Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated (Read 1058927 times)

Sounds very interesting and as nescessity is the mother of all invention then quite useful. Looks like something not only Devcoin could look into but probably collaborate with the likes of Namecoin even.

So I reached out the Fernando on X. But I have an idea we can seize an opportunity that would really be amazing and I was able to use ChatGPT to create a PoC for what I would want to see us build.

ChatGPT even coded it lol.

You ever here the first one to seize the opportunity when an old popular service goes perma into read-only and perhaps is done with it's days storing new information - or snapshots?


>>ZeroHedge article on the end of Wayback Machine, spider crawling, snapshots, and the record of the web as it was without stealth editing:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/internet-getting-flushed-down-orwells-memory-hole



Somethings that we can do this cheap and create an exact functioning product without risk of shutting down like their DDOS and password attack hacks.

We have the blockchain - we have the coins in our control. We have merge mining and the CSV files for participation and use.

We can to a front end - we can have toolbar - we can hash the timestamp and url on the DVC chain, we can query that from the UI toolbar and each url hash is located and displays the time of each snap form the url per the timestamp.

And the snapshot can be retrieved from the reading of the DVC block timestamp for the url req and then display that on the Web UI and be just like the Wayback Machine and web dot archive dot org.

Except unlike ZeroHedge article - IT cant be hacked - its decentralized - we even make people buy DVC for running their queries to get them to buy off FreiExchange with BTC. There's also incentive to use our CSV distributions to send out DVC rewards for running more DVC nodes. And then we can use an ArDrive and have our own tokens for using it that are also pegged to the value of DVC so we profit that way too.


Call me crazy but when you step in first when there's a longtime highly needed product that is no longer crawling and storing - we can use this concept to be first to replace it.

DVC - to the moon?

I don't want anyone seeing the code ChatGPT4o came up with Fernando has all of it.

Obv it'll change.



But this was just an abstract:

Having responded to an update request on IXCoin's thread it has occurred to me that since obviously all the merged mined SHA256 coins are related some DeVCoin afficionados might be wondering whether DeVCoin got left behind by the intrepid Ixians...

...So this post is to assure you that, like the Ixians, the Devonians or however one likes to style them - DeVCoin supporters - were indeed right in there alongside the Ixians, building their own "clan", the Devos.

Further, in case any of you had of course long known that, I thought I would try to help ameliorate any disappointment you might have been feeling upon noticing that the Devos, unlike the Ixians, are not shown as having any children.

Well set your minds at ease!

There are a variety of "types" of group (clan is the catch-all term equivalent to group) in CoffeeMUD, and of them all I think it is only the "Family" type that enrolls the children of its members as "officers", and thus it is only the "families" that show off their children on that "current clans" information page.

It is actually extremely likely that all the current "clans" (groups) have children, it is just that even if the children automatically enter into the group (clan) of the parent-figure who "brought them up", they usually do not enter as "officers", rather as some lower rank.

So be assured that there are indeed children growing up to join the Devos Gang!

-MarkM-

Re downloading wallets, if you want the source code you could check whether I got around to updating the archive of it inside LFM Knotwork or search github etc to see who has latest version. Come to think, I likely had an archive on my sourceforge account but again not sure whether I updated it whenever version I currently run came out.

For compiled versions, which are more usual for Windows or Mac users, you'd have to hope some helpful Windows or Mac user responds.

-MarkM-

 @MarkM, pm sent.

Sure, I'd like to participate, am willing to download & sync the blockchain. Sorry for my laziness but where do you recommend I download the QT wallet from?

I just now stumbled upon a DeVCoin faucet.

It is part of a DeVCoin Portal that claims to be Copyright 2013 the DeVCoin developers.

It wants to batch up 30 requests for free DeVCoin to send all at once, so I presumably would not all b y myself be able to test it to see if it works; can we drum up 30 bitcointalk members to give it a whirl to check it is still working after all these years?

-MarkM-

Feels like every promising 2010's altcoin project and Web 3 etc etc died now that BlackRock has officially got its ugly ass head into Bitcoin.

This is such a shame. So many bright minds. So much promise.

We still have a chance for some emerging markets like Argentina and South America to detatch from BlackRock coin and Conbase + Binance and the other scams that have just f'd the whole vision for a wonderful project that I peg the beginning of the scam u for your USD with the creation of Ethereum. Sad but that doesn't mean our work here is over. We can start in EM and communities - hopefully what I'm working on at the moment gives us capital and if we solve the central gateway product we may have something local and possible now that Argentina has legalized any currency one wants to try implementing locally in the Milei Libertarian Admin deregulation decree in Dec 2023/and early 2024 - to get our own growth and value out of this project. I hate to say it but that's the best shot I think we have. I am considering relocation for some investments down there and have some cool people I've met who are impressed with the last years growth I have been able to make in solid, non sexy but ground up (outpacing bitcoin and NVDA even) since 2023 and in Q1 2024. My goal was to find a way to launch something here for this project with some money behind it to get people using but if we can solve the whole onboarding middle man shit that has imo ruined Bitcoin - perhaps we grow locally, regionally and country wide to serve purpose of Devcoin - pay decentralized developers to make this project better and better.

