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Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 7. (Read 85490 times)

copper member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 899
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February 14, 2023, 12:41:17 PM
Nice one, maybe you could think about inactive DT2 members, their ratings should lose weigh over time and fade away.😉
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
February 02, 2023, 04:00:57 AM
Theymos reshuffled DT1.

Removed:
     1. Staff HostFat (Trust: neutral) (170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Legendary Dabs (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (905 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary babo (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (2276 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary wwzsocki (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1328 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary Timelord2067 (Trust: +15 / =10 / -2) (968 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary gbianchi (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (1160 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary arulbero (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (952 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary Avirunes (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (420 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary Rmcdermott927 (Trust: +27 / =1 / -1) (140 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Legendary LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +19 / =0 / -0) (6559 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary o_solo_miner (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (399 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary LoyceV (Trust: +28 / =1 / -0) (11628 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary SFR10 (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (1937 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (1298 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary BitcoinGirl.Club (Trust: +1 / =3 / -0) (1277 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Hero Member polymerbit (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (679 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Copper Member crwth (Trust: +4 / =4 / -0) (911 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary webtricks (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1421 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary Ale88 (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1247 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Hero Member julerz12 (Trust: +8 / =5 / -1) (455 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary Vispilio (Trust: +3 / =3 / -2) (1118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Legendary Steamtyme (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (1925 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Sr. Member Agrawas (Trust: +63 / =0 / -0) (463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Legendary GazetaBitcoin (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (3042 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Legendary witcher_sense (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (3393 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Legendary morvillz7z (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1889 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. Copper Member DireWolfM14 (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (3509 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. Legendary 1miau (Trust: +9 / =3 / -0) (4870 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. Hero Member geophphreigh (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (934 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. Legendary zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (3462 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Added:
     1. Legendary phantastisch (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (314 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Donator qwk (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (2354 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary Carlton Banks (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1868 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary ibminer (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1262 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Copper Member Mitchell (Trust: +50 / =1 / -0) (819 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary stompix (Trust: neutral) (4029 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary JayJuanGee (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (6502 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary examplens (Trust: +4 / =4 / -0) (1096 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary dazedfool (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (127 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Legendary bitbollo (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (1726 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary ezeminer (Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (114 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary sandy-is-fine (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (216 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary Jet Cash (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1697 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary condoras (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (587 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary Yatsan (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (694 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Legendary buwaytress (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (2218 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary imhoneer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1085 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary Coin-1 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1782 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary icopress (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (3829 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Copper Member bavicrypto (Trust: +43 / =0 / -0) (150 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary GreatArkansas (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1190 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Sr. Member jopen (Trust: neutral) (439 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Copper Member logfiles (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1251 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Legendary tvplus006 (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (1549 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Legendary DdmrDdmr (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (8710 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Legendary Husna QA (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (2091 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. Legendary Bthd (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (2089 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. Legendary Rikafip (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (4130 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. Legendary FatFork (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1610 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. Legendary NotATether (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (4548 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
January 14, 2023, 01:24:52 AM
I'll leave this here so that people can familiarize themselves with the situation. (~yogg)
The fact that he turned out to be a scammer doesn't mean the feedback he left in the past, and the Trust list he currently has are suddenly wrong.
To quote myself:
Don't confuse your Trust list with feedback
Trust feedback: leave feedback to people you trust or don't trust. Or leave neutral comments.
Trust list: a list of people who's judgement on others you trust (username) or don't trust (~username).

For the record: I don't think scammers should stay on DefaultTrust (even though the rules don't mention it), but there's no rush. He already dropped from DT2 strength (15) to (5).
legendary
Activity: 3178
Merit: 3295
January 13, 2023, 03:04:36 PM
I already have set him on my Distrust List with the Action and things he have done for stole the Coins.
Also i support the flag to 100% , what a shame that this happend .
Thanks for the reminder and post airfinex.
full member
Activity: 173
Merit: 146
January 13, 2023, 07:46:15 AM
I'll leave this here so that people can familiarize themselves with the situation. (~yogg)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=140827#newfeedback (scroll to top of page to see flag)

yogg, degenerate gambler who stole funds.

