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legendary
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March 01, 2015, 04:30:23 AM
iamback raised an issue some two weeks or so ago that has stuck with me...  Namely to improve (educate) oneself.  I am considering learning Python, a computer programming language.  Python appears to be relatively easy by programming standards and also appears to be friendly to math & statistics programs I am interested in (to learn more about our company's sales data).  This (of course) will not be easy...  But, I can take my time, and just learn what I need and/or want.

Most of the "guts" of Bitcoin and the blockchain are black boxes to me, I know next to nothing about how they work under the hood...*

OROBTC I think your are wise to focus on the importance of programming. I believe that in the very near future programming will rank alongside reading, writing, and arithmetic as essential and basic skills required by all if they wish to succeed. Programming is a language and with all languages the best results come to those who start early.

I am in the same situation as you with no programming knowledge and unable to follow the technicals of Bitcoin or the blockchain.
Depending on your free time and commitments it may or may not be the best use of your time to correct this deficiency in yourself.  I have decided to instead to focus on making sure my children do not suffer from the same illiteracy.

In my area there are several programming classes for children.
https://www.codingwithkids.com/#!/
They start with scratch (a very simple programming interface) and move on to JavaScript, HTML, and CSS.

As kids get more advanced there are local options for them to take python classes.
http://techventurekids.org/codecamps/

These opportunities are not available in all areas and are one of the major reasons I relocated my family to the pacific northwest.

Re arming up, YES, I agree that as many Americans (inc. women) as possible should have firearms, be proficient in their use and have deep stocks of ammunition.  Currently there is an attempt at an "Ammo Grab" here underway, namely a version of AR-15 ammo much used by recreational shooters (it's cheap ammo).

It is always smart to be self sufficient especially when it comes to the ability to defend yourself. However, I agree with iamback's comments (re-posted below). Armed individuals will not stop the overall deterioration. Depending your your situation the best choices are probably
1) Quietly hunker down, hide your assets, keep a low profile and ride out the storm (the storm may last a very long time)
or
2) Arrange for an exit for yourself and/or your children      

You will not stop the State from spiraling into the abyss, because the majority is going to demand expropriation. You can't suddenly change the situation of the majority. The majority has no other option and all the (political or even violent) fighting you do can't give them another option.

The economic reality and trajectory was written into stone decades ago. It can't be altered. The economic reality is what it is.

My advice to everyone is pay off all your debt because (we are) in a deflationary collapse that is underway (see oil under $50 today!)
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Also radically reduce the risk to unjust IRS audits and assessments, because these will become more common.

Also radically reduce the risk to lawsuits, because these will become more common as westerners get desperate.

Then the next priority is to align your vocation with the Knowledge Age and so you have income even during global economic collapse and your skills are transportable to any location you might choose to move to as the chaos takes form.
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March 01, 2015, 02:08:30 AM
OROBTC, frankly the two most important things you can probably do are:

1. Make sure you understand Armstrong's predictions exactly (not vaguely).

2. Understand my technical and cryptocurreny posts. (for example I think putting documents on the blockchain is nonsense)

(apologies for the hubris but I need to be efficient and I am in rush)

Learning programming can be lucrative. I would suggest learning web programming.

I was reading Armstrong's blog in August 2012 when he predicted the doubling of the US share markets over next few years (now it is clear the peak won't be until probably 2016 or 2017):



Now he is predicting the German DAX and Europe will peak on 2015.75, then Europe will crash and burn:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/02/28/so-whats-up-with-the-dax/

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Previously I have warned that the DAX would press higher as the object of capital flight within Europe. The problem we are facing is that the DAX could peak-out with this ECM turning point. If this were to unfold with a high in the DAX to the day of the ECM, this will be the kiss-of-death for Europe and it would be the strongest possible warning that a dollar rally will create massive deflation ahead. We can see our Energy Models are pointing to a run-up that is more indicative of a serious high forming rather than just a temporary high.
legendary
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March 01, 2015, 02:01:52 AM
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iamback

Thank you for your comments re programming.  At 59, well, I will have to make a reasoned decision on how to spend time & energy learning a programming language...

I saw earlier this evening (here at bitcointalk) that PHP is tied into OP_RETURN (I am interested in the whole "putting data on the blockchain" subject, my comments are on other threads), but it looks like I would need a Linux box, groan..........

I know a young guy who is interested in digitization of documents.  Posting (hashes of) docs via proofofexistence.com and bitproof.com is an interesting subject that may fit in to a business idea he is looking at.  SOMEONE, IMO, is going to make some serious dough finding the right business model of putting docs, one way or another, on the blockchain.

A company I saw at TNABC (factom.org) is working hard in the same general space.

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But, if my efforts come to naught, that's OK...  I'll just stick with analyzing our bearing sales in Peru and buy some gold when I get some of the profits sent up.

Smiley
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March 01, 2015, 01:47:06 AM
Grrr...  I had a wonderful long post nearly completed and just lost it, "fat finger error", grr...


The "Preview" button saves a draft on the server.

I am considering learning Python, a computer programming language.  Python appears to be relatively easy by programming standards and also appears to be friendly to math & statistics programs I am interested in (to learn more about our company's sales data).  This (of course) will not be easy...  But, I can take my time, and just learn what I need and/or want.