The whole reason I went on a lesser push for marketing Devcoin was because I have been taking it upon myself to partner up since 2023 began and we have seen a lot of self-capitalization success in the gains me and a buddy made with all our money we put in to start the fund grows and so has our network. You'd be surprised who we have interested in having us out to learn under them as well as on site (I would say courtship) of us to at least be part of their Argentine luxury real estate developmentsd and housing development in Mendoza's wine region with a 5 star resort on site. Argentina is a great place to exist we can go very official there in ways that the Northern hemisphere would prob not be favorable to. And it won't cost too much but I said F it we need capital and along the way I've learned there's chances for us yet. Esp in the dev community and local exchange. People are buying currencies or whatever to cash for dollars or bot trade - they are using them. If we have a usable currency with a purpose - we gain a base of people using our free from corruption and BlackRock / central middlemen full of corrupt actors like Coinbase Binance and FTX. And TETHER. Nah lets just go where we're welcome. Lets grow it before BTC and its bullshit spreads where the use of Devcoin can begin as intended. It will have value - who knows where it will go but use is the first step. Capital will help. We need gateways solved tho. Fiat to DVC and vice versa needs AUTOmation, transparency, and no centralized Coinbase/FTX bogus on ramps - if we solve this. We got the biggest problem in the state of BTC fixed. In a place using DVC will be far cheaper and far less corrupted!

It sickens me to see the frauds since 2017 Binance - Tether - FTX - and so on just purely be to ciphon USD from crypto token investors and shady centralized exchange practices - but we do have our own blockchain. We have talent. I'm not ready to give up. And I know at least now, local crypto is legal nation wide in Argentina. Perhaps having develCuy down in Peru and me at least having some part time presence in Argentina along with a pretty amazing and wealthy wall st vet who is impressed with me and my partner so much for investing in Argentina before 2023 began even and seeing the potential that he invited us next fall to go to a Entrepeneur and young Executive on site training program with former Lehman SVP and Board of Directors exp 1990's Wall St titans and Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae former executives on his staff - we can maybe even get funding there. I think a need for a local currency for devs and dev work which I could put money into in USD might be a possible lifeline to resurrect us.

But I'm done with BlackRock controlled BTC. And Conbase etc. They failed us. They steal. We need to try ground up local - regional growth in a legalized local crypto currency Argentina I think. Even use within Argentina would be awesome. Libertarian free market economics and pro private sector figuring out what they want to do and who to trade with with reduced public sector interference? Sign us up.

The Milei admin is Austrian Economics - we could probably find Szabo at some point even to come help. We don't have to start over we just need to figure out a way to grow.

I'm down after I hit the ground there in Q3 2024 and move part time by 2025. I hope we can muster a comeback. Remote work for y'all obviously is possible but I figure being on the ground to market and financially back a start in this we might have a chance. Bitcoin is expensive, local currencies and blockchains are already a thing in the first legal days of the Milei legalization of all currencies.

I love our project and team. Who is to say it's over?

This Project would have Worked if there had not been the Anti-FinShaggy Crowd.

Someone ought to pick up this Project but in the Spirit of Bitcoin Town and not Fighting those Concepts. This was such a Great Currency, awarding People for making 3D Printer Designs, and Software, etc. It was Supposed to Mine Bitcoin when Bitcoin Shut Down, that was the Whole Claim. And then they Lied about FinShaggy and said he Hired someone on Fiverr which was not True, She was a Real Fan of the Project.

Anyone who was Part of this should look at HoloZing and VKBT on TribalDEX, there are Programmers like Aggroed and Harpagon who have put some Things on GitHub and whatnot that would interest many of the Developers around DevCoin. Let's move Everything that was going on here, I remember there was Gold and Silver, there were Amazon Gift Cards that People were actually making (not Scams), and these are what Brought the Value to Devcoin, these Use Cases made it Useful. When BITCOIN was Still getting it's Legs, Devcoin was there with it Standing. Because of the Spirit of Bitcoin Town and all the People that came with that.

