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AGD
legendary
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Keeper of the Private Key
I think Nick Bilton oversaw the second most if not the most important character in the whole Silk Road story: Variety Jones.

He was the "benevolent hacker":

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He’d been doing it all himself, learning on the fly, programming automated transactions and using CodeIgniter to write and rewrite the site after a benevolent hacker alerted him to some major flaws. (“This is amateur shit,” the hacker had said.)

and he appeared later as Cimon:

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While waiting for news from Nob, DPR considered his options. A Silk Road user named Cimon, a trusted adviser who had guided DPR on opsec, programming, and leadership, asked DPR when a transgression against Silk Road requires a lethal response. “If this was the wild west,” DPR said, “and it kinda is, you’d get hung just for stealing a horse.” A few minutes later, Inigo chimed in, “I don’t condone murder but that’s almost worthy of assassinating him over lol.”

This is actually flipping reality:

The tor chat logs show, that Cimon/Variety Jones did introduce him to the idea of killing Curtis Green:

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(2013-01-27 01:13) cimon: As a side note, at what point in time do we
decide we've had enough of someones shit, and terminate them? Like, does
impersonating a vendor to rip off a mid-level drug lord, using our rep and
system; follows up by stealing from our vendors and clients and breeding
fear and mis-trust, does that come close in yer opinion?
(2013-01-27 01:14) myself: terminate?
(2013-01-27 01:14) myself: execute?

and later:

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(2013-01-27 01:21) cimon: So, you've had your time to think. You're
sitting in the big chair, and you need to make a decision. Now, really,
things could move fast in the future.
(2013-01-27 01:21) myself: I would have no problem wasting this guy
(2013-01-27 01:21) cimon: Well ok then, I'll take care of it.

it was not Ross or Inigos idea, but it came from Variety Jones. Inigos comment was 8 minutes later:

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(2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): i don't condone murder but thats almost
worthy of assasinating him over lol
(2013-01-27 01:22) myself: well, this is the wild west inigo
(2013-01-27 01:22) myself: they used to hang cattle theives
(2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): there are certain rules to the
underworld. and problems can sometimes only be handled one way
(2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): thats true

So, if Mr. Bilton is reading this: You still have a chance to clear things up in part 2. If you need more insider information about the man behind DPR, check this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-is-variety-jones-935434.
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Part 2 will focus on the actual investigation and how they brought down Ross' talk about Tarbell, etc. These guys did their homework. From what I've heard, they are basing the movie off of this article.

The movie is going to be a must see, thats for sure...
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Here we go boys and girls..... a hour of your day well fucking spent/



http://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/




cannnnnnnot wait for part two
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Unsurprisingly, the motion for a new trial was denied.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Did anyone read this already?
http://ia801506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824.232.8.pdf

Seems to be taken from Ross Ulbrichts PC: Agent Force giving information about ongoing investigations to DPR.

Edit: Not only that! It shows how Coinbase worked with the feds and a lot more interesting details about the SR case in general.

That was an interesting read. It shows how involved and lengthy the Silk Road investigation was. Bitcoin so far has been such a soap opera. I love it because it's better than any movie or show on cable because it's real. A couple of my friends and I are trying to figure out who will be the next big Bitcoin arrest.
AGD
legendary
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Keeper of the Private Key
Did anyone read this already?
http://ia801506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824.232.8.pdf

Seems to be taken from Ross Ulbrichts PC: Agent Force giving information about ongoing investigations to DPR.

Edit: Not only that! It shows how Coinbase worked with the feds and a lot more interesting details about the SR case in general.
hero member
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This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

I really hope they wait for the Ross outcome (re-trial hopefully and then he is off  Wink )
These types of movies can have a significant affect on people (which is but 1 reason with the government is going to all measures to make sure Ross is not let off the hook. They want to make a HUGE example of him of course.)

I'm sure the film will be in development for a while. It's still at script stage from what I understand. The saga definitely isn't over for sure, but I'm not sure Ross will get out of jail just because of this. Hopefully he does get a re-trial though especially with all this shenanigans that came to light and other evidence they weren't allowed to present for whatever reason.

Preparing popcorn... I also hope they wait it out and see what more interesting stories come out of this trial. I don't see much light at the end of the tunnel for Ross, but corrupt cops will make for interesting plot twists.
sr. member
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This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

And I am sure that this show will never be allowed to be aired in the Cable TV. Even if they allow it, it will be the heavily-censored version. May be they should upload it to YouTube or some other video-sharing site.

While the US government restricts a lot of freedoms I find it doubtful this would ever be censored by cable TV.

Probably not the whole US Government, most are great people. But it only takes a couple.


https://www.google.com/search?q=grey%20state%20movie%20producer%20dead&oq=gre&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j0l2.2254j0j4&client=tablet-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&espv=1&ie=UTF-8
legendary
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Antifragile
Alex Winter being interviewed by Joe Rogan about his film Deep Web. Alex Winter was there at the trial. What a travesty. Just watch from the 1 hour mark for a few minutes. What a laugher (they joke about the journal but then go on about the case.) Also earlier in the video was interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJMjGLcdtOA&feature=share
sr. member
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This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

I really hope they wait for the Ross outcome (re-trial hopefully and then he is off  Wink )
These types of movies can have a significant affect on people (which is but 1 reason with the government is going to all measures to make sure Ross is not let off the hook. They want to make a HUGE example of him of course.)

