Short History of Ukraine. Oles' Buzina 23.12.2014 | Eng. Subs
From The Saker:
Dear friends,
Today I am truly delighted to be able to present you with an amazingly interesting video: an interview of the Ukrainian writer and historian Oles Buzina in which he (in 90 minutes or so) not only covers the key moments of the history of the land which today is called “the Ukraine”, but also explains where the modern Ukraine came from and what it is. To my knowledge, this is the first time that an English speaking audience gets access to such a thorough and well presented explanation of what the Ukraine is, and what it is not, what is factual, and what is myth....
http://thesaker.is/a-must-see-interview-about-the-history-of-the-ukraine/
From The Saker:
Dear friends,
Today I am truly delighted to be able to present you with an amazingly interesting video: an interview of the Ukrainian writer and historian Oles Buzina in which he (in 90 minutes or so) not only covers the key moments of the history of the land which today is called “the Ukraine”, but also explains where the modern Ukraine came from and what it is. To my knowledge, this is the first time that an English speaking audience gets access to such a thorough and well presented explanation of what the Ukraine is, and what it is not, what is factual, and what is myth....
http://thesaker.is/a-must-see-interview-about-the-history-of-the-ukraine/
Looks like a good video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOrBUKHgV7Y
To save time, you can read the transcript, just click on "...More->Transcript". Here are the first 9 minutes of it:
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Oles Olekseyevich Buzina - writer, publicist, historian Short history of Ukraine Kiev, December 22, 2014
0:04 - Oles Alekseyevich, lately there are such terms as Malorossiya and Novorossiya which have come back in usage. When did they appear and what terriroties include?
0:13 - If speaking about Malorossiya, the matter is more common for our people.
0:19 Because... Malorossiya often mentioned in works of Gogol, Shevchenko.
0:26 Paustovskiy has such episode when Nikolay II comes to the 1st Kiev gymnasium, and passing by pupils, he comes up to Paustovskiy and asks who he is by nationality. He answers - Maloros.
0:40 Kiev, at the same time as Bulgakov, before World War I Paustovskiy finished 1st Kiev gymnasium.
0:48 So, it is more or less clear with Malorossiya. Malorossiya is traditionally a left-bank Ukraine without Slobozhanschina.
0:56 What is left-bank Ukraine? This is 10 cossack regiments, which became so called Getmanschina (Zaporizhian Host).
1:03 Because Slobodskaya Ukraine is the present Kharkov region. It was directly controlled by Moscow.
1:08 These were lands of Moscow empire which were populated by cossacks who escaped from Poland.
1:15 They escaped from the right-bank, and settled near Kharkov. There was Krakov regiment, Akhtyrka, Ostrogorsk.
1:22 These are all Slobodsiye regiments. They were administratively controlled by Moscow. I.e. not by means of the Hetman of Malorossiya, but directly.
1:30 And Kiev regiment, the capital city was not Kiev by the way, but Kozelets.
1:35 Why was the capital not in Kiev, but Kozelets? By the way, all Rozumovskiys originate from Kozelets, Hetman Rozumovskiy, his elder brother Aleskey, they are all from Kozelets.
1:46 There was a road going across this city to Petersburg.
1:49 Kiev was a frontier city. After Andrusovskiy truce in 1667, the border between Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, in simple words Poland, and Russia, Russian state, it was so called at the times of Aleksey Mikhailovich by the way,
2:06 the word Russian was used at the time of Peter's father, there are a number of documents.
2:11 So, the border passed along the Dnepr.
2:13 And only near Kiev it was like, sorry for my words, a pleasant pimple, like a base, let's say, neutrally to the side of Poland.
2:22 And really, the border passes along the river Irpen. And they said that they went to Poland, when they crossed the Irpen. They appeared in Poland.
2:30 Until the partitioning of the Commonwealth at the time of Ekaterina II, can you imagine? Such situation was until the end of 18th century.
2:37 And as Kiev was a frontier city, it was dangerous to locate a regiment administration.
2:42 That's why the regiment administration was located in the left bank of the Dnepr in Kozelets.
2:46 And by the way, Rozumovskiy, the secret of Rozumovskiys' rise was that they originated from the regiment city, in fact, where the regiment administration was.
2:54 They were in the know. They understood how papers moved, finances, where to go to make a career.
3:02 So, Malorossiya is Kiev regiment, Chernigov regiment, Poltava regiment, Gadyach regiment excelled from Poltava regiment.
