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We enter this arena by choice, not coercion. It's our choice. The blame game? There's no point in doing it. We gamble, pay the price. Just that simple. Thinking about it, gambling is a combination of excitement and danger. This is a personal choice. Losses are common, therefore blaming others is unethical and misguided. We gamble and own results.

Some people make it look like they were forced to gamble, but I know that you can’t be forced to do what you don’t want to do, we all have the right to choose and reject any offer, so if you decide to start gambling, then don’t blame anyone for that, you should blame yourself for that, because when you were introduced to gambling, you should have just said no and stayed away from it. If a friend asks you to place a particular bet, you have the right to say no, or you can just do your analysis first before placing the bet. If there is any correction that you will be making, then make it before placing the bet. In this life, don’t blame anyone for your mistake, you have to hold yourself responsible.

It's you to decide even there are someone who are trying to push you, but if you don't want to do things then they can't do anything about it, like what you just said, there's no one to be blame when you involve yourself into gambling, it's your money that you use and it's your decision to pick or to play the game that you love playing with, if you lose just take that experienced and never to point finger to someone to mkae excuses with the amount that you lose from your gambling. No one can bring you to gambling and manipulate you, it's your own decision to make so take full ownership of the responsibilities.
There are really some people who will point fingers just to avoid being responsible for what they have done. Those people always try to avoid taking responsibility for their actions by blaming other people. However, it's important to recognize that every action we take is ultimately our own choice. Our decisions are not determined by the people or circumstances around us.
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It happens because I have sometimes at the first year of my tertiary education, i spent and lost my school fees on the gambling and I came back home and falsefully explained to my parents that some anonymous criminals blocked us on the way to school and robbed all the passengers in the bus but though their intentions was to kidnap us all but due to the fact that they had already realized an appreciatable amount of valuables from everyone, they were able to let us go.

This thread reminded me of the past but I must admit that I was so irresponsible to myself and uncontrolable to my emotions at a depression period of time.
Sometimes you just have to formulate some sorts of lies if alternative could come in other to recover your losts or with the sense that you just want set yourself free from what people may say of you pertaining an intentional incidents that maybe laughable or bringing you a shame after you must have taunted yourself by your deeds .
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We enter this arena by choice, not coercion. It's our choice. The blame game? There's no point in doing it. We gamble, pay the price. Just that simple. Thinking about it, gambling is a combination of excitement and danger. This is a personal choice. Losses are common, therefore blaming others is unethical and misguided. We gamble and own results.

Some people make it look like they were forced to gamble, but I know that you can’t be forced to do what you don’t want to do, we all have the right to choose and reject any offer, so if you decide to start gambling, then don’t blame anyone for that, you should blame yourself for that, because when you were introduced to gambling, you should have just said no and stayed away from it. If a friend asks you to place a particular bet, you have the right to say no, or you can just do your analysis first before placing the bet. If there is any correction that you will be making, then make it before placing the bet. In this life, don’t blame anyone for your mistake, you have to hold yourself responsible.

It's you to decide even there are someone who are trying to push you, but if you don't want to do things then they can't do anything about it, like what you just said, there's no one to be blame when you involve yourself into gambling, it's your money that you use and it's your decision to pick or to play the game that you love playing with, if you lose just take that experienced and never to point finger to someone to mkae excuses with the amount that you lose from your gambling. No one can bring you to gambling and manipulate you, it's your own decision to make so take full ownership of the responsibilities.
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It is really he easiest way to ease out the pain eh? You would really be blaming out someone on the mistakes that you have done on which you are really just that making yourself that look laughable.
It would really be just that normal for people to have that kind of behavior. There are ones who do really love to blame and there are ones who just simply walk out and move on and call it a day
on which i could say that this is much more prefer rather than on blaming someone on the actions you had made just because they did make out some recommendations.
You are that responsible on the actions that you had made, it is really just not that right that you would really be making yourself that look like a food on blaming out someone with your losses. lol

Often blaming other people every time you lose, this is what causes frequent feuds between gamblers. Someone who is not patient enough and is unable to accept the defeat they have experienced, they always look for an outlet so that their emotions can be vented, such as scolding and blaming other people. Isn't that stupid... when he gets a big win he immediately walks away from the people around him, while when he loses he blames other people...

