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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 22, 2023, 03:44:46 PM

I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include:
*playing part of a match,
*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.

No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

In my opinion I think star players have a role to play in a team and a very needed in some key matches and most times without their involvement could affect the outcome of the match and also a bettors game, for instance like you stated Ronaldo and Messi are very influential in their current teams and their performance have led to both teams success and when they're not included in some certain matches their teams performance
Seems poor than when being involved.
Now I think this applies mostly to clubs that build their squad around one player, for instance Debruyne is one of Mancity's star player if not their best but since he's our due to injury his team still win matches, because even though he's very important in the squad they don't really depend on him to be successful, cause the team is not built around him or too dependent on his ability.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 22, 2023, 03:44:46 PM

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The answer is very varied, depending on how strong a team is. but usually, the star players have a big influence on the betting odds. it's just that usually betting odds are available long before the match is held, but the situation will change depending on how the team's overall condition is. In soccer, a team can have several star players. if one of them is absent, it can affect the odds, maybe not. and all that, depending on the team that will be their opponent later. the point is, we will always refer to the odds that the bookies provide. if there is something strange, it is likely that several players were absent from the match. it could also, star players injured. or maybe, the match doesn't affect any judgment like a friendly match for example.

Well, as I said at the beginning, the answers will vary widely. considering what you asked, as I said. it all depends on a team that will compete. also, how much the star player has contributed. The point is, we can't generalize. therefore if you are interested in sports betting, you will really need knowledge, insight, experience, and several other methods, if you are interested and want to bet on sports betting.

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Isnt this a cute way to oversimplify how important star players are? You suppose "playing part of a game" or "being replaced"? Sports are not all or nothing. Its not checkers. Seeing a star player alone impacts the game mentally and strategically.

Stories, narratives, and powerful people move us. Sports and people are drawn to these folks. Messi and Ronaldo arent just big names or flashy brands; they're the best examples of how humans have changed over time. They strain their physical and mental limitations on the pitch.

Now, about the chance of winning a bet: of course they do! Bookies are smart. The odds consider a player's name, recent performance, and strategy impact. Its stupid to disagree. In order to calculate the probabilities of these "four levels of contribution," you should first understand how they are linked rather than arranging them in boxes like a child's puzzle.

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Quote from: Iroh on August 23, 2023, 09:59:23 AM

I don't think just one individual player, no matter how much of a star he may seem to be influences much. Football is a team effort irrespective of the contribution of one or two players who may seemingly perform and play better. They've been multiple instances where not so strong teams having the better chances of winning when going up against stronger teams having the best players.
While a superb player could perhaps influence the odds a little, there are several factors that would contribute to the odds of a game.

Of course team play is the most important thing in football, but you can't deny if there are many people favoring his football player than his favorite team. It mean the football player give a lot influence, Ronaldo is the example. He join Al Nassr and if he play, most of the match Al Nassr become the favorite. Same like other teams that have an European player.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 22, 2023, 03:44:46 PM

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Yes star players can affect the odds especially with some important players in the team absent the bookies will increase the odds.
Star players are important for a team they can be more solid because there are several star players in it of course the bookies will consider in every odds offered, so for me star players can change my bet or yours.

Before making a bet I always check their starting line up.
For me this is important for bettors because looking at some of the players including if one star player is injured sometimes the odds have a big effect.

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I don't think just one individual player, no matter how much of a star he may seem to be influences much. Football is a team effort irrespective of the contribution of one or two players who may seemingly perform and play better. They've been multiple instances where not so strong teams having the better chances of winning when going up against stronger teams having the best players.
While a superb player could perhaps influence the odds a little, there are several factors that would contribute to the odds of a game.

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star players greatly affect the team victory and indirectly if the team wins our bet will also win and we will take the example of football. like now Napoli still has Osimhen who always scores or can always look for gaps to score and also PSG who at that time had a heated problem with his star player Mbappe and had used Mbappe only as a reserve player but finally used it as the main player and finally Mbappe was able giving the score to PSG and another example of Real Madrid having lost a star player like Benzema and currently Real Madrid form has dropped slightly.

indeed all of this still depends on luck because sometimes the situation on the field can change not according to what we predict and the opposing team makes a comeback. but at least this star player provides a bigger chance of winning.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 22, 2023, 03:44:46 PM

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Bookies are still managed by humans and yes that will affect the odds if a star player is around or not, it definitely will. Even if it will be managed by an AI I think that will still have an effect if AI will depends on the statistics. I think there are still levels you haven't list there and there are too many factors to consider aside from having or not the star player/s.

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Definitely star players are affecting the odds, you can check on the team where there's a star player. When the star player is playing, the odds tend to be heavy favorite, when he's not playing, the team is still favorite, but it's not as low as when the star player is included.

I think it's make sense since star player has a good history, even he's already old and not in prime anymore.

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People would easily recognize a star player more than a team, so yes, it would affect the odds. For example, in the NBA, if the Nuggets are the best team and Jokic is their star player, if he is not going to play, that will result in a significant odds adjustment. So, sometimes it's wise to not bet early because there are times when star players are announced as out just minutes before the game.

Furthermore, the reality in sports betting is that when a team is very popular, it's likely to be overvalued by the oddsmakers. This is the reason why gamblers often lose in the long run if they blindly bet on the popular teams.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 23, 2023, 08:12:44 AM

Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 22, 2023, 03:44:46 PM

No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

It is undeniable that star players affect the performance of their teams. The impact of the player will be seen when he is injured or sick and not playing. Recently we have seen Manchester City struggle due to the injury of Kevin De Bruyne. And when they are available they can perform wonders.

