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newbie
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December 29, 2014, 05:07:04 AM
The fed is not purchasing additional bonds however they are still holding bonds they previously purchased (and have a larger then usual balance sheet - much larger). They are also manipulating the bond market via their promise to keep short term interest rates low for a very long time (it has been ~5 years so far)

In comments at private appearances, Ben Bernanke has stated that he does not expect interest rates to normalize in his lifetime.  If the rate on the Japanese 10 year went to 2%, all the tax revenue of the Japanese government would not suffice to service the coupon payments.  That is where the U.S. is heading, and it is no secret, merely an unmentionable elephant.  Given that it is unlawful to default on the debt of the U.S. Treasury, the only possible outcome is hyperinflation:  No austerity, no financial repression, no feasible growth will suffice to overcome the magnitude of the debt mountain.  The debatable aspect is the timing of that hyperinflation.  Everyone wants time to roll out of USD before it breaks loose.

 

Please, investors are running from Japan to US. They are incomparable. Do you know what a yield curve is? If you did, you would know that all that doom and gloom you're spreading is not evident at all.

We're fighting deflation, not hyperinflation. No one's "rolling out" of USD, they're flocking to it. Also, Treasury "debt" does not work like corporate or individual debt. It works more like company shares than anything else. That is, when a country's doing good (exporting) it's currency rises in price. That's what's happening to USD. It's getting bought up and the price is skyrocketing.

I'm out of this thread. There's no logic or intelligence here. Just an anti-USD, pseudo-economist, pro gold and BTC, circlejerk.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
December 28, 2014, 07:58:48 PM
The fed is not purchasing additional bonds however they are still holding bonds they previously purchased (and have a larger then usual balance sheet - much larger). They are also manipulating the bond market via their promise to keep short term interest rates low for a very long time (it has been ~5 years so far)

In comments at private appearances, Ben Bernanke has stated that he does not expect interest rates to normalize in his lifetime.  If the rate on the Japanese 10 year went to 2%, all the tax revenue of the Japanese government would not suffice to service the coupon payments.  That is where the U.S. is heading, and it is no secret, merely an unmentionable elephant.  Given that it is unlawful to default on the debt of the U.S. Treasury, the only possible outcome is hyperinflation:  No austerity, no financial repression, no feasible growth will suffice to overcome the magnitude of the debt mountain.  The debatable aspect is the timing of that hyperinflation.  Everyone wants time to roll out of USD before it breaks loose.

 
hero member
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December 28, 2014, 05:06:44 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

What you describe was operation twist. The FED was buying 85 Billions MBS and US bonds a month and they didn't sell any

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
The bond market is being manipulated by the fed via QE as well as the fed's promise to keep short term interest rates low for a long time. There are people speculating that the fed will continue to keep short terms rates low which pushes the market rate for longer term bonds low as well

QE already ended. Please, your right wing fears are entirely unfounded. Go back to hoarding gold and whining about monetary inflation.

The FED didn't unwind its balance sheet and didn't raise rate so we are still in a very lose monetary policy environment with a weak economy. The public debt is still growing fast and the Dollar will likely start crashing in 2015 or 2016

lol, okay. As soon as you start pulling dates out of thin air with no evidence I know you're full of shit. You can spew anti-US FUD, doesn't make it true.


The FED didn't unwind its balance sheet and didn't raise rate so we are still in a very lose monetary policy environment with a weak economy. The public debt is still growing fast  : those are facts we agree on

Yeah, so what? USD is still the world's safest asset.

