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Are they gonna shoot some civil airplanes?

LOL, no... only the Ukies are desperate enough to shoot civilian airplanes because they were commanded by their bankrupt masters (you know, the UKies are so stupid they can't distinguish a bankrupt master when they see one  Cheesy). Just watch.. . you see, the bankrupt master of the Ukies love to commit heinous crimes like the downing of a civilian airplane, the bombing of the Twin Towers in New York, bombing by drones of women & children in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya etc. because it loves to intimidate to pretend it is the most powerful. But look, nobody is afraid anymore... everybody is just laughing at its tricks like the corny dollar outflows, the rib-tickling decrease in oil price, etc. Everybody knows it is bankrupt so everyody knows it is just groping for something to intimidate... so everybody is just waiting for it to realize nobody is taking it seriously anymore...

 Cheesy


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Are they gonna shoot some civil airplanes?
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hahaha! SovietDoge posted this - totally relevant to this forum and this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk-9D-cmTvw
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm6rGJIiv6Q

Svoboda' "activists" got asses kicked in the Madrid Cheesy



That must be a big wake-up kick to the fascist Ukies. Cheesy

Imagine going to Spain itself and strong arm the Spaniards themselves in Spain just like what they're doing in intimidating and silencing the people of UKraine itself. It's good they were beaten by the Spanish students or these jerks would have thrown the students into bins just like they threw MP's  into trash bins in Ukraine itself.

http://www.larepublica.es/2014/10/agresion-neonazi-en-la-universidad-complutense-de-madrid/

Well, everything is crumbling with the Ukies. Economically. Politically. Militarily.  Cheesy

FOREIGN-EXCHANGE RESERVES (AS OF SEPTEMBER , 2014)

RUSSIA                 454,240,000,000.00
GERMANY              206,275,000,000.00
FRANCE                154,392,000,000.00
ITALY                   152,007,000,000.00
UNITED KINGDOM   142,094,000,000.00
UNITED STATES     138,139,000,000.00
UKRAINE                16,070,000,000.00


That's the funniest thing, the Ukies actually think they are popular just because they got hitched with the collapsing bankrupt Western powers. Now they know they actually are hated...

But in a way, we should thank the stupidity of the Ukies. They dragged the Anglo-Zionist villains to the trash with them who are really flailing now with desperation... Cheesy


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Five eerie similarities between “pro-ruSSian rebels” in East Ukraine and ISIS



In 2014, the West was faced with several major international crises, the most notable of which are the spread of ISIS in Iraq and Syria and the Moscow-backed insurgency in Eastern Ukraine, which eventually escalated into a full-blown aggression. Yet while the ISIS threat is met with a firm response, both militarily and diplomatically (air strikes and official designations as terrorists), the response to separatists fighting the Ukrainian government has been incomparably milder, going as far as appeals for a peaceful resolution of the conflict issued by world leaders. Even though the exact naming of the armed separatist groups differs significantly in Western media, the tendency is to call gunmen in Ukraine “rebels,” rather than the more negative “militants,” left to ISIS. However, there are facts that suggest that the two groups have a lot more in common than the world would like to believe.

We are not aiming to prove the Donetsk and Luhansk Republics and the Islamic state are the same thing. There is obviously a difference in the scale of atrocities, yet the similarities suggest that a change of Western attitude may be in order.

Execution and torture videos

Probably the most shocking development in the ISIS crisis was the beheading of as many as five people, proudly videotaped and posted on the Internet. Those videos have sparked international outrage. An attempt to emulate such medieval atrocity was undertaken in the east Ukrainian town of Horlivka. The local “rebel” commander and suspected Russian intelligence operative Igor Bezler posted a video of alleged execution of two Ukrainian POWs with a threat to execute more each hour, unless Kyiv released captured separatist militants. This attempt at propaganda was later debunked by multiple sources. However, later Bezler at least once threatened to execute a British journalist attempting to interview him. Photos and videos with evidence of torture have appeared during the 6-month conflict.

