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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 24. (Read 734725 times)

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Valentina Lisitca, a renowned American pianist of Ukrainian descent, who was blocked from performing in Canada for her support of the people of Donbass, arrived today in Donetsk, to give a concert, commemorating the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow, the day, when Nazi Germany attacked USSR.



Lugansk was under mortar shelling today, a power like was destroyed, living thousands of people without water and power. Ukrainian forces were shelling civilian positions.



Several high_ranking officers, after securing their families, switched to the side of the people, taking an oath to DNR. The eldest of them, who also fought in Afghan, said that the officers of the Ukro-army are intimidated with threats against their families, and that they are not taking any decisions - the decisions are sent from above (stars and stripes?).
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Givi talks on love, war and future - big interview with modern hero

http://rusvesna.su/english/1434856700

 — Are you a joyful person in everyday life? - I ask as Givi laughs and gives his fighter a command to suck his belly in. The fighters are running around, shelling sounds and explosions are heard outside. The commander listens to his walky-talky and chain-smokes.

— My people should be asked this, not me.

— What’s your attitude to life? Are you a pessimist or optimist?

— I am an optimist, always. I always belive the luck is on our side… The victory and the luck. You know, I am responsible for people. If I were different, would they serve in this battallion? They respect me and I respect them in response. I may sometimes tell them well off, that’s not a secret…

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^^^^ Did some R&D on the Gazprom sales to the UK. It seems that only a small part of it is Russian gas. Most of the gas sold to the UK by Gazprom were initially purchased from the North Sea fields, or were delivered as LNG as a part of the "swap deals" (not sure what a swap deal is and what part it plays in natural gas trade).

That is why "Others" (including Russia) are at less than 1% in the pie chart which I had posted earlier.
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According to it, Gazprom sold some 12 billion cubic meters of gas to the United Kingdom in 2013. (10.09 billion cubic meters in 2014). Even as per the 2014 figures, Gazprom supplied almost one-fifth of all the gas consumed in the United Kingdom. So it means that the UK is already receiving pipeline gas from Gazprom.

http://www.gazpromexport.ru/en/statistics/

From the same site (http://www.gazpromexport.ru/en/partners/gb/)...

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In December 1994, Gazprom became a shareholder in the company Interconnector (UK), which operates the Interconnector gas pipeline connecting the European continent to Britain

As per Wiki, the Interconnector is a natural gas pipeline between the United Kingdom and continental Europe. It crosses the North Sea between Bacton Gas Terminal in England and Zeebrugge in Belgium. <...> The UK export capacity of the Interconnector is 20 billion cubic metres per year. Since October 2007, the UK import capacity is 25.5 billion cubic metres per year

It seems that the Britons are not quite happy with the Qatari LNG
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I think you should exclude domestic gas production from the balance (since it is not relevant to the matter discussed). As far as I'm informed, in 2014 Qatari LNG accounted for 20% of Britain’s gas supplies. The United Kingdom is obviously interested in cheap Russian gas, sanctions or no sanctions (given the running down of the North Sea gas fields, the UK's main source of gas)...

I am a little confused. I just saw this figure:



According to it, Gazprom sold some 12 billion cubic meters of gas to the United Kingdom in 2013. (10.09 billion cubic meters in 2014). Even as per the 2014 figures, Gazprom supplied almost one-fifth of all the gas consumed in the United Kingdom. So it means that the UK is already receiving pipeline gas from Gazprom.

http://www.gazpromexport.ru/en/statistics/
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....within the US Embassy, the lack of political controversy over the project in Finland was a surprise.

Well, no such unfortunate lack as regards their vassal state Germany which they have occupied tor 70 years now.
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Looks like Greece will not be left hanging. My feeling is that Russia will give Greece advance payment for gas transit so that Greece remains solvent.

