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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on February 13, 2023, 01:05:00 PM

There is only 6 points difference between Feyenoord in first place and Twente in fifth place. This shows that Feyenoord will have to work very hard to keep his place. Every team wants to be the champion in the Dutch league and at the moment the scoreboard is very mixed. Still my favorite for the championship is Ajax.

I can't remember the last time it was this close in the Eredivisie, you have to admit that this year Ajax and PSV are not that strong either, think how many points Ajax and PSV had in this round last year, unbelievable. But this year Ajax and PSV are a bit weaker than the last years and the other teams a bit better, perfect for us. To become champions is also a declared goal of the teams, it's about the fixed Champions League place and a lot of money.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 13, 2023, 04:01:29 AM

Ajax won the game with a strong finish, and it was deserved, Ajax had 74% possession but possession alone does not decide a game.

The TOP5 won all their games, Ajax got back on track after many draws and unlike the others won the last 3 games and are now back in the title race. Feyenoord has a very difficult match against AZ in the next round, the current table.

With these temporary rankings, all five clubs have same chances to win the Eredivisie title. They are not too different on the table and this league is like a most exciting league in Europe in 2022 - 2023 season. I am aware that Eredivisie does not belong to top five leagues in Europe that are Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Ligue 1 but about title race, it is a best at least in this season.

Ajax are still in the race but the leaves of Ten Hag and some star players make them less competitive than previous seasons but with these rankings, they can win Eredivisie again.

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Win 3:1 against Waalwijk wasn't that easy as it looks in final score. They let opponents to score first and only took a lead in final 15 minutes game. I still wouldn't make conclusions about Heitinga, as they haven't faced strong opponents yet. Yeah, they won against Twente in cup, but cup games isn't best indicator. Let's see how they will look in Europa league playoffs against Union.

Ajax won the game with a strong finish, and it was deserved, Ajax had 74% possession but possession alone does not decide a game.

The TOP5 won all their games, Ajax got back on track after many draws and unlike the others won the last 3 games and are now back in the title race. Feyenoord has a very difficult match against AZ in the next round, the current table.

After 21 rounds now we have interesting change of momentum in Eredivisie as top four teams having just 4 points difference which is interesting now in 22nd round we will have good change at top with Feyenoord is going to AZ Alkmaar which is going to be helpful for the third and fourth spotted teams Ajax and PSV because in case of lost AZ Alkmaar will be at fourth and in case of draw still they will have chance for the having drop of their spot which is entertaining because we will have top teams at top spots and things could be interesting for the end of this season which will have three same quality teams at top with level in performance will fight for the title race, but AZ Alkmaar still have chance to stay in hunt behind them and take their chance for the title or higher rank as well.

There could also be some general turnaround in the Eredivisie for the years to come as Ajax Amsterdam had to sell their key players so often now. Not always will it work out to quickly replace them. At some point they might be suffering from giving away those players and the other teams can catch up. It seems to be the case for now. That is good news for everyone who is following the league and not so good for the Ajax Amsterdam fans. Wink

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 13, 2023, 02:38:05 PM

Maybe all of those games were against weak teams but these wins are very important for Ajax anyway. Because they needed to boost their morale somehow.

They scored 12 goals and conceded 2 in their last 3 games in the league. These are amazing statistics for Ajax indeed. It's like the version of them we are familiar with is back again now. This is really important for them as well right before the beginning of the Europa League. Maybe their priority is the Eredivisie but I think they would do their best in the Europa League as well.

Relatively in round 21 we have mostly matches of top teams against weaker sides which give them good confidence but now in round 22 we have few exciting matches as Feyenoord is going to host AZ Alkmaar and then PSV is going to visit Utrecht which is playing good soccer at home and PSV is struggling in away matches Ajax is going to host Sparta Rotterdam which is also improving their performance and now having not lost in last five games even Ajax can ruin them at home but still better games which will surely bring some changes at the top, and we will have interesting phase of this season with UEFA competitions are also going to start from today and all top Dutch teams are also involved in them.

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Maybe all of those games were against weak teams but these wins are very important for Ajax anyway. Because they needed to boost their morale somehow.

They scored 12 goals and conceded 2 in their last 3 games in the league. These are amazing statistics for Ajax indeed. It's like the version of them we are familiar with is back again now. This is really important for them as well right before the beginning of the Europa League. Maybe their priority is the Eredivisie but I think they would do their best in the Europa League as well.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on February 12, 2023, 05:55:06 PM

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Let's see how they will look in Europa league playoffs against Union.

