Topic: Do star players affect the odds of a match bet? - page 8. (Read 859 times)
Of course they affect the result of a game. Star players can win the game when they are motivated enough but sometimes they don’t perform well becsuse they get angry at something and then it costs them the game… So if a team has star player(s) then it is the coach’s responsibility to keep these players happy. Maybe give them some privileges but overdoing it will also create a lot of problems so it needs to be fine tuned. Look at C. Ronaldo, he is still winning cups for his team. It means he is happy.
I would say that a star players involvement might not greatly affect some games but others it would affect it wildly. As an outlier look at MLS league Miami before Messi joined and after. They were one of the worst teams and then a top team with Messi. I would definitely think the odds would swing wildly different if he did or did not plan on playing in a game, at least if it was known.
Spot on. Star players affect how much odds bookmakers place on a club...but...there is a big but this is only in small teams and upcoming leagues. Messi in Miami, Christano Ronaldo in Al Nassr, Neymar in Al Hilal. These are just some typical examples. Aside these if these star players had moved to big clubs in well established leauges Like the Preimer League, Italian Serie A, we would notice no major effect on the odds placed by the bookies. 
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*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.
My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
Absolutely big YES! It's obviously very evident when bookies make their odds. 1 superstar is enough to make a significant impact with the odds offered by the bookies. So that purely depends on the intensity of the game, like in the NBA, during a regular season players like Jokic, LeBron, Giannis, Curry, and other superstars will not gonna play the whole 48 mins, so when they miss game, the odds may not make a huge difference compared in the playoffs where most of these superstars are playing at 40+ mins average per game.
Superstar players can make a huge impact when his in the court and can boost his teammates morale, plus it might also intimidate the opposing's team. That's just a simple fact about superstars significantly affecting the odds whether or not he plays.
Star players certainly have above average playing skills and even star players are always the core players for a club, not only in football but for other types of sports in groups or containing several players.
So it is only natural that a club that has several star players can perform very well and always has a great chance to win.
Usually the coach has his own strategy for playing these star players such as using them fully from the beginning to the end of the match and there are also those who play when they are in the middle of time to be able to catch up or add advantages.
It's just that not all clubs have top star players because they have expensive salaries and make it difficult for middle to lower clubs to have the opportunity to have star players.
So it is only natural that a club that has several star players can perform very well and always has a great chance to win.
Usually the coach has his own strategy for playing these star players such as using them fully from the beginning to the end of the match and there are also those who play when they are in the middle of time to be able to catch up or add advantages.
It's just that not all clubs have top star players because they have expensive salaries and make it difficult for middle to lower clubs to have the opportunity to have star players.
In very high level leagues like UEFA Champions League or just English Premier League or Spanish La Liga, star players only "individually" affect games sometimes. In general their teams are already having top class squads. Also their opponents very likely don't have very weak squads. I think those are only considered within a bit lower quality leagues. Or considered against weak teams of La Liga vs Barcelona for example.
Of course, it does. These star players are considered star players for a reason. Their presence is a big deal, not just because of what they can do to their teammates' morale, confidence, and performance but mainly because of what they can do to the game. So, betting odds would definitely be affected.
You take Lionel Messi from Inter Miami and the betting odds would definitely increase. You take Jokic from the Nuggets and you're taking away a much more solid play which will certainly reflect on the odds.
You take Lionel Messi from Inter Miami and the betting odds would definitely increase. You take Jokic from the Nuggets and you're taking away a much more solid play which will certainly reflect on the odds.
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
The star player doesn't really affect the odds of bet. In fact, the bookies were always seeing it in a squad and not only from the personality, as football was a game of eleven players. The star player may increase the level of confidence from bookies in making club to have lower odds as it has been favorable to win the game. The club's odds are in a state of constant fluctuation based on their field performance. If you were watching the game and the stats of game is a thing that was affecting the changing of odds. The star player may be contributing a lot to the club but it will not change the fact that if odds determine from the overall performance by the club.
