Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 2. (Read 1059157 times)

I read it all and I like the concept of using the NFTs in a game with actual use cases. With that said, I don't quite get how all of it ties specifically into or helps DVC...

Just left my takes on the specifics in the comments section with quotations from a very thorough article of MarkM's vision in a Hive blog titled:

Maybe the Galactic Milieu CAN integrate non-'free open source' games afterall... [17 days old - sorry took me awhile, real life is a bit much right now!]

It's a great read and a wonderful plan. Pretty simple to understand if you've used tokens and played a game or two on chain by now . If you read the comments section below there's discussion with me and mark. Mark - I left a lot more detailed commentary on the rest of the article since your last response. I recommend everyone read - Mark's got a great idea how to make the core of our Devcoin metaverse he's crafted over the past 13 years relevant to the mainstream crypto gamers. Splinterlands (spoiler) is a VERY popular game in blockchain/web 3 p2e gaming!

Link:

https://hive.blog/galactic/@knotwork/maybe-the-galactic-milieu-can-integrate-non-free-open-source-games-afterall

Currently DeVCoin's only "active" income within the Galactic Milieu, as far as I am aware, is Devos Gang within the MUDgaard CoffeeMUD server.

Among the assets Devos Gang holds are a number of MUDgaard player-accounts, which are an asset for which we have yet to determine a reasonable value.

I have posted on the Hive blockchain and on Quora soliciting thoughts on how player-accounts should be priced or allocated; I hope you-all will take a moment to read and respond to the question.

Reproduction exists in MUDgaard, so at long last the arbitrary creation of characters "out of nothing" has been disabled.

Thus the two races of characters Devos Gang has been breeding (ogres and goblins) are no longer something any arbitrary player can suddenly come up with on their own; those who have none (which is everyone other than the Devos Gang) will need to convince the Devos to let them play one of their growing number of children if they want to deploy characters of those races.

Thus now not only do we need to come up with some "reasonable" system for determining allocation of player-accounts, we are in the character-breeding business; like in Axie Infinity, character breeding has become a potentially-significant part of the MUDgaard play-to-earn ecosystem.

Those players who were canny enough to secure player-accounts during the over a decade now that MUDgaard has been running are now in a position to leverage their holdings more powerfully than ever.

Securing of additional player-accounts will be under some pressure going forward from the demand created by character-breeding, as each player-account only supports ten characters (only five of which can be online simultaneously). Once an account is full, it will have no room for newly come of age children to become playable characters within the account of the parent or guardian they are following at the time of their coming-of-age.

See also https://peakd.com/galactic-milieu/@knotwork/leveraging-devcoins-mudgaard-galactic-milieu-holdings

-MarkM-

just exploring the idea. @jaybny is an experienced coder. Said he'd look at it for us.

Why not?

Permission maybe to tinker with it on testnet?

Would it help if I bought a used ASIC off ebay to get 22.x adoption?

Thanks for the proposal Dan. Currently Devcoin blockchain is constrained to very old Bitcoin standards. The source code might be updated, but miners haven't adopted it yet. Once we have them using 22.x, we can activate more functionality that will then enable stuff like the one you propose.

Just my 2c

- DevElCuy

I need a time machine...

BTW - willing to pay out of pocket for simple addition of this (just d/ "dot bit" domain but for Devcoin) key value pair registration on the latest Devcoin Core 22.x. It would ideally have manage and register names in the GUI like Namecoin 23.99 by domob1812.


2014 - the original idea:

https://forum.namecoin.org/viewtopic.php?p=11606&sid=c8ea1be2c6cf47e505a66ca65e5931ad#p11606

Namecoin 23.99 client for simple d/ directory registration in the Devcoin Core QT is what I want:

https://github.com/domob1812/namecoin-core/tree/23.x

Devcoin Core 22.x branch that I would like to add the Manage and Register names tabs to for Devcoin "d/" domains. Make them ".dvc" since Google has made ".dev" a gTLD on the clearnet:

https://github.com/devcoin/core/tree/22.x

I hope me posting this is ok. I'd love to pay someone to implement this it sounds rather simple for a dev like domob to implement. The emblem.finance guys said they'd make a Devcoin addition to their "Emblem Vault" to wrap these assets (and devcoin wallet containing these d/ ".dvc" domains) to put on open sea for Polygon or Ethereum. ("COVAL" Vault, "Circuits of Value") just like the Namecoin assets listed on OpenSea.... Good way to get DVC markets hoping again people buying DVC to make these domains ("NFT") so they can test build sites before maybe making .bit sites as people begin to develop on the dot-bit DNS instead of merely making speculative registrations... Can see good use here.

I'm surprised that Devtome wasn't funded for years in advance. When it was at its peak, the earnings for its shares were fairly large, were they not? Or was all of the DVC kept as-is and only liquidated as needed? I don't even know how much value Devtome started bringing to the project as a whole since it had... a LOT of spam. But it was good in concept. If something like it were brought back I have a lot of ideas on how to actually enhance it for both end-users and sustainability.

I think Cyclos branched into being commercial, leaving the free open source version behind maybe; though I have not checked for years.

Maybe the free open source version did end up building a team to maintain it.

Right at the moment I have too many other things to do and to research so I likely won't look into Cyclos again until/unless what it used to be good for comes up again and something becoming more needed.

https://www.cyclos.org/faq/#costs

-MarkM-

ping... markm

You were wondering on May 25, 2014 in a deleted post what your cyclos bank was. I think we need to add more dApps to Devcoin. Lets start with the old - People could use DVC and Cyclos.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;msg=2004119

Dear Devcoin community,

2023 is starting with the following challenge:

For the last few years devtome.com has been running on humble infrastructure provided by the Devcoin Foundation (DF). Given the current bear market and expected market down trend to Bitcoin at $12k or even $9k, the DF budget has become very constrained and we can't afford to keep devtome.com online anymore. Just for the record, DEVTome server requires a budget of US$25 monthly or US$300 a year. We are open to accept donations from the community in order to keep it online, but if we don't get enough money by end of week, it will shutdown till we can raise the funds.