Union is rolling pretty seriously at the moment, winning all matches after WC, and having Ajax win @1.9 for this match is a joke IMO
not saying that Ajax is not going to win this, but I expected in range 2.3-2.5, below 2 has no value at all

but DC on Union, not to lose, can be a good option for betting

with all said, match can go on any side, but Union should pass through in the end

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on February 12, 2023, 05:18:03 PM

Quote from: minime0105 on February 12, 2023, 01:48:59 PM

Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.

Since the arrival of the Heitinga, Ajax has indeed won all 3 matches, but what does that say in this competition? A winning coach is always right, and in the end it's all about the points in football. Then we must conclude that he did a very good job. Still, they could have easily lost the match against Excelsior (that wouldn't even have been strange). But it also shows resilience that they still managed to win today's game despite an earlier deficit. I think that is also part of the quality of a player / team. For many players, the focus will be on the European matches that will be played in the coming days.

There is only 6 points difference between Feyenoord in first place and Twente in fifth place. This shows that Feyenoord will have to work very hard to keep his place. Every team wants to be the champion in the Dutch league and at the moment the scoreboard is very mixed. Still my favorite for the championship is Ajax.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on February 13, 2023, 04:01:29 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on February 12, 2023, 05:55:06 PM

Win 3:1 against Waalwijk wasn't that easy as it looks in final score. They let opponents to score first and only took a lead in final 15 minutes game. I still wouldn't make conclusions about Heitinga, as they haven't faced strong opponents yet. Yeah, they won against Twente in cup, but cup games isn't best indicator. Let's see how they will look in Europa league playoffs against Union.

Ajax won the game with a strong finish, and it was deserved, Ajax had 74% possession but possession alone does not decide a game.

The TOP5 won all their games, Ajax got back on track after many draws and unlike the others won the last 3 games and are now back in the title race. Feyenoord has a very difficult match against AZ in the next round, the current table.

After 21 rounds now we have interesting change of momentum in Eredivisie as top four teams having just 4 points difference which is interesting now in 22nd round we will have good change at top with Feyenoord is going to AZ Alkmaar which is going to be helpful for the third and fourth spotted teams Ajax and PSV because in case of lost AZ Alkmaar will be at fourth and in case of draw still they will have chance for the having drop of their spot which is entertaining because we will have top teams at top spots and things could be interesting for the end of this season which will have three same quality teams at top with level in performance will fight for the title race, but AZ Alkmaar still have chance to stay in hunt behind them and take their chance for the title or higher rank as well.

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Man Twente its paying 67 to win the championship, its a really good one oportunity to risk some money.

And AZ also its paying x17... really good odds seeing the bigs are not so powerfull like other years.

The rest of the teams odds.

- Ajax 2.62
- PSV 4.33
- Feyenoord 2.10

Source : BET365.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on February 12, 2023, 05:55:06 PM

Win 3:1 against Waalwijk wasn't that easy as it looks in final score. They let opponents to score first and only took a lead in final 15 minutes game. I still wouldn't make conclusions about Heitinga, as they haven't faced strong opponents yet. Yeah, they won against Twente in cup, but cup games isn't best indicator. Let's see how they will look in Europa league playoffs against Union.

Ajax won the game with a strong finish, and it was deserved, Ajax had 74% possession but possession alone does not decide a game.

The TOP5 won all their games, Ajax got back on track after many draws and unlike the others won the last 3 games and are now back in the title race. Feyenoord has a very difficult match against AZ in the next round, the current table.

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Quote from: minime0105 on February 12, 2023, 01:48:59 PM

Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.

i'm laughing because in this game ajax conceded a goal in the 18 minutes, so i wonder if someone managed to bet on ajax's victory even though they were losing after 18 minutes, if someone bet on ajax when they were losing then that person must have gotten a decent odd on this game, I didn't particularly bet on this game or any Dutch league game, but I confess that if I had seen ajax's game after the 18 minutes they lost, I would have bet on them, it would be an easy profit

about the position of each team in the table, with this return of ajax we can already predict that in a few games we will see ajax at the top of the table and being champion, I do not see any other scenario at the end of the season, ajax will be champion once again

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In this round status quo remains, as all teams from leading group won their games. Feyenoord had most diffiuclt win 1:2 against Heerenveen. While PSV had one of the most dominating performances this season, destroying Groningen 6:0. Their stats looks amazing, 34 shots, 13 on target.

Quote from: minime0105 on February 12, 2023, 01:48:59 PM

Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.

Win 3:1 against Waalwijk wasn't that easy as it looks in final score. They let opponents to score first and only took a lead in final 15 minutes game. I still wouldn't make conclusions about Heitinga, as they haven't faced strong opponents yet. Yeah, they won against Twente in cup, but cup games isn't best indicator. Let's see how they will look in Europa league playoffs against Union.

