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legendary
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October 07, 2019, 07:36:53 PM
Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

I think it will be true if the flight was documented in detailed. I get your point about computer, probably you are thinking how to they lauch a rocket in space going to the moon if our computers are not so advance. I don't think there was another way to do it without using computers. That is why I believe that they just shoot it in a location here in Earth that is like the surface of moon. After years, maybe they can able to go to the moon and just gather information and added documentation about their flight and to the moon itself.

It was not much about the computer. Computer is still not a huge thing for spaceflights.
It's metallurgy and Physics mostly, it's about speed and angles. I was too first suspicious how they were able to land on moon back then but has not rocket to reach moon now.
US was able to put men on moon back then because they had no funding restrictions and safety were not a topic. Even today they can repeat it but they don't have the funds for the stunt.
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October 07, 2019, 05:41:52 PM
Ok, don't throw me into the same basket for the believers of conspiracy theories.

I believe Earth is NOT flat. I don't believe there are aliens in Area 51.

But this question is factually not very convincing and it is, did we actually land on moon in 1969.

There are many compelling evidences, facts etc that proves that indeed we landed on moon.

But even in 21st century where there an accident with Kalpana Chawla who merely went to space and came back, it sounds too good to be true that in 1969, we landed on the moon which is around 300000 kms or 186000 miles from the Earth with those time of technologies and successfully came back. Remember, the first apple computer was launched in 1976.

I'm not saying we didn't, I'm just saying that it's not really a question that can be debunked like other theories which says Earth is flat.

I think it will be true if the flight was documented in detailed. I get your point about computer, probably you are thinking how to they lauch a rocket in space going to the moon if our computers are not so advance. I don't think there was another way to do it without using computers. That is why I believe that they just shoot it in a location here in Earth that is like the surface of moon. After years, maybe they can able to go to the moon and just gather information and added documentation about their flight and to the moon itself.
legendary
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October 07, 2019, 10:56:51 AM
Yes all governments are subverted by organized crime and are in collusion. Secrecy is maintained through compartmentalization, "need to know", blackmail and murder. Only folks at the top know the truth, everybody else is a useful idiot.

"it's a big club and you ain't in it" -- George Carlin

There are detailed technical documents on perhaps a hundred thousand components of the US Apollo missions, millions of pages. It would have been impossible to fake all that.

Every lunar soil and rock sample is archived and full datasets available.

The rocks are obviously not from Earth. Any 2nd year geology student can tell that, and anyone else with a half hour of training.

Where did they come from?
legendary
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October 07, 2019, 09:10:01 AM
Yes all governments are subverted by organized crime and are in collusion. Secrecy is maintained through compartmentalization, "need to know", blackmail and murder. Only folks at the top know the truth, everybody else is a useful idiot.

"it's a big club and you ain't in it" -- George Carlin


When we aren't in their club, that's what makes their club a private thing. It's based in the laws that separate public and private. As long as we are public, government can use its policing powers to regulate us. But as long as they are private, their own privacy laws protect them from us, the public.

When people do things in the privacy of their own home - like smoking weed - and government steps in and arrests them, government is acting illegally. The reason why government wins in court is that the people don't know enough law to use the government's own laws against it.

Introducing the Private Membership Association (PMA). The PMA is written agreements regarding the privacy of the PMA organization. This formally brings it out of the public and into the private. The government has no authority except where someone is literally being harmed, and even then, government has to show the harm in court, or it can be penalized.

DuckDuckGo search on "private membership association."
Youtube search on "private membership association."

Get the Constitution, Amendments, and the (at least) 70 Supreme Court cases that show that government has to keep its fingers out of the Private Membership Association. Become private like the government club, and become free.

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October 07, 2019, 01:43:32 AM
Yes all governments are subverted by organized crime and are in collusion. Secrecy is maintained through compartmentalization, "need to know", blackmail and murder. Only folks at the top know the truth, everybody else is a useful idiot.

"it's a big club and you ain't in it" -- George Carlin
legendary
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October 06, 2019, 07:52:18 AM
Apollo 11 Flight Plan.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

Apollo 15 Mission Report.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ap15mr.pdf

Apollo 17 Photographic Archive

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html

Apollo is literally one of the most detailed, documented things in history.




Moon landing deniers don't really care about such trivial stuff like science and proofs, and if there is some argument that doesn't fit their narrative, they will simply make another conspiracy theory (e.g. reason why Soviets never tried to debunk moon landing is because they were actually in  cahoots with Americans) to back it up.