So before we gamble, we must have a strong mentality, because losing in gambling is a certainty, while winning is only a possibility.
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We enter this arena by choice, not coercion. It's our choice. The blame game? There's no point in doing it. We gamble, pay the price. Just that simple. Thinking about it, gambling is a combination of excitement and danger. This is a personal choice. Losses are common, therefore blaming others is unethical and misguided. We gamble and own results.

Some people make it look like they were forced to gamble, but I know that you can’t be forced to do what you don’t want to do, we all have the right to choose and reject any offer, so if you decide to start gambling, then don’t blame anyone for that, you should blame yourself for that, because when you were introduced to gambling, you should have just said no and stayed away from it. If a friend asks you to place a particular bet, you have the right to say no, or you can just do your analysis first before placing the bet. If there is any correction that you will be making, then make it before placing the bet. In this life, don’t blame anyone for your mistake, you have to hold yourself responsible.
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well, this is what I mean by a negative mindset like this which causes people to often lose and often lose large amounts of money which encourages their emotions to increase and cannot be controlled after which they often blame other people.
what's worse is that there is an emotional and almost depressed gambler who often loses because he always wants revenge for gambling, wants to get his money back, this person comes to the casino center and gets angry with the casino staff and says give him his money back. then he was kicked out of there after that he went home with regret and went to a friend who had asked him to gamble and blamed his friend and almost got into a fight but luckily another friend intervened.
after he got home he was angry with his wife and his wife was beaten until she had wounds on several parts of her face then his wife left him and now he is depressed and almost crazy.
this story is true because I know this person but not too close, just that he lives not too far from where I live.

and in conclusion, it is not recommended to consider gambling as a place to place hope, even though we gamble using money, it does not mean that the casino has to give the money back to the gambler because the gambling business will benefit the casino owner and this mindset can prevent us from the bad effects of blaming other people.
Experiencing losing money in gambling will make people emotional and want to recover their losses by continuing to gamble. Unfortunately, they don't think that this method can give them the opportunity to recover their losses because it will only increase the number of losses even more. Many gamblers have become emotional and depressed because they have lost so much that they have even gone bankrupt, so they can't do anything anymore. And that should be a lesson for other gamblers to start managing their gambling activities and try to reduce their money and time in gambling. They also don't need to blame other people around them because it is their own fault for thinking that gambling is a means of making money. If this is not immediately suppressed, they will only cause other problems that could become bigger than they thought and even disrupt their family relationships.

That is why we should not use gambling to make money and have too high hopes for winning. We can learn from other people's experiences to make us wiser in gambling so that we can enjoy gambling as entertainment only. Perhaps we have to change this wrong mindset by reflecting on our original goal in gambling to return the goal to its original goal.
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Maybe gamblers sometimes feel the feeling of blaming their friends. especially those who gamble or bet from friends' suggestions. and the results are not as expected.

If a friend make suggestion, they didn’t force you to follow their suggestion, you have the right not to gamble, so if you follow your friends suggestion and things didn’t go well as planed, then you should be responsible for your lose, and not to blame other’s, even if they force you to follow their prediction, if you don’t really want to follow it,  then you won’t. So whatever the outcome of your bet, always blame yourself and always learn from your mistake. If you don’t blame yourself and you always blame others, then you won’t be able to learn and correct yourself.

In my opinion, we should do self-introspection or correct ourselves about what has happened, if we lose a lot of money in gambling, it is on our own control, even if we follow the advice of friends, I think it is based on our own control as well. following the advice of our friend as you said. and those of us who gamble do it because of ourselves, not because of other people's coercion, because other people or even the casino does not have the element of coercion.
We are the ones who do it ourselves, all the losses that occur are because we do it ourselves, not other people, don't try to throw stones and hide your hands, it's better to admit and correct yourself, if you really want to gamble, please be able to accept the risks that will occur in gambling. including the loss of money which is called a loss, even though we are gambling with real money it is unethical to blame other people as compensation for the losses we get.
We enter this arena by choice, not coercion. It's our choice. The blame game? There's no point in doing it. We gamble, pay the price. Just that simple. Thinking about it, gambling is a combination of excitement and danger. This is a personal choice. Losses are common, therefore blaming others is unethical and misguided. We gamble and own results.