However, the video channels of the militants feature videos of tortured Ukrainian POWs quite often, one of the particularly gruesome being an interrogation of a dying Aidar fighter (warning, 18+).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p6mKwFFBm28

Humiliating prisoners on video is also widespread, as seen in the recent video published by The “Republic of Novorossiya” channel – a presumed Ukrainian volunteer fighter being tied to a lamp post in the East Ukrainian town of Zuhres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vrru9QWTSP4


Human rights abuse

While the “rebels” in Ukraine don’t have a habit of taping the worst of their atrocities, that doesn’t mean they do not happen. Human Rights Watch has documented widespread detainment and torture of civilians and members of the press by separatists. Evidence of executions has also surfaced with the discovery of a mass grave in the town of Sloviansk weeks after Ukrainian government reestablished control over the area. This widespread persecution of dissenting voices and journalists echoes ISIS activities in the captured regions of Iraq, if lacking in scale. Various evidence also suggests the separatists use human shields by establishing firing positions in residential buildings and shell residential areas to shift the blame on Ukrainian forces.

Recently, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) began the process of identifying locations of concentration camps and mass graves created by the militants in Donbas and even placing them on a map. The advisor to the SBU drew a parallel with the events of twenty years ago in mass concentration camps in Srebrenica (Bosnia and Herzegovina), where violent and inhumane treatment was also performed, noting that the judiciary system has been replaced by retaliatory troikas that imprison people without charge or trial, torture them in basement cellars, and execute prisoners by shooting. Former POWs tell gruesome stories of their imprisonment, and militants themselves tell of terror, racketeering, rapes during interrogations.

Religious fundamentalism

ISIS, like many other terrorist organizations, is motivated by a radical religious doctrine, attracting followers from all over the world. While ISIS’s particular brand of Islam has been condemned by Muslim clerics all over the world, they consider their religion the only true one and will not hesitate to brutally persecute followers of others. Again, we find striking similarities in the insurgency in eastern Ukraine, where one unit is actually called Russian Orthodox Army, bearing disturbing ties with ultra-orthodox nationalists in Russia-proper and being obsessed with “reconquering” of Ukraine. This fundamentalism, condemned by the Ukrainian branch of the Russian Orthodox Church, goes beyond rhetoric, with widespread evictions, kidnappings, murders and denial of worship against Protestants, Catholics and Ukrainian Orthodox worshippers independent from Moscow. According to New York Times, the rebels view “Orthodox Christianity as a force to unite these now divided Slavic lands and also their own fractured movement”.



Redrawing national borders

One of the striking things about ISIS is their blatant disregard of nation’s borders agreed by international law, their immediate aim being to unite Sunni-inhabited lands across Iraq and Syria. Even more outrageous are ISIS claims of the whole Muslim world evidenced by their propaganda. Likewise, the separatists in East Ukraine stretch their claims to the entirety of the historical regions of Novorossiya, currently the South-eastern regions of Ukraine, despite the population of the area being cold to the idea at best. This dismemberment of Ukraine is a part of a broader vision of a “Russian World from Vladivostok to Brest,” implying violating the territorial integrity of many post-Soviet states (including Belarus, the Baltics, and Kazakhstan) to unite all the Russian-speaking territories under one banner.

Reign of terror


The few reports that emerge from ISIS-occupied territories bring stories of strict Sharia law and lack of basic services like electricity and running water, the locals scared into submission. Likewise, the large swaths of eastern Ukraine under “rebel” control see an emerging police state turning life into a nightmare for the few remaining pro-Ukrainians there. Recently, Luhansk separatist authorities reportedly criminalized homosexuality in defense of “Christian values.” Life for separatist supporters isn’t easy either – shortages of running water, power, and even food are widespread. The humanitarian aid may not be much help, with sources reporting it being stolen and then sold in local stores.

Essentially, 2014 saw the rise of two religious fundamentalist groups aiming to redraw national borders and impose a regime of fear and persecution against minorities, characteristic with violent propaganda and threats towards the integrity of multiple countries. However, while ISIS faces a broad military coalition of European and Middle Eastern states, Ukraine is denied as much as defensive weapons to counter the threat and is expected to conduct a peace process with the very “rebels” that have been abusing and killing Ukrainians for half a year. Changing this strikingly different attitude requires more than one article, but at least the readers would be doing Ukraine a favor if they at least stop calling the terrorists “rebels.”

