On the off-topic note, I love Dilbert @LoyceV and we studied Dante in school @fillippone and If I remember correctly I had a test on Inferno but that was like a century ago..lol
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Damn, I've been for quite some time in DT1 now. Is there any place we can see how many times we have dropped off the DT1 list?
On the off-topic note, I love Dilbert @LoyceV and we studied Dante in school @fillippone and If I remember correctly I had a test on Inferno but that was like a century ago..lol
On the off-topic note, I love Dilbert @LoyceV and we studied Dante in school @fillippone and If I remember correctly I had a test on Inferno but that was like a century ago..lol
It happened again, on the news released DT update log, theymos has been demoted.
This is an in-confutable proof of the fairness of the algorithm.
So you think it's a coincidence theymos dropped off DT1 right after someone asked about it? This is an in-confutable proof of the fairness of the algorithm.
Again? There is a poem in italian, “Divina Commedia” (the Divine Comedy).
Every Italian spend three years of their life studying it.
One of the most famous verses sounds like:
Quote
Vuolsi così colà dove si puote
ciò che si vuole, e più non dimandare »
(Inferno, III 95-96)
ciò che si vuole, e più non dimandare »
(Inferno, III 95-96)
Loosely translates as
Quote
[And unto him the Guide[Charon]:] "Vex thee not, Charon;
It is so willed there where is power to do
That which is willed; and farther question not."
It is so willed there where is power to do
That which is willed; and farther question not."
In modern English it means:
“This is the will of those in power, ask for nothing else”
End of my Italian lesson.
If my math is correct, your chance of hitting those three long streaks of absence was ~1.4%, probably a bit less because I used 40 months as the time period but in reality the first few months there was no lottery. TBH not as catastrophically low as I first thought it would be.
So given 100 users on DT1, it becomes likely one of them hits the long streaks. Just my luck 
So you're saying theymos doesn't want me on DT1? But doesn't want people to know about it?
But doesn't want people to know about it? I don't know, maybe you don't want to be in it and you hacked the system instead of blacklisting like everyone else
If my math is correct, your chance of hitting those three long streaks of absence was ~1.4%, probably a bit less because I used 40 months as the time period but in reality the first few months there was no lottery. TBH not as catastrophically low as I first thought it would be.
It happened again, on the news released DT update log, theymos has been demoted.
This is an in-confutable proof of the fairness of the algorithm.
So you think it's a coincidence theymos dropped off DT1 right after someone asked about it? This is an in-confutable proof of the fairness of the algorithm.
Again? Isn't it a bit sketchy that it tends to happen in long streaks? I mean if it's completely random, shouldn't the missing weeks be more scattered, once every 3 or 4 weeks months on average. (edit: months obviously)
So you're saying theymos doesn't want me on DT1? But doesn't want people to know about it? The sample is much too small to assess randomness.
(source)
(a google is 1 followed by a million zeros, and a googleplex is 1 followed by a google zeros)
Google is a search engine. A googol is a number (10100). It's quite large, but has 999900 zeros less than your "google". And don't even get me started on how far off you are for a googolplex 
Theymos reshuffled DT1.
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I've had long streaks of not being on DT1:
Isn't it a bit sketchy that it tends to happen in long streaks? I mean if it's completely random, shouldn't the missing weeks be more scattered, once every 3 or 4 weeks on average.
If you roll a n-sided dice, with n being the number of eligible DT1 members, a googleplex number of times (a google is 1 followed by a million zeros, and a googleplex is 1 followed by a google zeros), you would expect the dice to land a certain way such that loyce is not selected in a similar pattern many times.
I've had long streaks of not being on DT1:
Isn't it a bit sketchy that it tends to happen in long streaks? I mean if it's completely random, shouldn't the missing weeks be more scattered, once every 3 or 4
I have a curiosity. Theymos has at some point ceased to be in DT1 to be in DT2?
having even theymos (temporary) demoted by the algorithm is best proof that the algorithm is working in a fair way with all eligible members.
It happened again, on the news released DT update log, theymos has been demoted.
This is an in-confutable proof of the fairness of the algorithm.
I have a curiosity. Theymos has at some point ceased to be in DT1 to be in DT2?
