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Quote from: Lauda on January 10, 2019, 03:55:42 AM

Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 10, 2019, 03:50:11 AM

How know who are add me on their trust list, I think only admin can check it.

You could parse the trust system dumps or check individual user's trust list (by adding them to your trust list and temporarily removing everything else).

Wouldn't it just be better to not worry about it? Some of these users have no idea how shitty being on DT can be at times with all the bickering we catch from a rating we left users.

It may be exciting or a position you feel a certain prestige gaining, but unless you have thick skin a lot of users will be posting a shitload of retaliatory feedbacks.

I'd say all users engaging in trading will have to look past a persons trust score(now more then ever) and actually go into the persons profile you are trading with and check all the feedbacks. As well as make use of the active escrows

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Quote from: suchmoon on January 09, 2019, 09:37:38 PM

Quote from: bill gator on January 09, 2019, 08:12:06 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 09, 2019, 08:00:14 PM

Does someone have a quick way to find out who's been removed from DT1?

Sounds like a job for LoyceV!

That's sorted out but there's still a challenge for LoyceV: get a list of removed DT2 members.

I didn't keep track of who was on DT, but there's a list of DT1 and DT2 members created by coinlocket$.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on January 10, 2019, 01:36:14 AM

Also, I think LoyceV might already be working on this, but a page which shows everyone's votes from users with >10 and >100 merit would be nice.

I'm not working on this yet. It would certainly help if theymos' trust.txt.xz would have userIDs instead of usernames , those are terrible to process.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 10, 2019, 03:50:11 AM

How know who are add me on their trust list, I think only admin can check it.

You could parse the trust system dumps or check individual user's trust list (by adding them to your trust list and temporarily removing everything else).

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Quote from: theymos on January 09, 2019, 01:03:26 PM

You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10,

That means 10 peoples should be add me on their custom list who have earned more then 10 merits.

Quote from: theymos on January 09, 2019, 01:03:26 PM

You must have at least 1 person directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 100

That means 1 person should be add me his custom list who have earned more then 100 merit.

If above criteria need become DT1 then I think it's not very easy. How know who are add me on their trust list, I think only admin can check it. However selection methods are not bad.

Let's find 11 people's ( LOL) Wink

Quote from: Findingnemo on January 10, 2019, 03:33:22 AM

I am not sure a banned member is eligible to be a DT member or not. Roll Eyes

Banned user isn't eligible for DT1. But if someone from DT1 put him on their custom list then he will be on DT2. No rules for DT2, because DT2 could be added by any DT1 member.

Quote from: Lauda on January 10, 2019, 03:55:42 AM

You could parse the trust system dumps or check individual user's trust list (by adding them to your trust list and temporarily removing everything else).

Got it , thanks. But it's not easy task.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on January 10, 2019, 03:33:22 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 10, 2019, 03:25:42 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on January 10, 2019, 03:22:45 AM

ChiBitCTy already banned for plagiarism in April 2018 but he was in DT2 list since new trust system implemented,so DT1 members exclude him from your trust list,also please go through your trust list for similar cases if any.

There's nothing wrong with his sent ratings (a ban isn't that relevant) though. Who exactly added him?

BitcoinPenny have ChiBitCTy in his trust list,I am not sure a banned member is eligible to be a DT member or not. Roll Eyes

There's nothing against it, the same way that there is nothing against adding inactive users which pose a greater risk. I've sent Penny a PM.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 10, 2019, 03:25:42 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on January 10, 2019, 03:22:45 AM

ChiBitCTy already banned for plagiarism in April 2018 but he was in DT2 list since new trust system implemented,so DT1 members exclude him from your trust list,also please go through your trust list for similar cases if any.

There's nothing wrong with his sent ratings (a ban isn't that relevant) though. Who exactly added him?

BitcoinPenny have ChiBitCTy in his trust list,I am not sure a banned member is eligible to be a DT member or not. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Bibite on January 10, 2019, 03:07:05 AM

That's what I was planning to do but I wanted to collect proofs during the next days otherwise it's just an accusation

PM'd.

Quote from: Findingnemo on January 10, 2019, 03:22:45 AM

ChiBitCTy already banned for plagiarism in April 2018 but he was in DT2 list since new trust system implemented,so DT1 members exclude him from your trust list,also please go through your trust list for similar cases if any.