Thanks for your understanding,

--
DevElCuy
Marshall, Devcoin Foundation

Happy 2023 Devcoiners.

prob easiest way to reach him is on Hive: https://hive.blog/@novacadian

Devtome has been discontinued and is in archive mode now.

You are welcome to contribute new content at Devcoin's peak community site: https://peakd.com/c/hive-152825/created as well as Devcoin's steem community https://steemit.com/trending/hive-152825

Go for it!

Hi, I am trying to login to devtome with no luck, is Nova still around?

Still here lurking xx

he's arite. I hope this is for the best of everyone. It's quite a production. =)

I wish I had at least half of his hair on my baldy head

Just a reminder Devcoin isn't just keeping up with the times, Devcoin is also the pioneer blockchain-based currency thanks to our founder and his "virtual worlds" development with the same open source systems he's using with our DVC and all its treasuries for his metaverse game economy http://forum.metalforge.net/viewtopic.php?t=1856

Legend:



Metaverse and crypto take time do they not? We're not posers like that bufflehead-lisp boy hiding in the Bahamas at FTX. We're led by actual leaders and coders, visionaries.

I tried to get them to update it with no luck :/

In regards to CMC's outdated info about Devcoin,

There is only one official account from the Devcoin Foundation (@devcoin.org) registered on CMC and so it should be the one with access to any self-reporting dashboard they provide.

- develCuy

Sometimes pictures make you remember you invented Web3's important serverless, and secure social client side log in by signing a message and domob aka Daniel Kraft from Namecoin nameid.org dAPP and now Xaya has moved on with his work while you keep building the perfect back end for what he relies on to secure the front end dude to advances in how to execute your original secure front end message signing gateway to the Web 3:



What am I talking about? The fact you two tied in social + gaming into one social game and gave people the proof that years later you would give people a way to tie identity to ownership of game items inside and outside of different 'grids' (I know my 2010 Second Life and Metaverse gaming ling now) - and bc of blockchains and markets you can log into that show all items you own in games on front end wallets like MetaMask to Web3 - you can can think of the universal XR (cross reality) and AR, VR, even web UI entry to the ebay type places where you sell directly with crypto and SECURELY without any trust required if the buyer doesn't meet the swap, or bc if you didn't have the item - you would never be able to display it let alone list it and authorize bc of the on chain ledger (front end, that's the GSP of the marketplace gameverse - it should be up to date and not allow u to forge anything the back end - say MM UTXO Sha256 chains built from Namecoin, Bitcoin, and Devcoin etc to back the validity of its front end Game State of your account ....

https://twitter.com/777mellon/status/1580498794072137728?s=20&t=ybw8woYTVZpFdEP7LqkRww

Those tweets are the reason I made you and domob almost "handshake" at that moment but at least you "GODdotKnotworkdotCom" met your first "Adam" in the real world making front end dapps and protocols to make your lifelong work possible.

What do you think. We wait or can we just go all out?



Can you integrate a message signing with my Web3 chrome wallet into the game and adjust the gameplay to be aware of the need to trigger the extension using .js when I login into the GUI but within a modern Chrome browser? Maybe from there I sign a message with my key that proves ownership of the Ambassador's Residence property and the game also notices that item if I am on Polygon network so in essence I sign the method I own priv keys that own the Polygon ERC1155 NFT and the code in the game knows what property "15001" after they see me sign the message allowing it to access the items in my wallet and read correctly where that item is on the map. From there I control the right in-game for all attributes and owner rights to use the property for in-game leasing, sales, even tie it to my id by making XID from Xaya the model for that type of feature. If I recall, it was your idea and domob was working on it for purely loging in to OpenID sites with Chrome local/client-side priv keys that a server never would see.

Maybe that's key. The game running on Java and js chrome should have a way to run an android emulator or patch the code to work where Web3 wallets could log in to the game now that you have Polygon Web3 NFT, marketplace account attachment to the minted NFT. I think you're almost there buddy. I know Huntercoin now "human mines" with Unity3d and a special GUI but only for windows. The cool thing about Xaya and ERC NFT using Polygon is a real cheap way to create the front end to enter you metaverse game into the future you are looking for (text instructions underneath processed using d-apps and clever architecture like Xaya X (chain agnostic code) and Gamestate processors to give the state of the game updates the instant the tx is valid leaving the xayad nodes and back end UTXO chains just to store and record while the game moves us in real time without glitch dude to Xaya X and GameStateProcessors taking the valid tx and instantly processing the state so it needs not wait for blocktimes. Polygon frontend can handle processing in 10-15 sec, but the backend MM chains Xaya Core on top of Namecoin and Bitcoin v 23 still merge mines the entire data as the txn stores in blocks.

YOu know this but I figured since I'm seeing it come to life even the use of a GSP gives us a chance to render a 3D map and UI for your game from within a web browser as simple as oncyber.io etc, bc the GSP flat out works in that model and you can still fall back and trust the game state will remain when u show up and login by signing a message with the Web3 Polygon front end bc your blockchain is robust, hardened, and readable for anything the node would need to recall from the back end blocks if there was a "missing' item or part of the current game state. Chances are those queries are going to be very fast as they are built on the two most powerfully hash powered blockchains in crypto .