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Yea, I do agree that star players influence game odds, like I said in my first comment, but I think that they should rather be placed in the second half before football, which is usually tougher during the second half. I think that if star players are added during the second half, they can still do better because even by then, the opposite team players may have felt tired. I don't know if it's just rumors or not, but I have heard before that some times most of those big casinos usually bribe some club or those star players so that they will end up disappointing gamblers, just like you said that start players also disappoint gamblers. I agree with you.
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Yes they do and mostly in goal scoring. Star players are the most skillful players in the pitch so anything happens to them have effect in the team and the game at last. It is not good to put them in the full game because straight playing need strength so it is good for them to play half of the game so that they would have strength to run. Star players disappoint gamblers in most time in goal scoring, they missed important goal to cut odds, especially penalties. I have seen Messi missed a penalty shootout. If a star player was doing well in the first half it is good for him to be changed and and it is good for them to play first half than second half of the game.

In any odd the main thing is to win so if the star players are not involved and the other players are doing well then there is nothing to worry about.
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.
There is no doubt that players have hard there high influence on the odds allocation and just like I said in my previous comment,  the quality of players determines the odds allocation for the club in question and that also influences the outcome of the team resulting in the game.

There is no way, that if Manchester United is playing a bigger club with high-quality players like Manchester City,  the odds must always be in favour of the bigger club which in this case is Manchester City,  since they have better quality players.
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What is clear is that star players on the field will be a very important factor in football and can cause problems for the opposing team. Apart from that, if a team has a very good star player, the opposing team will be reluctant and very careful in playing.
And star players can affect the opponent's mentality if the coach plays them at the right time and has a good strategy, so in my opinion star players greatly influence the final outcome of the match. And what you have to remember is that even if star players don't score goals, star players will be able to provide good assists or be part of the strategy.
That is the influence of a star player in a team who can provide psychological warfare against opposing players and may also be able to suppress the opposing team's play so that they do not have the opportunity to attack. With these star players, a team can use its best performance to attack, find gaps in its defense, and penetrate the defense to get one or several goals. But when the opposing team doesn't care about the presence of star players and still tries to put out their best performance to fight back, maybe they can attack and put pressure on the team, and that has often happened where the opposing team has the mental strength to be able to survive the team's attacks. And it will be a very interesting match to watch, especially if we place a bet.

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There are many athlete can't play as good as they were when they face the star player, they're either too aggressive or making unnecessary mistake. This is because they're don't have a good mentality. For the star players' teammates, they will put a lot respect and try to play as good as possible, also giving many chance to the star players. See, there are many factors when the star players are playing.
It cannot be denied because their mentality has fallen when dealing with star players, and makes them unable to get their performance out. The coach must be aware of this so that he may have to change his strategy in dealing with pressure from star players. The difference is clear, but if there are players who are not affected by the influence of star players, it will be a good capital to get up and turn to press the team. The presence of star players can provide added value to a team so that they can maintain their enthusiasm and achieve victory. And those of us who place bets can also win.
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These star players can also break the opponent's focus, so they will be confused about who they should guard when playing on the field. They might lose control because having a star player could make the coach's strategy fall apart, and that would be an opportunity for his team to counterattack quickly. The coach must have prepared the right strategy to beat the opposing team so that his team can win and advance to the next round. The presence of star players can increase the enthusiasm of other players so that the match will become even more interesting.
There are many athlete can't play as good as they were when they face the star player, they're either too aggressive or making unnecessary mistake. This is because they're don't have a good mentality. For the star players' teammates, they will put a lot respect and try to play as good as possible, also giving many chance to the star players. See, there are many factors when the star players are playing.
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The answer to your question is as simple as a YES, Key players in the sports industry does affect the odd bookies place on a team compared to another team with no key player, For example, when Messi or Ronaldo will be playing alongside other players as team in a match, it is already evident that the chances of such team winning that match is very high due to the presence of Messi, or Ronaldo, so, we dont expect bookies to place a high odds on such team since its expected that majority of the bets coming in will be going towards that team, so what i think bookies do or will do is to make the odds of that team not so attractive to bettors, and make the odds of the opposite or counterparty team more attractive to bettors, so as to discourage one sided bets.
Odds are calculated based on a number of factors and players' ability and standing is some of the major factor to consider when sport bets want to calculate their odds, and Clubs with top players are giving lower odds since their chances 0f winning the match is high compared to the chances of team with weak players.