One must be self-aware in order to succeed in the gambling business. I believe we must acknowledge our actions and choices. This goes beyond money to understanding our motives and constraints. Let's gamble without risking reality. The stakes? Personal as well as financial. Keep it in mind.
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Story if my past. I used to play a lot multiplayer games where skill matters, but devices you use also play a tiny percent of your success. That time when I lost, I used to blame mouse that does bad clicking, lagging internet, opponents that cheat. With time I have learned, that only skill matter and there is no one to blame. So with time I have moved that rule to gambling. I have nobody to blame for my loss except myself and my luck.

It may not even have to be on wether we are playing a multiplier kind of game or not this time, when we gamble, we are hundred percent responsible for how we go about it as long as it belongs to us, we cannot share the right on winning with anyone as well as not blame anyone for our own consequences received from every decisions we made while gambling, we are gambling for our own self and not for other people to take glory or control of what we have risk our money on, even when thry contributed to it.
We are 100% responsible for our actions as an adult as long as we are not forced to do it, so it baffles me when some people do not take responsibility. Even if they do something and realise that it is bad, the next thing is to retrace their steps and stop complaining as complaints will never solve anything, only a change can. Come to think of it, you were introduced to a thing, but were you forced to agree to it? That is the way I see this and for anyone to have agreed to it means that they need to take responsibility.

Gambling is never such that should be agreed to without proper deliberation, after all, this is not what is free, it can take money from you, so agreeing to it means that you already know the risk and you are willing to take it. Even if you are being tricked into doing it, let's not say force now, on getting to know that this thing is not good for you whether for the fact that it is taking your time or wasting your money. The best thing for any reasonable and responsible person to do is to retrace their steps and end it there, not shifting the blame on what you were never forced or tricked to accept.
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Maybe gamblers sometimes feel the feeling of blaming their friends. especially those who gamble or bet from friends' suggestions. and the results are not as expected.

If a friend make suggestion, they didn’t force you to follow their suggestion, you have the right not to gamble, so if you follow your friends suggestion and things didn’t go well as planed, then you should be responsible for your lose, and not to blame other’s, even if they force you to follow their prediction, if you don’t really want to follow it,  then you won’t. So whatever the outcome of your bet, always blame yourself and always learn from your mistake. If you don’t blame yourself and you always blame others, then you won’t be able to learn and correct yourself.

In my opinion, we should do self-introspection or correct ourselves about what has happened, if we lose a lot of money in gambling, it is on our own control, even if we follow the advice of friends, I think it is based on our own control as well. following the advice of our friend as you said. and those of us who gamble do it because of ourselves, not because of other people's coercion, because other people or even the casino does not have the element of coercion.
We are the ones who do it ourselves, all the losses that occur are because we do it ourselves, not other people, don't try to throw stones and hide your hands, it's better to admit and correct yourself, if you really want to gamble, please be able to accept the risks that will occur in gambling. including the loss of money which is called a loss, even though we are gambling with real money it is unethical to blame other people as compensation for the losses we get.
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Story if my past. I used to play a lot multiplayer games where skill matters, but devices you use also play a tiny percent of your success. That time when I lost, I used to blame mouse that does bad clicking, lagging internet, opponents that cheat. With time I have learned, that only skill matter and there is no one to blame. So with time I have moved that rule to gambling. I have nobody to blame for my loss except myself and my luck.

It may not even have to be on wether we are playing a multiplier kind of game or not this time, when we gamble, we are hundred percent responsible for how we go about it as long as it belongs to us, we cannot share the right on winning with anyone as well as not blame anyone for our own consequences received from every decisions we made while gambling, we are gambling for our own self and not for other people to take glory or control of what we have risk our money on, even when thry contributed to it.
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When we get a loss, the easiest thing is to blame others, blame the people who have invited him to play gambling and the people who have taught him how to play gambling.

