Topic: [Discussion] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 - page 27. (Read 20111 times)

As always, 1miau speaks the voice of ration. Only a blind one would not observe everything that 1miau emphasized so well here. Fortunately, most of us are not blind.

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n0nce, you may be too new here to know the "iconic figures" of the forum (I suggest you to read mostly the unedited posts from ninjastic.space). Bitcoin SV and others may suffer from severe dementia or, at least, they share the same syndromes. Similar to the old troll Timelord2067 (which, probably after evading from a mental institution started to believe that he lives on Galiffrey), Bitcoin SV probably took him as a mentor and started editing his posts with something which is somehow exactly the opposite of what he stated before. It is not unseen before and, after smoking certain types of shrooms it is possible to get such a severe brain damage that to think exactly the opposite of what you stated just 10 minutes earlier.

But not to worry, we all know them and, in time, you'll also get to know better these "remarkable figures".

It was changed again... Check history here: https://ninjastic.space/post/59518272
One last comment: It should be obvious to anyone with any ability of compassion, but you honestly said this?

How is he a contest cheater if he doesn't hold the funds and he's just busy saving his family from being bombed on?
I can't believe you're being honest here and actually meaning the things you are saying.

He even finds the time to log onto a forum and finding someone (GazetaBitcoin) he trusts to count the votes!
Honestly, I don't know if I would even think about an online contest if my country was under existential threat and attack.

explaining for the stupid

Initially, I thought that icopress was an honest person, but then I realized who he really is.

At March 04, 2022, 05:24:26 PM I am finally realized how slick and deceitful he is

We are all people and we can all change our minds about people, especially if it turns out that a person is dishonest contest cheater.

Don't worry, he's a troll with apparently nothing good to do with his time.

I have to use archive with the quotes since he seems to edit often.

http://archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion/o/vPZwI/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277804.msg59398463%23msg59398463

https://ninjastic.space/post/59426119

https://ninjastic.space/post/59426119

http://archiveiya74codqgiixo33q62qlrqtkgmcitqx5u2oeqnmn5bpcbiyd.onion/vPZwI#msg59426119




Just putting out the facts here, no further comment from me.

You should not to discriminate competition participants for political reason - if you don't want to be redtagged & distrusted. And you may also be excluded from the administrating of following contests because of the loss of confidence in you

icopress does not have access to the Bitcointalk Awards funds.

I think that icopress is cheating and wants to take up the prize money, covering up behind the conflict in Ukraine as a convenient reason

Continued here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-you-think-this-competition-is-fair-bitcointalk-community-awards-2021-5385028

Yes, if you did it only a few times, it should be no problem.
It's more problematic that some people have merited every single time, when someone nominated them. And by doing so, it was incentivizing easy Merit grabs. I would also suspect, that probably a whole bunch of alts voted, if you check some of them, they barely write in other sections than Altcoins / Bitcoin discussion / Trading (traditional signature spam sections) and suddenly posting in that topic about Bitcointalk awards.

Yes, we should definitely slow down a bit here. Someone has already mentioned, but maybe it should be repeated: Bitcointalk Community Awards was launched for fun and it should stay that way.


certainly not something like this, especially not from now already a reputable member.
Ratimov, by the fact that you did not translate that part I guess you were aware somewhere that this was a bad way to discuss.


I sent two or three merits in the voting thread, I did it somehow automatically when I received the mentioned notification. it was only later that I considered that this could be misinterpreted as a vote-buying. My mistake.
I never intended to force myself to receive any reward from there, I would withdraw my participation in the nominations, so whoever does the final count can leave me out.


"Too long; didn't read."   

If this were a petition, I would sign it!

Does anyone even know why this happened? Can anyone tell me what the TL;DR is? Or at least where the conflict started (aside from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, of course).

Guys is it ok if you all just cool down and we don't start a new war in bitcointalk forum, that is maybe one of the last places in the world where we can all still talk freely?
If you two have any personal issues... open a new topic, try talking in private or at least ignore each other until temperature drops.
I don't like when someone is sending merits to voters, but I also don't like when someone is asking a proof for directive donation and directing where to donate.
Peace out.

I see that you are writing a wall of text that makes no sense, as if you are trying to make your answer more meaningful ^{[but I will still answer]}  

Have you gone personal? ... Because this kind of answer perfectly characterizes you as a person characterized by childish infantilism. Although I suspect that a sharp change in your views does not at all relate to this competition, but is based only on the fact that your alleged help was not in demand and now you will not have the opportunity to brag to the public. Such a sharp change in your views could also be explained by the fact that earlier I stated that I was a Russian-speaking Ukrainian, but still I reject this idea, because I cannot imagine that as a bitcoiner you can support Putin's fascist views.

Do you even believe in what you say? Do you really think that those present here will believe that the cardinal change of your paradigm occurred because of my short sentence with a winking emoticon? All I did was not respond to your PM and created a thread [POV / War in Ukraine] so I don’t understand what events of the last days you are talking about, (and this again makes me think that there is a political background hidden behind your actions). But the competence of the feedback you left is another matter, since you left me positive feedback without risking anything, as if you were waiting for a response.

If this is true, then it is commendable, but given how skillfully you interpret the facts and go to all sorts of tricks to put yourself in the best light, I and everyone here are extremely skeptical of your words.

I changed my mind about voting for you because you are a braggart, and I think I can say on behalf of everyone that everyone is already tired of topics in which you praise your achievements, not to mention the spam threads that you do not stop creating (another thing if would you supports all these threads).

