Topic: Economic Totalitarianism - page 54. (Read 345758 times)

You raise a very important point that I hope I can make very clear.


Most revolutions and mass movements have been funded and/or infiltrated by the banksters. Start with Antony Sutton's research which is on Youtube. Perhaps there are exceptions where the people really did express their individual sovereignty without the need for a leadership which could be infiltrated by the elite. Pilgrims?

The banksters are saying, "you dumb shit cows are getting what you deserve because you can't organize yourself  individually and you need us to organize the united nations because tribalism failed".

They are speaking what they genuinely believe to be the truth. But they have been deluded (some claim by Satan). They do believe they are responsible for managing the Industrial Age, and they are correct!

They are warning the masses of their fate should the current system continue unabated, which they entirely expect to be the case, because they know that humans can't act individually.

But I believe they are also wrong assuming the Industrial Age paradigms will carry forward into the Knowledge Age. Humans only need technology to do so (e.g. self-publishing on the internet as we are doing now). And why do you think I want to work on crypto technology.

(Whether in the case of the Denver airport that is just a coincidental outcome or an overt one is indeterminate with the limited information available to us in the public domain)

I believe the global elite see the corruption in governance as a necessary cost to pay for their control and the resultant management of the tribal cows who would be constantly at war otherwise in their view.

Often I think all my words are really silly, because the elite (as I assume they intend) are correct in a way. I foment the theory that only technological innovation might render them irrelevant and incorrect. And you know I would much rather be working than talking (if I shall be granted that wish).


AnonyMint already covered the overwhelming physical evidence. I tire of repeating myself.

Start here and dig:

ae911truth.org

(some of my research on 9/11 comes from beyond that one source, such as Armstrong's official letter from the SEC confirming that all the tapes he had of the banksters manipulations of the markets which had been confiscated by the receivership on his court case where admitted to be destroyed on 9/11 at the Twin Towers. Also specifically find the explanation that the NIST model on the collapse of building 7 is implausible.)

If there is some vast conspiracy to eliminate the masses etc, it does not sound logical that it would be telegraphed at all. Loose lips etc sink ships. Why risk a revolution before your plan can be hatched just so you can show your power? That's similar to Bond villains who have the gun at the head of Bond and then decide to give him 5 minutes until he dies or something similar. Seems too risky to me. Although, granted, the IMF regularly puts out reports that mention that the economic system may again be ready to implode etc, it's just no one except the top financial brass probably read them.

re: 9/11, while much of the thing is very co-incidental and strange, I'd say the big smoking gun will be that it was largely funded by Saudi Arabia.

If you would have read any of my previous posts regarding this you would know I have sympathy for genuine refugees. Around 75% are in fact economic migrants, this is the main point I take issue with. Just google world IQs. I believe the Syrian in particular is a whole standard deviation lower that Westernized europe.
Yes I am using generalizations because I am not interested in individuals when millions are arriving. If I have time I will be happy to point to reliable sources regarding literacy and IQ.

And Taguma's beliefs meshed with the payer and thus he was allowed to paint for 3 years instead of the initial 1 mural which was commissioned. Whether this was coincidental or overt is indeterminate.


He is really smart advocating peace via nations whose primary raison d'être is war. Humans are so easily deluded on this truth and the lie of democracy though.


I didn't need to disagree with his statements in any of the theory I presented. You are constructing strawmen.


Carroll Quigley apparently made this argument in Tragedy and Hope (I didn't read the entire book) that the elite should be more open about their plans since these were thought to be the natural outcome of civilization and the organization of man.

I think it doesn't take much intellect to understand why the elite operate with some obscurity. Your point is why even reveal or boast anything if not to go all out and reveal that they control all the central banks, own all the government leaders, etc. (not asserting you think they have that alleged power)

So what is your point? They want to boast, warn (as part of their doctrine that the dumb cows chose their destiny), prove they can make a cathedral in public view with their power, yet they don't want to risk complete disclosure. Seems quite rational to me.

Then you have someone like Armstrong who argues they control NYC but not Russia nor China  


Well, well is it no surprise that we have no such smoking guns for 9/11. Yet taken all the evidence holistically, you'd have to be complete nincompoop to say 9/11 was carried out by 9 guys who rode camels to the airport and hijacked planes with box cutters. Of course the details are more serious, but I am just exaggerating to illustrate the incredible resistance to learn the truth.



