Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 129. (Read 734725 times)

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Curiously, Tomishenko has come out of political hibernation, during which she let Poroshenko to harvest all the "honours" of implementing the plans she voiced for killing all the Russians in the East of Ukraine.

Now she said that she is going to go to Russia to support during the criminal trial (and say a few words to Putin in the process) the female soldier who was a spotter for the Ukrainian artillery and who allegedly pointed the fire to a column with refugees, killing two Russian journalists in the process.

This is a PR stunt as Timoshenko herself is wanted in Russia on several criminal charges and not possessing any diplomatic immunity, she would most probably be arrested as soon as she sets foot on Russian soil.

And a joke/anecdote that is circulating nowadays:

*) Baba Yaga is a evil old witch of the Russian fairy tales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga). An interesting bit of historic trivia, not mentioned in the Wikipedia: Baba Yaga's name apparently has its roots in the period when Russia was occupied by Tatar-Mongol hordes, and she was male. The initial name comes from a Babaj-aga, a Turkic word for a chieftain. Children were put fright on with: "If you don't behave, will give you to Babaj-Aga" (http://old-fox.livejournal.com/148248.html)

To victory!
Дo пoбeдe!
Для пoбeды!

Donetsk and Lugansk's citizens are brave people. Let's wish them luck.

So instead of offering specifics, you dole out platitudes.  Great, that's a big help.   

Refusal of unproven points is the correct default stance, because presumption is negative.  Sorry it that makes you "tired."  Try taking a nap.

you know im kinda tired of proving my points here for those who refuse it by default in any case. all i can recommend you to do is to no trust the "offical" version. that applies to most events.

I always examine the political context prior to military phases.  After all, war is politics by other means.

My facile understanding is that the Marxist vanguard attempted to effect a coup in Korea, which was put down by the loyalists, but then reenforced from abroad by the Comintern.  If you can offer additional insight, even/especially in the form of corrections to my limited knowledge, I would be grateful.

Thanks in advance,

-iB

icebreaker. your statment about korean conflict is correct. though you failed to mention the reasons why that war started and whose interests provoked north to fight south.

the biggest fail of most sheeple when they study history of conflicts is that they believe that everything starts from military phase - its not true in 99% of cases.

Frankly, tell your mother to reread what you wrote and ask her if that wasn't the logic of one with an IQ of .001.  


Btw, quit pretending an American, as if that would give you credibility. Your choice of words betray your lack of education. You must be a Ukie posing as one or the US is doomed it could produce somebody with a "confused" logic like you.

Half of my family are American citizens but I opted not to be one. NO need. Why? ..because of morality (besides the obvious fact it is bankrupt, that is)....Let me repost...


THe fact some countries  became well-off depended on the local people, because if the meddling of America is really a guarantee for progress, so many countries would have developed because it has meddled in so many countries. From what I know, the most heinous crimes (MH17 bombing is one) were committed under its name, and its meddling has produced such basket cases like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Haiti,  Latin America is filled with basket cases after those unending coup d'etat, etc. Too long to mention here, unfortunately.
  
In fairness to the US military, I have this gut feeling the soldiers, who mostly come from the low-income sheeple families, know they are not serving America but the gangsters who have taken over America- and gambling their lives to perpetuate the crimes done in the name of America is a big load to their conscience. I actually hope they will turn their guns to their Mafia masters instead.

YOu are being used like Mafia henchmen guys, go for it, liberate America from the gangsters who are "possessing" it!!

 

No, sorry, you fail again.  America could tolerate the existence of the DPRK precisely because of its powerful military, and the necessity of maintaining the balance of terror to avoid MAD with the other superpower.

So now you are claiming America is not a superpower?  Wow, you are even more delusional than your previous lunacy already indicated.  

We love you, Mr. Kremlin Information Minister!

If America is such a powerful military like its hype is supposed to convince everybody, there would have been no DPRK in the first place.

Let me repost where you cut off:

THe fact some countries  became well-off depended on the local people, because if the meddling of America is really a guarantee for progress, so many countries would have developed because it has meddled in so many countries. From what I know, the most heinous crimes (MH17 bombing is one) were committed under its name, and its meddling has produced such basket cases like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Haiti,  Latin America is filled with basket cases after those unending coup d'etat, etc. Too long to mention here, unfortunately.
 