But it would be better if when we are unable to achieve what we want, including winning in gambling, then never blame others or people who have taught you. But introspect yourself, because maybe the tricks and lessons given are not wrong, but it is your understanding that is still lacking, so that what is taught is different from what is practiced. And if what is taught is wrong, if you are smart enough then it will never be easy for you to immediately practice it. and if you are wise enough then, the first thing you do is to find the truth, whether the tricks and strategies he provides are indeed proven to be good at increasing the chances of victory in every gambling that we do.
It is really he easiest way to ease out the pain eh? You would really be blaming out someone on the mistakes that you have done on which you are really just that making yourself that look laughable.
It would really be just that normal for people to have that kind of behavior. There are ones who do really love to blame and there are ones who just simply walk out and move on and call it a day
on which i could say that this is much more prefer rather than on blaming someone on the actions you had made just because they did make out some recommendations.
You are that responsible on the actions that you had made, it is really just not that right that you would really be making yourself that look like a food on blaming out someone with your losses. lol
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Gamblers who consider gambling as a place to make a profit will only regret it because they will fail to get that profit and will instead suffer a lot of losses. If they can't change their mindset, they will only repeat previous mistakes and won't be able to survive in gambling because they will experience a lot of losses, and it could even make them go bankrupt. Mentally, it would frustrate him with his losses, so he would want to try to recover from them. But every time he tried, he would never be able to recover from his losses and only increase the number of losses.
well, this is what I mean by a negative mindset like this which causes people to often lose and often lose large amounts of money which encourages their emotions to increase and cannot be controlled after which they often blame other people.
what's worse is that there is an emotional and almost depressed gambler who often loses because he always wants revenge for gambling, wants to get his money back, this person comes to the casino center and gets angry with the casino staff and says give him his money back. then he was kicked out of there after that he went home with regret and went to a friend who had asked him to gamble and blamed his friend and almost got into a fight but luckily another friend intervened.
after he got home he was angry with his wife and his wife was beaten until she had wounds on several parts of her face then his wife left him and now he is depressed and almost crazy.
this story is true because I know this person but not too close, just that he lives not too far from where I live.

and in conclusion, it is not recommended to consider gambling as a place to place hope, even though we gamble using money, it does not mean that the casino has to give the money back to the gambler because the gambling business will benefit the casino owner and this mindset can prevent us from the bad effects of blaming other people.
Playing irresponsibly is the problem, not gambling. Casual betting can lead to compulsive gambling motivated by a false belief in "recovering" losses. A gambler's descent into violence and despair is tragically common. The problem is lack of self-control and probability knowledge, not gambling.

We must acknowledge personal accountability. Gambling is enjoyment, not investment. The house always wins, therefore we must accept it. Casino visitors should bring money they can lose and leave unrealistic expectations at the door. Being disciplined and understanding when to stop is key.

This involves self-awareness and emotional intelligence, not merely gambling. We must promote responsible gambling and support addicts as a society. We need to stop demonizing casinos and start encouraging better gambling.
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Gamblers who consider gambling as a place to make a profit will only regret it because they will fail to get that profit and will instead suffer a lot of losses. If they can't change their mindset, they will only repeat previous mistakes and won't be able to survive in gambling because they will experience a lot of losses, and it could even make them go bankrupt. Mentally, it would frustrate him with his losses, so he would want to try to recover from them. But every time he tried, he would never be able to recover from his losses and only increase the number of losses.
well, this is what I mean by a negative mindset like this which causes people to often lose and often lose large amounts of money which encourages their emotions to increase and cannot be controlled after which they often blame other people.
what's worse is that there is an emotional and almost depressed gambler who often loses because he always wants revenge for gambling, wants to get his money back, this person comes to the casino center and gets angry with the casino staff and says give him his money back. then he was kicked out of there after that he went home with regret and went to a friend who had asked him to gamble and blamed his friend and almost got into a fight but luckily another friend intervened.
after he got home he was angry with his wife and his wife was beaten until she had wounds on several parts of her face then his wife left him and now he is depressed and almost crazy.
this story is true because I know this person but not too close, just that he lives not too far from where I live.

and in conclusion, it is not recommended to consider gambling as a place to place hope, even though we gamble using money, it does not mean that the casino has to give the money back to the gambler because the gambling business will benefit the casino owner and this mindset can prevent us from the bad effects of blaming other people.
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When we get a loss, the easiest thing is to blame others, blame the people who have invited him to play gambling and the people who have taught him how to play gambling.