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*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.
These factors are usually for live betting so it's not important for people who made bets early. It would more likely affect the odds depending on the time of the substitution and the score. A good lead and leaving the game with only a little time left isn't going to change the odds while a close game with lots of time to play will have an opposite effect. *being substituted out and
*being substituted in.
In most cases, if the star players can play full time, I believe it really bring impacts on the match. The star players boost the motivation of the whole squad, so they can play with their best form. It also becomes a challenge for the opposite team because some players will be ordered to restrict/limit the star players' movement. So, it can be the advantage for the team who has the star players, there will be many open spaces for attacks. This actually improves the chance to win. Moreover, the star players can make a difference in the match because they know well how to score or deliver assists.
However, it doesn't always applies as expected. We must see in some matches, the star players can't contribute anything. For example Ronaldo. Although Ronaldo can lead Al Nassr to win Saudi club champions cup but he failed to give Al Nassr winning in some SPL matches. That's the fact that star players don't always bring positive impacts.
However, it doesn't always applies as expected. We must see in some matches, the star players can't contribute anything. For example Ronaldo. Although Ronaldo can lead Al Nassr to win Saudi club champions cup but he failed to give Al Nassr winning in some SPL matches. That's the fact that star players don't always bring positive impacts.
if nothing else, they can bring a good number of audience to the match. so it is still a win-win situation, earning more as compared to a seemingly regular game. but we can't discard the fact that it will really give a very good motivation to the team itself. maybe, putting their best foot forward as they are inspired to do best. so if you are betting on this game, need to carefully select your odds here.
My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
In terms of the game, the result obviously depends very little on a single player, no matter how "idolized" his team is, so I believe in the "placebo effect" that you mentioned.
However, we know that the existence or not of these players on the field in a certain way end up influencing the betting probability a lot, even though the result does not change much technically, people believe that this player in some way always has a great importance for the match. team. In this sense, I think bookmakers also take this into account and adjust the ODDS more or less according to these movements.
My opinion then: Technically, the stars don't make much difference, but when we talk about betting then this has a relevant impact.
In most cases, if the star players can play full time, I believe it really bring impacts on the match. The star players boost the motivation of the whole squad, so they can play with their best form. It also becomes a challenge for the opposite team because some players will be ordered to restrict/limit the star players' movement. So, it can be the advantage for the team who has the star players, there will be many open spaces for attacks. This actually improves the chance to win. Moreover, the star players can make a difference in the match because they know well how to score or deliver assists.
However, it doesn't always applies as expected. We must see in some matches, the star players can't contribute anything. For example Ronaldo. Although Ronaldo can lead Al Nassr to win Saudi club champions cup but he failed to give Al Nassr winning in some SPL matches. That's the fact that star players don't always bring positive impacts.
So, if we want to place a bet for a team which has star players, we must learn first how the current performance of the star players.
However, it doesn't always applies as expected. We must see in some matches, the star players can't contribute anything. For example Ronaldo. Although Ronaldo can lead Al Nassr to win Saudi club champions cup but he failed to give Al Nassr winning in some SPL matches. That's the fact that star players don't always bring positive impacts.
So, if we want to place a bet for a team which has star players, we must learn first how the current performance of the star players.
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I guess it's a matter of compatibility? I mean some star players wouldn't increase much in terms of strength if the core of the team was already established in the first place, heck they might become weaker in the short term in fact.In comparison, adding a good player on a relatively bad team could help build up a foundation, specifically around that star player. While this leads to the the limiting themselves, it's faster in comparison to trying to build the entire team up to match the star player.
Okay I ranted a bit off topic, to answer, yes. There might be varying changes, but yes they do affect the odds.
Yes, let's say Team A has a star player while Team B doesn't. The bookies are odd and will definitely be in favor of Team A who's got a star player.