Check DT1-strength of 211 users in 113 weeks (weekly updates):Code:
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having even theymos (temporary) demoted by the algorithm is best proof that the algorithm is working in a fair way with all eligible members.
Vod suggested to make it provably fair, but I guess it's not worth the effort.I've had long streaks of not being on DT1:
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legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 6524
Fully-fledged Merit Cycler|Spambuster'23|Pie Baker
As far as I know he did not cease, per se, from being part of DT1. It's only the algorithm's choices to select some users for being part of DT1. Having him not chosen for DT1 is just a proof that the algorithm is fair with all users. At least, this is how I see it.
Anyway, this is not first time when theymos appears in DT2. I remember that 1-2 years ago it happened again and then another discussion on this matter was started, the general conclusion being that having even theymos (temporary) demoted by the algorithm is best proof that the algorithm is working in a fair way with all eligible members.
Anyway, this is not first time when theymos appears in DT2. I remember that 1-2 years ago it happened again and then another discussion on this matter was started, the general conclusion being that having even theymos (temporary) demoted by the algorithm is best proof that the algorithm is working in a fair way with all eligible members.
I have a curiosity. Theymos has at some point ceased to be in DT1 to be in DT2? I have looked at some pages but I don't see if this is possible or if this has ever been the case. Obviously I haven't read all 136 pages of the thread. I just remember him always in DT1 without being removed, and I don't know if this is the case.
Theymos reshuffled DT1.
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3. Legendary wwzsocki (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1300 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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5. Legendary Avirunes (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (419 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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7. Legendary JayJuanGee (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (5956 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Staff sapta (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. Legendary yahoo62278 (Trust: +31 / =4 / -0) (2090 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Legendary LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (6056 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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Vod went off the deep end… has gone as far creating a website with ognasty’s personal info also listing bayareacoins theymos and my own full name - accusing us all of causing his health issues and that we even contributed to the death of one or more other forum members.
I personally have had zero transactions or even interactions with vod on these forums. His attack on me, calling me first a rapist, then a child molester and lastly his labeling me as a scammer all stem from an incident between BAC and him on discord. Not going to rehash the whole incident - it has been discussed here on more than one thread - but the gist is even though I told Vod I agreed with him - he somehow took it that I was against him in the discussion there and ye brought it here to take it on me.
He has also told other members here he was going to remove me from that site but he not yet done so.
I personally have had zero transactions or even interactions with vod on these forums. His attack on me, calling me first a rapist, then a child molester and lastly his labeling me as a scammer all stem from an incident between BAC and him on discord. Not going to rehash the whole incident - it has been discussed here on more than one thread - but the gist is even though I told Vod I agreed with him - he somehow took it that I was against him in the discussion there and ye brought it here to take it on me.
He has also told other members here he was going to remove me from that site but he not yet done so.
If memory serves correct there might have been claims and counter claims when it came to legal action. The tragedy in all this is that if half the things that are being said are true then was it really necessary for things to develop this far?
I have recently come across some threads from years ago which explain some of the arguments/debates/accusations and the main protagonists involved therefore I understand several issues involved which could be root causes but surely something could have been differently. Maybe if there was mediation back it might not have played out this way where deep rooted animosity got a foothold.
I have recently come across some threads from years ago which explain some of the arguments/debates/accusations and the main protagonists involved therefore I understand several issues involved which could be root causes but surely something could have been differently. Maybe if there was mediation back it might not have played out this way where deep rooted animosity got a foothold.
Yea that’s what I was getting at..
The way the term “not able” was used..
I am unaware of any legal action against Vod but would not be surprised one bit..
I feel bad for Vod
But don’t necessarily disagree with a restraining order..
The way the term “not able” was used..
I am unaware of any legal action against Vod but would not be surprised one bit..
I feel bad for Vod
But don’t necessarily disagree with a restraining order..
Yea that’s what I was getting at..
The way the term “not able” was used..
I am unaware of any legal action against Vod but would not be surprised one bit..
I feel bad for Vod
But don’t necessarily disagree with a restraining order..
The way the term “not able” was used..
I am unaware of any legal action against Vod but would not be surprised one bit..
