Topic: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 - page 28. (Read 20375 times)

Current contest took so long due to the war context from Ukraine, which prevented icopress from counting the votes faster, from stopping the voting process earlier, from creating the BB code for announcing the winners, from talking to other people involved in the organization of the contest etc. (by "etc." I mean everything which is contest related -- these being activities which take a lot of time; and by "a lot of time" I mean dozens of hours). When a war is on course in your country, nothing is more important (including a contest on a forum) than keeping your family safe. Besides, how many would think about a contest organized by them on a forum, when they and their families' lives are in danger at any second?! I highly doubt that many would think anymore about finishing other activities initiated before their lives started to be threatened -- literally speaking -- at any second. Still, icopress did not abandon this contest and he is still trying, during the few spare time he has, to take it to finish line -- and this is admirable!

In my opinion, even if he would finish this contest in December 2022, this should be understandable, if the war would not end by then. In the context that you fall asleep but you don't know if you are still alive tomorrow, everything else excepting the attempt to keep yourself and your close ones alive is a minor thing... Bluntly speaking, how many have ever lived a situation like this? How many actually know the feeling of not knowing if tomorrow they will be able to open their eyes anymore?

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However, coming back, in normal conditions, if such a contest would be kept for 2 weeks -- let's say, continued with a play-off phase, which would be kept also for 2 weeks, then the entire contest would take about a month. I don't see any reason why it would become more boring. A football championship lasts for one year and nobody gets bored to see the games. Besides, an eliminatory phase followed by a final phase represent a manner to bring more interest for many international competitions.

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Besides, as yahoo said, this contest (together with other contests which took course within the forum) is meant for fun. There should be no rush to reach the finish very fast, as this will only make the fun last less.

How about instead of whining a crying, you do something about yourselves?

The contest was made, people voted, you win or lose. No reason to complain of who is a winner or loser. If you are a winner the congrats. If you are a loser, suck it up and move on.

When you joined this forum, you started your online personality for this forum. You're either a likeable person or not so much. What I'm saying is the things you did or said made you who you are currently in the eyes of all of these people. It's up to you to change and make yourself more likeable. You cannot complain about people using merits or not liking you as much as another. It's a goddamn contest meant to be fun, anyone whining and crying needs muted and disqualified.

It's really disheartening that people always try to ruin something that was meant to be fun.

An old proverb says, "Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."

When someone is generous and happy to help, they don't have to announce they are doing so.

That's why I think Ratimov has nothing to prove, he or anyone else. Each one gives what he can, when he can and to whom he thinks he should give, without wanting anything in return! This is true generosity and support.

Good idea, thanks!

Why go very far. The icopress subscription spreadsheet has its bitcoin address. Many trust him, there is a great opportunity to help someone you know and trust directly. I think he and his fiancée (I saw sandwiches) will put the money to good use. Why look for global addresses, help those you know. 

Is there a trusted address you can recommend to donate to?

Very soon you will have the opportunity to confirm your words 

Do you think I envy you? Well I wouldn’t trade for your position for all the Bitcoin of this world. I didn’t build my profile on mass plagiarism and dozens of threads bragging about my accomplishments to prove something.


Now we come to the point where you have to take other people's words to describe me? In doing so, you do not take the other side of the story as a result of these feedback. If you want to, then I will give one feedback that describes you in the best possible way.

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I really don't want to pollute this thread with personal discussions anymore - if someone has a need (I don't have a personal one) to open a new thread about my or someone else's reputation, feel free to do so.

I suggested penalties either in this thread or the one in Meta regarding the merits. Theymos doesn't have to intervene at all in that case. For each merit that a candidate awards in the thread, he will have one vote removed from his total count. So if you get 20 votes for a certain category, but your rewarded people with 10 merits altogether, 10 of your votes would be disqualified. Ultimately, your final count is 10 votes. 

I think you might have misunderstood what Ratimov tried to say with that comment. I think he was commenting on how long the competitions might last in the future if a second round (playoff) were to be introduced.

I am personally glad that there are people on this forum who are not afraid to say what they really think, regardless of the fact that it may concern some who think that they are some kind of gods of the forum and that some special rules apply to them.


Your idea is good because it does not require intervention by the admin, but since there will be those who will not read the rules and will make this fatal mistake (maybe accidentally) and thus be disqualified, it would certainly be better to merits be completely disabled in that thread. Either way, some of it would be desirable to apply.

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What is really incomprehensible to me is that someone is pressuring to publish the final results, and does not show even the slightest empathy for a person who is fighting with his family for life in a country attacked by his compatriots. I hope he gets his reward as soon as possible and stops whining in this thread.