Python might be of some use to me to learn more about Bitcoin, perhaps even the newly hot topic of placing data on the blockchain (via OP_RETURN operations).  Most of the "guts" of Bitcoin and the blockchain are black boxes to me, I know next to nothing about how they work under the hood...*


* Sorry for all of the bad metaphors  Smiley

Most programmers learn C first which one or two steps above the lowest level (closest to twiddling connections at the transistor level in the hardware) programming. In my case, I self-taught first machine code (from a book I read about Microprocessors when I was 13), then self-taught BASIC on an Apple II at age 17, then C.

Python is an interpreted and slightly higher-level language. But semantically from theory of type design something like Scala or Haskell is really high level (e.g. higher-kinded typing).



Alas, I think you have a mountain to climb with understanding the interworkings of Bitcoin and doubt learning rudimentary Python will get you there.

I suggest instead pick some programming that is simpler and interests you. For example, I wrote an accounting and invoicing system for Pest Control client in my first year of college (in DBase II on an Apple II).

I attempted two guides for novices:

http://www.coolpage.com/copute/edu/Intro%20to%20Computers.html
http://www.coolpage.com/copute/edu/HTML%20Intro.html

Khan Academy is also helpful:

https://www.khanacademy.org/computing/computer-programming
legendary
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March 01, 2015, 12:15:13 AM
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Grrr...  I had a wonderful long post nearly completed and just lost it, "fat finger error", grr...


CoinCube

You thread has evolved very nicely, I read ideas here that I see nowhere else.  Shine on!

iamback, B.A.S., picolo

I agree with all of you re loss of liberty and that personal freedom (and small government) was the key to the rise of America.  Clearly we are in a decline.  Does it match the rest of the world's decline?

Great comments, keep 'em coming.

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Re arming up, YES, I agree that as many Americans (inc. women) as possible should have firearms, be proficient in their use and have deep stocks of ammunition.  Currently there is an attempt at an "Ammo Grab" here underway, namely a version of AR-15 ammo much used by recreational shooters (it's cheap ammo).

Disclosure: I practice what I preach: I own a Saiga "AK-47" (semi-auto) and a Beretta 9 mm.  I have ample stocks of ammo for both.

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iamback raised an issue some two weeks or so ago that has stuck with me...  Namely to improve (educate) oneself.  I am considering learning Python, a computer programming language.  Python appears to be relatively easy by programming standards and also appears to be friendly to math & statistics programs I am interested in (to learn more about our company's sales data).  This (of course) will not be easy...  But, I can take my time, and just learn what I need and/or want.

Python might be of some use to me to learn more about Bitcoin, perhaps even the newly hot topic of placing data on the blockchain (via OP_RETURN operations).  Most of the "guts" of Bitcoin and the blockchain are black boxes to me, I know next to nothing about how they work under the hood...*


* Sorry for all of the bad metaphors  Smiley
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February 28, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
That is not what Hollywood wants us to believe with their Western and Mafia flicks.

I live in a place with low government spending and police coverage. It is chaotic. Just today I was pointing out to the Homeowners Association that their rulebook is a farce because they have no effective enforcement mechanism (e.g. not supposed to park car along the road and must always pull into the driveway, but the violations are too numerous to count and their enforcement mechanism is to send repeated letters and put on a list  Huh  Roll Eyes). Their response was defiant. Filipinos never met a rule they couldn't bend (or use as a way to gain privilege and do corruption).

Maybe it is a cultural difference?

P.S. OTOH, I read that in some places in Germany men are not allowed to urinate in the standing position, because the sound of the trickle disturbs the neighbor.

(sometimes I feel my German blood, I really hate inefficient bullshit. Other times, I feel my native American and southern French blood where I also hate rules)

P.S.S. Anyone contemplating a move to Asia (Singapore, etc) should definitely visit first. And be very observant. Because cultures differ a lot.

My German blood boils as well on things. It's built into the heritage to be efficient and precise. Germany has become highly feminized in recent years (along with the US). Doesn't surprise me about the urinating debacle. What's sad is that this will be the norm for a generation or so until they realize how too much progressivism can be extremely detrimental.

It's a catch 22 regarding the rulebook of society. If you don't enforce it, people take advantage. If you enforce it, people try to shirk it. In ancient times, breaking the rules = banishment sometimes. This was enough to stop most people from breaking the rules. Today, not so much. A few slaps on the wrist or a large cash donation to Uncle Sam and it's like nothing happened. Today, breaking the rules (in the US) is something of an accomplishment met with Gov't handouts and minority entitlements.

Somedays, I wish people had more pride in doing things themselves like they used to. I knew people growing up that were scared to go on food stamps (even though they needed help bad) because of the shame it brought on their families. Instead, the father worked two jobs to dig the family out of poverty. He certainly didn't go out and buy a new cell phone and a tattoo with the savings.
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February 28, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
The USA went from nothing to the richest nation on earth with very low taxes and a small governement.

Jefferson had it right with Agrarianism. Too bad it didn't stick.
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February 28, 2015, 06:24:42 PM

Quote from: keprtv article
"Is there a culture of fear among officers now?" asked Gina Lazara.

"No, there is not. There is not a culture of fear," said Captain Cobb.

Great article post by the way.

