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Topic: Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide. - page 2. (Read 4879 times)

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Every gambling site has got its own edge. For different games the site has got different percentage as house edge. Reputable gambling sites won't make the edge get adjusted to the games for bigger earning. I won't be checking every bet, because I used to go on for a series of bets. Earlier it was little complicated to verify the provably fair functioning of the site. Now every site has made it much user friendly, so if there arises an issue I'll go verify for it rather than checking every bet.
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This is some topic I have been wondering how could be verified in the last few weeks.

It is already difficult to beat the odds in a fair game, just imagine if the internal mechanisms of the bet are rigged Huh

Thanks for sharing this information, I hope one day most of the online betting sites apply provably fair mechanisms in their services.
The good thing for you is that almost all of the reputable casinos that you can find in the market of cryptocurrencies offer you this option and you can clearly see that they are not cheating you, this is important because as we know casinos already have an edge and we are paying there knowing that most likely over the long term we are going to lose money anyway but a casino that cheats their customers simply has not room in this market and as soon as someone realizes that they make a scam accusation in the forum to let everyone know about it.
When an online casino tend to rig out then sooner or later it would really be busted up.Majority of sites now does have internal verifier where you can actually
see if the bets are fair or not plus there are other external which you can really make out some verifying too.

You would really see on which site is fair basing off on number of players or users who do standby on the site.You cant see it on sites which does have
issues when it comes to fairness.We gamblers do like to play on where a site doesn't really rig out their games.

We lose but we prefer to lose in a fair and equal way on where you haven't been cheated.
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This is some topic I have been wondering how could be verified in the last few weeks.

It is already difficult to beat the odds in a fair game, just imagine if the internal mechanisms of the bet are rigged Huh

Thanks for sharing this information, I hope one day most of the online betting sites apply provably fair mechanisms in their services.
The good thing for you is that almost all of the reputable casinos that you can find in the market of cryptocurrencies offer you this option and you can clearly see that they are not cheating you, this is important because as we know casinos already have an edge and we are paying there knowing that most likely over the long term we are going to lose money anyway but a casino that cheats their customers simply has not room in this market and as soon as someone realizes that they make a scam accusation in the forum to let everyone know about it.
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It is fine to be this careful at the beginning when you are trying a casino for the first time but it is not necessary to go to those extremes for the rest of your gambling journey, if you make 200 rolls of a dice in a session as long as you verify 5% to 10% of a random selection of rolls and it turns out to be that everything is in order then you can have a great degree of confidence that things are fine in the casino and that you can keep gambling there with no problem at all.
Carefully will need while you gamble and don't lose that before you end your time playing gambling. We do not need to verify almost all of our bets, but we could only verify some bets, so we don't lose our time to verify the bet. If you can play gambling on a reputable gambling site, you do not need to verify because they will not do something suspicious or even cheat you or other members.
I will have to disagree with you on that point, there are many examples of reputable sites that eventually became scams so it is important to always verify your bets, as I said in my previous post it is not necessary to verify every single bet, as long as you verify some of them, especially those that were bigger and the cases in which you lose several times in a row and everything is fine, then you can keep using that casino but at the first sign of an irregularity you should stop until things get clarified.
Maybe what you are saying is right, but not many reputable sites became scams because the other reputable sites will not do that thing easily. They prefer to manage their reputations by avoiding cheat on their gamblers because they really concern about their members. If they cheat their members, that means it does not takes too long, they will lose their income and they will not have a chance to continue their business. To verify or not to verify will depend on each gambler, and if they think that they must verify the bets on every site the gambler played, they will do that.
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Normally i don't check for my seed if the game and website is properly sending my server hash and client hash. Because i usually pick the popular sites from the community, that has no negative feedback about their bettings.
But if there's a tool for an easier way to check every game hash generated by Provably fair system. It can be nice and much safer.
Yeah and why need to go far while your Signature tells it all ,One of the safest and reputable Site in this forum that 777coin so Playing there won't need to check about the fairness of each bets and results .

I have played in 777coin and Bitvest years back and until now betting once i have a chance .

I think many gamblers check bets not because they don't trust the casino in which they play, but out of simple interest. Tool check plus it is possible to check some statistical indicators. In addition, it is useful to make a check, since a casino can make a mistake not out of bad intentions, but by accident, for example, many casinos used RNG with various flaws before. If you constantly check the bets, then it is possible that some new errors that have not yet been corrected will be discovered.
If there are some flaws in the RNG, you won't need to check the seeds to see it, the bad entropy will reflect on the final results.  Undecided
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I think there is another strong motive for conducting an in-depth study of the "correctness" of the bets and the mechanism of the casino in general. If you find any bugs/something important you can get paid by the casino by providing this information to them, or you can use it in the game to gain an advantage against the casino.