There's nothing wrong with his sent ratings (a ban isn't that relevant) though. Who exactly added him?

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ChiBitCTy already banned for plagiarism in April 2018 but he was in DT2 list since new trust system implemented,so DT1 members exclude him from your trust list,also please go through your trust list for similar cases if any.

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That's what I was planning to do but I wanted to collect proofs during the next days otherwise it's just an accusation

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Quote from: Bibite on January 10, 2019, 02:56:45 AM

There are several users now in the dt1 and dt2 who use multiple alt accounts (bought or created themselves)
I would not call them trusted that"s why I was saying the old system was better

There are cases in which an alt account is acceptable (e.g. a collectible store/product account). How about you list who these people are and which accounts are allegedly theirs?

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There are several users now in the dt1 and dt2 who use multiple alt accounts (bought or created themselves)
I would not call them trusted that"s why I was saying the old system was better

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Quote from: Lauda on January 10, 2019, 02:34:16 AM

Excluded krogo until he fixes his list to something much more reasonable (other than pulling in almost every collector into DT2).

same - he is a buddy and I trust him implicitly, though as snap said back in the day..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRv9wGf5pk

and he needs to use that power wisely.. once he trims the list down he will be straight back on my trust list.

Salty, philipma and hilarious are already on mine, I am totally open to feedback from any established/trusted members on my list

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Quote from: Lauda on January 09, 2019, 07:34:53 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 09, 2019, 07:17:49 PM

I have excluded zazarb and krog as well. I'd like to ask other DT1 members to do so at least until these two users clean their trust lists up. It seems they've been adding people they traded with into their lists... who in turn added them perhaps. Not a good use of the system IMO. Nothing against them personally.

I can agree with that. I have messaged krogo already and he has removed some people (2 which I've explicitly requested - both are mentioned in this thread; and some others chosen by himself). His list is still way too large and includes people that have no idea how this system works.

Excluded krogo until he fixes his list to something much more reasonable (other than pulling in almost every collector into DT2).

Quote from: suchmoon on January 09, 2019, 08:00:14 PM

Edit: Salty
Edit2: Tomato
Edit3: philipma1957, BadBear (my memory is lagging horribly)
who else?
We might want to consider reincluding these users for the next round.

Tomato is a big no, BadBear seems inactive (and I'm against adding inactive users, especially now given that they can cause more trouble). I've already added hilariousandco, maybe philipma and Salty are next.

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Quote from: MadZ on January 10, 2019, 01:51:27 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:46:22 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:41:59 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging Grin

And how would you sound when wronged, with no recourse in the corrupt system to clear your name.

Oh, I know, you kiss their ass and cry like a baby.

Sorry, not my style.

Cool

You know, just because you add Cool

to every post doesn’t mean you don’t come across salty af. It’s not fooling anyone.

Good to know.

Cool

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Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:46:22 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:41:59 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging Grin

And how would you sound when wronged, with no recourse in the corrupt system to clear your name.

Oh, I know, you kiss their ass and cry like a baby.

Sorry, not my style.

Cool

You know, just because you add Cool

to every post doesn’t mean you don’t come across salty af. It’s not fooling anyone.

Zin-Zang

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Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:41:59 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging Grin

And how would you sound when wronged, with no recourse in the corrupt system to clear your name.

Oh, I know, you kiss their ass and cry like a baby.

Sorry, not my style.

Cool

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Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging Grin

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Am I right in saying that only DT1s can exclude another member from DT1? So even if you have 100 users (with >10 merit) actively excluding you, as long as you have 10 including you, you will become DT1, unless the other DT1 members exclude you?

Also, I think LoyceV might already be working on this, but a page which shows everyone's votes from users with >10 and >100 merit would be nice. It woild certainly help DT1s to see who is close to inclusion, and whether they want to exclude (or support) that person prior to them getting on.

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Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 10, 2019, 01:17:36 AM

these are pretty sweeping changes. what do people expect the net effect to be?

it seems like getting default trust feedback (green or red) will become a lot more likely, since many more people will become eligible for DT1 vs now. it'll be interesting to see how retaliation/feedback countering plays out.

Using the trust system for retaliation will likely get you removed from DT1. I'm not sure how the new system will play out but it seems likely that people will try to remain DT1 by following the rules.

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