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/10/11/5-eerie-similarities-between-pro-russian-rebels-in-east-ukraine-and-isis/
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You read in Anglo-Zionist propaganda that collapsing countries with far less foreign reserve but mountains of debt are actually pretending to intimidate a country who can ignore them for years and still have money to spare while they crash...

Russia's debt to GDP ratio is less than 20%, compared to more than 300% in the United States. Even if the recent dip in crude prices will deliver a small setback, Russia is in a much better financial condition right now when compared to its rivals.
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What's so laughable with this list? Cheesy

FOREIGN-EXCHANGE RESERVES (AS OF sePTEMBER 14, 2014)


RUSSIA                 454,240,000,000.00
GERMANY              206,275,000,000.00
FRANCE                154,392,000,000.00
ITALY                   152,007,000,000.00
UNITED KINGDOM   142,094,000,000.00
UNITED STATES     138,139,000,000.00
UKRAINE                16,070,000,000.00


SOURCE: IMF


So, what is laughable with the list?

You read in Anglo-Zionist propaganda that collapsing countries with far less foreign reserve but mountains of debt are actually pretending to intimidate a country who can ignore them for years and still have money to spare while they crash...

.. these bankrupt clowns  were actually threatening to deny financing... as if they were even needed...

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what most newly emerged ukrainian nationalists dont realise is the way they are ruining the reputation of their people. these days they come across as total douchebags and make intelligent people who consider themselves ukrainian ashamed to admit their origins. only minority actually understand what has been happening to their state for the past 25 years, though the masses are completely clueless and will go along with the crowd refusing to turn on their intellect. this trend will continue until those few redicalised bad apples are removed from the society. this rising oligarcho-fascist state greatly reduces freedom of ordinary citizens while leaving the ruling class untouched removing all the competition.
by the way russia also had period like this for many years (1917~1933) total anarchy, gangs (bolsheviks) terrorising the masses etc. when stalin managed to seize power from them he understood that its pointless to reason with those kind of people so he exterminated the top leaders of this destructive movement and sent all the supporters of that power to gulags - making them useful in labour. funny enough solzhenitsyn, being victim of repressions after living through 1991 admitted in late nineties that stalin's decision was a correct one. If he lived through 1917 he too would support stalin’s clean-up operation, although I must admit it was executed in a very rough manner.
soviet union had a recent coup in 1991 which brought to power oligarchs (new bolsheviks). as a result people had enough of the corruption and destructive influence to society they brought along with western values. now its putin who dares to make clean-up procedure. history repeating itself but people are so blind to notice - shame.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm6rGJIiv6Q

Svoboda' "activists" got asses kicked in the Madrid Cheesy
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Yep, this forum urgently needs some kind of karma counters. Just to cut off these clowns away from politics & society  Cheesy
DarkForces, Ukraine is also ex-Soviet Union (pseudo) country. The planet of apes? Yes, definitely it is Ukraine today.

Now on topic.
Novorossiya map as of 9th of October:



Full-size:
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/dragon_first_1/72271520/25632/25632_original.jpg
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Congratulations. Couple of you loonies finally managed to turn this thread into the kindergarten playground. Enjoy it, kids.
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Has the Russian Investigative Committee opened the case already into the genocide of the ruble? USD-RUB 40.3519



http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR


The post-Soviet Ape/Human hybrids I call KKKremlinites

should trade their rubles in for bananas. They'll get a better exchange rate! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Soviet School Bus, circa 1983



If USD-RUB is 40.3519

and bananas are $1.99 a pound

and a typical banana weighs 3/4 pound,

then (40x2)/.75= 60 rubles

so....1 Banana = 60 Rubles Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Thats a GREAT fucking deal.....................
on THE PLANET OF THE ex-SOVIET APES!!!!!
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Myshownow ^^ when he realizes
he will not have enough money (or bananas)
to attend the Special Olympics





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myshownow's VERY SUPPORTIVE, older boyfriend
They will have their own PRIVATE Special Olympics this year....
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Has the Russian Investigative Committee opened the case already into the genocide of the ruble? USD-RUB 40.3519



http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR
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Hmm. You toss the word SLAVE around a bit much,

do you realize this is a word that is etymologically descended from SLAV?