And the signing of the construction contract creates new work places in Greece. Putin advised EU to applaud Russia for salvaging Greece and creating work there, so that Greece would be able to pay back its debts: Smiley
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/06/20/greece/

Let's wait and see what actually happens. I remember that when a year ago Putin had only promised to send Russian troops to Ukraine, the whole world went agonizing. So now we could expect the speedy write-offs of all Greek debts by the EU on just hearing His word...
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Looks like Greece will not be left hanging. My feeling is that Russia will give Greece advance payment for gas transit so that Greece remains solvent.

And the signing of the construction contract creates new work places in Greece. Putin advised EU to applaud Russia for salvaging Greece and creating work there, so that Greece would be able to pay back its debts: Smiley
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/06/20/greece/
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16.2.2011 8:37

Wikileaks: Gas Pipeline Permit Was Too Easy in US View

US diplomatic cables acquired by YLE from Wikileaks show that American Embassy officials in Helsinki were surprised by the ease with which the Finnish government granted a permit for the construction of a Russia-to-Germany natural gas pipeline through Finnish territorial waters. The matter was handled as an environmental, not a security policy issue.

The gas pipeline project has moved forward smoothly from the start. The Wikileaks documents acquired by YLE show that within the US Embassy, the lack of political controversy over the project in Finland was a surprise.

Only a few days before the Finnish government issued a permit for the construction of a section of the pipeline to run through Finnish waters, US Embassy officials were consternated that Finland was dealing with the issue solely as an environmental question without regard for its security policy dimensions.

Lipponen: Sweden was two-faced

Former Prime Minister Paavo Lipponen became a consultant for the pipeline company. In an interview with YLE's Swedish-language TV, Lipponen praised the way the Finnish government handled the matter.

In contrast, he was critical of how it was approached in Sweden.

"Sweden has followed the same line as Finland in the Nord Stream question. It was discussed here, too, but we didn't play two cards at once, as was done in Sweden," said Lipponen.

Russia feared politicisation

Unlike, for example, in Estonia, the application for a pipeline construction permit was considered an entirely non-political issue in Finland. That was what Russia wanted.

According to US information, more than six months before the government's decision to approve the permit, Finnish Foreign Minister Alexander Stubb assured his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov that the pipeline had not become a political issue in Finland. Construction work was subsequently in full swing even before the government gave its final stamp of approval.

About 1000 kilometres of the natural gas pipeline between Russia and Germany have been completed, with only around 200 more to be finished.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/wikileaks_gas_pipeline_permit_was_too_easy_in_us_view/5081121
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^^^^

Qatari LNG accounts for only 12% of the total gas consumed in the United Kingdom, but it is still significant (Qatari LNG imports were reported at 6 billion cubic meters in 2013). If the UK want to replace Qatari gas with Russian gas, there are options other than pipeline gas. Gazprom is currently working on the Baltic LNG project, which is having a capacity of 10 million tons. Once it is complete, Gazprom may not need the Nord Stream to sell its gas to the United Kingdom.

I think you should exclude domestic gas production from the balance (since it is not relevant to the matter discussed). As far as I'm informed, in 2014 Qatari LNG accounted for 20% of Britain’s gas supplies. The United Kingdom is obviously interested in cheap Russian gas, sanctions or no sanctions (given the running down of the North Sea gas fields, the UK's main source of gas)...
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^^^^

Qatari LNG accounts for only 12% of the total gas consumed in the United Kingdom, but it is still significant (Qatari LNG imports were reported at 6 billion cubic meters in 2013). If the UK want to replace Qatari gas with Russian gas, there are options other than pipeline gas. Gazprom is currently working on the Baltic LNG project, which is having a capacity of 10 million tons. Once it is complete, Gazprom may not need the Nord Stream to sell its gas to the United Kingdom.

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As we have discussed this matter previously, such info makes it purposeful to continue at where we finished. I was assuming that it was actually not the EU (as a union of independent European nations) but Germany which controls this end of the pipeline, so it is Germany who has the last word (in the person of frau Merkel) whether the existing Nord Stream pipeline would operate and at what capacity. Since Austria itself is a little Germany, I can speculate that something is going to change in the current state of affairs (if it didn't already)...

