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Quote from: ongkok87 on October 18, 2020, 07:53:29 AM

It looks like majority of players didn't read the terms and conditions rather than users who reads terms and conditions. It's true that sometimes we're lazy to read this because it's too long but what i do is search using the word search for the KYC and other stuff lang deposit and withdrawal to make it easier.

I don't usually read TOS as long as the platform is already trusted by many users. I know it's wrong since we should know what's inside a TOS, much information there might help us in case of conflict so it's important to give attention to it.

To be honest, I'm lazy to read, and just trusting a platform if it consists of a lot of good reviews. Also, if you're doing good and just doing casual betting on the platform, there will be no problem for you, it's fine if you didn't read it.

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It looks like majority of players didn't read the terms and conditions rather than users who reads terms and conditions. It's true that sometimes we're lazy to read this because it's too long but what i do is search using the word search for the KYC and other stuff lang deposit and withdrawal to make it easier.

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Quote from: XZERO1 on October 18, 2020, 05:01:38 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on October 18, 2020, 04:16:19 AM

I don't think we lose time on reading those but if you just want to know a specific term on the TOS just like KYC, withdrawal, restricted country or something like that you could use Ctrl+f to do that if you're using PC.

That's exactly what I do every time, I won't go through the whole thing and I just search the keywords that I'm interested in like KYC, withdrawal and deposit and I agree that doing it this way won't take much time at all and that way definitely you will be aware of the important parts of TOS, of course it wouldn't be like reading the whole thing but it's certainly way better than not reading it at all and using the website blindly not knowing what kinds of issues you will be having along the way.

The important thing that we should know is about KYC, withdrawal and deposit, and I think that would be enough to understand their global rule. We should read their TOS not to break their rules because we don't want to see they will block our account. But if you want to know the whole things in the TOS, you need to spend more time to read one by one of their rules, so you know what it is, and you can write it up in your note.

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Honestly sometimes I don't read the terms and conditions of the casino for those who are likely common like dice game etc. I'm just reading their FAQs since the terms of service are most likely the same but I always read TOS of the sports betting websites since they have different terms of service when using their websites.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on October 18, 2020, 04:16:19 AM

I don't think we lose time on reading those but if you just want to know a specific term on the TOS just like KYC, withdrawal, restricted country or something like that you could use Ctrl+f to do that if you're using PC.

That's exactly what I do every time, I won't go through the whole thing and I just search the keywords that I'm interested in like KYC, withdrawal and deposit and I agree that doing it this way won't take much time at all and that way definitely you will be aware of the important parts of TOS, of course it wouldn't be like reading the whole thing but it's certainly way better than not reading it at all and using the website blindly not knowing what kinds of issues you will be having along the way.

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Quote from: stadus on October 18, 2020, 03:43:57 AM

Looks like for most of us reading the TOS would lose our time because most of us here voted for "NO".

35-41 in favor of NO, now, let's tell these people to start reading the TOS in every site they are using.

Make it 36 as I'm favor reading those TOS. Well, the fact is we tend to forget to read the TOS when we are entering a casino or whatever platform it is, may it be exchanges or gaming platform etc. But for some reason when there's some problems arises it's our go-to to clear the smoke we are into and I think that's fine.

Besides, the vote remains neutral in a sense because the question only corresponds if anyone are reading the TOS, it does not corresponds whether you read the TOS before you accept their service/s. I don't think we lose time on reading those but if you just want to know a specific term on the TOS just like KYC, withdrawal, restricted country or something like that you could use Ctrl+f to do that if you're using PC.

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Quote from: stadus on October 18, 2020, 03:43:57 AM

Quote from: Reatim on October 18, 2020, 02:53:54 AM

Well maybe you are correct but it is better to read still because you will lose nothing by reading the TOS but you may lose everything if you did not follow their TOS.

and also there will be a chance that others will have different Terms Of Service so better be aware of that.

Looks like for most of us reading the TOS would lose our time because most of us here voted for "NO".

35-41 in favor of NO, now, let's tell these people to start reading the TOS in every site they are using.

