Topic: End of newbie restrictions; ban changes - page 5. (Read 39996 times)

Can't say if I like new rules or don't as I am newbie here and actually it doesn't matter, the rules have been changed. Let's live move on and we'll see how it is going to work. Btw like the idea of breaking users up into a group and it's cool you can see his status (Newbie, Jr Member etc)

Thanks for the staff feedback. Glad it's not only a bunch of users feeling that way.

I support it and I think a few others do too, but it's up to theymos.

+1 also, saw the thread title and came here to find out why the Speculation, Economics etc. are all clogged with bullshit and useless to read now...now I know why. So many idiots...you can't weed out any useful news/info at all. 

I may still pop by to try to find some specific historical info but other than that I can't see any reason to be here any longer.   

In any case, the big players and intelligent people have moved on to the new forum anyway.

It really wasn't that bad unless you're really impatient. I'd say the time limits between posting were much more annoying.

The forum is getting hit daily with loads of copy and paste bots all over. At least when they were locked in the newb sub it was quicker and easier to spot.

Is there any discussion going on between the mods or admins about bringing that section back?

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Honestly, was Newbie Jail that bad? It's not like it took months to get out. Except for people with the attention span of a goldfish, having to wait for a few hours before being able to post in the main forums is not a big deal, especially if it means less troll/spam/fud posts.

But there never have been noob restrictions for local Boards. What you are experiencing is simply due to increased user base, not restriction changes.

+1 to confirm that the spanish forums are now suffering from an increased level of "well said!!" and "me too!" useless posts.

+1

Since the removal of newbie jail, we've been overrun with new accounts starting trollish/FUD threads, especially in "Speculation" and "Bitcoin Discussion."  I think Oda's suggestion above makes a lot of sense.

Thanks for the clarifications.

I will just keep clicking on the usernames to see the date of registration when in doubt.

As for my own status here I suppose will just have to try to contribute a bit more than I have over the last couple of years!

It won't count your time online if you aren't logged in.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ignore-250369

or off-site

though I suspect most accounts were acquired through hacked email accounts, or due to registrants' password reuse.

None taken, and no it's not a bought account.

I would agree that if Time on the forum is generally correctly reported it would be almost as useful as Date Registered.

Could you not then display Total Time Spent Online next to the username so you don't have to click (twice) to see how much knowledge/experience a poster is likely to have?

Thanks for removing the 360 second delay.

You have to make a post within the two week time period to get the 14 activity points.

If that is supposed to reflect total time spent on the forum since registration it can't possibly be correct? I must have spent at least 500 hours reading on here since 2011.

There was a period of about a year or so when the forum was hacked and passwords compromised when I didn't log into my account, and occasionally I don't login depending on what computer/device I am on, but it still has to be far more than 34-35 hours in total?

Where is the marketplace for these old accounts? Realistically how many of us old members that have been involved with Bitcoin for several years could there be that would be willing to sell our accounts on here for a couple of BTC?

Not very many I suspect...

Coming back one more time to this topic...

I've made use of the 'report' function a few times now, and it works well enough for new, spammy threads.

But it basically completely fails for the (low level) noise that is unhelpful comments, in my opinion.

A semi-smart troll will simply avoid the most outrageous forms of trolling (like being racist, etc), and so will usually avoid his comment being removed. More specifically: it's not the trolling itself that's the problem (a good community can "support" a number of troll posters), but the overall signal-to-noise ratio. Which dropped sharply lately, and in my opinion, that's at least partially related to the lifting of the "newbie restrictions".

Several threads I kept reading for a long time are now littered with 'ignored' posts (and I'm not actually very trigger happy when it comes to ignores), and I'm sure others will have a similar experience (judging by how almost no one answers to the ignored posts). But that's not a solution either: it changes the atmosphere of a thread if it's an ignored comment graveyard.... I notice that I feel less interested in actually adding to the "discussion" if 2 out of 5 comments are extremely low quality.

Sorry if all of this sounds like elitist newbie bashing. It's really not meant like that. We obviously *need* new input, and I'm not around that long either. My point is simply that a *completely* open access model (as we have it now) seems not able to cope with the large amounts of newcomers who don't feel like contributing properly. A way to make at least a small effort at preselection is necessary, in my opinion, and like I said before, I would suggest to allows mods to set  a 'minium activity' level for boards, that can start rather low, if for no other reason than to see it as an experiment, and whether it helps in combating the Eternal September we see right now.

No offense, but yours could be the perfect example of bought account (not saying it is). I think the activity parameters is working pretty well and mitigated the spam problem.

By default, only Activity is shown because it is more important than the registration date; you can easily buy a scarcely used account that was registered in 2011.

I'm not sure you know how the Activity is calculated so take a read:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/activity-new-membergroup-limits-237597

BTW. You are not only not very talkative, but you also don't seem to read much:

Can I ask why Date Registered is not shown next to the username?

I have been involved in Bitcoin and a member of this forum since mid-2011 and just because I'm not very talkative I'm still considered a "newbie". It doesn't really bother me that much personally, but when I read certain threads I often have to click the username to see when a poster first registered on the forum.

With time and experience comes perspective, at least in some discussions that keep coming back again and again, more so than with post count IMO...

I know that the current system isn't perfect, but for now, if you want feedback on any reports you've made, any global moderator or above can provide you with that as long as you request that information within 14 days of the report. We try to tell people about why we marked their reports as bad if we notice that bad reports are a recurring pattern for them, but otherwise we really can't take the time to do that for every bad report.