Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide. - page 6.

bitterguy28

full member

Activity: 2170

Merit: 182

“FRX: Ferocious Alpha”

Quote from: Salauddin1994 on December 02, 2020, 03:13:13 AM

Gambling is usually based on experience although gambling for entertainment does not require checking every bet it often requires the right idea it is not possible to choose an alternative method of gambling without experience. There are many popular gambling sites that do not need to be verified everyone plays according to their choice and enjoys gradually they can choose the best betting site.

maybe at first specially if the Site is new to us,better check the Fairness of the gambling site by checking how fair are they.
This is for our own benefits because we must not give consent to Cheater ,remember how much Money is involve here,,Maybe we are small players but what about those who spend thousand and millions ,they deserve to be treated fairly.

Salauddin1994

member

Activity: 868

Merit: 15

Gambling is usually based on experience although gambling for entertainment does not require checking every bet it often requires the right idea it is not possible to choose an alternative method of gambling without experience. There are many popular gambling sites that do not need to be verified everyone plays according to their choice and enjoys gradually they can choose the best betting site.

btc78

full member

Activity: 2520

Merit: 214

Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!

Quote from: Shasha80 on November 29, 2020, 02:55:17 PM

I agree with you, if we play gambling for entertainment purposes, usually do not think about fairness. So we don't need to check
every bet we have done to find out the fairness of the gambling site.

Even if we are just Playing for Fun always consider the fairness because We are spending money here so it is deserving tobe fair and legit.
Because chances of winning is always there and we might win the jackpot if very lucky.

Quote

Moreover, we do choose gambling sites that are popular and
trusted, so gambling sites reputation is guaranteed well. Because gambling sites have a good reputation, I believe they will be fair,
so there is no need to verify fairness.

Well not all are there to find reputable and popular site sometimes we are aiming to try newer gambling site for experience and other entertainment place to enjoy.

traderethereum

hero member

Activity: 2870

Merit: 574

Vave.com - Crypto Casino

Quote from: Shasha80 on November 29, 2020, 02:55:17 PM

I agree with you, if we play gambling for entertainment purposes, usually do not think about fairness. So we don't need to check
every bet we have done to find out the fairness of the gambling site. Moreover, we do choose gambling sites that are popular and
trusted, so gambling sites reputation is guaranteed well. Because gambling sites have a good reputation, I believe they will be fair,
so there is no need to verify fairness.

That is right because they only want to search for fun and not think about the negative side that may or could happen to the game.
They want to enjoy the game in their free time, while they don't have much time to playing gambling.
If we can choose the recommended gambling site and popular site, we don't have to worry because it will give their best to their members.
Yes, they will be fair to all of their members for their reputations.

Fatunad

sr. member

Activity: 2226

Merit: 347

Quote from: South Park on December 01, 2020, 02:43:17 PM

Quote from: Shasha80 on November 29, 2020, 02:55:17 PM

I agree with you, if we play gambling for entertainment purposes, usually do not think about fairness. So we don't need to check
every bet we have done to find out the fairness of the gambling site. Moreover, we do choose gambling sites that are popular and
trusted, so gambling sites reputation is guaranteed well. Because gambling sites have a good reputation, I believe they will be fair,
so there is no need to verify fairness.

You do not have to check every single bet, if you are the kind of gambler that always bets the same amount no matter what then as long as you verify some of those bets on each session and each one of them is what you expect then there is a very good chance that the rest of the best are also fine and you have nothing to worry about, now if you are a gambler that likes to make some big bets from time to time then those are precisely the ones you need to verify as a dishonest casino will most likely try to cheat you on those kind of bets.

Stick to those who do have lots of players because that do already indicates that the online casino you've been dealing with is a fair one.
For those gamblers who are big bettors then its neither they are fan on trying out something new sites or places.Its up to someone because
not all would really be having on the same mindset on where some do just go with the herd and some do want to risk up into some new place.
Verifying is a must but most of people arent really minding on verifying from time to time.

South Park

hero member

Activity: 2884

Merit: 794

I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!