That's why it's important to look at the news before the matches happen for the sports that you're betting on. But don't get blinded by these odds because sometimes they're full of surprises when it comes to the actual matches. It's more of speculations before the games and that's why teams that have star players, don't expect them to show that much of odds.
That's why it's important to look at the news before the matches happen for the sports that you're betting on. But don't get blinded by these odds because sometimes they're full of surprises when it comes to the actual matches. It's more of speculations before the games and that's why teams that have star players, don't expect them to show that much of odds.
odds are calculated sometimes weeks/months in advance for some games. In any case you can usually bet on a match within a week of it happening. What influences the odds are the events leading up to a game. Players injured, coach fired, or someone sick and likely will not play. All of these things will change the odds up or down, having a star player or whatnot is already calculated like I said though.
Yes, they do. Without any doubt.
Not playing or injure could greatly change the odds.
Sudden injury half of the game could also change the odds but it will depend on the score and how much time is left.
Load management may also affect the odds if the player suddenly feels like he had enough playtime and will just let his teammates finish the game.
Star players gave a plus/minus and we should always check those out. If a star can greatly affect the game on both ends of the floor then his absence will also change the spreads and the winning chance of his team.
Not playing or injure could greatly change the odds.
Sudden injury half of the game could also change the odds but it will depend on the score and how much time is left.
Load management may also affect the odds if the player suddenly feels like he had enough playtime and will just let his teammates finish the game.
Star players gave a plus/minus and we should always check those out. If a star can greatly affect the game on both ends of the floor then his absence will also change the spreads and the winning chance of his team.
Star players contribute to 70-80% of match winnings in a particular team especially when the player is not injured and when the player is in good form. Taking Real Madrid as an example, the performance of Real Madrid dropped automatically when Benzema was injured last season because he was always the star man in every of their match irrespective of the fact that there are so many good players there but he's absence was felt when Madrid was dropping point in every match. For a star player to play from the bench is really not possible unless they player is affected by fatigue or the coach decided to play him from the bench because he just came back from an injury but then his presence will still be felt on the pitch whenever he's introduced because he is a prolific player and a game changer for his club.
Not every game have this, in very specific games like basketball, football we can experience the difference in odds for a team when a star player is added to the squad as well as when he isn't in the squad. This is common, because the team winning is much connected with the players, and the predictions will also be based on them. Always they carry the expectation of the audience. Whether it gets fulfilled or not is the end result.
Yes but more with specific players. I saw this with previous NBA League in particular with championship. I was looking for parlays and I find it hard to get a decent odd with Nikola Jokic and Murray on sepecific stats 'coz they're both expected to perform well by other bettors, also with other players such as Gordon. Odds are simply the reflection of how majority of bettors percieve a player or fighter within a specific match. So basically, star players are more popular than bench players which makes sense for audiences to expect more from them to perform well within a game. You'd be able to bet under their names for a better outcome but never expect high returns all the time.
It does, and it depends on who the star player is with and who they are against. An example I can think of is GSW vs Cavs championship games. During games when the whole Cavs team is present, they are at even odds against GSW. But in games when one key person is missing from the team (Kevin Love), the odds shift towards GSW even with Lebron and Kyrie on board. While star players have the capability to carry a team on their backs, it isn't enough especially on a team-based game.
There is a significant effect but it still depends on the sport because I remember betting on the NBA regular season last time and teams that didn't have their star player still played well and won the games they should've lost.
Recently in esports, there was a team who are always one of the big favorites in their league, and suddenly, they became mediocre, losing most of their series (from 6-2 to 9-9) after their star player injured his wrist. Thankfully, he recovered in time and got to play during the playoffs to push the team back to their top form.
Recently in esports, there was a team who are always one of the big favorites in their league, and suddenly, they became mediocre, losing most of their series (from 6-2 to 9-9) after their star player injured his wrist. Thankfully, he recovered in time and got to play during the playoffs to push the team back to their top form.
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