But it would be better if when we are unable to achieve what we want, including winning in gambling, then never blame others or people who have taught you. But introspect yourself, because maybe the tricks and lessons given are not wrong, but it is your understanding that is still lacking, so that what is taught is different from what is practiced. And if what is taught is wrong, if you are smart enough then it will never be easy for you to immediately practice it. and if you are wise enough then, the first thing you do is to find the truth, whether the tricks and strategies he provides are indeed proven to be good at increasing the chances of victory in every gambling that we do.
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Maybe gamblers sometimes feel the feeling of blaming their friends. especially those who gamble or bet from friends' suggestions. and the results are not as expected.

If a friend make suggestion, they didn’t force you to follow their suggestion, you have the right not to gamble, so if you follow your friends suggestion and things didn’t go well as planed, then you should be responsible for your lose, and not to blame other’s, even if they force you to follow their prediction, if you don’t really want to follow it,  then you won’t. So whatever the outcome of your bet, always blame yourself and always learn from your mistake. If you don’t blame yourself and you always blame others, then you won’t be able to learn and correct yourself.

It is only a coward that would not take responsibility for his own mistakes, that is an act of irresponsibility.  As an adult,  you are at liberty to make your own decisions, decisions which you deemed good to you, it will be unwise to put blames on other people except you were made to do certain things against your will under duress.

Gambling is a very sensitive activity and one must be careful with it. A little act of fun or a small win can push one into making mistakes they will live to regret. It might seem easy but not too easy as it seems. All those battling with one gambling problem or the other started from somewhere. Their problem started like fun until it grew into a more serious issue. In gambling,  self control is indeed a virtue, if you allow yourself to get carried away, you will face the consequences alone.
This is the type of person who constantly shifts responsibility onto others and tries to remove it from themselves. Probably these are just not adults, because adults always abdicate responsibility. They can live until old age, but never learn how to do it. And there are those who were left without parents at a young age and are accustomed to taking on more responsibility than is required.

As for gambling specifically, the loser will look for an excuse, and one of them may be blaming other people because of whom, directly or indirectly, he started making these bets. Of course, the responsibility is entirely on this player, and the fact that he comes up with all this is complete nonsense.
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Maybe gamblers sometimes feel the feeling of blaming their friends. especially those who gamble or bet from friends' suggestions. and the results are not as expected.

If a friend make suggestion, they didn’t force you to follow their suggestion, you have the right not to gamble, so if you follow your friends suggestion and things didn’t go well as planed, then you should be responsible for your lose, and not to blame other’s, even if they force you to follow their prediction, if you don’t really want to follow it,  then you won’t. So whatever the outcome of your bet, always blame yourself and always learn from your mistake. If you don’t blame yourself and you always blame others, then you won’t be able to learn and correct yourself.

It is only a coward that would not take responsibility for his own mistakes, that is an act of irresponsibility.  As an adult,  you are at liberty to make your own decisions, decisions which you deemed good to you, it will be unwise to put blames on other people except you were made to do certain things against your will under duress.