I feel bad for Vod
But don’t necessarily disagree with a restraining order..
Now he's not even able to post here anymore
He is not able to post here anymore?
I don't really want to get into details of potential off-topic areas of discussion here.... but when there are various disputes between members who had historically been in default trust - and even if they are sometimes (or is it frequently?) being included in the trust lists of other members (who are DT1), then there seems to be topicality here.. unless we can be pointed to some other thread in which we might come across this information -- and there are ONLY so many hours in the day to perhaps get exposed to various topics.. or even knowing where such detailed discussion might exist on the forum...
So in regards to Vod no longer posting, I was presuming death or disability.. but sure, you (PrimeNumber7) may well know more than me (even though you are using the word - "speculation").. because I am just going by an abrupt stop from Vod in posting without my having had come across any explanation and realizing that Vod had been having health issues and even perhaps coming across references to that subsequent to Vod's discontinuing to post (even though at the same time, I had also come across several back and forth squabbles that sometimes seemed to get quite intense between Vod and some other members including but not limited to OgNasty.. and then some of the seeming strangeness of the squabbles continuing even though Vod was no longer posting (or maybe no longer able to post for reasons other than my presumptions)...
If there is some other thread or information source for where there is information of anything other than death/disability of Vod or otherwise voluntary discontinuance (which would be less than a restraining order).. then I would be interested in having that pointed out.
The specific post that I remember reading that made me believe that a restraining order may be involved is this post, specifically this sentence: (appears to be referring to OgN)
I probably will not be allowed to have any more contact with him after this week.
I also vaguely remember OgN threatening to get his lawyer involved in the situation, which if I am remembering correctly, would give credence to my speculation. So in regards to Vod no longer posting, I was presuming death or disability..
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If there is some other thread or information source for where there is information of anything other than death/disability of Vod or otherwise voluntary discontinuance (which would be less than a restraining order).. then I would be interested in having that pointed out.
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If there is some other thread or information source for where there is information of anything other than death/disability of Vod or otherwise voluntary discontinuance (which would be less than a restraining order).. then I would be interested in having that pointed out.
He said goodbye to the forum. His farewell thread is a bit hidden in the Investigations section (I don't really know why it's there instead of the Reputation main one, although I guess it has to do with the controversy he had with OgNasty):
Open message to Matthew and Goodbye
Now he's not even able to post here anymore
He is not able to post here anymore?
I don't really want to get into details of potential off-topic areas of discussion here.... but when there are various disputes between members who had historically been in default trust - and even if they are sometimes (or is it frequently?) being included in the trust lists of other members (who are DT1), then there seems to be topicality here.. unless we can be pointed to some other thread in which we might come across this information -- and there are ONLY so many hours in the day to perhaps get exposed to various topics.. or even knowing where such detailed discussion might exist on the forum...
So in regards to Vod no longer posting, I was presuming death or disability.. but sure, you (PrimeNumber7) may well know more than me (even though you are using the word - "speculation").. because I am just going by an abrupt stop from Vod in posting without my having had come across any explanation and realizing that Vod had been having health issues and even perhaps coming across references to that subsequent to Vod's discontinuing to post (even though at the same time, I had also come across several back and forth squabbles that sometimes seemed to get quite intense between Vod and some other members including but not limited to OgNasty.. and then some of the seeming strangeness of the squabbles continuing even though Vod was no longer posting (or maybe no longer able to post for reasons other than my presumptions)...
If there is some other thread or information source for where there is information of anything other than death/disability of Vod or otherwise voluntary discontinuance (which would be less than a restraining order).. then I would be interested in having that pointed out.
At least five of your twenty-one UID's that you currently trust have been inactive for over one to two years and about ten or eleven of those you currently distrust (including three who are now banned) have been inactive for over one year to upwards of 1,200 days.
Being inactive doesn't make their feedback less valid. And excluded users should remain excluded, even when they're banned I don't want to see their feedback. 
You're right that I don't often change my Trust list.
This seems to be true.
At least five of your twenty-one UID's that you currently trust have been inactive for over one to two years and about ten or eleven of those you currently distrust (including three who are now banned) have been inactive for over one year to upwards of 1,200 days.
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