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Ah, German journalists and ZeroHedge- real solid sources there.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You need new material. You have been saying the west is crumbling FOR A LONG TIME NOW.

I think we can rely on you to notify us when we are finally "crumbled"  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Perhaps your soviet ape/human hybridization has affected your thought processes.

Chill out, have a banana!!! We'll come around and fix your wagons, eventually, have no fear.  Cool Cool Grin




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THE BIGGEST LAUGH OF THE CENTURY: THE VILLAINS ARE FAST CRUMBLING, FOLKS!



Well, I told you it's karma...


First, ECONOMICALLY, the vilLains are fast crumbling: Cheesy

Here's what I wrote before:

Look at this... the countries which had the delusion of sanctioning Russia are all in triple-dip  recession...  


Europe, including Germany

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/europes-triple-dip-recession-arrives-german-industrial-production-crashes-most-febru


Japan

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/japan-admits-it-has-entered-triple-dip-recession


The US, of course, has all its data manipulated, relying on printing money  to paper up its collapse, but as the manipulated stock market (its main propaganda instrument to brag it is recovering) are shooting up because of the excess printed money, all the other data revealed a crumbling REAL economy, the consumption data of the hard-up populace plummeting, the people who should be working but can't find work have reached 100 million Americans (you can see how it falsifies its data because it doesn't include in its official unemployment rates those who STOPPED looking for work because of too long unemployment so the official data actually decreased while poverty increased because of too many people with no work), etc. This is beyond recession, obviously, because beyond the data manipulation, it is collapsing...


So, the only weapon left to them is the propaganda machine. They have a powerful propaganda machine , right?

LOL, NOW no more. The rats are jumping off the sinking ship, FOLKS!

The Propaganda machine is dead...

BREAKING: CIA Asset & Reporter Spills the Beans, Confessing: All WESTERN MAINSTREAM NEWS IS FAKE!



A top German Journalist and Editor Dr. Udo Ulfkatte has just gone public with some shocking admissions. He basically admitted what all of us who read the alternative media such as BeforeItsNews have known for a long time – the entire mainstream media is totally fake! He went into a very detailed talk in this video and spilled the beans about everything!


http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/10/reporter-spills-the-beans-and-admits-all-the-news-is-fake-video-3040904.html

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Wh77wt1o


 Cheesy

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BREAKING: CIA Asset & Reporter Spills the Beans, Confessing: All WESTERN MAINSTREAM NEWS IS FAKE!


A top German Journalist and Editor Dr. Udo Ulfkatte has just gone public with some shocking admissions. He basically admitted what all of us who read the alternative media such as BeforeItsNews have known for a long time – the entire mainstream media is totally fake! He went into a very detailed talk in this video and spilled the beans about everything!

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/10/reporter-spills-the-beans-and-admits-all-the-news-is-fake-video-3040904.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Wh77wt1o

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ruSSian thugs stealing resources from Ukraine - OSCE confirms Russian truck convoys transporting coal out of Luhansk Region

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/10/08/osce-confirms-russian-truck-convoys-transporting-coal-out-of-luhansk-region/


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Luhansk, Ukraine: City of Ghosts



http://mashable.com/2014/10/08/luhansk-ghost-town/

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THE BIGGEST LAUGH OF THE YEAR



Talking about karma...

Or could it be that comedians will always be comedians...

Look at this... the countries which had the delusion of sanctioning Russia are all in triple-dip  recession...  Cheesy


Europe, including Germany

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/europes-triple-dip-recession-arrives-german-industrial-production-crashes-most-febru


Japan

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/japan-admits-it-has-entered-triple-dip-recession


The US, of course, has all its data manipulated, relying on printing money  to paper up its collapse, but as the manipulated stock market (its main propaganda instrument to brag it is recovering) are shooting up because of the excess printed money, all the other data revealed a crumbling REAL economy, the consumption data of the hard-up populace plummeting, the people who should be working but can't find work have reached 100 million Americans (you can see how it falsifies its data because it doesn't include in its official unemployment rates those who STOPPED looking for work because of too long unemployment so the official data actually decreased while poverty increased because of too many people with no work), etc. This is beyond recession, obviously, because beyond the data manipulation, it is collapsing...