Quote from: Shasha80 on November 29, 2020, 02:55:17 PM

I agree with you, if we play gambling for entertainment purposes, usually do not think about fairness. So we don't need to check
every bet we have done to find out the fairness of the gambling site. Moreover, we do choose gambling sites that are popular and
trusted, so gambling sites reputation is guaranteed well. Because gambling sites have a good reputation, I believe they will be fair,
so there is no need to verify fairness.

You do not have to check every single bet, if you are the kind of gambler that always bets the same amount no matter what then as long as you verify some of those bets on each session and each one of them is what you expect then there is a very good chance that the rest of the best are also fine and you have nothing to worry about, now if you are a gambler that likes to make some big bets from time to time then those are precisely the ones you need to verify as a dishonest casino will most likely try to cheat you on those kind of bets.

peter0425

sr. member

Activity: 2618

Merit: 439

Quote from: Pasnik on November 30, 2020, 11:35:36 PM

This thread is really helpful specially if you a new in gambling and not familiar to other gambling or betting site. And I think we have different choices in terms about gambling site the importance is you know the terms and conditions of the sites.

And also they must be reputable and legit because we don't know when we will be lucky and when we may have a chance to get a jackpot.

So in case that the casino is legit then we are guaranteed of claiming the wins,Because if this is illegal then the chance of having the pot is at risk as they can just run away.

Pasnik

sr. member

Activity: 649

Merit: 250

This thread is really helpful specially if you a new in gambling and not familiar to other gambling or betting site. And I think we have different choices in terms about gambling site the importance is you know the terms and conditions of the sites.

Shasha80

sr. member

Activity: 1876

Merit: 318

Quote from: traderethereum on November 29, 2020, 01:37:03 AM

Quote from: Serious475 on November 25, 2020, 10:23:13 AM

Quote from: acener on November 21, 2020, 04:05:09 AM

~snip~

If you are playing gambling because of the search for fun and not thinking about winning or fairness, you don't have to verify every bet because that will reduce your enjoyment in playing the games.
But you can verify by yourself to find out if their system is fair or they cheat on you, so you can report to the support system if you found it.
I think verifying the system is fair or not will need to spend some time to check, and not all people want to do that.
But if the gambling site is recommended and many gamblers trust that site, we don't have to suspicious about them because they won't do something negative that will make their members leave them.
The thing that can make us disappointed is when we lose our money in gambling, making us feel sad.

I agree with you, if we play gambling for entertainment purposes, usually do not think about fairness. So we don't need to check
every bet we have done to find out the fairness of the gambling site. Moreover, we do choose gambling sites that are popular and
trusted, so gambling sites reputation is guaranteed well. Because gambling sites have a good reputation, I believe they will be fair,
so there is no need to verify fairness.

toast

sr. member

Activity: 1582

Merit: 253

one of the most helpful thread i've read not only that but also the link on your personal text i even visited that, this is really helpful for the community and for the newbie user of the cryptocurrency.

Wexnident

hero member

Activity: 2702

Merit: 672

I don't request loans~

Oh nice, I liked the explanation for provably fair for some games in the bottom part. I first thought it was just a site that listed sites that you guys verified as provably fair, glad that there was at the very least an explanation below, even if lengthy ~~not that I understand most, especially when we're talking about seeds, but I'll try to~~

Quote from: Sebas.tian on November 25, 2020, 09:46:25 AM

More reasons why we don't verify bets before play. Personally i had experienced much on this gambling industry and have come to that junction where i only play with trusted platforms to avoid verify games before play. Most of my gambling platforms are those i have trusted for sometime now and need not to verify before gambling. It's my hardest to play with newly launched gambling platforms at the moment becasue many doesn't have fair platform for their gamblers.

Well as long as it's trusted, not only by you but also by others, then not testing it strictly should be more than enough imo. Testing for Provably fair should only happen mostly in new casinos, to test if they're still following it properly, and most other sites would only be tested maybe once a month? There are tens of thousands of players on each casino anyway, there's probably at least one or two people out there that check the hashes to see if it matches.

traderethereum

hero member

Activity: 2870

Merit: 574

Vave.com - Crypto Casino

Quote from: Serious475 on November 25, 2020, 10:23:13 AM

Quote from: acener on November 21, 2020, 04:05:09 AM

Nope I don't verify every bets as a gambler I just enjoy every round as much as I could.
Besides I only play on trusted and well known gambling sites I don't want to play on new sites that doesn't have much info or player.