You really don't read my posts carefully. I was not arguing he was manipulated. I never needed that for my theory to hold.

As for the bankers involvement in Denver, it might just be a coincidence. But we do know the Freemason were involved. And I think it is alleged that highest ranks in the Freemasons are aligned with the global elite.

Whereas with the Georgia Guidestones (which was part of my original post on this topic) were clearly not done by some unfunded artist. The person who commissioned them is well described to be a white haired man in an expensive suit who sent money from numerous banks around the country. And only two men ever met him in that context and one of those men is dead. The other has sworn to bankers secrecy.

Right, so accepting refugees is anti - human, rests upon a corrupted moral code and is illogical.  And your description "radicalized, traumatized, low IQ" - can you see any assumptions there?

Maybe tell us who are the radicalised ones? People fleeing Assad (Russian backed)? Rebels (US backed)? ISIS (up for debate)? Or maybe the Yatzidis? Or Christians? Obviously you can't, so cut the bullshit. My guess is you're imagining only the ISIS threat, not being logical and thinking that if they want to attack EU they'd probably just recruit within that country. It seems like you are the one heavily inculcated by the propaganda you consume via the media that gives you an extremely narrow view of the situation.

I can accept the point of view that immigration is a a welfare / spending problem, (with the current state of Eu economies) and even an integration / cultural problem, but not these broad, racist generalizations. You'd be better off not shrouding your writing in euphemisms and just say you don't want these Arab terrorist f*ckers to leave the shitty countries they are being bombed (by us) in. You know, get to the point.

But what about the Syrian Electronic Army? Are they low IQ? Hacking TV5Monde the imbeciles! or maybe the activists harnessing social media, risking their lives to upload footage of the violence (ie RSS in Raqqa). Or is it just everyone who is fleeing a long running, brutal proxy war? Show us the study that says Syrian people have below average IQ's.

I just want you to say that you have no real proof that the artists had your theory in mind when they created the work. Is that debatable at this point?

And if you can put forth hard evidence of the bankers using a manipulation strategy on the artist, I'll give you credit for that point.

Why are you in an ego battle with me? Did I make you feel insecureinsulted. (that is not a question)

Why do you assume I will not respond to your other questions later?

Dude, i don't read all your posts. I only read the interesting ones or the ones directed at me. Sorry, I just don't follow people. But why do you only chose the question that is easiest for you to grandstand on?  

Also, i'm asking for evidence in regard to the artists--the only thing that's on the table at the moment.

Why do you read only what you want to read and then accuse me of stances which I specifically refuted in what I wrote? You see your emotional leaning.


Did you forget that I wrote yesterday that I don't want to throw away information and throw out the baby with the bath water.

How do you manage to ignore all the correlating data that has been presented ad nauseum. Who funded the 1992 Earth Summit? Who started the failed League of Nations? Who donated the land for the United Nations building in NYC?

Yes there is plenty of documentation of Rockefeller's foundations funding feminism, environmentalism, human climate change, etc.. How much data do you want to be drowned with? Go read AnonyMint's archives. That will keep you busy for some months.

Because artist never will their own beliefs into a work without the payer knowing.  

What i'm saying is that artist are usually smarter than the people who buy their work and are usually smarter than the people misinterpreting it. You could be right that the bankers (would be nice if you provided evidence and not supposition) wanted Taguma to do his thing unabated, but that doesn't change that his interpretation is most likely the best one--even if it is thrown into a hodgepodge of banker strategy.

But three questions come to mind:

If the bankers were so arrogant to show their evil plans to the world, why didn't they do so more explicitly? I mean did they just go, "we wanna expose are plan, but not too much, so lets hope these artist reveal just enough, but not too much, and totally without any knowledge of our aims that we want to post to the world...."

And do you have any hard evidence? You've got supposition and interpretations, but no hard facts: letters, witnesses, phone calls.

Why is it so hard for you to believe that there is no conspiracy at the Denver Airport? That it's just your imagination taking the conspiracy you already had and latching it  to a bunch of weird (and already over interpreted)  art?  

Well actually very peculiar as in pertinent (definition #2).

pe·cu·liar
adjective
1. strange or odd; unusual.
2. belonging exclusively to.