 Grin

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Just to put things into perspective... while the Anglo-Zionist propaganda press focused on the alleged suffering of Russia from their sanctions (nearly ten months after it was introduced, but Russia was still growing in the last quarter while Germany already shrunk), here's the funny part: while they glowingly recount that Russia MIGHT go into recession, the slaves used to sanction Russia have already plummeted into triple-dip recession...


Europe's Triple-Dip Recession Arrives: German Industrial Production Crashes Most Since February 2009

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/europes-triple-dip-recession-arrives-german-industrial-production-crashes-most-febru


So, they are using propaganda to taunt Russia that it will be reached by the floods because of their sanctions while they were already washed away by the floods...

 Cheesy
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Germans sent crematoriums
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Frankly, the Germans are in two camps pulling each other. It was actually a section of the German elite who instigated the Croatians (who were under the Hapsburg dynasty while the Serbs were Ottoman) which led eventually to the genocide between the Croats & the Serbs, which led to the eventual dissolution of Yugoslavia. THey are doing that now in UKraine (remember Klichko?) So Germany is not all sanctimonious democrat here, there is a lingering evil in a section of the German elite.

Remember, the biggest ethnic group in the US are the Germans, and Bush is of German heritage. The Bush family is a stalwart of the Anglo-Zionist empire, & it's murky how they have penetrated the Merkel power structure. So it's interesting studying the moves of Germany here. If you noticed, the sudden thrust of trolls now in their propaganda is to pit Germany vs. Russia as if there is a contest. Germany is being driven to be the Trojan horse , this humanitarian convoy is a spoof to the Russian convoys. But the German elite is overrated,  the German people will not go to war for it. Actually, it's about time Putin shows more teeth to that section of the German elite.


BUt China & Russia are very patient with the Germans because they are convincing them to consider the ASia-European market of the future, free of the crumbling Anglo-Zionist-American clique who is really  so desperate now it is throwing sanctions left or right so everybody will still be frightened of it.  Russia & China have a GDP-PPP as big as the US so the Germans won't lose much market if they switch sides to a less indebted & less violent future.'

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copyright and source:
Forbes Ukraine
translation by EuromaidanPress - Mariya Shcherbinina



Propaganda, the last weapon...  living in delusion is better than reality lest somebody becomes insane...

I've got news for you, but please excuse the source, just believe it?
SOURCE:
Forbes Ukraine

Forbes is an American Zionist paper, & I never thought Forbes would bother to put up a Forbes Magazine in a basket case economy like Ukraine (African level, GDP, a tenth of the Russian economy & poorer than Belarus & Kazakhstan). SO why did Forbes put up an international business paper in poor Ukraine, is it part of the Zionist disinformation machinery,  like the poor Ukrainians suddenly had money to put up an international TV station, Ukraine Today, at a time when the already small economy is crumbling?

Disinformation... if you can't beat reality, create your own delusion, you might yet save yourself living in an asylum..

 Cheesy



The Anglo-Zionist is very particular that its sanctions should be seen as effective because it relies on INTIMIDATION- as an example to other countries that they should not fight the Anglo-Zionist extortion or they suffer. The whole Zionist propaganda press hammers on that point because extortion is their game. And they have been humiliated by the resilence of the Russian economy, which grew in the last quarter while the Anglo-Zionist puppets in the EU started on their way back to recession. The Russian economy will  slow down eventually because all the world is slowing now, but not primarily of the sanctions. If you remember, the Anglo-Zionists had to invade Saddam because the sanctions did not weaken Saddam. Likewise with Iran, they sanctioned it but Iran withstood it,  but they couldn't attack Iran because it has a more powerful military than Saddam. And the more they can't attack Russia because it even has a better military than them.

So like a fish wife who can't get her way, mouth is the last recourse. Talk. Disinformation. Hype. Gotta frighten somebody, folks!!


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Terrorist DNR CELL in CRIMEA massive leak. Russian ministry of Economy hack.