This is because TOS are often just a copy of one. If you have read one TOS before, its likely that the rest of the TOS of other websites has same content. We are fed up of TOS and its a time wasting if all you just do there is bet dice and when losing a capital, you move to another casino to once again bet. We are hopping from one casino to another and their TOS are almost the same.

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Quote from: stadus on October 18, 2020, 03:43:57 AM

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35-41 in favor of NO, now, let's tell these people to start reading the TOS in every site they are using.

I cant imagine the result, I thought we are in a community that has enough knowledge about gambling, tha6t's why there are too many people who have many troubles upon using the site because of not reading TOS.

Don't be lazy of not reading the TOS because that is a very important factor to avoid some troubles in the future. Because every gambling site has different perspective TOS. You cant say sorry once you have violated the rules, it will automatically suspend or lock your account without knowing you.

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Quote from: Reatim on October 18, 2020, 02:53:54 AM

Well maybe you are correct but it is better to read still because you will lose nothing by reading the TOS but you may lose everything if you did not follow their TOS.

and also there will be a chance that others will have different Terms Of Service so better be aware of that.

Looks like for most of us reading the TOS would lose our time because most of us here voted for "NO".

35-41 in favor of NO, now, let's tell these people to start reading the TOS in every site they are using.

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Quote from: Saisher on October 18, 2020, 01:36:28 AM

Quote from: Natalim on October 16, 2020, 06:06:44 AM

I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?

I voted no, TOS of these gambling sites are all the same I read one of it so it's like I read all of the site's TOS if there is an FAQ I go there and that's what I read and memorize because it's the sum of all the site's basic rules, but when I am going to deposit and play for a long time I see to it I read the important rules so I will not get into trouble.

Mate better delete the first post you created above because you are multi posting .

Well maybe you are correct but it is better to read still because you will lose nothing by reading the TOS but you may lose everything if you did not follow their TOS.

and also there will be a chance that others will have different Terms Of Service so better be aware of that.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 16, 2020, 06:06:44 AM

I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?

I voted no, TOS of these gambling sites are all the same I read one of it so it's like I read all of the site's TOS if there is an FAQ I go there and that's what I read and memorize because it's the sum of all the site's basic rules, but when I am going to deposit and play for a long time I see to it I read the important rules so I will not get into trouble.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 16, 2020, 06:06:44 AM

I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?

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Quote from: Natalim on October 16, 2020, 06:06:44 AM

I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?

I do, not 100% but around 80-90% I've read it. I don't mind if it's long, I'm quite a fast reader. I do still read it even though I already know that the site is trustworthy, I just felt I need to double check it myself. TOS is available for you to read. It's a crucial part of gambling cause money will be involved and it's for your own safety too.

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I don't bother reading that very long ToS. I don't gamble big amount so even if I win, it won't be difficult for me to withdraw it. And I think most people don't even read it too.

I'd rather read the FAQ page to see how much is the fee for withdrawal and if I can withdraw it without kyc.

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Quote from: btc78 on October 17, 2020, 09:06:57 PM

I'm not a High bettor so i don't really care about TOS as long as i trust the site and how do i found trusted sites?
of course those who had been advertised in this forum for long time now except this Signature i am wearing because this needs
not to be old before i trust,since the manager is a well respected in this forum for long time now so playing in their site is what i also value trustworthy.

Well a forum IS one of the ways to actually find good sites, especially a forum that is filled with well-known veteran members that actually offer honest opinions and replies to questions, still reading the TOS even without being a high bettor is still a requirement imo. Don't really need to read everything, if you're not a high bettor, you can pretty much just read the deposit withdrawal agreements as well as countries allowed or restrictions for each country in their TOS, and you should be done.

Quote from: khaled0111 on October 17, 2020, 02:07:48 PM

I am surprised by the poll results! I didn't expect to see many gamblers voting "no"!
It, somehow, explains why there are so many topics complaining about their accounts being locked or being unable to withdraw their funds.

Reading the ToS of any platform/company before using its services is a must especially when money is involved.
It's like a contract between you and the platform and by using any of the services offered by the latter, you implicitly agree to all their terms.