In addition, when at the beginning of the event I wrote to you that you should not abuse merit, telling you that either do not send merit or send it to everyone ... you should have abandoned this idea, and on the contrary, you took my words for granted.

First of all, you are a liar ... since I created the updated rules together with the moderator, and I have never given a task without first enlisting the support of one of the moderators of the Russian section. Second, what rule editing are you talking about? Even if you won in one of the categories, the circumstances are such that from now on international delivery with Russia does not work.

I didn't count the votes for this year, and I indicated who would be the steward so you should have sent a message to that person (even if you sent me a PM before I made the announcement).

Hey, Ratimov, not that I disagree with what you're saying, but perhaps you should hold your horses? I understand that you want this to be done professionally, but calling icopress a scum in Russian is superfluously rude, especially when you know that during these days they might have their mental health altered.

Yes, it's a very reasonable idea. There's no doubt that some of the voting members are purely driven to nominate users giving out Merit if you nominate them. It's obvious and somehow an act of "buying" nominations. The people giving out Merit are getting more nominations and the people nominating such members will obtain a cheap bunch of Merits.
That's not how it works and it's outright manipulating the contest.

In my opinion, nominations where a Merit was given by the nominated member, should be removed by half because it wasn't defined in the rules but awarding full points would be manipulation.
Example:

20 nominations
10 nominations with Merit = 10/2 = 5 nominations removed
= 15 nominations

I would also be okay by removing merited nominations entirely to prevent the result from being manipulated by Merits but would prefer 50/50 since it was't stated in the rules.

And next time, we can add it to the rules that giving out Merit, if someone is voting for you, will remove this vote entirely.

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Donating BTC awards to Ukraine sounds very good, much support is currently needed in Ukraine.

No one needs to confirm anything, besides this thread has already said enough about the current flaws in voting, flaws that I intend to fix

I did not count the votes but if you win in one of the categories, instead of ranting, you will have a great opportunity to donate the won funds to one of the Ukrainian funds, but the most amazing thing is that when i wrote about it for the first time, you immediately deleted the positive feedback you left me.

I suspected that most of the mentions of your name in this thread were for a reason, but I could not think that you were so infantile. If I were a touchy teenager like you, I would exercise my right to exclude your person on the basis of at least three good reasons, but I will not do this, because I still hope that over time you will become more reasonable in your actions and words. And for the rest, I wish everyone a peaceful sky over their heads.

yahoo62278 and others are right in saying that such contests should be seen only as a source of entertainment within the community. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just off the mark. There is no reason for anyone to get upset.

The question that everyone should ask themselves is whether they would vote if there were no monetary reward or other incentive to do so? If the answer to that is no, then I would suggest that they are in fact the losers in the whole process. I find it more distasteful when I see how such an initiative turns into a personal contest and the start of hostilities in the community. Yes, there are people who will exploit the system but I feel that the majority of users will exercise good judgment and take the high road.

Current contest took so long due to the war context from Ukraine, which prevented icopress from counting the votes faster, from stopping the voting process earlier, from creating the BB code for announcing the winners, from talking to other people involved in the organization of the contest etc. (by "etc." I mean everything which is contest related -- these being activities which take a lot of time; and by "a lot of time" I mean dozens of hours). When a war is on course in your country, nothing is more important (including a contest on a forum) than keeping your family safe. Besides, how many would think about a contest organized by them on a forum, when they and their families' lives are in danger at any second?! I highly doubt that many would think anymore about finishing other activities initiated before their lives started to be threatened -- literally speaking -- at any second. Still, icopress did not abandon this contest and he is still trying, during the few spare time he has, to take it to finish line -- and this is admirable!

In my opinion, even if he would finish this contest in December 2022, this should be understandable, if the war would not end by then. In the context that you fall asleep but you don't know if you are still alive tomorrow, everything else excepting the attempt to keep yourself and your close ones alive is a minor thing... Bluntly speaking, how many have ever lived a situation like this? How many actually know the feeling of not knowing if tomorrow they will be able to open their eyes anymore?

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However, coming back, in normal conditions, if such a contest would be kept for 2 weeks -- let's say, continued with a play-off phase, which would be kept also for 2 weeks, then the entire contest would take about a month. I don't see any reason why it would become more boring. A football championship lasts for one year and nobody gets bored to see the games. Besides, an eliminatory phase followed by a final phase represent a manner to bring more interest for many international competitions.

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Besides, as yahoo said, this contest (together with other contests which took course within the forum) is meant for fun. There should be no rush to reach the finish very fast, as this will only make the fun last less.

How about instead of whining a crying, you do something about yourselves?

The contest was made, people voted, you win or lose. No reason to complain of who is a winner or loser. If you are a winner the congrats. If you are a loser, suck it up and move on.

When you joined this forum, you started your online personality for this forum. You're either a likeable person or not so much. What I'm saying is the things you did or said made you who you are currently in the eyes of all of these people. It's up to you to change and make yourself more likeable. You cannot complain about people using merits or not liking you as much as another. It's a goddamn contest meant to be fun, anyone whining and crying needs muted and disqualified.

It's really disheartening that people always try to ruin something that was meant to be fun.

An old proverb says, "Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."

When someone is generous and happy to help, they don't have to announce they are doing so.

That's why I think Ratimov has nothing to prove, he or anyone else. Each one gives what he can, when he can and to whom he thinks he should give, without wanting anything in return! This is true generosity and support.

Good idea, thanks!