There is no more violent crime today then there was in yesteryear. However; today there is a lot more police presence and pre-meditated violence on the part of police. The US has softened; becoming a weak shell of its former self. The militant/police state is coming (if not already here).

I'm not as doom and gloom as some, but men arm yourselves and begin to cultivate skills useful to your ancestors. The US is not going to change overnight, but self-reliance is going to take on a whole new meaning in years to come (and it doesn't mean grocery shopping alone).
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February 28, 2015, 10:36:08 AM
What's interesting is how the US operated in the 1800s roughly before the police were invented. According to many reports, there actually wasn't a lot of crime or anarchy.

That is not what Hollywood wants us to believe with their Western and Mafia flicks.

I live in a place with low government spending and police coverage. It is chaotic. Just today I was pointing out to the Homeowners Association that their rulebook is a farce because they have no effective enforcement mechanism (e.g. not supposed to park car along the road and must always pull into the driveway, but the violations are too numerous to count and their enforcement mechanism is to send repeated letters and put on a list  Huh  Roll Eyes). Their response was defiant. Filipinos never met a rule they couldn't bend (or use as a way to gain privilege and do corruption).

Maybe it is a cultural difference?

P.S. OTOH, I read that in some places in Germany men are not allowed to urinate in the standing position, because the sound of the trickle disturbs the neighbor.

(sometimes I feel my German blood, I really hate inefficient bullshit. Other times, I feel my native American and southern French blood where I also hate rules)

P.S.S. Anyone contemplating a move to Asia (Singapore, etc) should definitely visit first. And be very observant. Because cultures differ a lot.

The USA went from nothing to the richest nation on earth with very low taxes and a small governement.
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February 28, 2015, 01:28:46 AM
What's interesting is how the US operated in the 1800s roughly before the police were invented. According to many reports, there actually wasn't a lot of crime or anarchy.

That is not what Hollywood wants us to believe with their Western and Mafia flicks.

I live in a place with low government spending and police coverage. It is chaotic. Just today I was pointing out to the Homeowners Association that their rulebook is a farce because they have no effective enforcement mechanism (e.g. not supposed to park car along the road and must always pull into the driveway, but the violations are too numerous to count and their enforcement mechanism is to send repeated letters and put on a list  Huh  Roll Eyes). Their response was defiant. Filipinos never met a rule they couldn't bend (or use as a way to gain privilege and do corruption).

Maybe it is a cultural difference?

P.S. OTOH, I read that in some places in Germany men are not allowed to urinate in the standing position, because the sound of the trickle disturbs the neighbor.

(sometimes I feel my German blood, I really hate inefficient bullshit. Other times, I feel my native American and southern French blood where I also hate rules)

P.S.S. Anyone contemplating a move to Asia (Singapore, etc) should definitely visit first. And be very observant. Because cultures differ a lot.
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February 27, 2015, 06:44:06 PM
"Only give me control of a Nation's flow of credit, and I care not who makes its laws"

Taking Greece as an example, does the State and its decisions regarding taxation
have any relevance in the game?

Greece was not forced to be corrupted and to contract that many debts.

Hence you are saying the Greek State should have full responsibility
for actions decided elsewhere? Or are you saying that Greece should
not have ceded their power to create debt to the ECB? 
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February 27, 2015, 09:13:55 AM
If history show us anything...
...its that the participants in statism (aka society run by government) all game the system for maximum short-term individual gain and there is no global (in the time domain, i.e. long-term) optimization feedback mechanism. This what the Petri dish analogy was about in my essay linked from the OP.
States compete and thus evolve.  Ideologies compete and thus evolve.  


Statism attempts to create an artificial global feedback in the form of enforceable property rights, laws, and taxation. Thus statism is simply a form of collectivism on a grand scale and arises naturally from individuals seeking to protect themselves from the terror of unbounded anarchism (murder, theft, warlords, chaos, war).

Statism does not change human nature and human nature dictates that the participants in any collective order will always maximize their individual short-term gains. Without a global feedback mechanism the inevitable result is the progressive deterioration and eventual collapse of the collective back into anarchism.

I bolded a chunk of your quote. What's interesting is how the US operated in the 1800s roughly before the police were invented. According to many reports, there actually wasn't a lot of crime or anarchy. The masses policed themselves for crimes and shunned/took care of individuals that were not playing by the collective rules. Society takes care of itself on its own.

IMO, its not human nature to succeed individually when in an environment that is only ruled by mother nature. Evolution wouldn't let this happen, it wasn't wise to go it alone. You couldn't survive.

Now enter an invisible hand (the State) that controls most things... every individual is now polarized "against" their fellow man because they have to compete with them to get things from the State (who controls everything). This is where the the individualism comes from.

^anecdote: I just bought a vehicle the other day. A classic vehicle that is 35 years old. I traded an old vehicle for it. No money was exchanged. The State wants me to pay 6.5% sales tax on the "purchase" of a 35 year old vehicle that I paid nothing for. I refused saying I didn't need to pay tax on something I didn't pay for. Their reasoning: You must put something down on the line (sales tax line of the title form).
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February 26, 2015, 09:58:58 PM
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The USSA is strong-arming all other countries to basically adopt all their laws, or else

The countries that refuse risk being "corrected".