Not really surprising tbh, only those more experienced ones would read TOS since they've experienced the pain of having problems with their accounts. Most people actually experience close to zero problems when playing, so they just continue on with the same attitude not just with gambling sites but with other sites as well, since really let's be honest here, reading the TOS is a pain in the ass, and is more often than not unnecessary for others.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 17, 2020, 09:10:08 AM

I hope OP is not making this survey for the gambling sites to know, lol.. If they'll know that majority of us here are not really reading the TOS, they might make some sudden changes that is not in our favor. By the way I voted no because OP says he wants and honest answer.

Gambling sites can change their TOS without telling anyone regardless of the fact that they know that we read the TOS or not. However good gambling sites will always inform their users and keep them in confidence, if they make any changes of their regulations.

Quote from: btc78 on October 17, 2020, 09:06:57 PM

I'm not a High bettor so i don't really care about TOS as long as i trust the site and how do i found trusted sites?
of course those who had been advertised in this forum for long time now except this Signature i am wearing because this needs
not to be old before i trust,since the manager is a well respected in this forum for long time now so playing in their site is what i also value trustworthy.

The manager is not the owner of the casino. Trusting the manager and not reading the TOS is certainly not right. You can trust the manager because you will be sure that he will pay you in time but at the same time you should read the TOS on the site too and do your own research.

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Quote from: btc78 on October 17, 2020, 09:06:57 PM

I'm not a High bettor so i don't really care about TOS as long as i trust the site and how do i found trusted sites?
of course those who had been advertised in this forum for long time now except this Signature i am wearing because this needs
not to be old before i trust,since the manager is a well respected in this forum for long time now so playing in their site is what i also value trustworthy.

Not that I don't trust yahoo62278 but I totally respect the man himself for he managed many campaigns (totally good campaign) in the past but I don't think just because it's been managed by a well-known member it also shows how trustworthy the site is. A manager could also be wrong and it's not a safe haven because he's the one managing it.

By the way, TOS as well is not only for the high bettors it is for those people that using the casino's service or any other services.

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Quote from: Natalim on October 16, 2020, 06:06:44 AM

I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?

Yes as this is a obligation of every responsible gamblers mate,and being responsible will save you from BS and mistakes gambling might bring you.

This is like how we obey rules in life and laws of our government,TOS is one best way also to make your self aware of the possibilities of losing your money if did not follow.

Quote from: btc78 on October 17, 2020, 09:06:57 PM

I'm not a High bettor so i don't really care about TOS as long as i trust the site and how do i found trusted sites?

It doesnt have to be a High bettor to read and understand the TOS because being a gambler this is the first thing you must do while entering the gambling sites.

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I'm not a High bettor so i don't really care about TOS as long as i trust the site and how do i found trusted sites?
of course those who had been advertised in this forum for long time now except this Signature i am wearing because this needs
not to be old before i trust,since the manager is a well respected in this forum for long time now so playing in their site is what i also value trustworthy.

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Quote from: robelneo on October 17, 2020, 07:51:21 PM

Quote from: imstillthebest on October 17, 2020, 10:07:27 AM

Tbh no .because the write ups were so large and the write ups also are the same to other gambling sites or to other sites but except to some lines maybe ?

I rather read the faq because I can seek easy answers on it and most of what is written on t.o.s can also be found on the FAQ page .

I think I will only read the t.o.s once I'll got penalized and I didn't knew the reason why it happen and then the staff that I pm will also turn over me to their t.o.s page . So far that didn't happen

I posted that I only read it when I am going to deposit and play big amount of money and I encourage everyone to do that also so you'll be in a safe side and you know what to do and what to avoid, if there are FAQ I always check that, it's much easier and easy to read than going through a long read that sometimes took ten minutes of reading.

Reading the TOS will always be recommended for people who visit the gambling site for the first time. But if he visits on the site from a long time ago, I think he will know the TOS, and he will not have a problem to deposit or withdraw his money. We need to read the TOS if we are not familiar with the gambling site because I think each gambling site has different TOS and rules. But I believe that we know about reading the TOS to make sure that we can accept the rules, and if we can't accept the rules, we can move to other gambling websites.

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