Just as saying does club standing affect the odds, the answer to this also is yes, what is mostly used to allocate odds to clubs is the ability of the team to win and players are one of the agents of match-winning to clubs.
It is true that a team with top players can increase their chances of winning more compared to a team that is only filled with weak players but all of this cannot be separated from the performance of the coach who directs the players to be able to give their game to the maximum and also the contribution of other players to help the players top can show perfect playing skills.
Player balance is really needed by a football team to be the strongest and win every game there is after all what is it for having one or two top players but other players cannot follow or keep up with the games of the top players.

From here it is true if you say that players are the main key to success in a competitive team it's just that as much as possible don't rely too much on top players but also maximize other players to be able to give the best for team.
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The answer to your question is as simple as a YES, Key players in the sports industry does affect the odd bookies place on a team compared to another team with no key player, For example, when Messi or Ronaldo will be playing alongside other players as team in a match, it is already evident that the chances of such team winning that match is very high due to the presence of Messi, or Ronaldo, so, we dont expect bookies to place a high odds on such team since its expected that majority of the bets coming in will be going towards that team, so what i think bookies do or will do is to make the odds of that team not so attractive to bettors, and make the odds of the opposite or counterparty team more attractive to bettors, so as to discourage one sided bets.
Odds are calculated based on a number of factors and players' ability and standing is some of the major factor to consider when sport bets want to calculate their odds, and Clubs with top players are giving lower odds since their chances 0f winning the match is high compared to the chances of team with weak players.

Just as saying does club standing affect the odds, the answer to this also is yes, what is mostly used to allocate odds to clubs is the ability of the team to win and players are one of the agents of match-winning to clubs.
Yeah , exactly the point I was trying to make in my comment above, so , it can be simply said that, the higher the chances of a club winning a match, the lower the odds bookies allocate to such club, and the more the club is receiving bets from bettors, the lower the odds is dropping, and the higher the odds of the other club with lower chances of winning the match increases ..

But again , how the bookie loses is if at the end of the match, the club which was expected to loss the match end up winning, and they have to pay gamblers who bet on that club high amount of money due to the high odds, though I still won't consider this a total loss since they get to make the money back from bets received from the losing side/club .
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The answer to your question is as simple as a YES, Key players in the sports industry does affect the odd bookies place on a team compared to another team with no key player, For example, when Messi or Ronaldo will be playing alongside other players as team in a match, it is already evident that the chances of such team winning that match is very high due to the presence of Messi, or Ronaldo, so, we dont expect bookies to place a high odds on such team since its expected that majority of the bets coming in will be going towards that team, so what i think bookies do or will do is to make the odds of that team not so attractive to bettors, and make the odds of the opposite or counterparty team more attractive to bettors, so as to discourage one sided bets.
Odds are calculated based on a number of factors and players' ability and standing is some of the major factor to consider when sport bets want to calculate their odds, and Clubs with top players are giving lower odds since their chances 0f winning the match is high compared to the chances of team with weak players.

