End of newbie restrictions; ban changes - page 6.

tysat

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Activity: 966

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Keep it real

Quote from: justusranvier on February 08, 2014, 07:50:20 PM

Quote from: tysat on February 08, 2014, 05:10:28 PM

Your "score" going down is a terrible reason to not report, it's not like anyone else can see it.

It's extremely demotivating. If you aren't going to show reporters which of their reports were marked as invalid, then it would be better not to show that number at all.

I'm not saying it's a perfect system... but that you shouldn't worry about your "score"

justusranvier

legendary

Activity: 1400

Merit: 1013

Quote from: tysat on February 08, 2014, 05:10:28 PM

Your "score" going down is a terrible reason to not report, it's not like anyone else can see it.

It's extremely demotivating. If you aren't going to show reporters which of their reports were marked as invalid, then it would be better not to show that number at all.

BawsyBoss

sr. member

Activity: 389

Merit: 250

Quote from: tysat on February 08, 2014, 05:10:28 PM

Quote from: justusranvier on February 08, 2014, 04:37:38 PM

Quote from: Trongersoll on February 08, 2014, 03:38:09 PM

Quote from: N12 on February 08, 2014, 02:54:28 PM

If it gets too extreme, I'll just begin deleting the more unoriginal/generic/short threads by default. Until now, I only really deleted absolutely useless threads which are certainly spam and serve no purpose.

In general though, if something particular annoys you, just report it.

So far, my report rate has been 100%, but i worry about it dropping. I'm afraid that i'll become too persnickity.

I stopped reporting because my percentage would drop inexplicably, with no indication of what the problem was. There's no reason to show somebody a metric and not give them feedback about why it's changing - that's just an exercise in frustration.

Your "score" going down is a terrible reason to not report, it's not like anyone else can see it.

Why should it matter? Moderators look at reports anyway, don't they? Also, I hope that with this change, moderation of spam posts becomes better. I have seen many 2-3 word posts around the forums and am unsure of whether I should report them or not. They are usually responses to people who have gone off on tangents.

tysat

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Activity: 966

Merit: 1004

Keep it real

Quote from: justusranvier on February 08, 2014, 04:37:38 PM

Quote from: Trongersoll on February 08, 2014, 03:38:09 PM

Quote from: N12 on February 08, 2014, 02:54:28 PM

If it gets too extreme, I'll just begin deleting the more unoriginal/generic/short threads by default. Until now, I only really deleted absolutely useless threads which are certainly spam and serve no purpose.

In general though, if something particular annoys you, just report it.

So far, my report rate has been 100%, but i worry about it dropping. I'm afraid that i'll become too persnickity.

I stopped reporting because my percentage would drop inexplicably, with no indication of what the problem was. There's no reason to show somebody a metric and not give them feedback about why it's changing - that's just an exercise in frustration.

Your "score" going down is a terrible reason to not report, it's not like anyone else can see it.

justusranvier

legendary

Activity: 1400

Merit: 1013

Quote from: Trongersoll on February 08, 2014, 03:38:09 PM

Quote from: N12 on February 08, 2014, 02:54:28 PM

If it gets too extreme, I'll just begin deleting the more unoriginal/generic/short threads by default. Until now, I only really deleted absolutely useless threads which are certainly spam and serve no purpose.

In general though, if something particular annoys you, just report it.

So far, my report rate has been 100%, but i worry about it dropping. I'm afraid that i'll become too persnickity.

I stopped reporting because my percentage would drop inexplicably, with no indication of what the problem was. There's no reason to show somebody a metric and not give them feedback about why it's changing - that's just an exercise in frustration.

Trongersoll

hero member

Activity: 490

Merit: 501

Quote from: N12 on February 08, 2014, 02:54:28 PM

If it gets too extreme, I'll just begin deleting the more unoriginal/generic/short threads by default. Until now, I only really deleted absolutely useless threads which are certainly spam and serve no purpose.

In general though, if something particular annoys you, just report it.

So far, my report rate has been 100%, but i worry about it dropping. I'm afraid that i'll become too persnickity.

N12

donator

Activity: 1610

Merit: 1010

If it gets too extreme, I'll just begin deleting the more unoriginal/generic/short threads by default. Until now, I only really deleted absolutely useless threads which are certainly spam and serve no purpose.

In general though, if something particular annoys you, just report it.

oda.krell

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1007

Theymos, I'm sorry to say the lifting of the 'newbie' restrictions has made the board noticeably worse. To the point where I am seriously considering to stop using "my" subforum (speculation).