By the way, I don't think you understand how QE works. The Federal Reserve issued low interest short term bonds to buy back high interest long term bonds. Also, the US is anything but a weak economy. It's been 6 years since recession, get over it.
hero member
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December 28, 2014, 12:58:50 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
The bond market is being manipulated by the fed via QE as well as the fed's promise to keep short term interest rates low for a long time. There are people speculating that the fed will continue to keep short terms rates low which pushes the market rate for longer term bonds low as well

QE already ended. Please, your right wing fears are entirely unfounded. Go back to hoarding gold and whining about monetary inflation.
The fed is not purchasing additional bonds however they are still holding bonds they previously purchased (and have a larger then usual balance sheet - much larger). They are also manipulating the bond market via their promise to keep short term interest rates low for a very long time (it has been ~5 years so far)
newbie
Activity: 28
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December 28, 2014, 07:48:08 AM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
The bond market is being manipulated by the fed via QE as well as the fed's promise to keep short term interest rates low for a long time. There are people speculating that the fed will continue to keep short terms rates low which pushes the market rate for longer term bonds low as well

QE already ended. Please, your right wing fears are entirely unfounded. Go back to hoarding gold and whining about monetary inflation.

The FED didn't unwind its balance sheet and didn't raise rate so we are still in a very lose monetary policy environment with a weak economy. The public debt is still growing fast and the Dollar will likely start crashing in 2015 or 2016

lol, okay. As soon as you start pulling dates out of thin air with no evidence I know you're full of shit. You can spew anti-US FUD, doesn't make it true.


The FED didn't unwind its balance sheet and didn't raise rate so we are still in a very lose monetary policy environment with a weak economy. The public debt is still growing fast  : those are facts we agree on

Yeah, so what? USD is still the world's safest asset.

By the way, I don't think you understand how QE works. The Federal Reserve issued low interest short term bonds to buy back high interest long term bonds. Also, the US is anything but a weak economy. It's been 6 years since recession, get over it.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
December 27, 2014, 06:44:42 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
The bond market is being manipulated by the fed via QE as well as the fed's promise to keep short term interest rates low for a long time. There are people speculating that the fed will continue to keep short terms rates low which pushes the market rate for longer term bonds low as well

QE already ended. Please, your right wing fears are entirely unfounded. Go back to hoarding gold and whining about monetary inflation.

The FED didn't unwind its balance sheet and didn't raise rate so we are still in a very lose monetary policy environment with a weak economy. The public debt is still growing fast and the Dollar will likely start crashing in 2015 or 2016

lol, okay. As soon as you start pulling dates out of thin air with no evidence I know you're full of shit. You can spew anti-US FUD, doesn't make it true.


The FED didn't unwind its balance sheet and didn't raise rate so we are still in a very lose monetary policy environment with a weak economy. The public debt is still growing fast  : those are facts we agree on
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
December 27, 2014, 05:41:52 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
The bond market is being manipulated by the fed via QE as well as the fed's promise to keep short term interest rates low for a long time. There are people speculating that the fed will continue to keep short terms rates low which pushes the market rate for longer term bonds low as well

QE already ended. Please, your right wing fears are entirely unfounded. Go back to hoarding gold and whining about monetary inflation.

The FED didn't unwind its balance sheet and didn't raise rate so we are still in a very lose monetary policy environment with a weak economy. The public debt is still growing fast and the Dollar will likely start crashing in 2015 or 2016

lol, okay. As soon as you start pulling dates out of thin air with no evidence I know you're full of shit. You can spew anti-US FUD, doesn't make it true.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
December 27, 2014, 03:42:48 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
The bond market is being manipulated by the fed via QE as well as the fed's promise to keep short term interest rates low for a long time. There are people speculating that the fed will continue to keep short terms rates low which pushes the market rate for longer term bonds low as well

QE already ended. Please, your right wing fears are entirely unfounded. Go back to hoarding gold and whining about monetary inflation.

The FED didn't unwind its balance sheet and didn't raise rate so we are still in a very lose monetary policy environment with a weak economy. The public debt is still growing fast and the Dollar will likely start crashing in 2015 or 2016
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
December 27, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
The bond market is being manipulated by the fed via QE as well as the fed's promise to keep short term interest rates low for a long time. There are people speculating that the fed will continue to keep short terms rates low which pushes the market rate for longer term bonds low as well

QE already ended. Please, your right wing fears are entirely unfounded. Go back to hoarding gold and whining about monetary inflation.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
December 27, 2014, 02:54:35 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
The bond market is being manipulated by the fed via QE as well as the fed's promise to keep short term interest rates low for a long time. There are people speculating that the fed will continue to keep short terms rates low which pushes the market rate for longer term bonds low as well
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
December 27, 2014, 02:48:54 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?

