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The point is that if Gazprom (AKA GASPUTIN) does not wish to sell its products to Europe

Give proof to that in a NEW topic about GAS MARKET in EU and related prices FOR DUMMIES.
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September 30, 2014, 11:28:55 PM
Pooty-poot can use his 'Gas Weapon' all he likes.  Doing so only accelerates development of competing LNG facilities, while breathing new life into the petrodollar.   Cool




Btw, it's obvious the game plan is to use the ISIS drama to force a pipeline to Syria but like so many of the failures in the last decade, that won't pass. Those villains who survived the Iskandar missiles would have frozen to death by then...

Take a test: stay in a freezer -20 then try to build a gas storage tank, see how long you will last... Grin

Multi-billion dollar LNG terminals mean we don't need to rely on piplines.  Did you see the size of those ships?  They are freaking enormous!

The picture above is in Alaska, where  -20 is considered to be a nice sunny day and a vast pipeline has been running sine the 70s.   Cheesy

The point is that if Gazprom (AKA GASPUTIN) does not wish to sell its products to Europe, Chevron and Exxon are very happy for the increased business.

That, in turn, prolongs the life span of the petrodollar hegemony.  Vlad Putin is in check, with no good moves left on the board.   Cool
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September 30, 2014, 11:08:11 PM
Stop flooding with OFF TOPIC.
All Russian Federation related talking is OFF TOPIC HERE.


Mиpoвыe цeны нa гaз, coлнeчнyю энepгию и дpoвa oбcyждaйтe гдe нибyдь eщё.
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September 30, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
Pooty-poot can use his 'Gas Weapon' all he likes.  Doing so only accelerates development of competing LNG facilities, while breathing new life into the petrodollar.   Cool







LOL!!! Bravo!!! Very high IQ??!!!  Cheesy

Btw, it's obvious the game plan is to use the ISIS drama to force a pipeline to Syria but like so many of the failures in the last decade, that won't pass. Those villains who survived the Iskandar missiles would have frozen to death by then...

Take a test: stay in a freezer -20 then try to build a gas storage tank, see how long you will last... Grin




Hmm, it's already October there, right? Autumn?

 Wink

Did The Winter War Just Begin? Russian Gas Supplies To Europe Plunge 15%, Ukraine Transit Slashed 54%


 
Just a week ago, the Russian energy minister made the first public 'threat' of gas supply "throttling" disruptions to Europe but judging by the data that has just been released, it appears the 'throttling' has begun. Bloomberg reports that Russian gas supplies to Europe fell 15% year-over-year in Q3 - the most in over two years - as natural gas transit through Ukraine plunged 54% year-over-year. In 2013, Gazprom sent 60% of its supply via Ukraine pipelines, in August that dropped to 39%, and in September only 34%. Of course, Europe remains confident its storage efforts will buffer any "Winter War" disruptions, as we noted here, but as Citi warned previously, "if colder weather arrives, storage levels will be drained," and then there is the Spring (and German industry needs).


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/did-winter-war-just-begin-russian-gas-supplies-europe-plunge-15-ukraine-transit-slas


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September 30, 2014, 10:17:29 PM
Pooty-poot can use his 'Gas Weapon' all he likes.  Doing so only accelerates development of competing LNG facilities, while breathing new life into the petrodollar.   Cool










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September 30, 2014, 07:34:23 PM


Hmm, it's already October there, right? Autumn?


 Wink

Did The Winter War Just Begin? Russian Gas Supplies To Europe Plunge 15%, Ukraine Transit Slashed 54%


 
Just a week ago, the Russian energy minister made the first public 'threat' of gas supply "throttling" disruptions to Europe but judging by the data that has just been released, it appears the 'throttling' has begun. Bloomberg reports that Russian gas supplies to Europe fell 15% year-over-year in Q3 - the most in over two years - as natural gas transit through Ukraine plunged 54% year-over-year. In 2013, Gazprom sent 60% of its supply via Ukraine pipelines, in August that dropped to 39%, and in September only 34%. Of course, Europe remains confident its storage efforts will buffer any "Winter War" disruptions, as we noted here, but as Citi warned previously, "if colder weather arrives, storage levels will be drained," and then there is the Spring (and German industry needs).


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/did-winter-war-just-begin-russian-gas-supplies-europe-plunge-15-ukraine-transit-slas


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September 30, 2014, 06:35:37 PM
Roll Eyes




PUTIN is a CRYBABY, it is now confirmed.

I could have suspected it based on his supporters.

Can someone give Putin a breast to nuzzle?

The Ukrainians sure gave him a manhandling.....