The number of new accounts aggressively opening useless threads is through the roof. I never had to put so many people on ignore as in the last week. And all of that, despite the subforum being run by a very competent mod (Blitz).

All in all, it really backfired, and I sincerely ask you to consider adjusting your decision.

How about the following: Allow sub-forum mods to set a certain 'activity' value that a user has to have reached before he can post in this forum, and keep at least one forum unrestricted ('beginners' comes to mind), so the newbies can earn their activity points there.

I'm not proposing anything elitist here, so maybe you could rule out too high activity numbers being set for a sub-forum, but some "credence check" really seems necessary to keep signal/noise in acceptable levels.

Trongersoll

hero member

Activity: 490

Merit: 501

On the other hand, we all get to increase our number of posts as a result of the change. I'd still prefer things the way they were.

Jacko

full member

Activity: 182

Merit: 100

Quote from: abacus on February 05, 2014, 06:01:26 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 05, 2014, 05:57:25 AM

Quote from: tysat on February 04, 2014, 08:39:33 PM

Quote from: gweedo on February 04, 2014, 05:44:17 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 04, 2014, 05:33:36 PM

Please revert this change, the whole forum is getting spammed to fucking oblivion now.

Lets chalk it up to experiement over and go back to the way that we know works.

I concur

It hasn't been as bad as I expected, but I think the newbie jail was still a better option and would vote for it to be reinstated.

For what it's worth, I would vote for it too.

I was a Newbie and went through the Newbie Jail. I didn't have a problem with it what so ever and think it should be reinstated. It helps to stop posts where people aren't made to search and get into the habit of searching by the Newbie jail. People now just post without thinking. Put it back to how it was and get them searching rather than just asking.

gweedo

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Activity: 1498

Merit: 1000

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 04, 2014, 05:33:36 PM

Please revert this change, the whole forum is getting spammed to fucking oblivion now.

Lets chalk it up to experiement over and go back to the way that we know works.

abacus

hero member

Activity: 618

Merit: 500

a clockwork miner

Quote from: hilariousandco on February 05, 2014, 05:57:25 AM

Quote from: tysat on February 04, 2014, 08:39:33 PM

Quote from: gweedo on February 04, 2014, 05:44:17 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 04, 2014, 05:33:36 PM

Please revert this change, the whole forum is getting spammed to fucking oblivion now.

Lets chalk it up to experiement over and go back to the way that we know works.

I concur

It hasn't been as bad as I expected, but I think the newbie jail was still a better option and would vote for it to be reinstated.

For what it's worth, I would vote for it too.

hilariousandco

global moderator

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Merit: 2717

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Quote from: tysat on February 04, 2014, 08:39:33 PM

Quote from: gweedo on February 04, 2014, 05:44:17 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 04, 2014, 05:33:36 PM

Please revert this change, the whole forum is getting spammed to fucking oblivion now.

Lets chalk it up to experiement over and go back to the way that we know works.

I concur

It hasn't been as bad as I expected, but I think the newbie jail was still a better option and would vote for it to be reinstated.

bitpop

legendary

Activity: 2912

Merit: 1060

They way I can spot newbie posts is when the title is all lower case.

freedomno1

legendary

Activity: 1806

Merit: 1090

Learning the troll avoidance button :)

I must admit my flagging and reporting ratio is going up but not for the best of reasons mumble

tysat

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Activity: 966

Merit: 1004

Keep it real

Quote from: gweedo on February 04, 2014, 05:44:17 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on February 04, 2014, 05:33:36 PM

Please revert this change, the whole forum is getting spammed to fucking oblivion now.

Lets chalk it up to experiement over and go back to the way that we know works.

I concur

Trongersoll

hero member

Activity: 490

Merit: 501

What they said. Cool

TheButterZone

legendary

Activity: 3038

Merit: 1032

RIP Mommy

Please revert this change, the whole forum is getting spammed to fucking oblivion now.

Onews1990

full member

Activity: 362

Merit: 100

Newbies are now very similar to junior and I had to follow these annoying restrictions before. Now it's a spam fest Undecided

too bad for moderators.

Sonny

hero member

Activity: 868

Merit: 1000

Quote from: coinerbit on January 28, 2014, 12:10:41 PM

2 days of total time logged in. See my total posts on the left en still a newbie?

How come?

"Total time loggin in" was never a factor for the membergroup lol.

You need 30 activity to get to jr member, the way activity is calculated:

Quote from: theymos on June 18, 2013, 03:44:42 PM

The activity number is determined in this way:
time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

Activity is updated every 30 minutes.

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