In fairness to the US military, I have this gut feeling the soldiers, who mostly come from the low-income sheeple families, know they are not serving America but the gangsters who have taken over America- and gambling their lives to perpetuate the crimes done in the name of America is a big load to their conscience. I actually hope they will turn their guns to their Mafia masters instead.

YOu are being used like Mafia henchmen guys, go for it, liberate America from the gangsters who are "possessing" it!!

 

Yes, the success of South Korea is due to the hard work and intelligence of the South Korean people, who came back from nothing after the belligerent Maoist Chinese and Marxist Russians destroyed their tiny mostly harmless country.

But absent US intervention, they would have had that opportunity stolen from them, like their miserable cousins in the Stalinist DPRK.

Not all (and not even most) victories are "flawless victories."  Many, if not most, are Pyrrhic.

Being able to rescue the South, while avoiding escalation to a nuclear WW3, is a good enough outcome to label a victory.

At worst, the Korean War resulted in a stalemate.  To call it a failure or defeat only show that you are not a reasonable person (as do your tinfoil hat BS rants).  America got a solid foothold on the landmass of Eurasia, to the great consternation of Moscow and Beijing.  No wonder you are so butthurt about it that you can't think straight.   

Wow, very long puff of air .. and were you hoping you were able to waylay us from the main topic? Those you mentioned didn't erase the fact America failed militarily in all those wars. America, despite the big Shock-and-Awe Hype sorrounding its military (which it uses to extort the world) actually failed in its wars, MILITARILY. The proof of the pudding is the eating- it failed to prevail.

THe fact some countries  became well-off depended on the local people, because if the meddling of America is really a guarantee for progress, so many countries would have developed because it has meddled in so many countries. From what I know, the most heinous crimes (MH17 bombing is one) were committed under its name, and its meddling has produced such basket cases like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Haiti,  Latin America is filled with basket cases after those unending coup d'etat, etc. Too long to mention here, unfortunately.

 

In fairness to the US military, I have this gut feeling the soldiers, who mostly come from the low-income sheeple families, know they are not serving America but the gangsters who have taken over America- and gambling their lives to perpetuate the crimes done in the name of America is a big load to their conscience. I actually hope they will turn their guns to their Mafia masters instead.

 

Korea was a failure?  In what way?  We saved Seoul and the South from the red hordes of combined Chinese ground troops and Russian air force, while managing to avoid a nuclear WW3.   

Today S. Korea is an technological and industrial powerhouse, thanks to the 50k Americans who gave their lives to push back the Marxist barbarians.

Strategically, it serves as a knife to the throat of both Asian Great Powers and a tripwire capable of unleashing its own fury (Samsung drones, Hyundai tanks, Daewoo subs, hacker clans, "Invincible" ROKMC Ghost-catchers, etc.) if triggered.

It's a pity we could not also liberate the North, where they have endured 60 years of starvation and tyranny while serving as unwilling pawns for Beijing and Moscow.  But that Iron Curtain will fall sooner or later.

You actually believe that the land of VW, BMW, and Mercedes can't fix a few broken toys (or build better next-gen ones) if they really wanted to?  Please, spare us such nonsense.  They make world-class deadly silent subs for Israel, FFS.

If you think the Germans are not a threat to Russian plans for expansionism, go read some history books.  They pushed the Soviets back to the Urals not very long ago, and only American assistance/intervention (Lend-lease Act, Op Overlord) saved the Kremlin so it could live to continue its oppression for generations to come. 

The only reason we didn't let Patton push the Bolshevik scum all the way back into Lake Baikal was the need for a counterweight to China (and politics, as Americans were tired of war).

It is unwise to poke the Bear, but awakening the Sleeping Giant is an even more dangerous mistake...just ask Japan if you don't believe me!

He also has nothing to say about the shelling that actually hit the schools in donetsk and killed civilians/students.

Logic is not his strong suit.

pagan. do you realise that after six months of shelling from around airport nobody lives there anymore? would you?

The ruSSian army in Ukraine have no qualms about using a school for cover in military ops against Ukraine's army

ruSSian army uses a residential area for base / cover for tree T72 tanks to attack Dontesk airport 4thOct