I suppose I would have noticed that too once I had gotten around to looking at the image (especially in a higher resolution) again. Been too busy just responding to the posts here in this thread.

Again this is just more globalist delusion that peace comes from nations, when in fact significant war comes from nations. And the imagery espouses that peace can only come by all nations together synchronously, which is another United Nations Rockefeller delusion that is being rammed down our throat. The exact opposite is the result of granting more power to collective. It is when individuals can economically move forward with their own individual degrees-of-freedom, that war becomes implausible.

Not peculiar at all. Each bundle of swords being carried by the children is wrapped in the flags of two former enemies and I guess this represents a triumph of peace and reconciliation. It's a bit historically questionable since I don't really think the US and Russia have been actual enemies in the post-Soviet era, but I can see where the artist was going with it.

Most people don't need to be explicitly controlled, they are heavily inculcated into collectivism from the moment they enter the 'education' system. Most people I meet don't realize that many things they advocate are ultimately anti-human and rest upon a corrupted moral core. The most vociferous and virulent activists, feminists and SJW are perfect examples of this.

The immigration 'crisis' in Europe is one of them: Import radicalized, traumatized, low IQ population for a number of illogical reasons. Nevermind the poor in their own countries or the children that will have their education impacted/ruined by scarce resources, integration problems or worse. When this government program creates more problems, create another government program, ad infinitum.
The 'green' agenda is a fascinating mindfuck in Orwellian propaganda too.

Why do you focus on a personal ego battle rather than a search for the facts and likely truth?

Make your point.

It is quite well SOBO (statement of the blatantly obvious) that well-paid artists, media athletes, the media, and the globalists are implicitly in bed together. Surely you can see the economic incentive for them to be.

How many examples do want me to drown you with?

In the above case, I was not asserting that Taguma was coerced in any way. I said he could have been chosen for his penchant for painting globalist delusions and/or once he painted one nice globalist delusion he was allowed to paint more for 3 years when by his own words he only was commissioned to paint one mural at the start.

Edit: what is dumb is not recognizing the difference between direct control and implicit mutual economic incentives.

I don't know, but perhaps the thought was that if nuclear war did happen, it would be in part the result of development to an unsustainably advanced state (consider the self-destruction answer to the Fermi Paradox). Perhaps advice to limit humanity to a smaller, simpler, and less resource-intensive level would be helpful to avoid a recurrence. (Interestingly if this did happen it would also resolve the Fermi Paradox.)


I'm pretty sure any post-nuclear war interpretation of this comment would have nothing to do with Planned Parenthood. Certainly one could imagine that a small group of survivors would benefit from improving fitness and diversity. Honestly, to me it makes more sense interpreted that way than trying to make this fit Planned Parenthood or any present-day reproductive issue I can think of.

As I said I have no idea whether the intent of the stones actually had anything to do with nuclear war, but the theory seems credible to me. That also doesn't necessarily mean you have to agree with every bit of advice expressed on them either.

Having experienced excruciating pain in the gut (which has holistic caustic effects throughout the body) I can't fathom how anyone could endure such pain (or worse!) for eternity unending. And I am a person who can handle quite a bit of selective (not unending or chronic) pain having run long distances in pain and also played an entire afternoon of a football game (without helmet) with a severely broken nose, etc.. I grow so weary (just from the non-acute chronic arduous shit) sometimes I want to pull the plug on my life sometimes, not to mention the past 2 days of acute pain nearly revisiting that acute peptic horrific pain in 2012. Perhaps some other men are more resistant to pain than I am.

In any case, I don't think they've chosen that pain because I doubt they have ever experienced this physical pain. I don't see the warning of the Bible as really cogent, because who could respect the warning if they haven't experienced the pain. It is like all of you the readers couldn't possibly have any idea what I've been feeling if you have never (or not recently because we tend to forget pain) experience very acute and chronic pain.

Also I think these phenomenon (and people) are natural by-products (constituents) of the way civilization is organized. If you want to change this, you must change the power vacuum that demands these constituents exist. No dogma in a written document will change it.

