Topic: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 - page 26. (Read 20111 times)

Don't worry; I just put in there whatever I thought people may find interesting / useful! Only recently I removed the link, in favor of a new section on my website where I intend to add it back with similar such topics (that aren't mine, but recommended by me).

Maybe they didn't read your opinion or didn't agree; I think now the topic did get enough attention and it was already concluded something will change for next year. Everyone's on the same page as far as I can tell!

You fully deserved all those nominations, because you are one of the few people in this forum I can talk about different things, even if we don't always agree on everything.
Plus you have been very active and all that without paid signature campaign, that is something not easy to understand by most people.
You even advertised some of my topics for free, so sometimes I feel that I owe you some sats  

I was openly against sending merits to voters after last year when one unnamed bounty manager was doing the same thing.
That is why I don't understand why anyone would repeat the same mistake again, with all due respect :/

In a way you're right: I got tons of nominations and don't think I gave a single merit.
On the other hand, psychologically it makes sense that one might get more votes if he merits posts that vote for him - esp. from voters who seem desperate for merits like bounty grabbers, spammers etc., people who have difficulty getting merits (e.g. some have earned 50 merits in 6 years of being on the forum).

By no means I did not want to discredit the initiative from icopress, why would you suggest I take it from him?

I left my 2 sats because I saw there are many questions regarding the manipulation. And I was surprise to see how we all forget about last year's experience too. Haven't we had very similar discussion last year as well? Someone from African local sent merits to whoever nominated him and eventually after being so much talk we all decided to go with the result. It was fair as that happened for the first time but again in the 2nd season it is annoying me that we continue with the same excuse.

I read everything that GazetaBitcoin said here. And I agree. Disqualifying who sent merit will obviously discredit who just did it just to appreciate their nomination and had nothing else in their mind on the other hand rewarding the award to those who had sole intention to manipulate and to use the power of suggestion means you are discrediting the legitimate contestant who deserved to win an award. You are knowingly going to award the title to someone who misused the loop hole.

Let me finish with an example. Is there anyone who has doubt in mind that achow101 is not a bitcoin geek? Well he is indeed. At least old timers will agree with me. I have no idea who will win from that category but just imagine if achow101 was active in this thread and would giving merits to the users who nominated him. We would see him being nominated x times than he has been nominated now.

Guess this contest is no official contest? Not directly supported by the forum owners, right?
As far as I know, this is a contest created by a forum user, correct?

So, not being an official contest nor with the official sponsorship of the forum administrators, they have no responsibility or involvement in it. Unless the forum rules are violated, which they didn't.

The user, or users, who organized the contest use the rules they think they should use and are presented at the very beginning. It is up to each one to participate or not. As a contest for the community, there is an opportunity for everyone to express their point of view.

Now, it's not worth going around saying that everything was done poorly, that the contest was distorted, that it should be done differently or something like that, to the point of offending others. This is totally inappropriate.

Do you think you could do better? Then promote you a new contest.

I don't think it's worth going around here always saying that everything was bad and that some abused it. Unfortunately, this is already known to happen and it will be a struggle that the entire community must continue to try to counteract.

If the contest is suspended so the sponsor deals too. There are no point to run a contest which is obviously is not serving a fair purpose. It's clear that some sort of manipulation and incentivized with merit. The sponsors can do the same for the next event if they are still interested. Fortunately for them, with this one they got some free advertising for sure.

It does not look good that every year you find a hole but still awarding the crown to those who used the hole.

Fair enough, maybe ask admin to disable meriting the post at all. Or give a bold warning that if one sent merit and found abusing the rule then DT members will be requested to tag them. At least this will create so fear in their mind. And if anyone dares to brake the rules then as the rules said, give them a paint in their wall.

Point is, give enough warning so that they do not abuse the good initiative.

I would say that the contest still has to end if nothing at least because of the sponsor. (sounds like a serious sports competition)


So, what about merited voting posts? whether they will be taken into consideration or he will be suspended like the one who sent the merit?
if it will be such a strict rule I can give merits to random posts, and influence, for example, others to be rejected.

Didn't we have similar controversy last year as well. A user who was giving merit to guys last year and he became a winner in one category? We should have learnt something from that experience.

Let me put my two sat in this conversation.

I voted for El duderino_. He sent me 4 merit. Will the community say that I voted him because to get those 4 merits?
Ratimov seems sending merit to those who mentioned him at least once at least after checking some post before and after my voting post. Will we say that those who voted for Ratimov knew that they will get merit for it?