(Proof) - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5434506
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
January 03, 2023, 02:01:51 AM
Theymos reshuffled DT1.

Removed:
     1. Staff gmaxwell (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (6220 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Donator qwk (Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (2354 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary ibminer (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1262 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Copper Member Mitchell (Trust: +49 / =1 / -0) (819 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary stompix (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (4029 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary robelneo (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (76 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary JayJuanGee (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (6502 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary examplens (Trust: +4 / =4 / -0) (1096 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary SyGambler (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (804 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Legendary condoras (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (587 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary Yatsan (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (694 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary buwaytress (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (2218 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary imhoneer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1085 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary -doubleU- (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1226 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary icopress (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (3829 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Copper Member bavicrypto (Trust: +37 / =0 / -0) (150 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary tvplus006 (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (1549 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary DdmrDdmr (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (8710 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary Husna QA (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (2091 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Legendary Bthd (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (2089 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary Rikafip (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (4130 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Legendary FatFork (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1610 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Legendary NotATether (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (4548 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Added:
     1. Staff HostFat (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Legendary Dabs (Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (905 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Hero Member Nestade (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (773 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary gbianchi (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1160 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Staff dbshck (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (413 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary buckrogers (Trust: +28 / =0 / -0) (179 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary Buchi-88 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (878 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary willi9974 (Trust: +48 / =0 / -0) (863 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary Rmcdermott927 (Trust: +26 / =1 / -1) (140 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Staff achow101 (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (4198 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary minerjones (Trust: +140 / =1 / -0) (1840 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (6559 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary klarki (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (1287 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (1298 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary webtricks (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1421 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Legendary igehhh (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (1080 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary Steamtyme (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (1925 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary sheenshane (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1037 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary coinlocket$ (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (1496 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Legendary Lakai01 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (2005 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary 1miau (Trust: +10 / =2 / -0) (4870 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Hero Member The0ldl_lser (Trust: neutral) (541 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Legendary efialtis (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (1257 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2510
Spear the bees
December 30, 2022, 05:25:45 PM
I don't leave trust anymore unless I PERSONALLY took a large risk on buying without escrow or a large dollar amount thing(s)... Sometimes I don't even bother because I don't think it's anyone else's business what I buy or sell here between parties I personally know and talk to frequently.  Roll Eyes

One adjustment I can think of - (maybe 3 lol) - Ratings - Have a buy/sell/trade option that's mandatory to tick off - or if it's just "General Feedback" too maybe?
I always do neutral feedback if I feel a need to leave a rating for a trade that doesn't deserve a "brand of trust".

Neutral trust is the beach umbrella I lug around to contain 80% of the spectrum from negative to positive.
I fully trust many users, but again, folks in collectibles don't understand the full implications of adding green trust to people for a deal or two. On one hand, this is how the trust system should be used, but oto, the new way it works is flawed. We should think about making a rule where people like this need 3+ green trusts or something, maybe based on number of prior posts or rank maybe?
More liberal use of positive trust = more positive trust dilution... it'll reach an equilibrium and balance itself out... maybe.

It was bound to happen when theymos adopted the cycling DT system: DefaultTrust isn't what it used to be - the handpicked 'trusted' list by theymos - which is a (good? bad?) thing. There should, however, be a more gentle welcome to the forum than the steep learning cliff with an overhang you have to climb over.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
December 24, 2022, 03:34:02 PM
I present: the 2 youngest users on DT2:
The first one has 4 posts and earned 3 Merits, the other has 33 posts (most of them like "LOT 2: 0.26BTC") and 0 Merit.
They're both included by the DT1-member they left positive feedback.