Just as saying does club standing affect the odds, the answer to this also is yes, what is mostly used to allocate odds to clubs is the ability of the team to win and players are one of the agents of match-winning to clubs.
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The answer to your question is as simple as a YES, Key players in the sports industry does affect the odd bookies place on a team compared to another team with no key player, For example, when Messi or Ronaldo will be playing alongside other players as team in a match, it is already evident that the chances of such team winning that match is very high due to the presence of Messi, or Ronaldo, so, we dont expect bookies to place a high odds on such team since its expected that majority of the bets coming in will be going towards that team, so what i think bookies do or will do is to make the odds of that team not so attractive to bettors, and make the odds of the opposite or counterparty team more attractive to bettors, so as to discourage one sided bets.
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For a team that has star players it is kind of a good strategy to implement. Star players serve as bait so that opposing players focus on star players and other players can freely arrange strategies to attack. In fact, star players on a team will have a good effect on a bet, but also look at the condition of all the players, what strategies are used. It's useless to have star players if you don't have the right strategy.
These star players can also break the opponent's focus, so they will be confused about who they should guard when playing on the field. They might lose control because having a star player could make the coach's strategy fall apart, and that would be an opportunity for his team to counterattack quickly. The coach must have prepared the right strategy to beat the opposing team so that his team can win and advance to the next round. The presence of star players can increase the enthusiasm of other players so that the match will become even more interesting.
What is clear is that star players on the field will be a very important factor in football and can cause problems for the opposing team. Apart from that, if a team has a very good star player, the opposing team will be reluctant and very careful in playing.
And star players can affect the opponent's mentality if the coach plays them at the right time and has a good strategy, so in my opinion star players greatly influence the final outcome of the match. And what you have to remember is that even if star players don't score goals, star players will be able to provide good assists or be part of the strategy.
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Star players have the impact over the odds as well as on the performance of the team. Just think of the Saudi Arabia Pro League teams, once after the deal of Al-Nassr team with Ronaldo the team odds have varied. The strategy varies based on the presence of star players, so will be the odds. When a star player is in a match, he'll be in focus much compared to the rest of the players. This means the star player's contribution is really valuable to the team and much expected one.
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For a team that has star players it is kind of a good strategy to implement. Star players serve as bait so that opposing players focus on star players and other players can freely arrange strategies to attack. In fact, star players on a team will have a good effect on a bet, but also look at the condition of all the players, what strategies are used. It's useless to have star players if you don't have the right strategy.
These star players can also break the opponent's focus, so they will be confused about who they should guard when playing on the field. They might lose control because having a star player could make the coach's strategy fall apart, and that would be an opportunity for his team to counterattack quickly. The coach must have prepared the right strategy to beat the opposing team so that his team can win and advance to the next round. The presence of star players can increase the enthusiasm of other players so that the match will become even more interesting.
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.
Star players will always be star players and can influence opportunities, and within a team, having star players will increase the players' self-confidence. They can play better because their performance has also increased with the presence of star players. This will affect the chances of the match against the opponent, so the team's chances of winning will be greater. This is a psychological game against the opposing team because they will think that the team with star players will perform better. Usually, the opposing team will pressure this star player so he can't move as agile as usual, and the coach is aware of this. But that doesn't affect the other players because they will help the star player.

For a team that has star players it is kind of a good strategy to implement. Star players serve as bait so that opposing players focus on star players and other players can freely arrange strategies to attack. In fact, star players on a team will have a good effect on a bet, but also look at the condition of all the players, what strategies are used. It's useless to have star players if you don't have the right strategy.
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Correct. Probably OP are describing the players the outstanding on diffent team that has no reliable teammates to assist him since ni matter how good star players is, He can’t carry a heavy team to success just like Lebron when he first join the Cavaliers. He made the team compete on the Finals but lose completely in the end since that’s the limit of his skills against full strong team.

This is why star players is very valuable on a game since they are the one who leads the match but also there’s some limitations like the one I pointed out.
Yes, star players have their limitations, because they are easily targeted on the the field by the opponent team and neutralized to prevent them from carrying the team on his back. That is the most efficient strategy a team can adopt against a rival which fully relies on a star player towards the victory. We have already seen it in several teams, including the national ones: Argentina with Messi and Brazil with Neymar.

Anyway, I have no doubts that even when the team has only one star player, he will boost the odds for that team on sportsbooks, because despite the limitations he is still a key player who can surprise the rivals with his speed, creativity, stealth and leadership.
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Star player wouldn’t be called star player if their stats doesn’t prove their title. It’s not a placebo effect but rather a team can perform well if they knew someone reliable that will carry them to win since they will only need to support the star player to win.

In terms of odds, star player highly affect the odds since this player is typically dictate the tempo of the game and the team can’t replace the player which the gameplay revolves on him.