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slave

http://foreigndispatches.typepad.com/dispatches/2004/10/slav_an_etymolo.html

And your use of it perpetuates a negative historical memory to those who remember history?

Your idealized world is made of masters and slaves, please allow us to cleanse it with FIRE free of charge.  Wink
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THE FUNNIEST WAR IN HISTORY:   Cheesy Cheesy Grin


THE SLAVE:
Well, the slave UKraine is poor... besides that, it is already bankrupt, and well on its way of becoming a basket base like Libya & Iraq... just a poor country with mostly stupid people...

But at least, it must have had a little common sense to, at least, find a master who can help it get out of its hole, you ask?

1) A master who must be so rich that it has extra money to help it at least be at level with Kazakhstan or Belarus... Well, Russia is too big, it would be too laughable if it even dreams of comparing itself to its giant neighbor which is 10x bigger in GDP though Russia is only 3x bigger in population... besides that, it has only 0.1% of the debt of the slave's master

2) A master who must have so powerful a military it wins all its wars like those in Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc....

3) A master must have so powerful propaganda machine which can control the narrative because it has all the moral rectitude expected of a leader..

SO, WAS THE THE MASTER EQUAL TO THE TASKHuhHuh!!!!!!!!

LOL, Sorry to say, Folks... a big FAIL to all those. Cheesy

1) The master is bankrupt  Cheesy
2) The master lost all its wars except for the Normandy landing, according to the top German business paper, Handelsblatt.  Cheesy
3) The master's  propaganda rats are jumping ship because they can see it sinking  Cheesy


Let's review what I wrote before:

THE MASTER VILLAINS


Well, I told you it's karma...

First, ECONOMICALLY, the villains are fast crumbling:  Cheesy

Look at this... the countries which had the delusion of sanctioning Russia are all in triple-dip  recession...  

Europe, including Germany

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/europes-triple-dip-recession-arrives-german-industrial-production-crashes-most-febru

Japan

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/japan-admits-it-has-entered-triple-dip-recession

US

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-09/saxobank-cio-end-us-dominance

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-09/not-just-largest-economy-%E2%80%93-here-are-26-other-ways-china-has-surpassed-america

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-08/end-empire


So, the only weapon left to them is the propaganda machine. They have a powerful propaganda machine , right?

LOL, NOW no more. The rats are jumping off the sinking ship, FOLKS!

The Propaganda machine is dead...

BREAKING: CIA Asset & Reporter Spills the Beans, Confessing: All WESTERN MAINSTREAM NEWS IS FAKE!



A top German Journalist and Editor Dr. Udo Ulfkatte has just gone public with some shocking admissions. He basically admitted what all of us who read the alternative media such as BeforeItsNews have known for a long time – the entire mainstream media is totally fake! He went into a very detailed talk in this video and spilled the beans about everything!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Wh77wt1o


See, I told you, the UKraine fiasco has become the biggest comedy of all time... both the masters and slave are ultimate comedians...

 Cheesy


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I know that it is useless to argue with a bot, but coal cost is 30$/tn (600$ per whole 20tn truck). Nobody (except maidan-brained ukrainian propaganda bots) would transport cheap and dirty coal by trucks, especially to Russia (remind about gas?)

And to add to that, Russia is a net exporter of coal. Transporting coal by trucks is not economically viable, and that is why railway is having a complete monopoly on the coal transport. But as you said... it is useless to argue with idiots.
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ruSSian thugs stealing resources from Ukraine - OSCE confirms Russian truck convoys transporting coal out of Luhansk Region

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/10/08/osce-confirms-russian-truck-convoys-transporting-coal-out-of-luhansk-region/




I know that it is useless to argue with a bot, but coal cost is 30$/tn (600$ per whole 20tn truck). Nobody (except maidan-brained ukrainian propaganda bots) would transport cheap and dirty coal by trucks, especially to Russia (remind about gas?)
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DarkForces, why do you posting Obama pictures here?  Cool
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