This is quite a perfect example as answer to the question of the OP, for those that were following up that games weeks before the start of this EPL season we can attest that the difference in the odd of Manchester City against Newcastle united before the start of the season wasn't the same odd that City had when the news about kelvin Debryune not been able to fixture in that match due to injury. The initial odds that was given to City increased which was very rare compared to other times that have played with Newcastle with kelvin Debryune available in the game.

The importance of Kelvin Debryune as a star player in the midfield for City was what makes the difference. The odd makes understood that those chances of long passes and crosses known to be made by Debryune would be missed within the midfield and City's midfield won't be a threat to Newcastle therefore giving Newcastle a substantial reason to want to advance forward without fear. So Yes, a Star player in a team does affect the odd size of a match

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 22, 2023, 03:44:46 PM

No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

It is undeniable that star players affect the performance of their teams. The impact of the player will be seen when he is injured or sick and not playing. Recently we have seen Manchester City struggle due to the injury of Kevin De Bruyne. And when they are available they can perform wonders.

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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The odds given to a team depend on their past performance and sometimes the history of both teams. The presence of a top-class player on a team can affect the odds especially when the player is in great form. Great players like Neymar might not affect the odds because he is not in top form to affect the outcome of games.

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Everything matters when it comes to the betting odds. I always consider the betting odds as the best when it comes to results assessments unlike mainstream media and other personalities talking about everything yet they are not putting their money where their mouth is.

Star players have the biggest effects on the betting odds. Just imagine Lionel Messi not playing for Argentina in the World Cup's final game? Or let's say Kylian Mbappé didn't play in the finals. Star players are being valued and assessed regularly so their effects level on the betting odds varies from time to time. A star player might be playing but if he is reported to have an injury then chances are the odds favoring his team will be lessened depending on how serious the injury is.

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Many factors will be considered by bookmakers when determining the odds for a team in a match to be carried out, and the factor of the team's star player might be considered because the presence of the star player also has an influence on the team and can also affect the outcome of the match later.
An example of what Inter Miami is currently experiencing, despite their very poor performance in the previous match but the presence of one of the star players who greatly influenced the team's performance will affect the odds they will receive, tomorrow they will play in the semifinals of the us open cup and they will be the favorite in the semifinal match would be impossible to become a favorite if Lionel Messi wasn't there, because he is one of the keys to the club's game development.

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Star players have a psychological influence on team play so that team play might be better if there are star players. But if a star player is sent off due to injury or punishment, it could affect the team's psychology and reduce the team's performance. But if the team is not affected by the presence or absence of star players, it will be a surprise for the opposing team because they think the team will not be able to give their best if there are no star players.

And as for the stakes, it may change and affect it in the middle of the match. But bettors will usually look at other things and not just see if there are star players who will play or if only the core players will compete. And bettors will also see how the team's journey from the previous match was to see how big the chances of winning are.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 22, 2023, 03:44:46 PM

*playing part of a match,
*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.
My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Star players may affect the odds of their clubs but it's a subject that is relative, all the playing conditions you stated above could impact or maintain the odds and it's obvious in betting when players are being substituted during the match because it can change the whole narrative. Let me just summarise it in five scenarios in relation to yours.

1. The capability of the whole team is important, if the team is bad, I don't think there is a huge impact a start player would make in that match.
2. The time the star player start playing matters, and this could only impact the odds if such is substituted when there is much time to play, not at the injury time.
3. The track record of the star player in such moments (full or part-time). If the player is such that didn't deliver upon substitution, I don't think it can impact the odd.
4. If a star player is substituted out, it's obvious that their team's odds could reduce or increase, it depends on the person such is substituted for, especially when the former didn't perform as expected.
5. Finally, even if the star player would play in full, odds must have been rated with the team's capacity combined as no single tree could make a forest.

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The answer is yes, because they (star players) always make a good impression on people, leading them to believe that the team that has the best players will be able to win the match. For example, if team A and team B have a match in two days time and perhaps all the players for team A are not yet known, the odd could be small for team A compared to the opposite team, but if, by chance, team A finally adds a star player to the club for full time or even half time, the odd for team A will be increased by the bookies because they know that many gamblers are going to stake on team A believing that with Mesi in that match, the team A would win.

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A star player is already a plus. They wouldn't be imported to a team if they wouldn't be able to help. I think the bookmakers will consider how good the star player is against the other when they set the odds up. Whether Messi or Ronaldo is incorporated into a team, they will excel especially if they complement the talents of the rest of the team.

The tournaments in our regional sports also invite star players from our national sports players, they kinda boost the confidence of the local players.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 22, 2023, 03:44:46 PM

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Star players makes hugh impact on their teams, there are numerous instances of illustration of these facts. In the scenario of Leo Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in their new clubs, they have both achieved alot from football and known to be record breakers. Leo Messi presence in Argentina squad made them lift the 2022 Qater world cup and also winning the first league trophy with Inter Miami, anything he touches excel in football, the most decorated player in football history, popularly known as the undisputed GOAT with no match. With these, I'm confident that big players affect their various clubs.

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Of course they affect the result of a game. Star players can win the game when they are motivated enough but sometimes they don’t perform well becsuse they get angry at something and then it costs them the game… So if a team has star player(s) then it is the coach’s responsibility to keep these players happy. Maybe give them some privileges but overdoing it will also create a lot of problems so it needs to be fine tuned. Look at C. Ronaldo, he is still winning cups for his team. It means he is happy.

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