It is not only that. Every country that is bankrupt from socialism is willingly embracing the hunt for capital for taxes to fund the "99% against the 1%". The sheep don't yet realize the 1% includes them, because the socialism cancer kills the host.
legendary
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February 26, 2015, 09:25:55 PM
If history show us anything...
...its that the participants in statism (aka society run by government) all game the system for maximum short-term individual gain and there is no global (in the time domain, i.e. long-term) optimization feedback mechanism. This what the Petri dish analogy was about in my essay linked from the OP.
States compete and thus evolve.  Ideologies compete and thus evolve.  


Statism attempts to create an artificial global feedback in the form of enforceable property rights, laws, and taxation. Thus statism is simply a form of collectivism on a grand scale and arises naturally from individuals seeking to protect themselves from the terror of unbounded anarchism (murder, theft, warlords, chaos, war).

Statism does not change human nature and human nature dictates that the participants in any collective order will always maximize their individual short-term gains. Without a global feedback mechanism the inevitable result is the progressive deterioration and eventual collapse of the collective back into anarchism.

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February 26, 2015, 08:48:44 PM
Cross-posting from a recent thread I started about credit card -> Bitcoin ecommerce... make sure you view the scanned image of the SEC letter below!

smooth in your estimation is the addition of payment methods Dwolla (assuming I pass their KYC) and integration with Bitinsanity via the blockchain.info free service too small of a diminishing return relative to me needing to get on an airplane to return the land of "no fly lists" to renew my driver's license (and other residency status matters) so I can qualify for Paypal's KYC?

I don't know. Frankly Paypal's merchant integration isn't entirely wonderful either. There are extra steps of logging into paypal's site, selecting a payment method, being annoyed by paypal's advertisements, etc. On the positive side, Paypal does support subscriptions with automatic renewal, and pull methods for upsells. I don't know what added compliance burden those carry if any.

This is all about what is going to work for the customer base you have in mind. As you say, once you attract a lot of customers (or at least enough to attract investment) you can negotiate with the payments industry cartel bloodsuckers for something better.

Again in addition to your quoted point that Paypal may not being entirely immune to attrition of prospective customers (in addition to your point about attrition in their GUI, some of them such as myself refuse or are incapable of jumping through Paypal's KYC hoops) one of my points is that when you warn about becoming dependent on a provider and being shut down, I have that phobia about using Paypal. I also compound the "kafkaesque KYC theater" shut down risk with the risk of capital controls on merchants given my belief in Armstrong's 2015.75 Sovereign Debt BIG BANG model, and given that the KYC crap accelerated with the Patriot Act after the 9/11 terrorism ("you are either for us, or against us") 9/11 false flag[1] Twilight Zone.

So I am looking at benefits of multiple payment options not being only the incremental increase in sales due to lower the attribution rate over only a single payment processing option, not being only the social good will of accepting Bitcoin, but also building in the resiliency against everyday anti-fraud booby traps and moreover the SHTF shift in the Western world ETA just some months from now.

For me this all about a process of the world morphing away from the KYC abyss over time and towards a new world of freedom. It is absolutely necessary to avoid a Dark Age.

Or to put it more simply and less conspiratorially, multiple payment options insure against Murphy's Law.

Does that make any sense or am I am just a kook outside the mainstream?


I am surely not mainstream USA any more (shudder the Frankenstein it has become).

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/02/26/nsa-destroying-american-technology/

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The problem with consensus is that it is a "winner take all" paradigm, i.e. by definition there is no way for a minority opinion to be heard. Thus the minority can not act on its wisdom and must instead follow the ("Too Big To Fail") herd. So for example, if a minority sees that the consensus is being gamed some how, and wants to break away (vote with their feet) they can not. Rather they have to try to prove to the majority what is happening and get the majority motivated to act. Doesn't that sound a lot like what we do now trying to convince our relatives of the problems with malfeasance in central banking, politics, etc and instead they either ignore us or they adopt Marxist objectives which further the concentration of wealth, e.g. "blame it all on the 1%, while we demand a government that gives us everything for free because we are poor and redistribution is justified!".

Whereas when there are competing choices, this is truly decentralization because the minority can autonomously break away to a choice that performs better, and the minority becomes more profitable ("smaller things grow faster, saplings grow to trees but trees don't grow to the moon")...

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/02/23/turkey-turning-authoritarian-a-dangerous-global-trend/

Today, more Americans Believe World Trade Center 7 Was Demolished On 9/11 than believe the Government’s Explanation about it simply fell by itself in the attack without ever being hit by anything. It was that building WTC7 where they took the Artificial Intelligence computers they stole from Princeton Economics that self-destructed. While claiming the contempt was for assets, behind the scenes Tancred Schiavoni and Alan Cohen in writing demanded the source code to the computer models or everyone would be fired.



All the tapes that would have been enough to jail the heads of the NYC Money Center Banks for market manipulations that they are routinely fined for countless times, were also destroyed in building 7 according to the SEC. There is written proof that Cohen and Schiavoni demanded the source code to the model or they would fire everyone.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/01/04/911-admixture-the-fourth-branch-of-government/

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There is an admixture here. There were really terrorists involved. That does not negate the fact that WTC7 and the Pentagon were clearly targets that helped get rid of evidence and stop the investigation into $2 trillion in missing money. It is not an either or deal. What I am saying is I believe they KNEW in advance and used it to extend their power and clean up affairs just as they knew about Pearl Harbor and made up the attack at Tonkin Gulf and let us not forget the Weapons of Mass Destruction they couldn’t find.

