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Firstly, I don't think its possible for platforms to freeze your account because of consistent deposits, I've only know them to freeze account on suspicion of multiple accounts or you're in restricted countries.  I've never seen consistent deposits as a breach of agreements on their T & C.

Casinos count their gains from your consistent deposits and their loses from your wins that you withdraw, so as long as you continue depositing, you enrich them and they're even happy to see you deposit more, moreover in actual terms, nobody says no to opportunities to make more money.

Now back to your question, when someone's account is  frozen and the person is a desperate person, the platform that  froze his account has just lost a customer, he will go ahead to patronize another casino which will welcome him with open arms. He continues his habit there and life  goes on. The only way I've seen that someone's addiction habits is curbed its by the gambler coming to his senses and putting an end to his addiction, else, there are many ways to do their thing.
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If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?
People can get mad as hell but if they really want to gamble they will find a way to gamble. Especially online, people will just go to another casino or register a new account at the casino that froze their activity.
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There will be reputable casinos who have as their policy the enforcement of responsible gambling. They may not be so rampant but there are. The topic would have been more self explanatory if the OP had listed a few of those casinos that can freeze their customers account on suspicion that they are gambling recklessly.

Casinos that do that are responsible casinos. Because even though the goal is to make money but making money off of the right way and not off of so gambler's silly mistake is no fun. For those who say that the casinos are there to make profit, I want to tell you that neither would they run at a loss if they freeze the account of some gambler who is already showing symptoms of gambling addiction.
Which are those reputable casinos you're mentioning that enforce responsible gambling? Your statement implies that there are, but fail to state which ones they are; it would be useful if you actually mentioned some of them, because I highly doubt that there are any casinos that care whether you're responsible with your money or not. There's no right or wrong way to make money as a casino, when you sign-up on a when you accept their TOS and the possibility of you losing money, you're responsible for your own actions.
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your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order,

Casinos can't freeze an account for such reason and rationally it doesn't make sense, its user's responsibility to handle his money, and casinos provide features to exclude themselves if they feel they are over betting and it even exists because of the regulations or casinos would love people who lose their money to them because that is how they can make money for them.

And I really wonder how a casino can decide a person is spending more money than he do.

This thread doesn't even make sense to me.

That makes sense.
If you are gambling irresponsibly, casinos will not mind whatever you do. If you lose a thousand per minute, they just let you be and will even like that you gamble that way. Never heard of casinos freezing your account all because of that.

There is no way they will freeze your account for gambling away your money, but they may freeze it if you are winning a huge amount and try to withdraw them all. They will sort of ask for so many requirements other than government documents but probably source off funds as well.
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As far as I know, casinos only freeze an account if the gambler has broken the platform's rules, or if he asks for being freezed. The casino itself won't decide what is irresponsible gambling based on subjective factors and clues. If the gambler is constantly making new deposits and losing money, it's not a concern of the casino at all, unless the gambler contacts their support and tell them he is having difficulties to stop playing, so he can demand his account to be freezed. Then I believe it's an obligation for the casino to do so, otherwise it can be considered the casino is taking advantage of a vulnerable individual, in case the gambler takes further action in the court against the platform.

There will be reputable casinos who have as their policy the enforcement of responsible gambling. They may not be so rampant but there are. The topic would have been more self explanatory if the OP had listed a few of those casinos that can freeze their customers account on suspicion that they are gambling recklessly.

Casinos that do that are responsible casinos. Because even though the goal is to make money but making money off of the right way and not off of so gambler's silly mistake is no fun. For those who say that the casinos are there to make profit, I want to tell you that neither would they run at a loss if they freeze the account of some gambler who is already showing symptoms of gambling addiction.
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I wonder what parameters a casino should use to understand that a person is not playing responsibly. Besides, there are thousands of people in the casino; will they babysit every player? If you are an adult, and this is a condition for registration, then you are fully responsible for your actions.
But there is also an answer from a player who has an addiction, and he will also have no restrictions if he thinks about his addiction for a while.


Just use your windows HOSTS file to set the ip's of any gambling sites to 0.0.0.0 and you will never be able to go there again. This is also how I cured my addiction to Primdice many many moons ago. :|


I'm already having some medical/professional help. Blocking the hosts will change nothing, once I can always unblock it back...