Just another "collectibles section" vs. "The rest sections", like I've mentioned in the past... 🤷‍♂️

I fully trust many users, but again, folks in collectibles don't understand the full implications of adding green trust to people for a deal or two. On one hand, this is how the trust system should be used, but oto, the new way it works is flawed. We should think about making a rule where people like this need 3+ green trusts or something, maybe based on number of prior posts or rank maybe? Tongue

PS - Happy holidays y'all !!

~ owlcatz
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 24, 2022, 03:39:21 AM
I present: the 2 youngest users on DT2:
   504. 3456588: Remi Forte (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   505. 3515598: 10casproj (Trust: awaiting update) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
The first one has 4 posts and earned 3 Merits, the other has 33 posts (most of them like "LOT 2: 0.26BTC") and 0 Merit.
They're both included by the DT1-member they left positive feedback.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 5213
December 03, 2022, 04:34:05 AM
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I knew, but forgot, how to check each member's status without visiting BPIP (and I'm going to do that, but I'm not sure if that data is updated in real time).
The easiest way to check if you're on DT, is by checking one of the profiles you tagged with ";dt" behind the URL:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=20786;dt
And I think the easiest way to check whether you are a DT1 member or not without using BPIP is to check DT voting page.
If you have been listed for voting and your username isn't strikethroughed, you are DT1 member.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 03, 2022, 03:43:43 AM
Am I off DT altogether?
You're on DT2 (strength 29).

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I've neither been added nor deleted, so....
Theymos only updates DT1.

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I knew, but forgot, how to check each member's status without visiting BPIP (and I'm going to do that, but I'm not sure if that data is updated in real time).
The easiest way to check if you're on DT, is by checking one of the profiles you tagged with ";dt" behind the URL:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=20786;dt

BPIP is not real time, but doesn't take long to update.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 5213
December 03, 2022, 03:41:14 AM
Am I off DT altogether?  I've neither been added nor deleted, so....
That means that your status hasn't been changed and you are not a DT1 member.

Yeah I've been here for a hot minute, but when it comes to utilizing the finer machinations of the forum I've been full retard from day one--so I knew, but forgot, how to check each member's status without visiting BPIP (and I'm going to do that, but I'm not sure if that data is updated in real time).
You can check the list of eligible DT1 members on DT update log. Of course, it's possible that a user is eligible for being a DT1 member but isn't a DT member due to being untrusted by other DT1 members.
You can also visit your trust setting page to see the list of all DT1 and DT2 members. (Note that you should add ";dt" to the end of the URL. Otherwise, you will see your own trust network instead of the default trust network.
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 7005
Top Crypto Casino
December 03, 2022, 03:13:17 AM
Am I off DT altogether?  I've neither been added nor deleted, so....

Yeah I've been here for a hot minute, but when it comes to utilizing the finer machinations of the forum I've been full retard from day one--so I knew, but forgot, how to check each member's status without visiting BPIP (and I'm going to do that, but I'm not sure if that data is updated in real time).
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 03, 2022, 02:49:00 AM
Theymos reshuffled DT1.