Anyone who uses the argument that "Russia was working with the USA" as a reason to deny the moon landings, doesn't realize that Russia always has reasons for doing things that it does. These reasons are both, independent of the USA, and unknown. Nobody knows the tangle of thinking in the minds of the Russian leaders. A Russian/American conspiracy is not a reason to accept or deny moon landings.

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What?

Moon landing deniers are all Democrats?

Actually, many Democrats, who are down-to-earth supporters of the Democrat party, don't like what the Democrat leaders are promoting. Many are fed up with the stupidity of their leaders, but don't know what to do about it. Loads of them are starting to embrace other parties.

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legendary
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October 06, 2019, 07:48:24 AM
Apollo 11 Flight Plan.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

Apollo 15 Mission Report.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ap15mr.pdf

Apollo 17 Photographic Archive

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html

Apollo is literally one of the most detailed, documented things in history.




Moon landing deniers don't really care about such trivial stuff like science and proofs, and if there is some argument that doesn't fit their narrative, they will simply make another conspiracy theory...

What?

Moon landing deniers are all Democrats?
legendary
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October 06, 2019, 01:00:46 AM
Apollo 11 Flight Plan.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

Apollo 15 Mission Report.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ap15mr.pdf

Apollo 17 Photographic Archive

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html

Apollo is literally one of the most detailed, documented things in history.




Moon landing deniers don't really care about such trivial stuff like science and proofs, and if there is some argument that doesn't fit their narrative, they will simply make another conspiracy theory (e.g. reason why Soviets never tried to debunk moon landing is because they were actually in  cahoots with Americans) to back it up.

legendary
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Merit: 1386
October 05, 2019, 09:26:32 PM
Apollo 11 Flight Plan.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11fltpln_final_reformat.pdf

Apollo 15 Mission Report.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ap15mr.pdf

Apollo 17 Photographic Archive

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html

Apollo is literally one of the most detailed, documented things in history.


jr. member
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October 05, 2019, 03:03:52 PM
There is video footage that you cant deny.
Weird question
legendary
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October 05, 2019, 03:01:37 PM
Bart Sibrel introduce own book about fake Apollo missions:
https://youtu.be/MJ3CXLi73Sc

Haha Bart Sibrel, conspiracy theorist clown  that harassed Buzz Aldrin, got in his face , called him coward and liar, and in return got punched in the face Cheesy  
That is probably highlight of his "career".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_YM9cCtwz4


I feel sorry if you think that aggression (punch in face) is something funny.

If you harass someone on the street, get into his face and call him liar and coward, expect to get punched in the face.
Buzz Aldrin reacted as any man would in that situation. First he tried to avoid the conflict, he kept moving away, but attacker was persistent and in the end got what he deserved.

After all, Aldrin was not charged for attack, witnesses confirmed that  Sibrel harassed and provoked him.



hero member
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October 05, 2019, 08:30:06 AM
Bart Sibrel introduce own book about fake Apollo missions:
https://youtu.be/MJ3CXLi73Sc

Haha Bart Sibrel, conspiracy theorist clown  that harassed Buzz Aldrin, got in his face , called him coward and liar, and in return got punched in the face Cheesy  
That is probably highlight of his "career".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_YM9cCtwz4



Yes, this is of course comedy (no), I haven’t seen anything funny here. Buzz did not want to swear on the bible like many other of his colleagues, but this is definitely not funny.
I feel sorry if you think that aggression (punch in face) is something funny.
legendary
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October 05, 2019, 04:09:37 AM
Bart Sibrel introduce own book about fake Apollo missions:
https://youtu.be/MJ3CXLi73Sc

Haha Bart Sibrel, conspiracy theorist clown  that harassed Buzz Aldrin, got in his face , called him coward and liar, and in return got punched in the face Cheesy  
That is probably highlight of his "career".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_YM9cCtwz4

hero member
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October 04, 2019, 11:05:45 PM
Bart Sibrel introduce own book about fake Apollo missions:
https://youtu.be/MJ3CXLi73Sc
legendary
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September 30, 2019, 10:31:44 AM
I was always interested in how realistic this story is. Was  traveling to the moon possible with those technologies?