The player can be stopped only after his desire to be cured, by making a ban somewhere for him, he will move to another gaming platform.
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If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?
after I understand the problem related to this case, it seems to refer to gambling addicts because they don't have responsibility for their gambling and chase losses continuously.
freezing a gambler's account after being suspected of irresponsible gambling will only be in vain because there are many ways for gambling addicts to continue betting to vent their emotions to chase losses by using other people's accounts or registering for other gambling sites as said by other people here.

one way to temporarily stop a gambling addict is simply to ban all the data he has from being banned from any casino so that the gambling addict will no longer be able to return to betting and registering at another casino.
that's the best way that I know, but it doesn't guarantee that you can stop gambling addicts because as I said, there is always a way.
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your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order,

Casinos can't freeze an account for such reason and rationally it doesn't make sense, its user's responsibility to handle his money, and casinos provide features to exclude themselves if they feel they are over betting and it even exists because of the regulations or casinos would love people who lose their money to them because that is how they can make money for them.

And I really wonder how a casino can decide a person is spending more money than he do.

This thread doesn't even make sense to me.
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Your story touches on a crucial ethical and responsible issue in gambling. I think account freezing is a double-edged sword. It interrupts and forces reflection. Its not only about stopping a spree; its about forcing oneself to reflect. I wonder if this solves the problem.

I believe such treatments work best when people are willing to face their behaviour. Freezing an account may only temporarily deter irresponsible gambling. Does it modify behaviour permanently or just postpone it?

Supporting pleasurable gambling is different from ignoring harm. Casinos and other gaming platforms must secure their consumers' health and safety. Account freezing should be part of a safe gambling approach. Start a discourse that leads to healthier behaviours and choices, not just stop the action.
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The answer to this question is mostly likely not.  It comes down to the age old saying "if there's a will, there's a way".  People that addicted to gambling are going to find ways to gamble no matter what.  If their accounts are frozen they'll simply open new ones (maybe us a VPN) or just go to different gambling outlets.  Let's say they magically got banned from using the internet, then they'd just find places IRL offline.
VPN for what? If gambling is allowed in his country, why using VPN? There are many reputable gambling sites today that he can choose from. Some gambling sites do not even allow VPN. If a gambling site block his account because they know that he is getting addicted to gambling, he can just open an account on another gambling site and continue to gamble. But if we should be sincere, have you seen any gambling site that does that before? I have not seen a gambling site that will block the account of the person that is given them more money and losing it for their own profit. It is good for OP to know that to stop gambling or stop gambling addiction comes from the gamblers mind and not from any form of centralized control.
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Not all casinos do that, although there are, of course every gambler should be able to understand that they are reminding you to stop gambling, even though you can gamble at other casinos, but actually casinos like to see you make gambling deposits at any time, it's just that maybe this feature can help. you to get out of your gambling addiction and bad habit of playing without proper control, after all it doesn't look bad but maybe there are people who find it fun and there are also those who don't.

Actually I have never received a warning like this but I have heard stories from people out there about restrictions that ultimately make casinos freeze gamblers' accounts for some time in order to avoid losing more money in gambling, for casinos it is actually very detrimental but it can be a thing This is a positive thing that must be seen from the perspective of gamblers, after all, why do you have to rush to make a deposit every time? Shouldn't gambling be done responsibly and not excessively? It all comes down to each person's point of view, things will definitely be different.  Cool
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Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

Yes since customers attention will focus on recovering the funds and will help him to cool down. But this is very subjective because how will casino determine if the players is betting frequently due to addiction because some players tend to play small then just deposit partially whenever they lose their bankroll. I will not consider depositing multiple times without knowing the total bankroll of this person.

But assuming the person is indeed addicted. Freezing the account is the right action to stop the addiction. We already witness tons of scam accusation here that related to funds confiscation and all of them spend their time solving their issue rather than continue gambling.
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And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order,....
I would feel furious on that, who are they to judge me, as long as I'm not making trouble on their casino, they should still allow me to gamble and let me manage myself. A gambler would only be called irresponsible when he make an action that could destroy other people's properly or worst hurt them. They don't know me, what if I'm just trying to burn my money because I am having fun, and I could lose as much as I want since I am earning a lot of money.

They (casino) should not cross the line, they have rules, that's the only thing they are focus on implementing it, not "suspecting" someone of being irresponsible.
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If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

No one can stop you from playing if you want to play, there's always other casinos to play so no I don't think freezing a gambler's account will curb addiction as long as there are other alternatives, a compulsive gambler will always find a way, the only way to stop compulsive gambler is through personal intervention and not preventing him from gambling when there are other options to gamble, I have not known a case where an addicted to gambling because he was restricted, that's not how to cure a compulsive gambler.