3:13 It is more pleasant for me, because my ancestors are from Akhtyrka hundreds of Gadyach regiment, in father's line.
3:19 They seemed to also emigrate after Berestechko from right-bank Ukraine, because the surname Buzina is met in Uman regimetn in 17th century, in 1649.
3:30 But Uman regiment broke into pieces after... during the Great Ruin, after the death of Bogdan Khmelnitskiy.
3:40 And seems that my ancestors moved there. It was really migration, transfer. They gathered their things.
3:46 All right-bank Ukraine which didn't want to stay under Poland, moved to the left bank. The left bank was not populated, Malorossiya appeared this way.
3:57 Why was it not populated? There were Tatars. They moved all the time, actively.
4:00 And the first colonization, i.e. resettlement, started around 60 years before Bogdan Khmelnitskiy. Its organizer was Prince Vishnevetskiy.
4:13 Father and grandfather of the famous Iyeremeya Vishnevetskiy. And the father and grandfather were Christian.
4:19 I.e. they were closely connected with their people.
4:22 And they opened colonization of the present Poltava region. The capital was in Lubny, there was a prince castle. Certainly, it was destroyed during the rebel of Bogdan Khmelnitskiy.
4:33 These regiments: Chernigov, Starodub, made up Malorossiya.
4:40 Zaporozhian Sich was separate from it. It was in different jurisdiction: either in double Polish-Russian, or in Turkish, for example.
4:50 Or it took Swedish orientation during Mazepa in 1708. Everything was there.
4:55 This is Malorossiya, in present left-bank Ukraine.
4:58 And by the way, when in the end of 18th century, at the time of Ekaterina II Kiev region on the right-bank, Cherkassy region, Podolsk province according to revolution scheme, Volyn, Holmsk were annexed,
5:19 when all these were annexed to the Russian empire due to three separations of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, this was started to call Ukraine.
5:29 And when in 1812 Aleksandr I formed militiamen because of Napoleon invasion, cossack Malorossiyan regiments were formed on the left-bank, and cossack Ukrainian regiments on the right-bank.
5:43 This is the situation if we speak about it for the beginning of 19th century.
5:48 If we talk about the situation for the end of 16th century, a short and narrow line of the border was called Ukraine, approximately, near famous Subotovo, Cherkassy at the times of Bogdan Khmelnitskiy.
6:02 In this area, on maps of the end of 16th century - beginning of 17th century...
6:07 - i.e. far from Kiev? - Yes... seriously far. I would say 200 km, if not mistaken.
6:13 Maps were certainly West-European, because our ancestors started to make maps significantly later, in 18th century, they made their own maps.
6:24 But these were Russian maps, i.e. these are map-makers who were taught by West-European specialists.
6:30 After Peter I, from the time of Peter I and later, they started to make Russian maps.
6:35 And before they used European maps.
6:38 Everybody knows well the Boplan map, and before Boplan there was also the history of map making.
6:45 And on the maps before Boplan, there was an inscription in little little words in this area of Cherkassy-Kanev - Ukraine.
6:53 In the area where the Ros mouths into the Dnepr, approximately there.
6:59 Where Kagarlyk is, to the south from Kiev, without doubts.
7:03 And if names like Novgorod-Severskiy princedom, they wrote like this. It was written in big letters.
7:11 Or Podolye, it was written in big letters. But Ukraine was in tiny letters. Because the term was not widely spread.
7:18 Like the term France. Initially il de France, the island of France. It has nothing to do with the present huge territory in 12th century, for example.
7:28 So, it was like a French pigeon which was not eaten in a restaraunt yet, did dirt near Paris. This was the France of 12th century.
7:38 And Ukraine, tiny tiny, frontier. Boderland in English, the land at the border.
7:45 And Walter explains the origin of Ukraine this way, the word Ukraine.
7:49 Boplan explains this way, everybody, all Italian travellers, everybody knew that it was Oukraine, Ukraina, it was pronounced, written in different ways.
8:00 Sometimes through 'O', simetimes through 'U" in the beginning, sometimes through 'Ou'.
8:05 The language was a little bit different. Imagine, it was not Ukrainian yet.
8:10 I.e. there are no texts witten in Ukrainian. Not any.
8:14 No matter how many times you are shown the Peresopnytsia Gospels, it could be called proto-Ukrainian language, but not Ukrainian in any way.