All I can say is I do know what happened in MCC. That does not negate the government involvement any more than pretending they didn’t know about Pearl Harbor. The planes that were used could be also controlled from the ground. So I do not believe it was simply terrorist all on their own. I “believe” they used the terrorists as a decoy to achieve other goals. Can I prove that no! This is my OPINION.

What I can state is what happened in MCC. That is NOT speculation, theory, conjecture, or anything else. However, that does NOT say it was purely a terrorist act either. WTC7 fell by itself without anything hitting it and all government employees were evacuated prior to. It appears to be a professional demolition job. As for the “plane” that hit the pentagon (or missile) directly in the room where ALL the evidence was on the missing $2 trillion, is just too coincidental to be believable. I know people who were there and they say no plane debris. That was not the WTC where you could fly into that no problem. This was at ground level. Much more difficult to accomplish.

http://www.themartinarmstrongcase.com/?page_id=83

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In the longest running civil contempt in the history of federal jurisprudence in the Untied States, Armstrong was held at the Metropolitan Correctional Centre (“MCC”) in New York from January 2000 until April 2007. Judge Owen had determined that Armstrong failed to comply with the asset freeze and turnover order by failing to deliver alleged corporate assets, including a bust, antique coins and gold bars. Even though the contempt statute authorizes no more than an 18-month period of confinement, Judge Owen ruled that, as a federal district court judge, he had unlimited equitable powers to hold a civil contemnor for life, if need be.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/10/12/the-secret-cycle

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Prison was not kind to him. At one point, a fellow-inmate beat him in his cell. (Armstrong suspects that it may have been an assassination attempt.) In 2006, he was put into solitary confinement, for allegedly damaging a vent. Soon afterward, he decided, in an agreement with the prosecutors, to plea to just one count in the indictment, conspiracy to commit fraud. The twenty-three other charges were dismissed. He did so in part, he says, because he believed that he might get credit for time served. The criminal-court judge, however, gave him the maximum sentence—five years.

Armstrong was still stuck in the M.C.C., for civil contempt. A U.S. Court of Appeals rejected yet another appeal, although a concurring opinion, written by Sonia Sotomayor, noted that “the district court’s finding that Armstrong is motivated solely by greed is not enough to justify disregard for due process.” Judge Owen was eventually replaced and the contempt order abandoned. In April, 2007, Armstrong was moved to a low-security federal prison camp at Fort Dix, in southern New Jersey, to begin serving his sentence.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/09/22/14636/

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I think Armstrong is just speaking matter-of-factly when he says the direction will be the one-world digital reserve currency:

REPLY: I really think all of this conspiracy nonsense is absurd. YES there are groups that get together like G20 and Bilderberg meetings. I have even been the keynote speaker at such elite banking meetings. However, wanting to do something and actually being able to do it is another thing all together.

I have the fortune of knowing some very talented people...

We had “Uncle Ed” Rothschild implant his nephew into our company. I began getting calls from clients asking what was going on because he had gone through my roledex calling clients saying to buy a horrible Canadian mining company so Uncle Ed could sell his position. So if you think these people “know” and are in absolute control of everything, you are buying into bullshit.

They hated my guts and they put the words in the mouth of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission who never met a banker it did not kneel to. These people tried to manipulate markets – not the world. They were all jumping into Russia after they bailed out and sold Southeast Asia. They invited me to the IMF dinner Edmond Safra paid for to try to get me to join them. I told them Russia would fail. When it did, they argued it was me who manipulated the world economy because I had more influence than they did.

Let’s put this straight. If such groups were all powerful, then why do they go bust with each crash and run to government for bailouts? I do not disagree that there are groups who “try” to control things, but there is no way they can stop anything from happening.

I do not speak of these things off the cuff. I have had FIRST HAND up front experience. All the conversations I ever had about the markets and manipulations were on tapes. There was also a group of us who monitored what these people were up to next. All of that evidence that in a REAL government would have sent them to jail, magically vanished in the collapse of World Trade Center 7 – the building that magically fell by itself in less than 7 seconds and was not hit by anything. CONVENIENT?

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/09/05/are-markets-manipulated-all-the-time/

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Are Markets Manipulated All the Time?

QUESTION: Mr. Armstrong; Some people say you will not admit markets are manipulated all the time. Yet you stood up and had all the evidence that would have damned the whole lot of the New York bankers for manipulating markets. This is very confusing how you can be against them in public yet people claim you refuse to admit the markets are manipulated all the time between the central banks and the New York bankers. Can you shed any light on this paradox?