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Germany sends more than 100 trucks to Ukraine



German Minister for Development Müller will assist Kyiv with an aid convoy valued at ten million euros (more than twelve million US Dollars), destined primarily for the war-ravaged territories of eastern Ukraine.

Given the approaching onset of winter in Ukraine, the federal government has formed an aid convoy of more than 100 trucks, destined primarily for the east of the country.

The Development Ministry announced on Saturday that the convoy is expected to arrive by mid-October in the troubled region.

Included in the shipment are mobile housing units and kitchens, heaters, generators, water and diesel tanks, winter clothing, blankets and cots.

The inventory was “closely coordinated with the Ukrainian government” and essentially intended for Eastern Ukrainian cities such as Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk and Sloviansk.


“Millions of refugees in the country”

“We want to send a message of solidarity,” said German Development Minister Gerd Müller (CSU). It is estimated that one million people in Ukraine had fled because of the violent clashes. Müller wants to hand over a part of the shipment in person on October 14 in Kharkov.

According to insiders, the Federal Government is considering a Bundeswehr mission to monitor the mediated ceasefire by the OSCE between rebels and the army in eastern Ukraine. If political decisions are made for an OSCE mission with the participation of German soldiers, the Bundeswehr would be willing to participate with personnel and equipment, it was reported in government circles on Saturday.

However, the possible number of troops is undecided. There is still no clear-cut concept of operations, since this depends both on the particular security situation in Ukraine as well as the conditions of the OSCE.

German-French talks

The Foreign Office announced that the federal government is currently engaged in talks with the French Government regarding support for the OSCE as it assumes its duties in Ukraine. “These are currently only exploratory discussions,” said a spokesman of the Foreign Office.

Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has discussed the topic on Friday in Paris with the French government. “Nothing is decided yet. Prior to any possible decisions, difficult legal and policy issues need to be clarified,” the spokesman said.

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translation by EuromaidanPress - Rafael Szlom
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article132915621/Deutschland-schickt-mehr-als-100-Lkw-in-die-Ukraine.html

This is actually good. Will these trucks get inspected with the same scrutiny by OSCE and the media as the Russian trucks were?
The other valid question: will this aid reach the people whose homes and lives were ravaged by the Galician/Ukrainian Nazis? The Germans plan to offload their trucks at the Ukrainian border. It would be as is American help to Soviet Union during WWII was off-loaded in Germany and entrusted to the Germans for further delivery. Knowing the level of corruption and hatred towards the Easter regions by the Galicians who will be receiving the load, it is safe to assume that none of the aid will reach its destination and will be stolen.
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Russian defense Ministry on deaths of Russian soldiers in Ukraine: ordered to lie
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Russia’s Ministry of Defense refuses to answer inquiries from the Soldiers’ Mothers organization about the deaths of Russian servicemen during the battles in the East of Ukraine.

Saint Petersburg human rights activists are fully committed to obtaining answers from the Russian Ministry of Defense to two questions: is it true that Russian servicemen are involved in military operations in Ukraine, and is it true that Russian soldiers are dying in the war.

The Soldiers’ Mothers of Saint Petersburg have backed up their formal inquiry into the participation of Russian soldiers in the war in Ukraine with materials received from specific military units such as these:

“It was announced to the servicemen in the military unit 71211 (331st Guards Airborne Regiment of Kostroma), who are currently located in Rostov Oblast, that they were no longer servicemen. Their contracts for active duty were being terminated, and at the moment they hold the status of “militiamen.” Moreover, it was announced to them that in the next few days they would be ordered to move in the direction of Mariupol (Ukraine).”

To her inquiry signed by a member of the Presidential Council on Human Rights, the chairwoman of the “Soldiers’ Mothers of Saint Petersburg” organization, Ella Poliakova, has received an answer which contained the following (the spelling and punctuation of the original has been preserved):

“Dear Ella Mikhailovna! Your inquiry, addressed to the head of the department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation of Social Services, has been examined in the (Russian) Airborne Troops Command. The information stated in your inquiry is incorrect. Your conjectures are based on information propagated in pro-Western media channels hostile to the Russian Federation. Keep calm and respect the defenders of our homeland. Your sincerely, deputy commander of the airborne troops on work with the personnel, Colonel V. Kupchishin.”