8:22 And what is the most interesting, bi-linguility was common for this territory of Ukraine, Malaya Rus. Even three-linguility. If we take Bogdan Khmelnitskiy, he spoke Polish, Rusyn, it was so called, Rusyn language.
8:39 And Tatar languange, and Tatar was perceived like a dialect of Turkish.
8:43 Now, as linguists say, these are a little different things, but a little.
8:49 And it was a norm in this land, in this point where various influences crossrods, to know several languages, as it is now.
Oles Olekseyevich Buzina - writer, publicist, historian Short history of Ukraine Kiev, December 22, 2014
0:04 - Oles Alekseyevich, lately there are such terms as Malorossiya and Novorossiya which have come back in usage. When did they appear and what terriroties include?
0:13 - If speaking about Malorossiya, the matter is more common for our people.
0:19 Because... Malorossiya often mentioned in works of Gogol, Shevchenko.
0:26 Paustovskiy has such episode when Nikolay II comes to the 1st Kiev gymnasium, and passing by pupils, he comes up to Paustovskiy and asks who he is by nationality. He answers - Maloros.
0:40 Kiev, at the same time as Bulgakov, before World War I Paustovskiy finished 1st Kiev gymnasium.
0:48 So, it is more or less clear with Malorossiya. Malorossiya is traditionally a left-bank Ukraine without Slobozhanschina.
0:56 What is left-bank Ukraine? This is 10 cossack regiments, which became so called Getmanschina (Zaporizhian Host).
1:03 Because Slobodskaya Ukraine is the present Kharkov region. It was directly controlled by Moscow.
1:08 These were lands of Moscow empire which were populated by cossacks who escaped from Poland.
1:15 They escaped from the right-bank, and settled near Kharkov. There was Krakov regiment, Akhtyrka, Ostrogorsk.
1:22 These are all Slobodsiye regiments. They were administratively controlled by Moscow. I.e. not by means of the Hetman of Malorossiya, but directly.
1:30 And Kiev regiment, the capital city was not Kiev by the way, but Kozelets.
1:35 Why was the capital not in Kiev, but Kozelets? By the way, all Rozumovskiys originate from Kozelets, Hetman Rozumovskiy, his elder brother Aleskey, they are all from Kozelets.
1:46 There was a road going across this city to Petersburg.
1:49 Kiev was a frontier city. After Andrusovskiy truce in 1667, the border between Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, in simple words Poland, and Russia, Russian state, it was so called at the times of Aleksey Mikhailovich by the way,
2:06 the word Russian was used at the time of Peter's father, there are a number of documents.
2:11 So, the border passed along the Dnepr.
2:13 And only near Kiev it was like, sorry for my words, a pleasant pimple, like a base, let's say, neutrally to the side of Poland.
2:22 And really, the border passes along the river Irpen. And they said that they went to Poland, when they crossed the Irpen. They appeared in Poland.
2:30 Until the partitioning of the Commonwealth at the time of Ekaterina II, can you imagine? Such situation was until the end of 18th century.
2:37 And as Kiev was a frontier city, it was dangerous to locate a regiment administration.
2:42 That's why the regiment administration was located in the left bank of the Dnepr in Kozelets.
2:46 And by the way, Rozumovskiy, the secret of Rozumovskiys' rise was that they originated from the regiment city, in fact, where the regiment administration was.
2:54 They were in the know. They understood how papers moved, finances, where to go to make a career.
3:02 So, Malorossiya is Kiev regiment, Chernigov regiment, Poltava regiment, Gadyach regiment excelled from Poltava regiment.
3:13 It is more pleasant for me, because my ancestors are from Akhtyrka hundreds of Gadyach regiment, in father's line.
3:19 They seemed to also emigrate after Berestechko from right-bank Ukraine, because the surname Buzina is met in Uman regimetn in 17th century, in 1649.
3:30 But Uman regiment broke into pieces after... during the Great Ruin, after the death of Bogdan Khmelnitskiy.
3:40 And seems that my ancestors moved there. It was really migration, transfer. They gathered their things.
3:46 All right-bank Ukraine which didn't want to stay under Poland, moved to the left bank. The left bank was not populated, Malorossiya appeared this way.
3:57 Why was it not populated? There were Tatars. They moved all the time, actively.
4:00 And the first colonization, i.e. resettlement, started around 60 years before Bogdan Khmelnitskiy. Its organizer was Prince Vishnevetskiy.
4:13 Father and grandfather of the famous Iyeremeya Vishnevetskiy. And the father and grandfather were Christian.