ANSWER: I am a student of markets. I do not make up bullshit. I am of the school of Adam Smith – assume nothing – prove everything. Claiming markets are manipulated all the time  is impossible. Marx tried that with communism and the free markets still won. This claim is merely a cop-out for admitting someone does not understand how markets function. Sure the banks manipulate markets individually. They cannot and do not do this systemically. Even in LIBOR they rig the game to make consistent profits but that does not mean they are capable of manipulating the entire trend. Even the central banks can control short-term rates within a trend but not long-term. This is why they then buy in long-term paper trying to INFLUENCE the long-term – they cannot dictate the price or trend. They have no direct power over markets. They can suppress the short-term like communism but the free markets will blow them out of the water when the Sovereign Debt Crisis hits. Why people put out this bullshit is amazing for if it was true then why buy gold at all for the system cannot ever collapse if it is all perfectly manipulated. This is just total gibberish from people who have ZERO experience inside the markets or behind the curtain. I had more than half the equivalent of the US National Debt under contract for advisory. I think I saw things no analysts has ever dreamed of no less understood. These people make up stuff to hide their inexperience – plain and simple. The banks told the government I manipulated the world economy BECAUSE they lost every time from Orange County, Solomon’s manipulation of US Treasury Auctions to the DOT.COM bubble and the 2007 Real Estate crisis. They ALWAYS blow up every time and run to government to get bailed out. How is this someone who manipulates the markets everyday? They should never fail if true.

You get mislead people swearing gold will rally to $10,000-$30,000 any day and when it falls out of bed they blame manipulation for being wrong. If the markets are manipulated ever day, then why trade against the trend using theories that purport the world will collapse any day? This is the real paradox to me. How can you say buy gold and when you are wrong you do not admit the mistake but blame manipulation? If it is manipulated then why tell people to buy something that can never rise?

We always tracked manipulations. I knew ABSOLUTELY every single one they did. We monitored the manipulations very carefully. The various manipulators hated my guts just like the goldbugs who will not listen. They tried to get me to join them figuring that when they lost it was because I had more followers than they did and therein started the allegation of manipulating the world economy that I had to defend against a subpoena from the CFTC demanding I turn over all names of clients worldwide so they could prove I was more powerful that the banks they protect. I defeated them in court. My lawyer at the time Chris Lovel stood up and told the judge even if I did manipulate the world, where was the law that said I could not no less how was it the domain of the CFTC?



I have written that written publicly that first PhiBro silver manipulation took place in 1993. The client was Warren Buffet. The CFTC went to PhiBro demanding to know who they were buying silver for. PhiBro refused to give up Buffet’s name. The CFTC would have thrown anyone else in jail and out of business. The CFTC is owned by the big players and is corrupt as hell right to the core. The CFTC simply said ok, no name, then exist the trade. No fines – jail – sanctions for that manipulations.



PhiBro and the “club” desperately tried to get me to join the second silver manipulation with Buffet. I have written about this stating publicly that PhiBro’s brokers walked across the COMEX pit and showed my floor brokers (Emerald Trading) Buffet’s orders and told me to join. They knew I would never trust these people for how would I know I was not the patsy to buy and they would use a another seller. I would never join them. Hence, PhiBro showed me the orders to convince me to join.

I then reported to our clients “they are back” knowing it was Buffet and PhiBro for a second time. They all got pissed-off at me even though I never mentioned names. The buying of silver was done in London. Therefore, they moved silver out of COMEX warehouses in USA and shipped the supply to London to pretend there was a shortage to justify the manipulation. The Wall Street Journal assisted in the rally.

The manipulators were steering the Buffet buying to London to avoid the 1993 problem with the CFTC. This is why AIG trading arm also set up in London. Buying silver in London justified moving it from the NY COMEX and this allowed them to get the manipulation going. COMEX supplies were reported in isolation. Moving the silver to London created the false image of a shortage to justify the higher prices. The Wall Street Journal was used to plant the story. On September 30th 1997 the stories appeared in headlines – “Silver Prices Hit Six-Month High On Steadily Declining Reserves, By  PALLAVI GOGOI AP-Dow Jones News Service Updated Sept. 30, 1997 12:01 a.m. ET NEW YORK — Silver futures surged to a six-month high at the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange, a move analysts said was triggered by steadily declining warehouse stocks. The rally was boosted by preplaced purchase orders around the $5-per-ounce level…” This was the news created for the manipulation that was constantly played out in the newspapers. The Wall Street Journal again reported on November 17, 1997, “Silver Futures Prices Leap On Hints of Tight Supplies”, and again on December 4, 1997 the Wall Street Journal from London reported “Silver Surges on Strength In Supply-Demand Status By NEIL BEHRMANN Special to The Wall Street Journal Updated Dec. 5, 1997 12:01 a.m. ET LONDON — Gold may be in the doghouse, but silver is soaring like a bird”. The reporting of shortages continued to fuel the rally. The Wall Street Journal reported again December 24, 1997 for the manipulators “Silver Futures Advance As Inventories Plunge”

The interesting point is the manipulators know that if they rally the metals, the retail goldbugs rush in and buy proclaiming its the bull market every time. The manipulators then routinely turn around and sell to goldbugs at the top and the markets crash. This has become standard procedure protected by the CFTC and the goldbugs buy the high every single time without fail.

The “cluib” was pissed-off that I would not join and I warned my clients they were back manipulating silver. A pretend analyst on the payroll I believe of PhiBro got a journalist from the Wall Street Journal to try to discredit me. The fake analyst told the WSJ I was short silver and trying to talk it down. The journalist accused me of this nonsense and we argued on the phone. It got quite heated and frankly I was not retail so could care less what they printed. My clients were the real deal who all knew the truth about journalism and how it was just a pawn of the “club”. In fact, my clients did not ever want me to give interviews about market forecasting to the press for their view was hey – we pay for that info.