I'm sure the film will be in development for a while. It's still at script stage from what I understand. The saga definitely isn't over for sure, but I'm not sure Ross will get out of jail just because of this. Hopefully he does get a re-trial though especially with all this shenanigans that came to light and other evidence they weren't allowed to present for whatever reason.
sr. member
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Pre-sale - March 18
Yeah I guess Mark had no reason to hand over the MTGOX bitcoins to the government, did you already forgot about the corruption?  

I dont see him in prison and bet you if Ross was in Japan they would have still put the blame on him.

Mark Karpeles is the guy who single-handedly destroyed the reputation of Bitcoin. The negativity which Bitcoin received after the Mt Gox scandal is going to stay for many years to come. Also, Karpeles destroyed the life savings of tens of thousands of people, some of who were among the earliest adapters of Bitcoin.

So in short, Karpeles is the no.1 enemy of Bitcoin, which makes him a friend of the bankers and oligarchs.

Ive been trying to educate people on bitcoin since I knew about bitcoin. I explained to my uncle, who is an attorney, and when we talked 6 months or so ago, the only thing he can remember about bitcoin is the mtgox scam. So, it totally turned him off to bitcoin. Im sure it turned millions off as well. Those that  understand it, are used to the scams, unfortunately. but bitcoin is going to be hard to go mainstream with so much bad publicity. plus the mt gox deal wasnt small, hundreds of millions are missing...I feel bad for those that lost money on mtgox, but I saw the writing on the wall way before they went under and was lucky to get all my coins off it. I dont understand why so many people didnt see the signs?

Yes I saw the signs as well when I heard how long it took to withdraw and exchange, I already new they were doing things wrong.  I warned people, I should have came on here to warn, everyone to get your money off, but then it would came to, "Where is the Proof"  line.  So the people who lost, had to learn from it.  Remember, is a new kind of bike to ride and people need to learn.  but fuck mad this guy got rich in the expenses of others, would be really nice he was in prison.   Im sure he paid the gov off, like Lynn Ulbericht mentioned.
sr. member
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Pre-sale - March 18
This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

I think they need to wait for the final conclusion I really believe the hitman shit was made up just to build a case out of Ross.
sr. member
Activity: 378
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Pre-sale - March 18
This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

I really hope they wait for the Ross outcome (re-trial hopefully and then he is off  Wink )
These types of movies can have a significant affect on people (which is but 1 reason with the government is going to all measures to make sure Ross is not let off the hook. They want to make a HUGE example of him of course.)

Fuck the US GoV I lost all hope in good no matter DEM or REPUB they are both corupt and faster people realize this and our army, is time to overthrow these fuck faces.  That now only put men and women in harms way but also do harm just to protect themselves.  From Snowden to Ross.  This shows how the Gov works against anything that is threat to them


Briing the P2P dark Markets, and I mean a shit load of them.  Lets see how many FBI, DEA can cover all of them, and keep making more and switching them and make new names.  fuck there Evidence lies, fuck you Obaba, I voted for you and now I see, that no matter your skin color, your the same piece of shit like the rest of them.  A PUPPET with Strings.
legendary
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Antifragile
This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5

I really hope they wait for the Ross outcome (re-trial hopefully and then he is off  Wink )
These types of movies can have a significant affect on people (which is but 1 reason with the government is going to all measures to make sure Ross is not let off the hook. They want to make a HUGE example of him of course.)
legendary
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This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

Haha. It really is. They're actually making a film about Silk Road which the screenplay is being written now by Dennis Lehane (Shutter Island / The Drop). I wonder if they'll include this latest revelation. I've always thought it would make great story for a film but wondered how they could make it work seeing as it will be mostly based on 'online activity'.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3271820/?ref_=nm_dev_5
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1000
Antifragile
This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

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. There’s a strange logic at work here. Even if it were possible to do so through chat transcripts that don’t implicate Force or Bridges, and even if a court were to find that no entrapment occurred, it doesn’t change the fact that none of this would have happened without Bridges’s misconduct

I think I made that point earlier on in this thread, but legal opinion seemed to discount it. How bizarre.

Not to discount what any legal experts here said, but it all comes down to subjective interpretation to a point. Yeah, the laws might be quite "objective" but how the judge, prosecution and defense interpret them are quite otherwise. I brought up a bit of the same as you and the legal experts discounted it.

Regardless, it is nice to see legal experts who see things the way most on this thread have as well.
sr. member
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This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

And I am sure that this show will never be allowed to be aired in the Cable TV. Even if they allow it, it will be the heavily-censored version. May be they should upload it to YouTube or some other video-sharing site.

While the US government restricts a lot of freedoms I find it doubtful this would ever be censored by cable TV.
legendary
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This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

And I am sure that this show will never be allowed to be aired in the Cable TV. Even if they allow it, it will be the heavily-censored version. May be they should upload it to YouTube or some other video-sharing site.
hero member
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Warning: Confrmed Gavinista
This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/

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. There’s a strange logic at work here. Even if it were possible to do so through chat transcripts that don’t implicate Force or Bridges, and even if a court were to find that no entrapment occurred, it doesn’t change the fact that none of this would have happened without Bridges’s misconduct

I think I made that point earlier on in this thread, but legal opinion seemed to discount it. How bizarre.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1000
Antifragile
This case is like made for TV movie.

Could the Crimes of Two Corrupt Agents Free Ross Ulbricht?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahjeong/2015/04/17/could-the-crimes-of-two-corrupt-agents-free-ross-ulbricht/
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