By the way, Germany based E-ON is the top energy supplier in Europe

So what do you think? Will the Germans grant permission for the 3rd and 4th lines of Nord Stream or not? The next German federal election are due on 2017, and there is a good chance that frau's Christian Democratic Union of Germany (CDU) will be thrown out of power, by a Die Linke - SPD coalition. But right now, CDU is ahead in opinion polls.

We should turn to history to see what happened in 2012, when frau Merkel freaked out at the idea of building the next lines of the Nord Stream pipeline, in order to understand what happens right now...



As I said, to see an American hand in frau Merkel's blowout would be a bit simplistic. So what actually happened back then? To get an idea, we should figure out the balance of power in today's Europe. Who is the primary contender to Berlin's domination on the continent? The contender remains the same as it was a hundred years ago. It is London. Great Britain is a part of the EU, but it is not a part of the Eurozone, so Berlin doesn't have financial power over it. Who was behind the idea of expanding and extending Nord Stream in 2012? As you may have already guessed, it was London. In June 2012 Gazprom announced initial plans to extend the Nord Stream pipeline with the construction of two new lines, one of which going straight to the United Kingdom. Why would Germany allow its ancient foe to become stronger if it could just ban the extension of the pipeline under some plausible pretext?

This pretty much explains as well why Nord Stream is used only at 50% of its capacity. Filling up the pipeline to the limit would require Germany to sell the cheap Russian gas to its competitors in the European market as cheaply (since Germany itself doesn't need so much Russian gas). That was Gazprom's idea to turn Germany into a gas hub. But instead of buying Russian gas from Germany many European countries (including Belgium, the United Kingdom and Spain) are forced to buy expensive Qatari LNG, thereby making their goods less competitive beside German goods

Now to the question you asked. If the new pipelines don't threaten the dominance of Germany in Europe (or can even contribute to this dominance making it yet more overwhelming), then I don't see much rationality in banning this project. As of now, we can only take a wait-and-see approach and speculate until the situation becomes clearer in due course
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As we have discussed this matter previously, such info makes it purposeful to continue at where we finished. I was assuming that it was actually not the EU (as a union of independent European nations) but Germany which controls this end of the pipeline, so it is Germany who has the last word (in the person of frau Merkel) whether the existing Nord Stream pipeline would operate and at what capacity. Since Austria itself is a little Germany, I can speculate that something is going to change in the current state of affairs (if it didn't already)...

By the way, Germany based E-ON is the top energy supplier in Europe

So what do you think? Will the Germans grant permission for the 3rd and 4th lines of Nord Stream or not? The next German federal election are due on 2017, and there is a good chance that frau's Christian Democratic Union of Germany (CDU) will be thrown out of power, by a Die Linke - SPD coalition. But right now, CDU is ahead in opinion polls.
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The Austrian oil company OMW has signed a memorandum of understanding that it wants to participate in the construction of two further legs of the existing Nord Stream pipeline Viborg-Greifswald. Additional partners: Royal-Dutch Shell, E-ON and Gazprom (51%).

Extra capacity: 55 billion m3/year.

I don't think that this will go ahead, as the European Union will refuse permission. Even the existing Nord Stream pipeline is operating at 50% capacity, due to the restrictions imposed by the EU. First they should remove these restrictions, making it possible for Gazprom to utilize the pipeline at full capacity, rather than building new pipelines.

As we have discussed this matter previously, such info makes it purposeful to continue at where we finished. I was assuming that it was actually not the EU (as a union of independent European nations) but Germany which controls this end of the pipeline, so it is Germany who has the last word (in the person of frau Merkel) whether the existing Nord Stream pipeline would operate and at what capacity. Since Austria itself is a little Germany, I can speculate that something is going to change in the current state of affairs (if it didn't already)...

By the way, Germany based E-ON is the top energy supplier in Europe
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The Austrian oil company OMW has signed a memorandum of understanding that it wants to participate in the construction of two further legs of the existing Nord Stream pipeline Viborg-Greifswald. Additional partners: Royal-Dutch Shell, E-ON and Gazprom (51%).