I don't think this will reach the top of theymos' Todo list. I've seen suggestions to add more control over which Ranks can vote, but that hasn't been implemented either.

It's technically possible to implement such thing. But the real question is whether theymos will implement such thing, especially when new forum software is in development (although no one knows when will it be ready)?

Good, idea but was that ever done before? I mean wouldn't that mean theymos would have to intervene and make this specifically for this contest? Imho, more elegant solution would be to simply disqualify anyone that merits the voters, like @GazetaBitcoin and few others suggested. In the end, it goes in line with bitcoin philosophy about personal responsibility.



In some others forums that I am active on and that are much older than bitcointalk they have the option to make poll voting public, so everyone can see who voted for who. Would something like that be possible to implement here as well, forum software wise?

That's a terrible idea: anyone can vote on a poll, which makes (alt) abuse very easy.

I think it's a very interesting idea. And it can even help to reduce the likelihood of ties arising. In addition to even being able to facilitate who does the collection of votes. Having the specific name of the candidates, the vote can be in poll format and that makes everything simpler and more practical.

I fully understood your point of view, Lucius, as I read your previous posts and I share most of your thoughts. I am sure that icopress also understands you and never thought you would blame him. Practically, the situation that happened was like this: Zeus gave fire to Prometheus, to give it to people thus people would use it to get themselves warm and cook their food, but people used the fire to burn each other's homes. icopress did his best to organize a very complex competition, spent a lot of time to think about categories, eligible voters, contest rules etc., he tried to entertain the forum, in a way, but some took all his efforts as an opportunity for personal benefits.


I am glad my idea has fans and, as I see, you and icopress are two of them. However, if the contest is kept on Ivory Tower board and if it will have a rule to disqualify any user which would award votes, then there would not be necessarily needed to disable merits in the respective thread. If any merit occurs, the respective user is disqualified and, I think, this will be more harsh for him / her.

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I am sorry that you forgot to vote, Welsh...


Certainly, the problems can be mitigated. We can all learn from first two editions of the contest and make the next one greater

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And another suggestion I'd like to make, for the next iterations of the contest, is to have two phases during the contest: a first phase where all eligible users can vote any users they want and a "play-off", where top 5 users of each category are qualified. In the second phase the voters can nominate only users which qualified in the play-off. I think in this way the contest would raise even more interest and it will be more spectacular.

I forgot to vote. I actually intended on voting in some of the categories this year, just things got in the way. Although, I definitely think there's been a few problems with the current format highlighted, and I believe for most of them they can be somewhat mitigated for future additions. I do think there was more interest in this years competition than the previous year, even without all of the controversy surrounding certain voters.

Pretty much every single industry I've worked in outside of this forum, at some point in the process someone is cheating. I could probably count on one hand theThe major reason is a lot of people are motivated by money, which usually means they try to make as much of it as possible, and while merit might not be obviously linked to money, it definitely helps certain users with certain goals.

I also hope that some lessons have been learned from the previous two competitions, in which I unfortunately did not vote for some of the reasons I have already explained in some of the previous posts. Just to clarify that I do not blame @icopress, but individuals who, due to their personal interests, made this competition very questionable.


I fully support this idea, and I would also suggest disabling the merits in this thread in order to prevent competitors from motivating voters in this way.

I think that we learned something from these two contests and, probably, from next edition, icopress will make some changes (assuming that he will still keep the contests going -- of course, with administration's support as well). I advise that one of the changes to specify that all the users voting on any post will be automatically disqualified (in case they will be nominated by someone). In this way, we can avoid all the drama (and / or abuses?) that took course on this contest and, if I remember well, on the previous one as well.

Another suggestion that I am making is to take the contest to Ivory Tower board, thus ensuring that no members with ranks below Full Member are able to interfere. This way we will avoid a good amount of spam. Indeed, this would mean that members with ranks of Newbies, Jr. Member and Member will not be able to vote, no matter if they have more than 50 votes, but, considering the very low amount of such cases (during actual contest we had less than 5 such users, if I remember well) this would not be a problem.

The voting has been closed on 3rd March, and I haven't found anyone else with similar activity. However, there was few more entries from ineligible forum members. All of those posts are deleted now, but some of those ineligible voters has received merits.

Simply they were trying to receive merits. Those votes will not be counted (based on the rules), and they aren't going to be picked for the prizes draw. Those users has successfully received merit from their voting posts. User preikaler is a great example of those abusers.