Nevertheless, the WSJ journalist kept arrogantly taunting me and said if silver was being manipulated, then give him the name so I said fine, go ahead, let me see you print it, knowing he never would print Warren Buffet the saint of Wall Street – thanks to the press. The name I gave him was Warren Buffet. He laughed. Told me everyone knew Buffet did not trade commodities I told him that was how much he knew.

The Wall Street Journal published the article. The London newspapers were fed stories by the “Club” that I was now the largest silver trader in the world. This became all a joke to me. It demonstrated how bad the press really was. They were the pawns of the manipulators and probably didn’t even know it.

The mistake made by the “Club” by turning out the press against me, was they actually created such a worldwide story that silver was being manipulated the CFTC was forced to call me – it was public now and they had no choice. They knew I was not the source of the manipulation. Even the CFTC could look at positions and knew I was not the biggest player in silver. The CFTC then asked me, where was the manipulation taking place? I told them it was in London, out of their jurisdiction. The CFTC told me that they could pick up the phone and investigate London. I told them that they had to make that clear decision. I hung up. Never did I expect that they would really do anything. Yet, they never asked me who because the question was jurisdiction.

A few hours later, my phone rang. It was a good source in London who also was helping to monitor the “Club” actions. He told me that the Bank of England had called an immediate meeting of all silver brokers in London in the morning. I was shocked. The CFTC had made the call. But then again, I had given them no names so perhaps in their mind, this was fair game.

Within the hour, Warren Buffet made a press announcement. He admitted he had purchased $1 billion worth of silver, in London . He denied he was “manipulating” the market. Claimed the silver was a long – term investment. Everyone was shocked that Buffet was suddenly exposed as a commodity trader after all. The very next day the Wall Street Journal called me. The writer asked – “How did you know?” I told him it was my job to know! Silver thereafter declined and made new lows going into 1999. So much for Buffet’s long-term investment since he sold out.

When one trader from New York joined our firm, he called Goldman Sachs to ask about us. He has publicly stated on the record that their response was they had butted heads with me many times but I usually won.

Exposing the silver manipulation trying to turn the press against me was a huge mistake. The CFTC would have never called the Bank of England just because I reported the manipulation to our clients. That was private. Exposing the issue in the press forced them to respond. My brokers on the floor were Emerald Trading. I routinely traded AGAINST the manipulators and defeated them many times. Just as the goldbugs do not like me, neither do the manipulators and it far too often seemed to coincide when they were trying to goose the metals markets UP – not down. Contrary to the bullshit, they need people to BUY the metals to create a pool of longs to bury. They are NOT interested in forcing a metal down to compel people to sell for goldbugs are notoriously stubborn. That is not very profitable for they want the emotional traders who buy highs. Of course the goldbugs will say I am wrong but have never been in the same circles and some of them I question if they are not the people paid on the side by the manipulators.

There have been major manipulations of markets such as rhodium and then there was the manipulation of Platinum. I had recorded tapes and tons of documents on every manipulation. This was all seized by the court and I stood up instructing the court that these tapes Alan Cohen was demanding involved criminal activity on the part of the banks. I had it all for years. Alan Cohen then was made a board member of Goldman Sachs yet still remained as the court appointed person to run Princeton Economics. That is totally illegal and a conflict of interest. Law does not matter in New York City. (see Transcripts below).

To say I will not admit markets are manipulated is absurd. To claim they are always manipulated is impossible. Yet the real paradox is when the metals rally, they never seem to be manipulated – those are always “real” bull markets and the failures are the manipulations. Great propaganda! Amazingly, the metals are unique, They become manipulated only when they decline.

Not even the central banks can manipulate everything. Sure people try. But not everything. They target one market and go after that. The central banks have been trying to manage the economy to eliminate recessions. They have never succeeded even once. The central bankers know this is a confidence game just as the market manipulators. You NEED the public to move a trend. They cannot do it alone. If they were all-powerful, then Bretton Woods would never have collapsed.

There is a huge difference from a short-term manipulation within the trend, like the Buffet silver move, and a systemic every day manipulation that produces no big windfalls. Where is the PROOF of systemic manipulation? I have never seen any evidence of that – EVER. It is just nonsense.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/02/26/supreme-court-justice-wva-found-in-questionable-circumstances/

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Supreme Court Justice WVa Found in Questionable Circumstances

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ABC News exposed Supreme Court Justice of West Virginia Robin Davis who refused to recuse herself when the lawyer she handed $17 million in fees bought a PRIVATE JET from her husband for $1 million.

In my own case, the lawyers were talking how the receiver Alan Cohen was talking with Judge Richard Owen as was his subordinate Tancred Schiavoni on a regular basis off the record. I was in the Chrysler Building at the offices of Tenzer Greenblat when they were all talking about the case saying there was no way to win for this was being rigged as Judge Owen was communicating on the side with the government. When I told the lawyer to move for recusal, he responded his firm in New York City would NEVER move against any judge. From that moment on, I knew this was a hopeless cause to actually expect justice. The press in New York is also afraid to ever report the truth about judges so that leaves the country as a whole up to their throat burried in a pile of shit.

It became abundantly clear that lawyers from the same district were hopeless. Their business comes first before any client. So all the pretending of ethics is just that – one giant facade. Nothing is safe in America from your privacy to your liberty no less your property for judges are just not judges with very few exceptions today.