Extra capacity: 55 billion m3/year.

I don't think that this will go ahead, as the European Union will refuse permission. Even the existing Nord Stream pipeline is operating at 50% capacity, due to the restrictions imposed by the EU. First they should remove these restrictions, making it possible for Gazprom to utilize the pipeline at full capacity, rather than building new pipelines.
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Speaking of vassals...

How Italy Is Quietly Trying To Break Russia's Isolation

Italian PM Matteo Renzi has obtained Washington's blessing to pursue its own dialogue with the Kremlin. Could Rome be the bridge to resolving the Ukraine crisis?

ROME — The warm welcome that Russian President Vladimir Putin received on his recent visit to Italy did not come out of the blue. It is a direct result of a shift in Italy’s foreign policy that began to take shape two months ago when Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi met with President Barack Obama at the White House.

It was April 17th, and the two world leaders were in the Oval Office discussing Italy’s position on the Western sanctions on Russia linked to the crisis in Ukraine. ... more

http://www.worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/how-italy-is-quietly-trying-to-break-russia-amp-39-s-isolation/obama-putin-renzi-italy-russia/c1s19048/#.VYUnIPntmko






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Nord Stream Pipeline to be Doubled

The Austrian oil company OMW has signed a memorandum of understanding that it wants to participate in the construction of two further legs of the existing Nord Stream pipeline Viborg-Greifswald. Additional partners: Royal-Dutch Shell, E-ON and Gazprom (51%).

Extra capacity: 55 billion m3/year.






Vassal needs permission from the Americans of course.
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First Saakashvili, now this political refuse. Wonder what other insane crap is included in that council.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has invited former British PM Tony Blair to “share his experience of public administration” on an international council of European public figures advising Kiev on government reforms.

After meeting with Poroshenko in Kiev, the former UK leader told reporters that Ukraine faced “great challenges” from “Russian aggression” and “corruption.” Blair, who was prime minister from 1997 to 2007, also called on Ukrainian leaders to follow “not self-interest but values” such as “freedom, democracy and a desire to serve the people.”

Tony Blair, lying the West into Iraq for a few shekels causing hundreds of thousands of deaths, worrying about ‘Russian aggression and corruption‘, that’s rich.

Yeah right. Psychopaths love each others´company of course.

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IMF Humiliates Greece, Repeats It Will Keep Funding Ukraine Even If It Defaults

Greece is being humiliated, as the refuse to bow down to the NATO. On the other hand, the Kiev junta is being showered with money, as they are obeying the orders from the NATO war-mongers. The NATO want to start a war with Russia, using proxies such as the Right Sector in Ukraine. Thereby, they can weaken Russia, without suffering any casualties for themselves.
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Fucking bankers

IMF Humiliates Greece, Repeats It Will Keep Funding Ukraine Even If It Defaults

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/imf-humiliates-greece-repeats-it-will-keep-funding-ukraine-even-case-default

One week ago, we were stunned to learn just how low the political organization that is the mostly US-taxpayer funded IMF has stooped when, a day after its negotiators demonstratively stormed out of the Greek negotiations with "creditors",  Hermes' ambassador-at-large Christone Lagarde said that the IMF "could lend to Ukraine even if Ukraine determines it cannot service its debt."

In other words, as Greece struggles to avoid a default to the IMF on debt which was incurred just so German banks can remain solvent and dump trillions in non-performing loans to US hedge funds and Greek exposure, and which would result in the collapse in the living standards of an entire nation (only for a few years before an Iceland-recovery takes place, one which Greece would already be enjoying had it defaulted in 2010 as we said it should), and as the "criminal" IMF does everything in its power to subjugate an entire nation, or else let it founder, the IMF told Soros' BFFs over in Kiev, that no matter if they default to its private creditors (in fact please do since Russia is among them), the IMF would keep the debt spigot flowing.

Courtesy of the US taxpayer of course.
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