Gambling is a very sensitive activity and one must be careful with it. A little act of fun or a small win can push one into making mistakes they will live to regret. It might seem easy but not too easy as it seems. All those battling with one gambling problem or the other started from somewhere. Their problem started like fun until it grew into a more serious issue. In gambling,  self control is indeed a virtue, if you allow yourself to get carried away, you will face the consequences alone.
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more precisely, gambling should not be done excessively. I mean every gambler should use small amount of money that can afford to lose at gambling and still think that gambling just a place to find fun without expecting anything and gamblers who have this kind of big mindset and responsibility will never blame anyone and under any circumstances the gambler it's still fine.

except gamblers who think excessively like gambling is considered place to make a profit, they will often blame other people or their own family because gamblers who have mindset like that will definitely make another deposit when they lose to continue pursuing the losses and profits they want to get but unfortunately if If you have lost in a row, you will definitely experience defeat in the long run and he ignores this. so that mentally his emotions increase and he blames other people nearby.

If it happens only occasionally, maybe it doesn't matter we give in and leave the casino, but if the person often blames us, it's better to fight back with  few words that can wake him up.
It is true that you should not gamble excessively, and you must still control your spending. That way, we can avoid bigger losses while enjoying gambling as entertainment. We do not need to bear the risk of greater loss because we do not aim to gamble to make money. And if we lose, we won't blame other people because gambling was our own fault. Even though we already know that gambling can cause us to lose, we still do it.

Gamblers who consider gambling as a place to make a profit will only regret it because they will fail to get that profit and will instead suffer a lot of losses. If they can't change their mindset, they will only repeat previous mistakes and won't be able to survive in gambling because they will experience a lot of losses, and it could even make them go bankrupt. Mentally, it would frustrate him with his losses, so he would want to try to recover from them. But every time he tried, he would never be able to recover from his losses and only increase the number of losses.

And if someone blames us because they have experienced loss, we should leave them and not have to deal with them anymore. We will only continue to be blamed every time he loses, even though we didn't tell him to gamble, and it was because of his own desires.
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Maybe gamblers sometimes feel the feeling of blaming their friends. especially those who gamble or bet from friends' suggestions. and the results are not as expected.

If a friend make suggestion, they didn’t force you to follow their suggestion, you have the right not to gamble, so if you follow your friends suggestion and things didn’t go well as planed, then you should be responsible for your lose, and not to blame other’s, even if they force you to follow their prediction, if you don’t really want to follow it,  then you won’t. So whatever the outcome of your bet, always blame yourself and always learn from your mistake. If you don’t blame yourself and you always blame others, then you won’t be able to learn and correct yourself.

That is good to be clear about because whenever a prediction type is made, the goodies can be present and just as they can make them win, they can make them lose, a person who is very weak-minded cannot be sure to take Advice from someone because they will not know how to face the situation but that he will simply go against them because they made him lose and they will try to tell that person that it was because of them that he lost, and that is something that lends itself to fights, so it is better to get away, no do a lot , and if you are going to advise someone to do it in a way that makes them think, not to do it.

People when they are in the casino are very susceptible to emotions, it is very easy to dominate their mind when they have nothing to do or how to play, but they Want to take care of their money and increase it, it is difficult, when you put all that together, it is easy react badly, because things don't turn out the way they are , and it's not the fault of Others , it's their fault, they have to Accept that whether they Want to or not.
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Maybe gamblers sometimes feel the feeling of blaming their friends. especially those who gamble or bet from friends' suggestions. and the results are not as expected.

If a friend make suggestion, they didn’t force you to follow their suggestion, you have the right not to gamble, so if you follow your friends suggestion and things didn’t go well as planed, then you should be responsible for your lose, and not to blame other’s, even if they force you to follow their prediction, if you don’t really want to follow it,  then you won’t. So whatever the outcome of your bet, always blame yourself and always learn from your mistake. If you don’t blame yourself and you always blame others, then you won’t be able to learn and correct yourself.
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Many people simply do not want to take responsibility for their bets, and do not want to analyze the upcoming match themselves, well, or simply do not have the skills to do so. In my opinion, such bets are somewhat similar to a coin toss or beginner's trading. In fact, there are a lot of people who like to look for blame around, and even outside of gambling. Probably so works the defense mechanism of our body, because when our brain can not explain why this or that event occurred dramatically opposite, it tries to build a cause-and-effect chain and find the point of failure. Naturally, the brain cannot make itself look guilty, which means we need to find someone to blame. A friend who gave a forecast or a publication with a forecast is perfect for this.
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