Topic: Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread (Read 14640 times)

Well with yesterday results Ajax willing to go into more spots in the eredivisie is no longer available. I dont was expecting at all the win from Az over Twente, more thinking about Az was falling in key matches in several ocasions in this season.

So well we have the 4 first spot decided, and maybe the 5 also, or not Ajax.....

Actually Ajax will be participating in the Europa by next season so i think they have tried well enough to hwv gotten to this point where they can get to secure such qualifications because If we should look back in time at the beginning of the season, Ajax did had a terrible performance and so were their results also poor a d it was obvious they had a very bad productivity and one will think they were going to end the season relegated.

This has been the reason why I still say Ajax finishing at the fifth position making them eligible to play in the Europa again is actually an achievement for them because I expected They would have done much lesser but now they have hopes of participation in another league away from the eredivisie next season. Their motivation was actually down earlier which I think emanated from the change of their head coach but then they had a rapid recovery which brought them this far later on, ofcourse other teams aren't asleep and would not just allow anybody displace them if not it's possible Ajax would have gone beyond the sixth position.

The europa is like the second biggest elite league across Europe after the champions league so contrary to your statement about the players knowing they are not going to play inna big league I think they are actually going to do so in the Europa and if they want the champions league they will have to work hard next season and they can achieve it. By the way congratulations to PSV it's a wells deserved victory.

PSV Eindhoven beat Sparta Rotterdam 4-2 to win the 2024 Dutch title on today. Congrats PSV. PSV clinched their 25th Dutch Eredivisie title with two matches to spare, and it is their first domestic success since 2018. Ajax, who are in lower ranks this season, are the record holders in the Netherlands' top-tier league with 36 titles.

Following the home win, PSV have 87 points in 32 matches. Last season's Dutch champions Feyenoord are currently in the second position with 75 points.

Winning in Rotterdam derby is great way to take title. And match itself wasn't bad, Sparta gave great fight. PSVwas so dominant this season that probably already in the middle of season there was no doubts about who will win trophy. It's only sad that they didn't managed to make Invincibles season without defeats. And offcourse, they wanted to go further in UEFA cup than they did this year.
AZ took important win against direct competitor for spot in Champions league Twente. Now they still have chance to reach Twente as they're leading by 2 points.

That's not true, now they're 5th what would give them spot in Europa league qualification. If they will finish 6th, they will have playoff between 6-9 placed teams for spot in Conference league.

PSV 4 - 2 Sparta Rotterdam

it was an incredible victory for PSV, with this victory PSV became champions, in recent years PSV had been fighting hard to win the league and they were unlucky because Feyenoord managed to overcome them and they became champions, but this season PSV finally managed win the league. I believe that the coach and management of the team and the players are very happy with this result, they had a great campaign this season, there were 32 games, 28 wins, 1 loss, 107 goals scored. It's incredible how they managed to score 107 goals in 32 games, this shows how they have a very efficient attack.



source: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6lmOYbIVpn/?g=5&img_index=1

Congratulations to PSV, they deserve it, they were the best team this season.

Volendam 1 - 4 Ajax

Despite this incredible victory for Ajax, they have no chance of going to the European competitions, and what Ajax is going through is a lot of humiliation, finishing in position 5 is very disappointing, when I look at the table:



and I see that Ajax is in position 5 and would need 9 points to reach the team in position 4, then I think: it's a lot of disappointment, normally we should be talking about them being close to being champions or becoming champions, but we are talking about They couldn't even be in the top 4 and are far from reaching the top 4 team. I wonder how they will be able to compete against these teams that will go to European competitions next season and will have more financial resources and be able to strengthen themselves even more.

Congratulations to PSV and Feyenoord, PSV became champions and Feyenoord vice-champions. PSV have scored 107 goals so far this season, so not without scoring so many goals and the season is not over yet.

Next season can only get better for Ajax, this season was really forgettable.

It's a shame they only play in the domestic league next season. That's terrible for team officials and players. I think many players don't like only playing in the domestic league especially if it is Ajax. Some people are betting that Ajax will be champions at the end of the season. They managed to be in the top 3 last season and currently Ajax is ranked fifth. I think it will be very impossible for them to catch AZ Alkmaar in fourth position. Ajax must win the remaining 3 matches and Alkmaar loses in a row in all matches.