Hi guys. Hope you all are well. I don't know what to say other than as a retail investor in US capital markets and some worldwide fringe equities I invested with thru friends in other countries - this market is highly games and a lot more bs than I thought. The software development here tho is for real. So is our community. Why? We haven't made a penny, but besides that - I would rather know you all as community than not. So I am here and maybe one day we will push this project forward. I have respect for everyone still around here in the past years. I hope we get things going again - but also I wish you all success if you've moved on to bigger things. I have not sold one DVC since arriving here 5 years ago, and I am not upset that its impossible to sell at a profit. I do not regret being here. $6000 US is about what I pitched in at 1 satoshi or less and I am happy to have backed any of you on the other side of that trade. =P

DevTome is read-only, no-one (other than maybe who-ever is hosting it or admin of it) has write access to update it.

P.S. I posted an introduction to DeVCoin article on HIVE platform: https://peakd.com/galactic-milieu/@knotwork/intro-to-galactic-milieu-currencies-devcoin-dvc

-MarkM-

Hello devcoiners,

So what is the current state of devtome re taking on new writers?

I was recently contacted by a new member to the forum who was looking to get signed up and I noticed that I am still listed as an admin to sign on new members here https://www.devtome.com/how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing

I loaded up my devcoin wallet and see that I have not received any coins for over 3 years now for any admin work hence I assume I have been removed of my duties and there is no signing up of new users.

Perhaps you could update the information on devtome to reflect this and correct https://www.devtome.com/how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing

All the best

Fuzzybear

Only mark truly knows where this is going. He's written about 3,000 pages of documentation on GM. I would love to see it in action.

started looking at namecoin and devcoin.. seems doable, but holding off for now, until there is more clarity..

so adding namecoin support requires miners to upgrade first? wondering if such an upgrade will push miner adoption.

I read it all and I like the concept of using the NFTs in a game with actual use cases. With that said, I don't quite get how all of it ties specifically into or helps DVC...

Just left my takes on the specifics in the comments section with quotations from a very thorough article of MarkM's vision in a Hive blog titled:

Maybe the Galactic Milieu CAN integrate non-'free open source' games afterall... [17 days old - sorry took me awhile, real life is a bit much right now!]

It's a great read and a wonderful plan. Pretty simple to understand if you've used tokens and played a game or two on chain by now . If you read the comments section below there's discussion with me and mark. Mark - I left a lot more detailed commentary on the rest of the article since your last response. I recommend everyone read - Mark's got a great idea how to make the core of our Devcoin metaverse he's crafted over the past 13 years relevant to the mainstream crypto gamers. Splinterlands (spoiler) is a VERY popular game in blockchain/web 3 p2e gaming!

Link:

https://hive.blog/galactic/@knotwork/maybe-the-galactic-milieu-can-integrate-non-free-open-source-games-afterall

Currently DeVCoin's only "active" income within the Galactic Milieu, as far as I am aware, is Devos Gang within the MUDgaard CoffeeMUD server.

Among the assets Devos Gang holds are a number of MUDgaard player-accounts, which are an asset for which we have yet to determine a reasonable value.

I have posted on the Hive blockchain and on Quora soliciting thoughts on how player-accounts should be priced or allocated; I hope you-all will take a moment to read and respond to the question.

Reproduction exists in MUDgaard, so at long last the arbitrary creation of characters "out of nothing" has been disabled.

Thus the two races of characters Devos Gang has been breeding (ogres and goblins) are no longer something any arbitrary player can suddenly come up with on their own; those who have none (which is everyone other than the Devos Gang) will need to convince the Devos to let them play one of their growing number of children if they want to deploy characters of those races.

Thus now not only do we need to come up with some "reasonable" system for determining allocation of player-accounts, we are in the character-breeding business; like in Axie Infinity, character breeding has become a potentially-significant part of the MUDgaard play-to-earn ecosystem.

Those players who were canny enough to secure player-accounts during the over a decade now that MUDgaard has been running are now in a position to leverage their holdings more powerfully than ever.

Securing of additional player-accounts will be under some pressure going forward from the demand created by character-breeding, as each player-account only supports ten characters (only five of which can be online simultaneously). Once an account is full, it will have no room for newly come of age children to become playable characters within the account of the parent or guardian they are following at the time of their coming-of-age.

See also https://peakd.com/galactic-milieu/@knotwork/leveraging-devcoins-mudgaard-galactic-milieu-holdings

-MarkM-

just exploring the idea. @jaybny is an experienced coder. Said he'd look at it for us.

Why not?

Permission maybe to tinker with it on testnet?

Would it help if I bought a used ASIC off ebay to get 22.x adoption?

Thanks for the proposal Dan. Currently Devcoin blockchain is constrained to very old Bitcoin standards. The source code might be updated, but miners haven't adopted it yet. Once we have them using 22.x, we can activate more functionality that will then enable stuff like the one you propose.

Just my 2c

- DevElCuy