When I moved to go pro se with no choice when paid lawyers will not defend you before their own business, things really got out of hand. Getting rid of lawyers who would not defend me, I then moved for recusal of Judge Owen. He illegally closed the court and threw the press out – something which was totally unconstitutional since EVERY citizen is entitled to a OPEN COURT proceeding so that the people know justice is being done – another ethical fraud since they will close a court and change transcripts to remove whatever there is in your favor. Judge Owen ordered the court reporter to not record the events. Typically, every court transcript begins “in open court” except my transcript of April 24th, 2000.

Judge Owen had the Associated Press thrown out of court. The journalist reported that it was “In a closed hearing”. That was the only evidence I had to prove what he had done was entirely illegal for no lawyer would back me up against a judge. I appealed his refusal to recuse showing he even illegally altered the transcript to hide the fact he unconstitutionally threw out the press and closed the courtroom. You just can’t make up this stuff. The Second Circuit Court of appeals refused to even dock my appeal. This is the REAL America and we do not stand a prayer in hell of saving our country without profound change and reform. We have become the oppressed by a government that has transformed itself into the very same government we revolted against. The wheel of fortune has completed its revolution. We are now right back where it all began – corrupt judges who protect the kings agents, and writs of assistance to eliminate all rights to privacy. Nothing remains and this is what we are leaving our children.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/02/21/bernstein-of-watergate-on-cia-control-of-media/

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Bernstein of Watergate on CIA Control of Media

For the younger generation, in the 1970s, there was the Watergate scandal of the Republicans getting caught in the break-in of Democratic office located in the Watergate Office building. There was always some question about whether Nixon was truly set-up for he was distrustful of the CIA and had actually taken the same posture as JFK against Vietnam. Nixon promised to bring the troops home and it has been long suspected that the assassination of JFK was a coup by US CIA/Military to keep expanding worldwide. It was the Third Nixon-Kennedy Debate of 1960 that set off the first Gold Panic of 1960. However, you have to read between the lines. Kennedy clearly states the fiscal mismanagement problem that eventually undermined Bretton Woods. It was the American military wanting to expand worldwide. Kennedy said:

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“Now on the question of gold. The difficulty, of course, is that we do have heavy obligations abroad, that we therefore have to maintain not only a favorable balance of trade but also send a good deal of our dollars overseas to pay our troops, maintain our bases, and sustain other economies. In other words, if we’re going to continue to maintain our position in the sixties, we have to maintain a sound monetary and fiscal policy.”

Nixon saw the same problem and was forced to close the Gold Window in 1971. He wanted to curtail the military as well and bring the troops home. There is some question about Watergate because Nixon was so far ahead in the polls it really made no sense to break-in to the Democratic office. So was he removed from office for the same problem and the same motive?

Carl Bernstein of Woodward and Bernstein who were at the Washington Post broke the story. Why did the government not stop the Washington Post from exposing Watergate when they have the ability to stop the mainstream press in the USA at any moment? Perhaps they wanted the scandal to remove Nixon. This is what Bernstein wrote in 1977 himself about the CIA controlling the press. It is worth the read.

Read the following linked blog post, as it is very long and detailed:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/research/rule-of-law/goldman-sachs-v-armstrong/
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February 26, 2015, 07:15:57 PM
"Only give me control of a Nation's flow of credit, and I care not who makes its laws"

Taking Greece as an example, does the State and its decisions regarding taxation
have any relevance in the game?

Greece was not forced to be corrupted and to contract that many debts.
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February 26, 2015, 06:11:01 PM
"Only give me control of a Nation's flow of credit, and I care not who makes its laws"

Taking Greece as an example, does the State and its decisions regarding taxation
have any relevance in the game?
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February 26, 2015, 04:23:52 PM
...its that the participants in statism (aka society run by government) all game the system for maximum short-term individual gain and there is no global (in the time domain, i.e. long-term) optimization feedback mechanism. This what the Petri dish analogy was about in my essay linked from the OP.

Humans are not like ants, in that they have a large enough brain that they can function without the hive and thus human prioritize their self-interest.

States compete and thus evolve.  Ideologies compete and thus evolve.   The interaction between the two tends to be when local optima are escaped, points of punctuation, as co-adaptation requires variations on different axes. But resource exhaustion can destabilize even more certainly.

States are like a hive managed by a committee of bee-keepers.  When the honey stops flowing, the incentive to manage the hive benevolently is gone.
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February 26, 2015, 09:15:36 AM
If history show us anything...

...its that the participants in statism (aka society run by government) all game the system for maximum short-term individual gain and there is no global (in the time domain, i.e. long-term) optimization feedback mechanism. This what the Petri dish analogy was about in my essay linked from the OP.

Humans are not like ants, in that they have a large enough brain that they can function without the hive and thus human prioritize their self-interest.

This is very true, but IMO only because the benefits of prioritizing self interest outweigh the converse. In many ways, the incentive to stake against this is so low that becoming a martyr for the cause is a waste of your life. Hence we have a large pop. of people that are gaming the system for their benefit. It's too late to reverse anything; it must play out now and restructure in the future.

The problem with Statism is the circularness of it. You don't end up getting anywhere long-term as you point out. What's interesting is that China has something like Statism going with regards to State ownership of public companies, however; they are quite long-term minded because of the guarantees the CPC affords in longevity.
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