My first thought yesterday on reading your post is how you are perhaps more focused than I am on spreading the christian message (or at least the truth by any label) and thus this enabled you to make this insight about metadata. I think perhaps I had a similar thought in the past when I was more focused on getting a message out. Lately I've become more attuned to Armstrong's idea that we observe and interpret, but we don't change the outcome thus I've become less focused on trying to change the world via spread of message at least through any political means thus I wouldn't take the time to analyze how politics is obscuring information flow from that motivation.

However, I still believe in the Butterfly effect. And I believe innovations are serendipitous and can have radical impacts on everything including the information that humans have access to and are able to digest. I do think however that what impacts more than an overload of information (and inevitably laden with top-down dogma) are simple paradigm shifts that open great economic opportunity. All my plans for crypto-currency centered around this insight. Efficiency is a very key attribute that has to be considered in the context of the perpetual increase in entropy called for by the fundamental Second Law of Thermodynamics. Information is only efficient when part of an economic action that increases entropy (at least on the dimension of the perspective being considered).

Ask Rockefeller Center about trying to leash a Latin artist (a very impractical choice for bankers working on NWOs).

Do you have any evidence of the manipulation of the artists? Papers? Eye witness accounts? Or just the assertion that artists are controllable (pretty dumb if you ask me) and the Man has outwit the artist again?

I smile because I know something you don't  

I hadn't thought of that and I assume we credit generalizethis for prompting the thought process of considering the era in which these structures were created.

I also remember becoming very depressed for a period of weeks or months after watching a movie on TV about the devastation of a nuclear winter. Afair that was in the late 70s. I know many Americans were similarly affected by the FEAR propaganda that I assert was foisted on us by the elite. It is well known biological fact that FEAR shuts down the pre-frontal cortex.

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html#Existential_Fear


I do remember that Rockefeller funded some UN convention in Brazil in the late 70s or early 80s and I can't remember the title but it was instrumental and starting a domino effect on some of these social issues (was it Human Rights, Climate, I can't remember). Edit: maybe it was the Earth Summit in 1992. I thought there was an earlier one, but perhaps I am mistaken.

So it is with an open mind that I consider this hypothesis and I do not see how you can come to that conclusion by any stretch of logic.


How does reducing human population reduce the propensity for nuclear war or reoccurence of it?

I can't remember during that era any one advocating population reduction in the popular media as a solution to nuclear proliferation. Do you?


What does State managed Planned Parenthood have to do with fear of nuclear holocaust? Rather this is clearly the Rockefeller foundations' signature (and thus one of his legions such as the globalist member Ted Turner's work).

The only inscriptions that could possibly be relevant to your (Wikipedia's) theorypropaganda are only those below and only if taken out of context from the others:


But these are only relevant if viewing the nuclear threat as a justification for a world government that can prevent such conflicts.

Thus again it is Rockefeller's signature of foisting a propaganda on us (through his cooperative mass media) about nuclear winter to scare us into relinquishing our God-given (for atheists I mean innate, natural) sovereignty.

We can't give up our individual sovereignty which is required by the free market. Well the only way we can is to be dead (which is where the socialists are headed with another megadeath culling). I explained the (not formalized) math in an overview of the uniform distribution yesterday.

I have a better understanding now having contemplated some research on who was in charge of the art and capstone at the airport.

An artist (among 39 artists chosen to produce artwork at the airport) was chosen likely for his desire to paint themes which are consistent with these globalist delusions about man perfecting the past travails of man. If we can only eliminate tribal traditions and integrate multiculturalism and if these Harvard educated technocrats can engineer it then we can fix the world and finally have our hippie nirvana.


I read (last night) in Tanguma own words that at first he was only supposed to paint one mural, but then he kept painting more for 3 years. So one can safely assume the man in charge Charles Ansbacher liked what he saw and allowed him to continue. (If I am not mistaken, he said he was to paid $100,000 for one mural, which seemed ridiculously high, or maybe it was $10,000...I was very sleepy when reading last night)

Also there is some contention about Tanguma's claims that he painted only what he wanted to. Some have claimed that in 1995, he said he painted the themes he was told to paint, but in his own words he later denies this. Note I believe I read the man only has a 6th grade formal education (ain't that dandy we have a man with an elementary school education and some multiculturalism chip on his shoulder due to his ill treatment in Texas as a child, painting the murals that will be seen by up to 110 million passengers per year).