I hope Ajax can be better next season. They should be able to get into the top 3 or even become champions next season. They don't have a schedule for international competitions so they can focus on the Eredivise.

Yeah not only Ajax and Ajax fans were super dissapointing with this performance i think also bettors, and we are in the gambling section, how many bets detroy this Ajax?

I think the number if we can have one is gonna be huge, because we have the people who support Ajax whatever they go, and also the people who thinks, well this bad run is over lets put some money on them because they are gonna start to win...... and well we all know how it ended.

Ajax at this point have been a shadow of themselves and since ETH left the club, they have not been able to perform at the top level where they do. Well now this kind of performance grew very badly this season especially in the league as you see them always struggling and they even got eliminated in the conference league.

 Their problem can be tracked down to the poor shape of the team due to them selling out on their key players like ANthony, Martinez, De Jong, De Ligt etc. when a club sells her major players without having a proper plan for replacement brings the club to doom and that’s where Ajax are now this season both in the league qnd in Europe. Also departure of key persons in the team’s management is one big one that also affected the team performance and yes they can track back.

 The issue will be will they be able to have the patience while they track back?I think the Board should now try to be able to balance getting financial sustainability and the general club’s performance because while selling out they should also make room to be able to get some major signings. Ajax board need to sit down and get the perfect way out of this challenge then they can get the team back to the main strata.

Ajax this season has become a team that is indeed unreliable in competing for trophies, this season they have been eliminated in the Conference League by Aston Villa, Ajax poor performance this season has made them also slumped in the league, the number of main players who have left in recent seasons has certainly made Ajax performance continue to decline and this season it seems that it will be difficult for us to see Ajax can again dominate the Eredivisie like he previous seasons, at this time it seems impossible for us to see if Ajax can return to play in the Champions League next season after they are far behind the Champions League zone, and even to catch FC Twente in the Champions League qualifiers seems difficult because the difference in points that are very far and also the remaining 3 match.


At present, Ajax opportunity is only to stay in the European qualification zone, and but of course it will be difficult for them to get Europa League tickets if they do not immediately improve their performance in the rest of the season, reportedly at this time Ajax has begun to approach several coaches including Ten Hag to face competition next season, but I think Ajax current slump is not the coach's fault, but we can say it is the impact of greedy Ajax management who continue to sell their star players when a big offer came to their table during this time.

The fact is nothing make the Ajax team feels motivated this season, and that destroy the whole team, only the Europa League was some to play but they were out and they dont have any other thing to push on them.

ITs feel really bad for such a big team being in this scenario. And worst for some players who know next year they are not gonna play in big european tournaments.

We are having 58 points currently for the AZ Alkmaar and 49 for the Ajax with in last 10 games we are having 22 points for the AZ Alkmaar and 14 for the Ajax which is giving all how things gone for the Ajax because they were able to overtake them, but their inconsistency gives them huge setbacks, and they fail to achieve their best due to poor performance and lack of confidence but still we have to praise Ajax because they are having chance to end their worst season at the 5th spot which is still good achievement for them.

I feel like that we are having good chance for the Ajax to improve their performance and quality in coming season and having their best which is not easy but still things can take change which are part of the play hopefully we will have good investment in quality players, and they will be able to achieve which they deserve in this league.

PSV have showed a lot of improvement this season and you can see that in the way they perform in the league and off the league too whilst they were in Europe. This team are really meriting whatever they will be winning this season as they have been able to show a strong fighting spirit which has brought them to where they are. ⁠They will soon be crowned league winners because of the number of points they have been able to accumulate, this shows a strong resilience. Whilst gathering points they never failed to make a statement with the large number of goals they pull in and that shows a fierce attack.

 ⁠They have been able to successfully build on their attack and make it one fierce one for others in the league to compete against because they have been able to score over 19 goals in their past 3 matches. This is a big testament that their attack is one strong one and should be considered as one of Europe’s finest.

 The team have a nice strategy of approaching matches and I would say this strategy is real working for them and they should consolidate on it whilst they head to the new season. The board shouldn’t also fail in trying to acquire some great players that will still help to boost the club’s success.