This answer did not satisfy the human rights activists. They saw elements of moralising in it, but did not see any concrete information on the specified military units. There was also no answer to the question whether the servicemen who had suffered gunshot and mine explosion injuries were undergoing medical treatment in the Military Medical Academy of Saint Petersburg. Furthermore, no answer at all followed the question about the death of servicemen in Ukraine, says Ella Poliakova:

“In our inquiry we asked for an explanation concerning the deaths of specific servicemen, in particular [those from] from the 18th army. I have copies of the set of documents on the death of Anton Tumanov. The place of death is not mentioned either in his [death certificate] or in the death certificate of other deceased, there is a dash [in its place]. We want to know why this is happening, where and how these servicemen died and why criminal investigations into their deaths have not yet been opened. Our list started with nine people, then two more were added, then those who Lev Schlossberg wrote about were added. At least Gudkov [a Russian politician and former Duma deputy] has received a formal reply to his inquiry from the Russian Ministry of Defense, [which stated] that they cannot disclose personal data and that all of this is fairy-tales of the foreign media, whereas we did not get any reply at all. But they are lawfully bound to reply.”

According to Ella Poliakova, the human rights activists are sending a second inquiry about the deceased, and if they do not obtain a reply this time either, they will then appeal to the court on behalf of the Presidential Council on Human Rights:

“The stance of the authorities is firm; they refuse to accept that Russian servicemen are fighting and dying in Ukraine, hence there is nothing new in the fact that the Soldiers’ Mothers committee did not receive an answer to their inquiry, supposes political scientist Sergei Shelin. “Besides, the concealment of military operations is widespread. They [the military operations] are not acknowledged by the Russian diplomacy in all of the contacts with its foreign partners. On no account will they be acknowledged either by the servicemen or by the investigative agencies. The whole authoritative machine is working synchronously. Regardless of the facts, they are not ready to admit what is deemed as obvious by the outside world, that Russia is sending its armed forces to take part in the conflict in Eastern Ukraine.

“Apparently, the consequences being drawn up in their minds following the acknowledgement of this fact do not suit our authorities at all, and they are ready to deny even those incidents which are seemingly impossible to refute. Whereas society is trying not to think about this war. I think that people aren’t being very sincere when replying to various surveys on this matter. Moreover, the majority believe that this war will not affect them in any way: neither their relatives, nor their children, nor their husbands would die there.”

The deputy of the Legislative Assembly of Saint Petersburg from the “Yabloko” faction, Boris Vishnevskiy, agrees with the fact that the Russian authorities will do all they can to continue concealing the involvement of Russian troops in the Ukrainian conflict:

“A big mass lie is at hand, the same as in the days of all the undeclared wars that Soviet servicemen took part in. After all, even back then it wasn’t acknowledged that we were fighting in North Korea, Yemen, Angola, Egypt, Ethiopia and other countries. This was all only acknowledged in 1995, with those who survived having been recognized as [war] veterans and given appropriate benefits. I think that the truth about the war in Ukraine will come to light as well: it is impossible to hide the deaths of people, even after having pressured their mothers, widows and other relatives. Even by intimidating someone, or bribing someone, complete silence will not be achieved. But I think that an order to lie while denying any facts is issued from the very top: hence they will be lying till the end. Although, admittedly, it would be impossible to keep doing this for a long time.”

The press secretary of the Soldiers’ Mothers of Saint Petersburg, Alexander Peredruk, is also certain that it will be impossible to conceal the truth about the Russian soldiers that are fighting in Ukraine for a long time, and he has even set specific target dates for when this truth will start to emerge:

“Now we have made an acquaintance with a lawyer, whose name we are deliberately not revealing. He told us about his client who has been held criminally liable for desertion for refusing to carry out [military] service. According to him, he was a contract soldier first sent to Rostov, and then he had to cross the border with Ukraine. We still have to check this information thoroughly, including that [information] on the initiation of criminal proceedings against this individual. This is why we are not disclosing his name either. But right now it is known for certain that a few servicemen were transferred from Rostov back to the Murmansk Oblast, to Pechenga.