You will probably be paid only if the bug is critical enough or if the casino is conducting a bug search campaign at this moment, otherwise you will just be told "thank you". If I found a bug, I would not use it for the purpose of my own enrichment. This is fraught with the ban of the account and the blocking of all funds, as well as possible criminal prosecution. I believe that it is better to inform the site owners about the found bug.

It depends on how you present this found error. If this is done non-publicly, then I think any casino itself will offer you a reward on the condition that you do not disclose this information. This is a sensitive thing to the casino's reputation and they are interested in hiding it.
This is not absolute correct. Most of bug finders publish about the bug in public to avoid that the website ignore the issue.Because when they connect them in private they will just fix the issue and ignore the one who discovered it claiming that they don't offer a bug bounty program. I am talking in general and not especially about the case here .
I had a white-hacker friend who was sometimes forced to hack a database tomporarly just to prove to owners that it's leacked .
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It depends on how you present this found error. If this is done non-publicly, then I think any casino itself will offer you a reward on the condition that you do not disclose this information. This is a sensitive thing to the casino's reputation and they are interested in hiding it.

The casino will offer a reward for members who found an error, but if they are honest to all members, they will announce it on their site and attract all members to find an error. If they do that, I am sure that the casino's reputation will get better, and they can get more gamblers who will come and join. Sooner or later, the casino will have more members to play gambling on their site.
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I think there is another strong motive for conducting an in-depth study of the "correctness" of the bets and the mechanism of the casino in general. If you find any bugs/something important you can get paid by the casino by providing this information to them, or you can use it in the game to gain an advantage against the casino.

You will probably be paid only if the bug is critical enough or if the casino is conducting a bug search campaign at this moment, otherwise you will just be told "thank you". If I found a bug, I would not use it for the purpose of my own enrichment. This is fraught with the ban of the account and the blocking of all funds, as well as possible criminal prosecution. I believe that it is better to inform the site owners about the found bug.

It depends on how you present this found error. If this is done non-publicly, then I think any casino itself will offer you a reward on the condition that you do not disclose this information. This is a sensitive thing to the casino's reputation and they are interested in hiding it.
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This is some topic I have been wondering how could be verified in the last few weeks.

It is already difficult to beat the odds in a fair game, just imagine if the internal mechanisms of the bet are rigged Huh

Thanks for sharing this information, I hope one day most of the online betting sites apply provably fair mechanisms in their services.

You can verify bets in all good betting sites and you should verify the gambling site is provably fair before depositing your funds. This is particularly necessary if you want to deposit in any new gambling site.
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This is some topic I have been wondering how could be verified in the last few weeks.

It is already difficult to beat the odds in a fair game, just imagine if the internal mechanisms of the bet are rigged Huh

Thanks for sharing this information, I hope one day most of the online betting sites apply provably fair mechanisms in their services.
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I think there is another strong motive for conducting an in-depth study of the "correctness" of the bets and the mechanism of the casino in general. If you find any bugs/something important you can get paid by the casino by providing this information to them, or you can use it in the game to gain an advantage against the casino.

You will probably be paid only if the bug is critical enough or if the casino is conducting a bug search campaign at this moment, otherwise you will just be told "thank you". If I found a bug, I would not use it for the purpose of my own enrichment. This is fraught with the ban of the account and the blocking of all funds, as well as possible criminal prosecution. I believe that it is better to inform the site owners about the found bug.
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I think there is another strong motive for conducting an in-depth study of the "correctness" of the bets and the mechanism of the casino in general. If you find any bugs/something important you can get paid by the casino by providing this information to them, or you can use it in the game to gain an advantage against the casino.
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I think many gamblers check bets not because they don't trust the casino in which they play, but out of simple interest. Tool check plus it is possible to check some statistical indicators. In addition, it is useful to make a check, since a casino can make a mistake not out of bad intentions, but by accident, for example, many casinos used RNG with various flaws before. If you constantly check the bets, then it is possible that some new errors that have not yet been corrected will be discovered.

People tend to doubt and subject everything to close scrutiny. They want to check how honestly their game was played first of all when they lose. Many people may think that if they find errors when checking, they will be able to get their money back.
If a person plays often and many times, then it is unlikely that he will check every game. Perhaps he will only do this at the beginning to make sure that the gambling site is honest.
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Normally i don't check for my seed if the game and website is properly sending my server hash and client hash. Because i usually pick the popular sites from the community, that has no negative feedback about their bettings.
But if there's a tool for an easier way to check every game hash generated by Provably fair system. It can be nice and much safer.
Yeah and why need to go far while your Signature tells it all ,One of the safest and reputable Site in this forum that 777coin so Playing there won't need to check about the fairness of each bets and results .

I have played in 777coin and Bitvest years back and until now betting once i have a chance .

I think many gamblers check bets not because they don't trust the casino in which they play, but out of simple interest. Tool check plus it is possible to check some statistical indicators. In addition, it is useful to make a check, since a casino can make a mistake not out of bad intentions, but by accident, for example, many casinos used RNG with various flaws before. If you constantly check the bets, then it is possible that some new errors that have not yet been corrected will be discovered.