You realize the difference between the bond market that has been fixed by the FED and its policies and the official interest rate. You should not comment on subjects you know nothing about, you are embarrassing yourself.
newbie
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Merit: 0
December 27, 2014, 02:29:21 PM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero

You do realize there's a bond market, right?
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
December 27, 2014, 11:34:15 AM
dollar is the one only good for investment

It has been a good investment sometimes but it is one of the worst investment among the big choices an investor has right now

USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.

The FED is keeping the interest rate at zero
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
December 27, 2014, 11:05:34 AM
USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.

USD interest rate is low right now because Asian and European investors don't want to invest in those markets. Japan's economy is tanking fast and Greece is starting to spread contagion fears throughout Europe. Money is flooding into US bonds. As bonds get purchased, their prices rise. When their prices rise, yields decrease, due to the fixed coupon payments. As a result, US interest rates are flat, just because of the rush of foreign capital.
sr. member
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December 27, 2014, 03:29:22 AM
dollar is the one only good for investment
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sr. member
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December 26, 2014, 10:10:48 PM
USD Interest rate has been maintained too low for a long time and it looks like there is a pressure within to hike the rates or else overall it is will be bad in long term.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
December 26, 2014, 07:44:15 PM
Unfortunately these pieces of paper crush any other form of currency for now.

As a store of wealth, they stink on ice.  Guaranteed rocket sled to zero value.

Little temporary rises relative to other worthless paper are irrelevant to that inescapable, horrible fact:  You have been enslaved in exchange for...nothing.
newbie
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December 26, 2014, 10:45:16 AM
I consider that from now, Dollar will become, (naturally in very slow way) only paper to clean something.. Because FED printing huge quantity of dollar and its value now dropping..

usd = pieces of printed paper backed by military that will nuke oil-countries that don't want to accept it for oil.

These pieces of printed paper also have to be given to the government as taxes.
So there is a large economy willing to work for these pieces of paper.
Unfortunately these pieces of paper crush any other form of currency for now.

Their value is decreasing and Bitcoin may be adopted massively to stop wars and increase freedom.

Has anybody in this thread ever looked at or even heard of the dollar index? https://www.tradingview.com/e/?symbol=DOLLAR+INDEX

It's strong as hell right now. The simple fact is, not gold, not BTC, but USD is the world's safe haven store of wealth. You can see this by bond prices skyrocketing (yields falling).

Commodities are generally correlated. That's why BTC and oil are sharing a bit of correlation. Ultimately, commodity prices are set by the world economy. There's European and Asian fear in the markets now, hence prices fall as demand wanes.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
December 25, 2014, 12:32:53 PM
I consider that from now, Dollar will become, (naturally in very slow way) only paper to clean something.. Because FED printing huge quantity of dollar and its value now dropping..

usd = pieces of printed paper backed by military that will nuke oil-countries that don't want to accept it for oil.

These pieces of printed paper also have to be given to the government as taxes.
So there is a large economy willing to work for these pieces of paper.
Unfortunately these pieces of paper crush any other form of currency for now.

Their value is decreasing and Bitcoin may be adopted massively to stop wars and increase freedom.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 509
December 25, 2014, 11:46:05 AM
I consider that from now, Dollar will become, (naturally in very slow way) only paper to clean something.. Because FED printing huge quantity of dollar and its value now dropping..

usd = pieces of printed paper backed by military that will nuke oil-countries that don't want to accept it for oil.

These pieces of printed paper also have to be given to the government as taxes.
So there is a large economy willing to work for these pieces of paper.
Unfortunately these pieces of paper crush any other form of currency for now.
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