with her fitted skirt, secretary glasses, and hair in a bun—and an attaché from the US embassy. It’s a delicate thing, making requests of another government—a US attorney had written up an official letters rogatory petition, requesting that Iceland honor the bureau’s investigative requests—but the Icelandic authorities were accommodating, and the meeting was over in an hour. Not long thereafter, an Icelandic police detachment entered the immaculate foyer of the Thor Data Center."

Awesome article, thanks for helping me find it.

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It's about #@$ time that he face justice. Let's see if his conspiracy theories can hold up in a court. It's one thing to spew out a lot of nonsense to fabricate a story, it's another thing to prove it. He has all the odds stacked up against him, if you compare him to Ross's case.

He should have left the sleeping dogs, but he just had to poke it, and now they are showing him their teeth. They will come down on him like a ton of bricks now.

He had loads of time to prepare for his defense, so let's see if he can protect himself against the biting dogs. Bring the popcorn, this will be fun to watch. ^HeH^

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Words from Mark yesterday:

http://www.magicaltux.net/post/124057497654/silk-road-timeline

And now today, police possibly charging Mark:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3f71p2/bitcoin_exchange_ceo_mark_karpeles_to_be_charged/

EDIT:

Where are the addresses?

If there was a theft, then Mark had the addresses, and so do Japanese police. The addresses will have to come out now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33k23y/where_are_the_mtgox_addresses/

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Silk Road: Undercover agent admits stealing Bitcoin:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33364349

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Heres Carls force financials for 2014. he received a tax refund of 150k, lol, i think hell be looking at tax fraud as well.. Looks like FOX paid him 20k and thats just to secure his rights, im sure he is owed much more...

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2070122-gov-uscourts-cand-286034-22-0.html

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I believe VJ was a government mole on the Silk Road. If the (US) Government is after you, there is no place to hide. They'll literally stop at nothing and spare no expense to take down their mark.

I was actually surprised it took them so long to arrest Ross. They had direct access to DPR on pidgin, so why not deploy a zero-day exploit and take over his machine? They had no moral qualms about exploiting a javascript vulnerability on Tormail, so why not use a similar strategy against DPR? Half a dozen vulnerabilities are found and fixed on Firefox with every release, so it couldn't have been that hard, especially considering neither Ross nor Variety Jones were using Ubuntu with a standard install of the Tor Browser Bundle instead of a privacy oriented distro like Tails or Whonix.

most logical answer however...............

I have distribution cases.... of a schedule 1.... and they dont typically hold out on bringing everything to light in a case.... granted this is a extreme circumstance and alot of other rules have already been broken etc etc........

but I feel like if it were that easy of an answer...there would have been some indication some shred of evidence that would have made there case that much stronger if they outed vj as one of there own..... but they dident

you know? thats where I get caught up in that mole shit........

shit VJ could be fuggin Snowden....

lulz

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Quote from: AGD on April 30, 2015, 03:29:32 AM

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Quote from: AGD on April 29, 2015, 01:24:54 PM

VJ is Plural of Mongoose aka Thomas Clark. Should be easy for LE to find him for an interview.

If he really is Thomas Clark, then why hasn't he been arrested yet? I think they'd want to do more than just interview him.

Narcotics trafficking, mail fraud, money laundering, conspiracy to commit murder...Variety Jones' CV is rather extensive, to put it that way!

Possible, that they still investigating on him and the arrest is about to come. Also there is still a small chance, that VJ is a mole for LE and is already working on other darknet sites.

first heard this name on here late last night after the bar.. did some poking around.... hes already got legal cases in the works.... but seems hard to rationailze...to me..... that someone so already "on the radar" for lack of a better term.... could be so far from prevelant in the authorities eyes......thus far on a case like this.

not to just aimlessly shoot down theroys here....not trying to be that guy...but im genuinely interested in who tf this is.........

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Quote from: AGD on April 29, 2015, 01:24:54 PM

VJ is Plural of Mongoose aka Thomas Clark. Should be easy for LE to find him for an interview.

If he really is Thomas Clark, then why hasn't he been arrested yet? I think they'd want to do more than just interview him.

Narcotics trafficking, mail fraud, money laundering, conspiracy to commit murder...Variety Jones' CV is rather extensive, to put it that way!

Possible, that they're still investigating on him and the arrest is about to come. Also there is still a small chance, that VJ is a mole for LE and is already working on other darknet sites.

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Im surprised that Inigo wasn't charged with conspiracy to commit murder. He egged DPR on to murder Green. He did strike some sort of deal in October, his sentencing is this October. Maybe they said we wont charge you with the murder rap. I think hes looking at a ten year mandatory minimum. He was only paid about 1k a week, worked for about a year, so he made about 50k. Sounds like DPR was a cheap bastard... He should have paid his main workers 10 to 20 grand a month for the risk they took, not like he couldnt afford it. he paid out hundreds of thousand for murders that never happened,lol...

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Fucking dirty pigs. Its them who should be in jail for years not dread rob

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Quote from: cadaf on April 28, 2015, 07:49:25 AM

Here we go boys and girls..... a hour of your day well fucking spent/

http://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/

cannnnnnnot wait for part two

Haha, reads like a seedy crime novel:

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Force got Green to sign a waiver, thereby commencing his role in an impromptu staged torture sting against DPR. Soon Green was being dunked in the bathtub of a Marriott suite by phony thugs who were in fact a Secret Service agent and a Baltimore postal inspector. Force recorded the action on a camera. “Did you get it?” Green asked, wet and wheezing on the floor. He’d felt like their simulation was a little too accurate. They dunked him four more times to get a convincing shot.

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that was a great read. like I said before, I believe they Fox is basing the movie off of that article. I bet green thought he was going to die, lol...