Every system wont be perfect which means there would be flaws but casinos or houses shouldnt let their players do able to find out that error that do really affects fairness because that will surely
create some bad impression once it would come out to public that theyve been playing on a site which do have some technical issues thats why its part of their job on maintaining fairness.

Its impossible for people to make some verifying bets just for their simple interest.Of course we would be mindful on first encounter or usage of the site
if its really fair but some do just depend on number of players and presuming that they are already fair since there
are lots whom do trust them.
legendary
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Normally i don't check for my seed if the game and website is properly sending my server hash and client hash. Because i usually pick the popular sites from the community, that has no negative feedback about their bettings.
But if there's a tool for an easier way to check every game hash generated by Provably fair system. It can be nice and much safer.
Yeah and why need to go far while your Signature tells it all ,One of the safest and reputable Site in this forum that 777coin so Playing there won't need to check about the fairness of each bets and results .

I have played in 777coin and Bitvest years back and until now betting once i have a chance .

I think many gamblers check bets not because they don't trust the casino in which they play, but out of simple interest. Tool check plus it is possible to check some statistical indicators. In addition, it is useful to make a check, since a casino can make a mistake not out of bad intentions, but by accident, for example, many casinos used RNG with various flaws before. If you constantly check the bets, then it is possible that some new errors that have not yet been corrected will be discovered.
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It is fine to be this careful at the beginning when you are trying a casino for the first time but it is not necessary to go to those extremes for the rest of your gambling journey, if you make 200 rolls of a dice in a session as long as you verify 5% to 10% of a random selection of rolls and it turns out to be that everything is in order then you can have a great degree of confidence that things are fine in the casino and that you can keep gambling there with no problem at all.
Carefully will need while you gamble and don't lose that before you end your time playing gambling. We do not need to verify almost all of our bets, but we could only verify some bets, so we don't lose our time to verify the bet. If you can play gambling on a reputable gambling site, you do not need to verify because they will not do something suspicious or even cheat you or other members.
I will have to disagree with you on that point, there are many examples of reputable sites that eventually became scams so it is important to always verify your bets, as I said in my previous post it is not necessary to verify every single bet, as long as you verify some of them, especially those that were bigger and the cases in which you lose several times in a row and everything is fine, then you can keep using that casino but at the first sign of an irregularity you should stop until things get clarified.
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Normally i don't check for my seed if the game and website is properly sending my server hash and client hash. Because i usually pick the popular sites from the community, that has no negative feedback about their bettings.
But if there's a tool for an easier way to check every game hash generated by Provably fair system. It can be nice and much safer.
Yeah and why need to go far while your Signature tells it all ,One of the safest and reputable Site in this forum that 777coin so Playing there won't need to check about the fairness of each bets and results .

I have played in 777coin and Bitvest years back and until now betting once i have a chance .

If you are a whale or a high roller it's important that you check or verify your bets not really all of the bets but a random bets will do so you can trust the gambling site more, but it's time consuming if you are going to verify each bet it will take away the fun, just do random verification, so you will not miss the fun.
But if you are a whale and High rollers for sure you have Names of legit sites to play and wont need for this checking though this is more important for us to find which is legit and whom are not.
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I am a type of a gambler that i used to check the reputation of one casino by just reading the reviews of the casino, its performance and its considerably to the clients or gamblers, legal or registered and allowed to operate legally and no issues were already fine to me. And yes losing in gambling were already a part of it thats why we are here to keep reminder to each and everyone to rake risks only the amount that we are willing to lose just because we didn't know how to plat in provably fair game.

Same here, I trust the site that I'm gambling with so I don't have to check its fairness in every bet I make.
Reputation is very important to them, if they will scam people that will end their profitable business, so do you think they'll do that?

Actually there's plenty of reputable sites here, just gamble with them and you'll be alright, and those sites who have a verifier, they are good to gamble with.

I agree with that. That is why we need to have a trusty gambling site so we don't get any problems or have trouble with anything. We can prevent that thing from happening to us because the casino will not let their members be disappointed, which can affect their reputations. It is not easy to maintain reputations among the other site because the casino needs to let the members prove how the casino treat their members.
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If you are a whale or a high roller it's important that you check or verify your bets not really all of the bets but a random bets will do so you can trust the gambling site more, but it's time consuming if you are going to verify each bet it will take away the fun, just do random verification, so you will not miss the fun.

I am sure big whales when they play since it’s involves big money on losing that amount they might be getting it verified in order to ensure that their is nothing being rigged. For small players who just play for fun might not be the ones who may even bother at times to check since it’s just they play to have a good time and not just to make money from it .
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If you are a whale or a high roller it's important that you check or verify your bets not really all of the bets but a random bets will do so you can trust the gambling site more, but it's time consuming if you are going to verify each bet it will take away the fun, just do random verification, so you will not miss the fun.
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