4:19 I.e. they were closely connected with their people.
4:22 And they opened colonization of the present Poltava region. The capital was in Lubny, there was a prince castle. Certainly, it was destroyed during the rebel of Bogdan Khmelnitskiy.
4:33 These regiments: Chernigov, Starodub, made up Malorossiya.
4:40 Zaporozhian Sich was separate from it. It was in different jurisdiction: either in double Polish-Russian, or in Turkish, for example.
4:50 Or it took Swedish orientation during Mazepa in 1708. Everything was there.
4:55 This is Malorossiya, in present left-bank Ukraine.
4:58 And by the way, when in the end of 18th century, at the time of Ekaterina II Kiev region on the right-bank, Cherkassy region, Podolsk province according to revolution scheme, Volyn, Holmsk were annexed,
5:19 when all these were annexed to the Russian empire due to three separations of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, this was started to call Ukraine.
5:29 And when in 1812 Aleksandr I formed militiamen because of Napoleon invasion, cossack Malorossiyan regiments were formed on the left-bank, and cossack Ukrainian regiments on the right-bank.
5:43 This is the situation if we speak about it for the beginning of 19th century.
5:48 If we talk about the situation for the end of 16th century, a short and narrow line of the border was called Ukraine, approximately, near famous Subotovo, Cherkassy at the times of Bogdan Khmelnitskiy.
6:02 In this area, on maps of the end of 16th century - beginning of 17th century...
6:07 - i.e. far from Kiev? - Yes... seriously far. I would say 200 km, if not mistaken.
6:13 Maps were certainly West-European, because our ancestors started to make maps significantly later, in 18th century, they made their own maps.
6:24 But these were Russian maps, i.e. these are map-makers who were taught by West-European specialists.
6:30 After Peter I, from the time of Peter I and later, they started to make Russian maps.
6:35 And before they used European maps.
6:38 Everybody knows well the Boplan map, and before Boplan there was also the history of map making.
6:45 And on the maps before Boplan, there was an inscription in little little words in this area of Cherkassy-Kanev - Ukraine.
6:53 In the area where the Ros mouths into the Dnepr, approximately there.
6:59 Where Kagarlyk is, to the south from Kiev, without doubts.
7:03 And if names like Novgorod-Severskiy princedom, they wrote like this. It was written in big letters.
7:11 Or Podolye, it was written in big letters. But Ukraine was in tiny letters. Because the term was not widely spread.
7:18 Like the term France. Initially il de France, the island of France. It has nothing to do with the present huge territory in 12th century, for example.
7:28 So, it was like a French pigeon which was not eaten in a restaraunt yet, did dirt near Paris. This was the France of 12th century.
7:38 And Ukraine, tiny tiny, frontier. Boderland in English, the land at the border.
7:45 And Walter explains the origin of Ukraine this way, the word Ukraine.
7:49 Boplan explains this way, everybody, all Italian travellers, everybody knew that it was Oukraine, Ukraina, it was pronounced, written in different ways.
8:00 Sometimes through 'O', simetimes through 'U" in the beginning, sometimes through 'Ou'.
8:05 The language was a little bit different. Imagine, it was not Ukrainian yet.
8:10 I.e. there are no texts witten in Ukrainian. Not any.
8:14 No matter how many times you are shown the Peresopnytsia Gospels, it could be called proto-Ukrainian language, but not Ukrainian in any way.
8:22 And what is the most interesting, bi-linguility was common for this territory of Ukraine, Malaya Rus. Even three-linguility. If we take Bogdan Khmelnitskiy, he spoke Polish, Rusyn, it was so called, Rusyn language.
8:39 And Tatar languange, and Tatar was perceived like a dialect of Turkish.
8:43 Now, as linguists say, these are a little different things, but a little.
8:49 And it was a norm in this land, in this point where various influences crossrods, to know several languages, as it is now.
By the way, I previously posted good articles on the Ukrainian history:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/11/05/free-earth-shift-report-2-the-falsified-history-of-ukraine-and-its-lessons
http://www.opednews.com/articles/3/Ukraine-The-US-Vote-at-the-by-George-Eliason-Denial_Genocide_Genocide_Holocaust-141126-844.html
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ukraine–Why-Bandera-Have-by-George-Eliason-Communism_Extreme_Hitler_Ideology-140801-8.html
And a book on Ukrainian history by Orest Subtelny
http://books.google.com/books/about/Ukraine.html?id=l5uiWHgRphQC&redir_esc=y
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