“Right now these soldiers are within the [military] units. There are conscripts amongst them, and roughly in a month or two they will be demobilized, and then, I think, they will be able to tell a lot. One of them is an old acquaintance of mine, a friend, so we have personal connections there. It was indeed he who told me a while ago on the phone that his unit is being sent to Rostov-on-Don. Now we have to wait till those conscripts that have taken part in some [military] operations in Ukraine will be demobilized, and in half a year at the latest we will know many details. As for the official answer to our inquiries, we are not hoping for a more concrete answer than the one that was given to Gudkov. And indeed we are not even ruling out [the option of] taking legal action, so that further inquiries would then be sent on behalf of the court.”

The recently published results of a survey by the Levada Center suggest that more than half of Russians are not very interested in the death of Russian soldiers in Ukraine, while part of the people regard this data as being purely fabricated by the enemy. At the same time a sociologist, Mariya Mackevich, repeats that according to the surveys, the majority of the population has been opposing the war since the very beginning of the conflict, and were not expecting the deployment of Russian troops to Ukraine:

“The way the question is phrased is very important: if you ask people “are you for or against the war”, they of course will reply “against”. By the way, the surveys have shown, and this has surprised many commentators, that a large portion of people sympathized with the March for Peace in Moscow. However, people were barely aware of the purpose of this rally, while the words “March for Peace” for them clearly carried positive undertones. In other words, people don’t want war. The question about preparedness for casualties is a whole other matter. But the authorities know that people don’t want war, and thus they are saying that there is no war. And people are supporting them. Whereas when we are talking about the death of a specific serviceman, the reaction varies: some blame the state that sent their son to the war; others say yes he died, but he was carrying out orders.

“And one has to understand that by criticizing the war, we have no right to take away from the parents the awareness that their son has died while performing [his] duty. And this is quite compatible: yes we don’t want a war, but if a state sends a man somewhere where military operations are ongoing, the condemnation of the state for the death of the said man is by no means shared by all. The reason behind the lies is also clear: the authorities are fully aware that the majority of the population does not support war, hence the reason why all the means of propaganda assert that there is no war. So it’s as though the lie is created towards meeting the wishes of the citizens. This is also what it did during the war in Afghanistan – this is exactly the same line of behavior. If the war is undeclared, it is difficult to expect that the Russian Ministry of Defense will behave as though military operations are being officially conducted. This is why, just like during the war with Afghanistan, the relatives are being told that the man has died, and writing where and how he died on the tombstones is prohibited.”

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http://www.svoboda.org/content/article/26617173.html
http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/10/05/ordered-to-lie/
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Germany sends more than 100 trucks to Ukraine



German Minister for Development Müller will assist Kyiv with an aid convoy valued at ten million euros (more than twelve million US Dollars), destined primarily for the war-ravaged territories of eastern Ukraine.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article132915621/Deutschland-schickt-mehr-als-100-Lkw-in-die-Ukraine.html

Ha, look of what Low IQ journalist propaganda tool of Zionist imperialist running dogs have dream up today!  Grin

These fake "picture" is obvious photoshop by Low IQ Rothschild intern in NATO HQ basement.

How can any peoples be so stupid to believe Germany is capable of make truck?  German only make cabbage and beer, no have heavy industry like Great Mother Russia thanks to glorious Stalin Public Works Five Year Plan, which provide much food for Ukraine every years since 200000 BC.   Tongue

All so-call "German" vehicle actual make in Blagoveshchensk Factory #4607  by omnipotent warriors of Russian industry, who did never were defeat by Germans in Great Patriotic War or US in Great Korean Conflict despite make believe low IQ imperialist enemy of people western newspaper false lie.

Yes myshownow, that's what I thought you would say.

Did you have a good time at the 12 Labors of Gasputin birthday exhibit?  Didn't he look manly and virile in the paintings?
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