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September 30, 2014, 06:15:35 PM
I am really bored by the UKranian trolls we have here- can't they find anybody with some IQ to pitch against us here?
It seems that their employer is unable to buy the sufficient amount of iodized salt for them.

I miss niothor, some of his messages were interesing.


Niothor would be too ashamed to return. Knocked-out by a one-two punch. Before he disappeared, he was destroyed by Deisik then I slapped the reality on him about the vulnerability of the EU because it can be easily crashed by the unpayable $75 trillion debt of the DEutsche Bank. Niothor is just the typical mosquito who just because it landed on an elephant, it presumed it was also an elephant. But what would happen if that elephant was dying because it turned out it was bankrupt? NIothor is like the other Post-Soviet delusionals who thought they got bigger by associating with what they thought were big masters not knowing they had instead clung to bankrupt masters. So when reality stares at them, that they had been duped & had to face the reality they were still small like before, it hits them bad. Niothor loved to talk down from his presumed position of EU high grounds so when he realized he was speaking only from THird World Romania grounds, he was lost.

Granted, Niothor was better than the UKrainians who are really for entertainment, too dumb to be taken seriously .

 Cheesy
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September 30, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
I like it more this way Smiley


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September 30, 2014, 01:08:28 PM
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September 30, 2014, 10:32:06 AM
I am really bored by the UKranian trolls we have here- can't they find anybody with some IQ to pitch against us here?
It seems that their employer is unable to buy the sufficient amount of iodized salt for them.

I miss niothor, some of his messages were interesing.
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September 30, 2014, 10:25:10 AM

I actually believe that Russia is in a position to retake the Baltics now.

]Pagan or DarkForces would think so, b


LOL, just a manner of saying. I am really bored by the UKranian trolls we have here- can't they find anybody with some IQ to pitch against us here? It has been a festival of deadbeats from their part- after the humiliating pretensions of the stupid Rasah & the rest of the dumpster kids, they sent this reinforcement Icebreaker who is no better, just as dumb.  He can't stay away from his prepared talking points & pictures or he would crap immediately. Where did they pick up these nitwits and who was their loser boss who thought these clowns could be propagandists? No wonder Ukraine has been virtually a a dilapidated African state throughout all those years, it doesn't have a deep bench. Pity

 Cheesy
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September 30, 2014, 09:58:50 AM
The Foxhole: Jacob Heilbrunn on America’s will power for war

Jacob Heilbrunn suared his views on Obama and Putin actions & situation in the Eastern Ukraine. See from 13:20.

I actually believe that Russia is in a position to retake the Baltics now.
Pagan or DarkForces would think so, but it's unlikely because nobody needs a force to retake them. These states are destroying themselves even without any foreign help. More than 1/4 of titular population have been lost during the last two decades while ethnic russian's population is quite stable. Just let their governments to spend another 20-30 years on performing of the same policy and they'll voluntarily join the RF. Just because titular population will become a minority.
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September 30, 2014, 09:01:04 AM
I'm intrigued by the NATO thrust of your posts. Hmm. NATO is just a convenient excuse for many current events to rectify history, but when it comes down to it, it's not really a big threat (the "pussification" of the WEst, if you may). Europe is becoming a backwater and your tales of doom tend to focus on a backwater. And you had the chutzpah to even warn...  Wink

CLUE: Look at a more complete map & you'll see the European borders are just a SMALL corner of Russia. The bigger part is where the future is...

NATO isn't really a big threat?  Well then, you won't mind when Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan join us.   Cheesy

Of course NATO already has a billion people, millions of troops, thousands of nuclear missiles, and hundreds of submarines, so maybe you should.




LOL, nobody is joining NATO because it is moribund. The WEstern European countries are too hard up to buy modern armaments.And they are not in a position to do so anytime in the future. Moreover, history has changed- the Eurasian countries have more growth and disposable income to influence the future course of civilization.

I was just watching German TV & as if in a coincidence, the host was taunting the NATO, that when trouble breaks up in the Baltic, even Germany is not in a position to respond because only 1 out its 4 submarines was working, only half of its 500 tanks are working, only half of its a couple of hundred planes are working, etc.

I actually believe that Russia is in a position to retake the Baltics now. Just like in the US-initiated ISIS coalition, it is expected no major European country will help to retake them and risk being pulverized by nuclear bombs.

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September 30, 2014, 08:13:21 AM
When the Kremlin blames Georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR, then pushes them around, that's also exactly the type of shit that makes them want to join NATO.

i beg you pardon. but when did so called "kremlin" ever blamed georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR?