And that man in charge coordinated with local business leaders including apparently the Denver region Freemasons who he said provided the time capsule and capstone.

The project was accused of being a massive political corruption, spectacularly overbudget at $5.2 billion, and so many contractors were hired and fired along the way.

So as usual the upper echelons of the Freemasons, the political class, and the artist class (Hollywood et al) all got paid off handsomely and Rockefeller et al got their desired symbolism IN YOUR FACE CATTLE GENTILES.

It could just be coincidental that you have this artist globalist type guy in charge and they just happen to select a guy who likes to paint globalist delusions, and it could be coincidental that he was originally scheduled to paint only 1 mural but ended up painting for 3 years. And the entire globalist crap that is going on right now in the world could all be coincidental. That surely is Armstrong's theory. It might just be an outcome of humanism and the natural devolution of civilizations.

No matter how you interpret it, government has grown too big and evil when anything with such themes of multiculturalism, war, and United Nations idealism is incorporated into what is essentially a public works utility. It is indicative of the Industrial Age that is holding us back (funneling us through high fixed capital cost infrastructure rather the individual enabling technologies which has been my persistent theme in the Economic Devastation thread). Flying cars (which I blogged about 3 years ago) can render these globalist delusions irrelevant (w.r.t to funneling people through airports).

I recognized at a very early age that technology was independence. And that was my best chance for breaking free.

Edit: I chuckled at the irony when Tanguma lamented that how there were so many different criticisms of his art as he was painting them. Dude multiculturalism idealism doesn't generally work! Your delusions were revealed to you.

I wasn't able to complete my research and thoughts on this topic before falling asleep. So I was laying in bed when I woke up thinking more about this.

Of course, Swanee Hunt is correct that men often have the view to cordon off their space and protect their own, and women often have an integrating philosophy. And of course it is also correct (which Armstrong has explained in his blogs) that assimilating immigrants with the English language and the addictive American culture (and addictive also because there was so much freedom and economic opportunity if you worked hard and a wide open West to populate) is the reason the USA had less trouble with multiculturalism than Europe has had.

But it isn't as simple as she wishes that anyone could top-down engineer these outcomes. What stands out for me in my analysis of her, is that she reminds me of the baby boomer women in the USA who want to meddle in everyone else's affairs. They think they can fix everyone else. It is once again meddling with nature and the humanist concept that man is in control and is superior to nature.

Rather I have taken to Armstrong like a magnet, because rather than trying to engineer outcomes, he has tried to scientifically categorize the innate cycles and patterns of nature as they are and not as we wish they would be.

Perhaps the experience of multicultural conflict in Yugoslavia probably forebodes some of the future of Europe ahead. I'll have more to comment about that in the Martin Armstrong thread shortly.

Specifically how this relates to the Denver airport, we had a globalist artist type Charles Ansbacher in charge of the weird attributes at the Denver airport, who was married to another delusional globalist idealist, the daughter of a billionaire oilman in Swanee Hunt.

The boomers have thought of themselves as the leaders of the modern world (brought us out of WW2 and horse+carriage age into the modern age) and have been the most selfish generation in our lifetimes. For example I am confident my mother equates (conflates) the independence of the washing machine with feminism at some subconscious level.

In short, what I see in the Denver airport is this bourgeois, white, boomer, artist, hippie culture manifesting as "we can fix the world" overlaid with the influences of the Rockefeller foundation and its funding of the focus groups which promulgated feminism, environmentalism, anthropocentric climate change, peak oil, and all other Malthusian, humanistic doom and control.

All of which my boomer mother subscribes to. So you can imagine our relationship has been strained at times unless I hold my tongue. My father I don't know. But surely some of that is in him too. As a good attorney, he is more quiet about his true philosophy. I can only judge mostly by his actions.

My goal as an X gen is to break free from this.

So in hindsight could I as a man have prevented myself from going to the Philippines, thus preventing myself from losing an eye and otensibly acquiring some bizarre infection which has wrecked havoc on my life and production the past several years. My thought is we are not in control of this as much as we think we are. My destiny was probably decided by the circumstances and what I had to overcome (break free of) and learn in this life.

I am very wary of people who claim they can mastermind engineer the world. I am very attuned to those who have claimed to sample the world and used a pattern matching engine to find repeating cycles.