Removed:
     1. Staff HostFat (Trust: neutral) (170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Legendary phantastisch (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (314 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary Dabs (Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (905 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary yogg (Trust: +33 / =0 / -0) (2102 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Staff dbshck (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (413 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary buckrogers (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (179 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary Lesbian Cow (Trust: +51 / =0 / -0) (731 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Staff achow101 (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (4185 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary bitbollo (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (1703 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Legendary LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (6544 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary sandy-is-fine (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (216 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary klarki (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (1279 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (1294 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary finaleshot2016 (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (905 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary webtricks (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1421 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Legendary igehhh (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1073 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary GreatArkansas (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1190 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary dragonvslinux (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (1584 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary sheenshane (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1036 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Copper Member logfiles (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1251 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary coinlocket$ (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (1496 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Legendary Lakai01 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1998 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Legendary 1miau (Trust: +9 / =2 / -0) (4861 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Hero Member The0ldl_lser (Trust: neutral) (537 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Legendary efialtis (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (1256 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Legendary bullrun2020bro (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (2814 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Added:
     1. Legendary yxt (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (94 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Donator qwk (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (2354 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary babo (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (2268 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Staff Welsh (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (2781 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary ibminer (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1262 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary wwzsocki (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (1327 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary arulbero (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (924 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary examplens (Trust: +4 / =4 / -0) (1093 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary zazarb (Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (507 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Legendary BitcoinGirl.Club (Trust: +1 / =3 / -0) (1266 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Hero Member polymerbit (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (678 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary Ale88 (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1239 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary duesoldi (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2080 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary Kryptowerk (Trust: +45 / =0 / -0) (799 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary Vispilio (Trust: +1 / =3 / -2) (1118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Legendary Baofeng (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (1245 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Hero Member RaltcoinsB (Trust: neutral) (625 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary roycilik (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (1796 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (13136 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Hero Member 3meek (Trust: neutral) (413 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary joniboini (Trust: neutral) (1567 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Legendary masulum (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (1418 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Sr. Member Agrawas (Trust: +52 / =0 / -0) (463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Legendary lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (3317 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Legendary YOSHIE (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (1583 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Legendary Ratimov (Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (8687 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
copper member
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Amazon Prime Member #7
November 24, 2022, 02:00:43 AM

This is one example of why it is important to read the content of trust ratings, and review referenced threads. Those who received these trust ratings will have a better trust score, but anyone looking at those scores will see that the positive ratings are questionable and will act accordingly.

I would also point out that someone engaging in many trades in which they send first is likely to be a safe trading partner, even if sending first in a small number of trades doesn’t indicate the same.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
November 14, 2022, 11:26:42 AM
nope doesnt bug me at all!

simply used it as an example Smiley

my point is everyone should be able to use their list as they see fit. I personally dont use it at all because everytime I add or remove someone, it creates a tidal wave of contacts/posts/dms from people whom I have never dealt with complaining about what I screwed up by adding/removing someone.

THIS ^^^ is Exactly why I sent Theymos a PGP signed message asking to be blacklisted from DT-1 altogether  - I was getting the same kinds of BS, and didn't have time to make everyone happy - PLus, I felt like I was taking up a DT1 slot that could be better utilized by someone who does more scam-busting instead...

BPIP only constantly updates DT1 changes afaik, so I don't get any of that bs anymore, people leave me alone, I haven't gotten one PM about my list ever since! Smiley

legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
November 14, 2022, 11:24:01 AM
@Mopar - Like I said, I distrust users so I don't see their ratings as "Trusted". I still see untrusted feedback, so I know what the hell is going on... Yes, this is MY way of using my list, I'm sorry if it bugs you or something, personally I don't give any F's about anyone else's trust list, so feel free to distrust me back, it's all cool brother! Wink

I don't leave trust anymore unless I PERSONALLY took a large risk on buying without escrow or a large dollar amount thing(s)... Sometimes I don't even bother because I don't think it's anyone else's business what I buy or sell here between parties I personally know and talk to frequently.  Roll Eyes

Again, it's nothing personal, and you are correct- I should have added this to my prior post -

NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO OR TRY, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS USE THEIR LISTS AND FEEDBACKS IN THE MANNER THEY THINK IS CORRECT.

One adjustment I can think of - (maybe 3 lol) - Ratings - Have a buy/sell/trade option that's mandatory to tick off - or if it's just "General Feedback" too maybe?