You should start verifying every bet that you are doing because verifying is not hard to do and it will make your chance of winning bigger and you won't get disappointed if you lose since you've done all you can. I i were you, I will makes sure that the thing I am going to spend my money is for everyone just like making your own online casino because it is the most demand for all the crypto users and it can be an entertaining for those who are addicted to the gambling.

If you are playing gambling because of the search for fun and not thinking about winning or fairness, you don't have to verify every bet because that will reduce your enjoyment in playing the games.
But you can verify by yourself to find out if their system is fair or they cheat on you, so you can report to the support system if you found it.
I think verifying the system is fair or not will need to spend some time to check, and not all people want to do that.
But if the gambling site is recommended and many gamblers trust that site, we don't have to suspicious about them because they won't do something negative that will make their members leave them.
The thing that can make us disappointed is when we lose our money in gambling, making us feel sad.

Fatunad

sr. member

Activity: 2226

Merit: 347

Quote from: Jemzx00 on November 25, 2020, 10:58:26 AM

Quote from: Serious475 on November 25, 2020, 10:23:13 AM

Quote from: acener on November 21, 2020, 04:05:09 AM

Nope I don't verify every bets as a gambler I just enjoy every round as much as I could.
Besides I only play on trusted and well known gambling sites I don't want to play on new sites that doesn't have much info or player.

You should start verifying every bet that you are doing because verifying is not hard to do and it will make your chance of winning bigger and you won't get disappointed if you lose since you've done all you can. I i were you, I will makes sure that the thing I am going to spend my money is for everyone just like making your own online casino because it is the most demand for all the crypto users and it can be an entertaining for those who are addicted to the gambling.

If you're gambling to mainly earn and focus only on winning then you're right to verify each and every bet you make. You can study the algorithm and fact check every bet you do especially if you're doubting the site you are gambling on to predict the next bet you'll do. But not all are there to bet and verify as it won't as much fun as just playing your money and winning on pure chance and luck which trigger us to play more and more until we win a lot or lose em' all.

If you are really that meticulous into things then you would surely verify into those bets and see if its fair or not.There are really people who are really keen or serious
when it comes to their money.They do want that even if they do lose then they lose in a fair way not on a manipulative or being that cheated.
Majority of people wont really care or wont have this kind of behavior because they do just simply stick out to those reputable or known ones and presuming that theyre
dealing with a fair site which does actually have some point because people wont stick into a place if they do find out if somethings fishy is happening.

Jemzx00

hero member

Activity: 1498

Merit: 547

Top Crypto Casino

Quote from: Serious475 on November 25, 2020, 10:23:13 AM

Quote from: acener on November 21, 2020, 04:05:09 AM

Nope I don't verify every bets as a gambler I just enjoy every round as much as I could.
Besides I only play on trusted and well known gambling sites I don't want to play on new sites that doesn't have much info or player.

You should start verifying every bet that you are doing because verifying is not hard to do and it will make your chance of winning bigger and you won't get disappointed if you lose since you've done all you can. I i were you, I will makes sure that the thing I am going to spend my money is for everyone just like making your own online casino because it is the most demand for all the crypto users and it can be an entertaining for those who are addicted to the gambling.

If you're gambling to mainly earn and focus only on winning then you're right to verify each and every bet you make. You can study the algorithm and fact check every bet you do especially if you're doubting the site you are gambling on to predict the next bet you'll do. But not all are there to bet and verify as it won't as much fun as just playing your money and winning on pure chance and luck which trigger us to play more and more until we win a lot or lose em' all.

Serious475

full member

Activity: 574

Merit: 101

Quote from: acener on November 21, 2020, 04:05:09 AM

Nope I don't verify every bets as a gambler I just enjoy every round as much as I could.
Besides I only play on trusted and well known gambling sites I don't want to play on new sites that doesn't have much info or player.

You should start verifying every bet that you are doing because verifying is not hard to do and it will make your chance of winning bigger and you won't get disappointed if you lose since you've done all you can. I i were you, I will makes sure that the thing I am going to spend my money is for everyone just like making your own online casino because it is the most demand for all the crypto users and it can be an entertaining for those who are addicted to the gambling.