What will and what will not is an argument but it seems merit was playing a vital role in this fun event which none of us expected. There are always those culprits who are okay to ruin the fun to get their personal gains.

I think since this has gone out of the hand, it's better to suspended this season and from the next season make a strict rule that no one is allowed to send merit to any post. If anyone found to send merit to a post that contains his nomination or even do not contain his nomination they will be just disqualified. Consider this, when a name is always in front of you, you are biased to mention the name. Watch it! This is a classic example of the power of suggestion that works with the subconscious mind.

I think you misread what I wrote. I said to be disqualified all those which are sending merits to voters. By doing so they encourage some voters to vote for them, thus influencing the final result, in an abusive way. Please read the posts made within this thread from page 12 forward and you'll understand better. Then please read this post to understand even better.


This suggestion, together with the previous one, were both aimed to offer more fairness to the competition. This contest was made 2 years in a row now and we noticed that there are ways of abusing it and influencing final results. Therefore I made some suggestions for better preventing fraud.

Is it like saying someone standing in for an election shouldn't vote? I really don't understand that point of yours. Nonetheless, I'm suggesting that every comment on the voting thread shouldn't be merited once the thread is opened going forward. No merit should be sent at all, whether to nomination posts or to comments suggested during the voting process. I believe meriting posts tilts the votes. I'm not sure I merited any post that nominated me.

That will be another good way to look at it because those within the ranks mentioned may not have been long in the forum to truly understand its activities and to be familiar with some of the usernames to the point of  knowing what categories to nominate them for.

He transferred the counting task to GazetaBitcoin. DYOR before whining and crying all day. I can't stand it anymore; will put you on Ignore now.

He basically is. Check his topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pov-war-in-ukraine-5387774

Then I had a different opinion about him



But when I realized what icopress really is, then everything fell into place. icopress - is a political addicted person.

This contest was originally dishonest. But since icopress originally introduced such stupid rules - He must to follow them. Changing the rules during calculating competition results - even worse & unfairer



As my BSV followers from russian sub reports to me - your russian speech look likes an accent of US speaking user. And as you know, any Ukrainian has a good Russian speech

You are using pronouns incorrectly. BTW, nobody seen any word of ukrainian from you

icopress - you don't speak both Russian and Ukrainian


WHO ARE YOU MR. DARKNETIAN?




If that's true, why does icopress keep hanging out on the forum? Because while he counts the votes - a bomb can fly into him. Why he does not transfer the managing of the competition to someone from DT?

This is very stupid. If all this is true. He must going to build barricades instead of wasting time there. Freeze that stupid competition or transfer management of competition to a trusted person

You missed a good opportunity to transfer competition management to Ratimov. He would honestly count the votes. Because I don’t see anyone else who would be successful in this role

Either icopress doesn't value his life, or he's not who he claims to be.

Looooooool what were the odds for this post to exist?!

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Thank you as well I am glad I can help you. If you want, fore more info about various illustrious forum members, you can check this topic. There is very much history well detailed there.

That's what happens when people disconnect their brains from their fingers and start responding to gigamegtrolls like ExcimerBitcoinSVkorner.

It happened here. Ironic, isn't it?

Good grief. I just checked the Awards thread for the first time in several months after trying to ignore it, and it has already become a dumpster fire for arguments and personal attacks!

In my opinion, if icopress is not able to process the votes and determine the winners at this time (which is completely understandable), then he should lock this discussion thread and unlock it periodically so he or Gazeta can post periodic updates about the contest status. And then leave it unlocked once the winners are announced. This will put a halt to the garbage that's been going on in the last dozen or so posts.

You're not helping him by putting pressure on him to finish the results.

It feels very unfair to bombard him with complaints about the contest when he's got more important priorities to deal with at the moment - namely, getting out of Ukraine alive with his family.

I didn't vote, or was voted for, so speaking as a neutral here.

Gotcha, thank yo so much! Your explanations seem realistic, honestly.

Thick skin shouldn't even be required not to get butthurt over a fun online event such as this. But I agree that it's always good to have one!

Where did this discrimination against Ratimov or his Russian origin happen exactly? Did I miss something or are you just deliberately trying to cause controversy here? I don't see it in this thread. Did it happen in the local section?

Okay, your right... I understand his situation...
But it is not a reason to discriminate good russian users. Ratimov - is a politically neutral person.

I hate Timelord, he is a sexcoin scammer

I would encourage everyone to come join the Thick Skin Gang!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A