IDK - I've been thinking of many ways to solve this, but I can't come up with anything - Maybe a separate list/trusts for collectibles folks? Huh

Big thanks to LoyceV for all his work on everything btw, can't thank you enough for all you have done for the forum! Cheesy

nope doesnt bug me at all!

simply used it as an example Smiley

my point is everyone should be able to use their list as they see fit. I personally dont use it at all because everytime I add or remove someone, it creates a tidal wave of contacts/posts/dms from people whom I have never dealt with complaining about what I screwed up by adding/removing someone.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
November 14, 2022, 11:22:19 AM
@Mopar - Like I said, I distrust users so I don't see their ratings as "Trusted". I still see untrusted feedback, so I know what the hell is going on... Yes, this is MY way of using my list, I'm sorry if it bugs you or something, personally I don't give any F's about anyone else's trust list, so feel free to distrust me back, it's all cool brother! Wink

I don't leave trust anymore unless I PERSONALLY took a large risk on buying without escrow or a large dollar amount thing(s)... Sometimes I don't even bother because I don't think it's anyone else's business what I buy or sell here between parties I personally know and talk to frequently.  Roll Eyes

Again, it's nothing personal, and you are correct- I should have added this to my prior post -

NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO OR TRY, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS USE THEIR LISTS AND FEEDBACKS IN THE MANNER THEY THINK IS CORRECT.

One adjustment I can think of - (maybe 3 lol) - Ratings - Have a buy/sell/trade option that's mandatory to tick off - or if it's just "General Feedback" too maybe?

IDK - I've been thinking of many ways to solve this, but I can't come up with anything - Maybe a separate list/trusts for collectibles folks? Huh

Big thanks to LoyceV for all his work on everything btw, can't thank you enough for all you have done for the forum! Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 14, 2022, 11:21:28 AM
Dont like who someone adds/excludes? Then exclude them and move on.
That is how it works. However, instead of just being excluded, I much prefer to see users improve their Trust list, and be active participants in the Trust system.

99% of everyone's trust list is done in retaliation for what someone else did.
I'd say it should be based on what someone did, it doesn't have to be retaliation.

Look at my 3 negatives for example
Two of those are not on DT, so they don't really matter. Many users (including me) have worse feedback from non-DT users.
The only DT-feedback you have, from Vod, doesn't seem like correct use of the Trust system to me.
legendary
Activity: 2254
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EIN: 82-3893490
November 14, 2022, 11:04:54 AM
You can keep my name out of your conspiracies - I don’t partake in tit for tat backscratching for trust feedback

May I suggest you might like to read what I wrote - MrCryptHodl is adding others when they do a trade (not the other way around).

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This is why I dont add or exclude anyone on my trust list - somewhere there is some whining namcy with too much time on their hands worried about someone else and who they trust or who trusts them. Dont like who someone adds/excludes? Then exclude them and move on.

Done.

oh I read it Smiley

but not just directed at you - its the over all theme of this thread. I dont see one person who uses the trust system the way they claim it should be used. 99% of everyone's trust list is done in retaliation for what someone else did.

I once did over 10k in deals with a person, added him to my trust list and had no less than a dozen messages about how I "needed to correct my trust list".

Ever since then, I leave mine blank.  I leave feedback only for those I have done transactions with (and always at least 3 to 4 transactions before I leave any feedback) yet people here still add me to their "distrust" list.

Owlcatz just did 3 or 4 weeks ago - really he has put me on the distrust list/removed me/added me back  -- simply because - well I dont know why to be honest. But that is his choice.

People sit here and literally whine/cry/complain all day long about who does what with their trust list. It is all shit anyways.

Look at my 3 negatives for example -

1. Vod, called me a pedophile lover, a rapist then a scammer and a shitty escrow - we have never had any dealings.

2. todamont, says I am part of some titan coin conspiracy to harrass and steal from victims of some titan theft (when he was proven to have built peeled coins, could not remember where he got the coin he claims titan scammed him on (he never bought it from titan) yet swears the coin is not the peeled one he bought etc etc etc - he sat accusing multiple forum members of either being Tim (from Titan) or aiding Tim without proof.

3. game protect, need I say more?


In the end, everyone needs to do their own research - regardless of trust rating and/or feedback - before dealing with anyone on here.
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