It’s true the start player should keep his record so that his name was in the hearts of fan.After recruiting Ronaldo,he had made an hattrick goal at his old age as compared to the new player in the recent Saudi Arabia League.He also assist two goals and help their club to make some good win.This is the key factor of the Star players,they will help in the hard match to get drain to the down.Either by scoring the huge goal or assist into the goal.The star player was the key player of the game,So the full game is depend on him.He should take responsibility on the hard game and make some unique changes from the drain.

Correct. Probably OP are describing the players the outstanding on diffent team that has no reliable teammates to assist him since ni matter how good star players is, He can’t carry a heavy team to success just like Lebron when he first join the Cavaliers. He made the team compete on the Finals but lose completely in the end since that’s the limit of his skills against full strong team.

This is why star players is very valuable on a game since they are the one who leads the match but also there’s some limitations like the one I pointed out.
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.
Star players will always be star players and can influence opportunities, and within a team, having star players will increase the players' self-confidence. They can play better because their performance has also increased with the presence of star players. This will affect the chances of the match against the opponent, so the team's chances of winning will be greater. This is a psychological game against the opposing team because they will think that the team with star players will perform better. Usually, the opposing team will pressure this star player so he can't move as agile as usual, and the coach is aware of this. But that doesn't affect the other players because they will help the star player.
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Star player wouldn’t be called star player if their stats doesn’t prove their title. It’s not a placebo effect but rather a team can perform well if they knew someone reliable that will carry them to win since they will only need to support the star player to win.

In terms of odds, star player highly affect the odds since this player is typically dictate the tempo of the game and the team can’t replace the player which the gameplay revolves on him.

It’s true the start player should keep his record so that his name was in the hearts of fan.After recruiting Ronaldo,he had made an hattrick goal at his old age as compared to the new player in the recent Saudi Arabia League.He also assist two goals and help their club to make some good win.This is the key factor of the Star players,they will help in the hard match to get drain to the down.Either by scoring the huge goal or assist into the goal.The star player was the key player of the game,So the full game is depend on him.He should take responsibility on the hard game and make some unique changes from the drain.
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I would say that a star players involvement might not greatly affect some games but others it would affect it wildly.  As an outlier look at MLS league Miami before Messi joined and after.  They were one of the worst teams and then a top team with Messi.  I would definitely think the odds would swing wildly different if he did or did not plan on playing in a game, at least if it was known.  

This is a good example on how star players can affect the club and in the case of MLS, Messi's presense has become a fortune for them making them top the league and also it creates huge spectators and fans during their games which means financially, they generate more money from the sale of tickets unlike before.

Now the club reputation has increased after Messi help them lift the league which is the first trophy they have won. Do you know that the presence of messi.
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No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Star player wouldn’t be called star player if their stats doesn’t prove their title. It’s not a placebo effect but rather a team can perform well if they knew someone reliable that will carry them to win since they will only need to support the star player to win.

In terms of odds, star player highly affect the odds since this player is typically dictate the tempo of the game and the team can’t replace the player which the gameplay revolves on him.
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Of course star players has a big impact to the outcome and the result of the game. Even them existing in the game would greatly affects anyone's gameplay in the field in any other sports game. I just remembered the game of FIBA in the Philippines where Jordan Clarkson is being part of the team, it boosts the team knowing the fact that they have JC as part of their lineup. It's just having also a bad coach and how they handle the situation of the game is really poor so I still guess that even having a good players but if they handle the rotation poorly it will have a negative impact. Cause when JC got fouled out the team falls for the last quarter drastically it's like losing the core of the team. Star players could be consider as a threat by their opponent by just existing or their team mates as a core.
Yet, would you argue, perhaps, that a game, in its essence, is a  between talent and strategy? Speaking of Jordan Clarkson and the FIBA game in the Philippines; yes, having JC certainly would've put some in their sails. But let's not forget the betting odds at play. If you've ever placed a bet, you'd know that team dynamics, not just star power, influence the outcomes! And what's with the coaching staff, eh? Poor rotations are a gambler's nightmare. Why would a coach ever let JC be in a position to foul out? Do they not recognize the palpable drop in the odds when a star player is sidelined?
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