One thing discussions "Was the Moon landing a hoax" 100% proves is the very low understanding of science of many people today.
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September 30, 2019, 09:58:24 AM
That flag thing sure does seem suspicious, there are a lot of contents in the net
that debate the whole moon landing thing. Whenever topics on familiar grounds
arise just like this, I can't help to think about aliens, area 51 and ufos, they come
into the picture. This moon landing debate has been going on for years, I find it
intriguing yet with an awe undecided feeling whether I believe it or not. Unsettling
but still fascinating to dwell upon.
legendary
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September 30, 2019, 01:15:37 AM
"... their delusion is that strong."

If you believe they landed men on the Moon in a cardboard box wrapped in foil and streamed it live on TV in 1969, men who then proceeded to call president Dick "I'm not a crook" Nixon for a live interview, then I'm afraid your delusion is much, much, much stronger.

KYS faggot.




This video is generally not realistic to believe!!


Okay, I'll bite.

That video does not AT ALL look like a flag "waving in the breeze."

it is swinging like a pendulum from the top down, and the horizontal waves in the cloth do not move at all. Exactly like one would expect for a flag mounted in a vacuum.

This "flag proof" has been debunked long time ago, and yet people still use it.. like that guy who wrote yesterday that there was only 1 moon landing, he didn't even know about other 5. Amount of ignorance is unbelievable, and yet they like to think about themselves as "critical thinkers"

Those that are wondering how flag could move in vacuum should check Newton's laws of motion.

If physics is too hard, you can also check Mythbusters Moon Hoax Flag Flapping Video.
legendary
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September 29, 2019, 07:32:32 PM
"... their delusion is that strong."

If you believe they landed men on the Moon in a cardboard box wrapped in foil and streamed it live on TV in 1969, men who then proceeded to call president Dick "I'm not a crook" Nixon for a live interview, then I'm afraid your delusion is much, much, much stronger.

KYS faggot.




This video is generally not realistic to believe!!


Okay, I'll bite.

That video does not AT ALL look like a flag "waving in the breeze."

it is swinging like a pendulum from the top down, and the horizontal waves in the cloth do not move at all. Exactly like one would expect for a flag mounted in a vacuum.
legendary
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September 29, 2019, 01:55:39 PM
I think the most convincing proof of the Moon landing came from the former Soviet government.
No one from the U.S.S.R. has ever claimed the U.S.A. astronauts didn't land on the Moon.

The most convincing proof came from ordinary logic and physic.

They sent their signals on radio wave range, so anyone can check if something is really on the Moon or not. I heard version, that americans have sent radio transmitter to the Moon with recorded voices and other. But this theory is also bullshit, because if such would happen, americans wouldn't sent 6 (!!!) mission to the Moon. Why not?

Now because of logic AND math.
For example, probability to fail mission (rocket with transmitter explode or wouldn't land succesfull on the Moon or enything else) is just 20 % (all we know that reptilians from Nibiru which helps americans are good in technology of lie and illusion). So, probability of succesfull mission is 80 %.

But, if we try to send transmitter second time, result sum of positive probabilyty for fisrst and second launch will be like 80 % * 80 % (in Probability theory "AND" == multiplication of probabilities. It sounds like "do not fail first launch AND second")

So, 80 % * 80 % = 64 %. As you see, much less than if you will do it only one time. So, let's count it for 6 probabilities:
"Do not fail first AND second AND third AND fourth AND fifth AND sixth launches" == 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 and it will be just 26 % to not fail ALL laucnhes.

From math and ordinary logic we will understand that it's not adequate to fake the same thing 6 times. One would be enough. 
hero member
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September 29, 2019, 05:39:32 AM
Ok, let`s forget all conspiracy theories, let`s focus on just one question. How the hell is possible that man landed on moon in 1969, and never again after that? Is it possible that technology in 1969 was more advanced then now? How can that be possible? Can someone explain me how the hell you can compare `69 and now?
I`m sure that man never landed on moon! But I think we should congratulate the Americans on one of the greatest tricks ever performed, it`s not easy to do that! To organize all that people to do all that and trick entire world! They did it, well done! How huge that trick is shows that people still discuss it, after 50 years!

What are you talking about, NASA successfully managed to land man on the moon 6 times, and overall 12 astronauts walked on the surface of the Moon.

1.Apollo 11, 1969
2.Apollo 12, 1969
3.Apollo 14, 1971
4.Apollo 15, 1971
5.Apollo 16, 1972
6.Apollo 17, 1972


Just to add,  "How can that be possible?" is a common logical fallacy known as Argument from Incredulity , and it is very popular among those that don't believe Moon landing ever happened.


How do you beleive this goofy missions? Have you ever tried to think critically and not perceive everything that the offitial media say for the truth?
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