Sebas.tian

full member

Activity: 2184

Merit: 184

Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com

Quote from: acener on November 21, 2020, 04:05:09 AM

Nope I don't verify every bets as a gambler I just enjoy every round as much as I could.
Besides I only play on trusted and well known gambling sites I don't want to play on new sites that doesn't have much info or player.

More reasons why we don't verify bets before play. Personally i had experienced much on this gambling industry and have come to that junction where i only play with trusted platforms to avoid verify games before play. Most of my gambling platforms are those i have trusted for sometime now and need not to verify before gambling. It's my hardest to play with newly launched gambling platforms at the moment becasue many doesn't have fair platform for their gamblers.

webtricks

legendary

Activity: 1918

Merit: 1728

Quote from: seoincorporation on November 25, 2020, 08:56:20 AM

Quote from: webtricks on November 21, 2020, 03:26:08 AM

BUMP!

Wanna read more about provably fair? Check this article on BTCGosu: https://www.btcgosu.com/provably-fair/

That's a nice article, all the casinos listed there are trusted sites. But some of them have a complex provably fair engine.

I don't like the sites who have a shared nonce and not an individual one, to be more clear, some casinos use the total number of bets on the casino to estimate the bet result while others use the total of your own bets.

Can you give me example of the casinos using this shared nonce method? I wasn't able to fully understand which site or provably fair mechanism you are referring to. If you could give me the name, I can look into it in detail and determine whether the provably fair script of such casino is actually fair or not. If not then I will notify about the same to the casino and insist them to improve the same.

Also, the article is written by me but the list of casinos is added by BTCGosu (@efialtis). But like you said all of them are trusted so I guess efialtis has done adequate due diligence before adding them to the GOSU. Nevertheless, if I found discrepancy in the script, I will inform about the same to efialtis too so that he can remove the said casino from the list.

seoincorporation

legendary

Activity: 3332

Merit: 3116

Quote from: webtricks on November 21, 2020, 03:26:08 AM

BUMP!

Wanna read more about provably fair? Check this article on BTCGosu: https://www.btcgosu.com/provably-fair/

That's a nice article, all the casinos listed there are trusted sites. But some of them have a complex provably fair engine.

I don't like the sites who have a shared nonce and not an individual one, to be more clear, some casinos use the total number of bets on the casino to estimate the bet result while others use the total of your own bets.

Emitdama

sr. member

Activity: 1914

Merit: 328

Quote from: acener on November 21, 2020, 04:05:09 AM

Nope I don't verify every bets as a gambler I just enjoy every round as much as I could.
Besides I only play on trusted and well known gambling sites I don't want to play on new sites that doesn't have much info or player.

Every site is a trusted and well known casino until they are found cheating and busted open by a member who has the time and knowledge to verify their bets. I also bet on reputed sites like primedice but I don't hesitate to verify the bets because it is our duty to ensure the system is working as it is meant to be and yeah the casino have their reputation but it takes minutes to verify.

I don't verify each and every bet though because it becomes a menace to do that and impossible to enjoy when I verify each bet.

Quote from: webtricks on November 21, 2020, 03:26:08 AM

Wanna read more about provably fair? Check this article on BTCGosu: https://www.btcgosu.com/provably-fair/

Thanks for the link, it definitely helps new members always!

fullhdpixel

hero member

Activity: 2828

Merit: 611

Quote from: CarnagexD on November 21, 2020, 05:02:04 PM

Most people like living off the edge thinking that a single varifier cannot dictate their winnings or losses when it can literally save you from unfair losses rigged by the server and the gambling site itself. Casinos do that thing where they check every game before letting people play it, why has it all of a sudden become "inconvenient" for you guys to verify the credibility of your bets.

Look I understand we should verify our bets but this is how I think. If a casino is actually rigging rolls they must be very selective with their rigging because if they rigged every roll on the website they will be caught within minutes. So if they are being selective and rigging rolls for users who they know make fast bets and probably don't verify then there is no chance they will rig my rolls because I make manual bets and I usually don't ever use autobet even when I am applying a strategy I use manual betting.

Also my bet size is small and it would be seriously idiotic of them to scam me for $5-10 and lose all their reputation they have built by spending so much money and probably paying out 1000x bigger bets than me.

Topic: Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide. - page 6. (Read 4879 times)