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Quote from: AGD on April 29, 2015, 01:24:54 PM

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Quote from: Eastfist on April 29, 2015, 10:07:04 AM

I've always wondered if Roger Ver was some kind of federal agent. Because every time he gets any publicity, they mention he's a convicted felon or something, or that he renounced his American citizenship, as if it adds to his "street cred", like they're trying to endear him to radicals or something. I wouldn't be surprised if he was working with Carl Mark Force and Shaun Bridges from the start. Maybe he's the one who ratted them out.

I think if we find out who VJ is we would know for sure who DPR is and if that named changed hands. I think the Govt. knows who he is. The Govt can find anything out, the question is do they want to spend the resources. If money is no object, they could find anyone...

BTW, I've spoken to Roger many times, I can assure you, hes not an agent... I think his political views changed when he was arrested for selling large firecrackers on ebay. not sure if thats the true story, but have no reason to doubt him. spending one year in jail for that is ridiculous.

Also, Inigo did egg on DPR to kill Green. But the real culprit to convince him was VJ. But lets not forget, it was DPR's decision. At first, he didn't want Green even hurt, just wanted the money back. I guess he should have asked nob for the money back, lol...

VJ is Plural of Mongoose aka Thomas Clark. Should be easy for LE to find him for an interview.

Ive heard that POM wants to be known as VJ, im not sure that plural and VJ are the same person... could be, but who knows. if they do know who it is, he needs to be arrested, lol..

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Quote from: bigasic on April 29, 2015, 12:22:55 PM

Quote from: Eastfist on April 29, 2015, 10:07:04 AM

I've always wondered if Roger Ver was some kind of federal agent. Because every time he gets any publicity, they mention he's a convicted felon or something, or that he renounced his American citizenship, as if it adds to his "street cred", like they're trying to endear him to radicals or something. I wouldn't be surprised if he was working with Carl Mark Force and Shaun Bridges from the start. Maybe he's the one who ratted them out.

I think if we find out who VJ is we would know for sure who DPR is and if that named changed hands. I think the Govt. knows who he is. The Govt can find anything out, the question is do they want to spend the resources. If money is no object, they could find anyone...

BTW, I've spoken to Roger many times, I can assure you, hes not an agent... I think his political views changed when he was arrested for selling large firecrackers on ebay. not sure if thats the true story, but have no reason to doubt him. spending one year in jail for that is ridiculous.

Also, Inigo did egg on DPR to kill Green. But the real culprit to convince him was VJ. But lets not forget, it was DPR's decision. At first, he didn't want Green even hurt, just wanted the money back. I guess he should have asked nob for the money back, lol...

VJ is Plural of Mongoose aka Thomas Clark. Should be easy for LE to find him for an interview.

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Quote from: Eastfist on April 29, 2015, 10:07:04 AM

I've always wondered if Roger Ver was some kind of federal agent. Because every time he gets any publicity, they mention he's a convicted felon or something, or that he renounced his American citizenship, as if it adds to his "street cred", like they're trying to endear him to radicals or something. I wouldn't be surprised if he was working with Carl Mark Force and Shaun Bridges from the start. Maybe he's the one who ratted them out.

I think if we find out who VJ is we would know for sure who DPR is and if that named changed hands. I think the Govt. knows who he is. The Govt can find anything out, the question is do they want to spend the resources. If money is no object, they could find anyone...

BTW, I've spoken to Roger many times, I can assure you, hes not an agent... I think his political views changed when he was arrested for selling large firecrackers on ebay. not sure if thats the true story, but have no reason to doubt him. spending one year in jail for that is ridiculous.

Also, Inigo did egg on DPR to kill Green. But the real culprit to convince him was VJ. But lets not forget, it was DPR's decision. At first, he didn't want Green even hurt, just wanted the money back. I guess he should have asked nob for the money back, lol...

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I've always wondered if Roger Ver was some kind of federal agent. Because every time he gets any publicity, they mention he's a convicted felon or something, or that he renounced his American citizenship, as if it adds to his "street cred", like they're trying to endear him to radicals or something. I wouldn't be surprised if he was working with Carl Mark Force and Shaun Bridges from the start. Maybe he's the one who ratted them out.

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Quote from: cadaf on April 29, 2015, 06:57:35 AM

by far the most intriguing part of this story so far... in my eyes is 'Variety Jones'

its pretty obviously not the jester as some suggested earlier.....

i dont think you go from hacking al queada supported websites, to encourgng btc for murder..... i just cant logically connect those dots.

I agree. Jester is not top of the list anymore.

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Quote from: cadaf on April 29, 2015, 06:57:35 AM

by far the most intriguing part of this story so far... in my eyes is 'Variety Jones'

its pretty obviously not the jester as some suggested earlier.....

i dont think you go from hacking al queada supported websites, to encourgng btc for murder..... i just cant logically connect those dots.

Indeed,
I am still trying to wrap my head around it going through the SR tmeline.

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Quote from: kalus on March 30, 2015, 12:08:41 PM

any chance this would give ulbricht a window to climb out?

Sadly there is about as much chance of Ross seeing freedom in his lifetime as there is Chelsea Manning. Zero percent. Sad

"Carl Mark Force IV" - pretty cool name. Maybe even cooler than: "Dread Pirate Roberts"

He's gonna wish he had a different name when he goes to prison as a crooked cop.

Yeap,
Especially if his fellow inmates are people he busted in the past Kiss

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by far the most intriguing part of this story so far... in my eyes is 'Variety Jones'

its pretty obviously not the jester as some suggested earlier.....

i dont think you go from hacking al queada supported websites, to encourgng btc for murder..... i just cant logically connect those dots.

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