A compulsive gambler may stop from playing but he will always come back until a professional intervene and laid out a therapy to cure his addiction, many casino have that feature but its a feature they implement as part of their compliancy of making their platform safe from addiction to gambling.
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I don't think gambling casinos would freeze your account for irresponsible gambling unless you request them to stop you personally. I have read some posts about making themselves stop gambling because they know they are addicted. It would not be really effective in the sense that you could just gamble with another casino if you really are itching to gamble. It's still the person's decision where it would really make sense.
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If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?
Did you experience that? I was working in a company where gamblers would sit on our live tables. We had a possibility to report to the management that player had a gambling problem or addiction by clicking on the tab on the screen, them the one responsible for solving those cases would contact the player and have a small chat with them, to ensure whether player really had an addiction or not.
I have always thought that every casino was handling this situation the way I described. I think it is a violation of personal rights to block customers and entitle it as a gambling addiction problem if you didn't have communication with the customer at first.
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If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

Casino will not freeze someones account for that reason and for sure they would love to have a costumer like that since their profit will continue and they would let them play not unless if they do abusive action that break their rules then for sure with that they would freeze or totally ban the account of accused gamblers. Casino owners will not get a damn to stop anyone to gamble since this operator want people to come on their site and play as long as they can. Those messages posted about gambling responsibly reminder is just a post but they don't really mean it since the more extended minutes people to gamble the more money to enter in their business.
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Freezing a wallet never helps to stop addiction but they will lose clients.
But I'm not sure it is because they detected irresponsible gambling because they are supposed to be happy about having you on their platform and make deposits. Maybe for other violations that connect to irresponsible gambling in general. But as I've said and other members, this won't curb addiction as gamblers will search for another site and continue their gambling habits.

Whatever the reason for freezing an account, gamblers never see it as a worrying scenario. Well, the saddest thing is that we can't withdraw our money anymore.
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. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?
Technically the casino doesn't have that legal right to freeze a gambler's account as a result of successive or frequent funding if the account except the user has done anything that violates their ToS of the casino. On the other hand, the casino will be glad that someone is losing money to them and still funding more to lose it in no time, it's therefore in their profit.
It's purely business, that's their mentality, and they don't care if you are losing money because that is the success of their business. If you are losing, the assumption is you are fine because in the first place, when you gamble you agree with the terms and you are matured enough to understand that losing is part of gambling.. If gambling site would freeze to prevent further losses, what would happen if the casino keeps winning, are they gonna freeze it too or just allow them to continue winning, because if they choose to allow it, then they are not operating a business, but they are running a charity.
We both are on same page on this, and you're correct that the casinos are not running a charity organisation and secondly as adult it is believe you are responsible for every action and decisions you chose to take either to keep funding your account after each loss or to restrain from it. Take the individual businessman on the street for instance, if you're selling cigarettes you won't have to start advising your customers to stop smoking as it may damage their lungs, you're leading your business to imminent collapse because they will stop patronizing you and move to the next shop that sales cigarettes.

But to answer your question, freezing of a gamblers' account doesn't guarantee the curbing of irresponsible gambling. In most cases the gambler will go for the available option of opening a new account to use for his gambling immediately instead of waiting for when his account will be unfrozen. In fact such actions without the gamblers knowledge and permission has the tendency to make the gambler to end up with multiple accounts which will likely aggravate his irrespective gambling.
Not only a gambler could create another account but he could choose to play on other gambling sites... Remember that the gambling industry is wide, gamblers could choose in any gambling sites he wants to play with his money.
Just as I used the instance above with a cigarettes business seller, if the casino take such action on their customers they will surely lose patronage and eventually close down because gamblers will make use of the next gambling site that gives them the liberty to gamble as much as they want with their funds.
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for gambling addicts, maybe they will be angry about this and curse at management for their treatment of their account by limiting and freezing the account. they will probably think that this action is unfair to them and maybe they will try to gamble again in another way, either at another casino by opening another account or logging in to an existing account.

or because their money is limited they might stop gambling and try to stay quiet while feeling stressed and annoyed about it.

so it's possible that the casino's actions by restricting one user's account when they don't gamble responsibly might restrict the player from gambling or not at all.
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