No one having any doubt about Ajax having terrible season and things were worst for them from the start of the season even one stage we have talked about them can they survive, or we are going to watch their historical downfall, but good thing happen they fight back and now having good chance for staying at the fifth spot with going for the Europa League qualification which is also good but still fans needs to be forgotten about this what happen to them in this season.

In the coming season, how things will be work it's not easy to predict about we are having top teams are going to dominate for another season and things will be not easy for them to have chance for staying into top three, but they needed to be started with the new strategy and new look which improve their confidence level and give them success which is trademark of this legendary clubs.

The difference between Ajax and Alkmaar was just big enough they would literally need more than a game to be able to get to meet Alkmaar, winning at least three games and Alkmaar loosing the three in a row aswell will be the only reason they will be able to comfortably get to win Alkmaar or stay ahead of Alkmaar in the table but then they are lucky they are able to finish at the fifth position after been able to improve because their performance this season was actually such that i taught they were actually not going to get to this point on the table but they have been able to gk against all odds.

Next season they will probably get to improve much better to being the ajax that was known across the eredivisie league .

PSV is having a good campaign this season, even last season they did very well and finished in second place and this season they are very close to becoming champions and in these last games PSV has been a team with a very aggressive attack coming scoring lots of goals. For example, PSV's performance in the last 3 games has a scenario in which they scored a lot of goals:

Heerenveen 0 - 8 PSV Eindhoven

It was simply a very humiliating result for Heerenveen who conceded 8 goals and failed to score a single goal. It even looked like PSV were playing against a team from the relegation zone or the second division

PSV 6 - 0 Vitesse

in this game and psv scored 6 goals and didn't concede any goals and they were playing against the worst team in the league, we could think that this result was due to the fact that psv was playing against the worst team in the league, but we saw that psv can do better than that even playing against teams that are far from the relegation zone

PSV 5 - 1 AZ

Even playing against a team that is in position 4, PSV's attack was still unstoppable, reaching the point of scoring 5 goals against a top 4 team.

The next game will be against an opponent who lost in just 1 game in the last 5 games:



A victory in the PSV game becomes champion. I wonder:

how many goals will PSV score? 


unfortunately Ajax will have to accept the fact that they are left out of the top 4. I hope that next season they improve, because the last 2 seasons were a huge disaster

I want to make some conclussions about Ajax season but is a nonsense, the only good thing for them right now is when the season over, and close this bad episode of his history and start to look ahead and write new pages in a new book.

Because nothing can be saved from this season , all was bad.

The only good thing for them right now is the last 3 games are against 3 weak teams so they can seal this 5 position without so much issues.

Ajax lost the chance to catch up with AZ Alkmaar in the remaining weeks.In this match, Bergwijn's red card, which left his team 10 men in the early minutes, prevented Ajax from getting a possible win here. With Akpom's goal in the last minutes, Ajax at least managed to draw at home and increased their points to 49.It is important for Excelsior to get points in such matches to stay in the league.There is a 1 point difference between them and their rival and the team in 16th place will play out.

With 3 games left, of course it is difficult for Ajax to be able to eliminate Alkmaar from the position of the Europa League zone next season, currently the two teams are 9 points apart so Alkmaar only needs one game with a draw to make Ajax's chances of playing in the Europa League next season buried, Ajax's performance this season is of course quite bad after last season they could compete in the Europa League zone,  The number of players who left last season made Ajax currently really unable to compete and even quite surprising if this season actually had to get out of the top 4 rankings.

Ajax this season is late for hot so they did find it difficult to improve their position when the season is almost over and I think Ajax's habit of continuing to sell their mainstay players so far is the cause of their slump, I think it is very difficult to see Alkmaar will slip up in their remaining three games of the season let alone we can see if only FC Twente is their most difficult opponent later,  while Fc Ultrecht and Go Ahead Eagles may not be difficult opponents for Alkmaar to get 3 points or at least 1 point in that the match.

Just 1 point and Alkmaar will lock fourth place. I think Ajax has no chance of playing in the European league next season. It would be impossible if you said Alkmaar would lose all their games going forward and Ajax would miraculously win all of them. I think Ajax has tried to do its best. They had a lot of bad results at the start of the season but in the middle of the season they managed to improve their performance and were able to catch up to 5th place in the standings. If they continue to be consistent after the middle of the season I think it is not impossible for Ajax to qualify for the Champions League.