And when exactly were they "pushed around"?
Over the last couple of years, once Saakashvili was out of the office and NATO backed off a little, Georgian/Russian relations started to normalise. Now NATO is banging on the Georgian door again.
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September 30, 2014, 08:09:49 AM
When the Kremlin blames Georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR, then pushes them around, that's also exactly the type of shit that makes them want to join NATO.

i beg you pardon. but when did so called "kremlin" ever blamed georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR?
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September 30, 2014, 07:03:08 AM
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The bigger part is where the future is...

In Eurasia,BRICS  Wink
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September 30, 2014, 06:44:32 AM
What about acknowledging the past atrocities committed by Georgia (Stalin/Djugashvili), Ukraine, the Baltic states.

By the way, in a way you are right: speaking of Ukraine as a separate from Russia entity makes as much sense as speaking of Gascogne as an entity separate from France. So past Ukrainian and Baltic atrocities go together with Russia, though thorough the CIA-styled social-egineered historical amnesia, these regions suddenly became completely separate entities, disconnected from their past history, over the course of the last 20 years.

About revising of history, you are a kettle calling the teapot. See my post about the 100th anniversary of the first commercial flight - a domestic flight St. Petersburg-Kiev, with an airplane built in Riga - to get a more realistic historical perspective:

I have the greatest respect for Russian civilization, which is why I mourn for the lost glory of the Tsar's Empire and despise the degenerate Marxists who destroyed it.

Do you know we celebrate Yuri's Night in America?  So please spare me the cheerleading trivia about first commercial flights.   Roll Eyes

When the Kremlin blames Ukraine for being oppressed and starved under Communism, them pushes then around, that's precisely the kind of crap that makes them want to join NATO.

When the Kremlin blames Georgia for the crimes of Stalin's USSR, then pushes them around, that's also exactly the type of shit that makes them want to join NATO.


We know Ukraine and Russia share common ancestry and culture; that makes Russia's inability to stop abusing its sister all the more unforgivable.  Ditto for poor little Georgia.

All this conflict only benefits the oligarchs of New York, London, and Moscow!  Why can't Ukraine and Russia live together and trade in peace?  Ukraine needs gas to burn in the winter, Russia needs wheat, potatoes, and rye to make beer and vodka.  Work it out and stop killing each other FFS. 

Because if Russia refuses to stop bullying its smaller neighbors, we might unleash their old friends the Turks and may even let the Dragon out of its cramped cage to stretch its legs north of the Amur...
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September 30, 2014, 06:19:38 AM
Sorry, but Russia will not be allowed to impose famine in Ukraine, tanks in Prague, or Iron Curtains in Germany ever again.

Russia's bad behavior resulted in the creation of the greatest military alliance in history, which has already crushed the Warsaw Pact and will soon complete its mission to burn, then bury Lenin's stinking corpse once and for all.   Cool

There you go again. Again, Ukraine was but a small portion of Russia (actually, USSR, but I used "Russia" there intentionally to illustrate a previous, pre-1917, point) that got hit by famine.

It's not "Russia's bad behavour" that created NATO. NATO was created right after WWII (and Soviet Union was still depicted as the good guy then) as a covert future mechanism to invade/destroy Soviet Union, the US/UK plans for that existed even as WWI was still raging. Warsaw Pact was created as a response to NATO.

And, please, separate Russia (RSFSR) and Soviet Union (USSR) when talking about that period. Otherwise you stand guilty of rewriting history. Most of the Party Apparatus of USSR consisted of people coming from other republics than RSFSR.

Agree with you on the need to bury Lenin, though - it's long overdue.
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September 30, 2014, 06:14:34 AM
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Of course there always will be some set of unprovable basic statements. Entire math is built on the foundation of axioms.

Faith is necessary sometimes to choose the direction of study... For example, without faith there won't be nuclear reactors, solar panels and many other things. But faith is unable to replace the study itself.

P.S. I mean that this civilization could be destroyed by some other...

yes indeed, and ours is about to crash and burn because of zionists blind faith with their NWO crap. I'm just telling you, dont hate the poor christians and muslims, they have nothing to do with what is currently happening all around the world. Faith indeed allows progress, but its always been about religion anyway. The most important is just not to fall for the devil.


So-called "zionists" (I have no idea why people are using this term) will loose their power gradually. Of course this temporary vacuum could cause some issues during the transitional period, but the fatal scenario is unlikely.

There is no reason for hate, they're just victims. I hope that suitable treatment will be eventually invented but currently we have no choice except supporting the lesser evil. State and independent institutions should provide financial and informational support for the peaceful religious movements in order to make them stronger against the radical ones.
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