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Quote from: minime0105 on February 12, 2023, 01:48:59 PM

Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.

Since the arrival of the Heitinga, Ajax has indeed won all 3 matches, but what does that say in this competition? A winning coach is always right, and in the end it's all about the points in football. Then we must conclude that he did a very good job. Still, they could have easily lost the match against Excelsior (that wouldn't even have been strange). But it also shows resilience that they still managed to win today's game despite an earlier deficit. I think that is also part of the quality of a player / team. For many players, the focus will be on the European matches that will be played in the coming days.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on February 12, 2023, 03:44:52 PM

So Jhon Heitinga its now the manager of Ajax, really nice to see him. I remember him a lot in the netherland national team, he was a regular one.

Later im gonna check some odds....

Yes that's right. Heitinga has been in charge of Ajax's 2nd team for the past few years and Ajax has decided to temporarily make him head coach. Little experience, but a child of the club and knows all the players. He may even have played together with some at Ajax. Schreuder made a very immature and childish impression in his press conferences. Peter Bosz was also free as a coach, but seems not to have been approached. But you can't call Ajax's last 3 matches because they were significantly lesser opponents. In the EL next week we will see where Ajax really stands against Union Berlin.

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So Jhon Heitinga its now the manager of Ajax, really nice to see him. I remember him a lot in the netherland national team, he was a regular one.

Later im gonna check some odds....

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Ajax has improved recently, after the international break ajax played several matches without winning they even struggle for a draw but their consecutive winning lately has proven that they have really improved drastically, we all know that ajax is been known for their tactical and aggressive attacking football that what happened today in a between them and waalwijk, an encounter that ended 3:1 in favour of Ajax, but a lot has to be done by ajax in the area of defensive mildfield.

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Ajax is currently at a 1-1 score in the home match against RKC. Still quite a loss if you think about it. Structurally, a lot still needs to change. It is a matter of time before Ajax will no longer compete for the title. Twente was already leading 3-0 in the first half and we still see that score on the board now. Vitesse has been almost at the bottom for a while, but has too much quality. They have climbed out of the valley, but I don't think there is more than enforcement for this team. Still curious if a coach like Peter Bosz could bring Ajax back to the old level.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on February 11, 2023, 05:15:14 PM

PSV played hard today in the home game against gronigen, one of the worst teams in the Eredivisie this season. And Fortuna Sittard has also had an excellent season so far. Since a Turkish trainer came to power there, things have only gone very well. And the arrival of Burak Yilmaz will certainly have contributed to that, I think. Emmen still need not panic. How will Ajax and Feyenoord do tomorrow? Both teams also have important games next week in European tournaments, so the question is how the players will be deployed in this match. Things seem to have only gotten better with Ajax since Schreuder left there. I think he can forget his coaching career.

The European League have challenge opponents with the best quality of play from various Leagues. This situation will be a consideration for these two clubs, they may face a big challenge in the Europa League, I think these two clubs prefer to continue to compete consistently in the Eredivisie.

Feyenoord managed to end the match with a 2-1 win today, while Ajax are struggling as they go 1-0 down after Mats Seuntjens scored for Waalwijk in the 17th minute
The Ajax vs Waalwijk match enters the 30th minute

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on February 12, 2023, 11:00:20 AM

Difficult Feyenoord victory, but who cares? Won is won. Ajax and Twente have now also started their matches and both play a home match against a team that is weak on paper. Those should be easy wins too. By the way, PSV won very easily against Groningen yesterday and at the end of the match there was a score of 6-0 on the scoreboard. Those are big numbers. There are basically 5 title candidates, who will be the first to drop out? I would also like to see Twente and AZ finish in first place, but they are qualitatively below Ajax. But maybe even above Feyenoord.

PSV, Feyenoord and Ajax have always been the 3 big clubs in the Netherlands. From Twente it is actually a miracle that they still exist, this club almost went bankrupt a few years ago and I don't think it was saved with the help of the municipality. That they are now so high is very clever, but Ron Jans, the trainer also had a large share in that, I think. And Sparta is in a place they could only dream of. Had to fight relegation all year last year, that time seems to be over. And next week there will also be many European matches, with that in mind, certain teams will have given players some rest.

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Difficult Feyenoord victory, but who cares? Won is won. Ajax and Twente have now also started their matches and both play a home match against a team that is weak on paper. Those should be easy wins too. By the way, PSV won very easily against Groningen yesterday and at the end of the match there was a score of 6-0 on the scoreboard. Those are big numbers. There are basically 5 title candidates, who will be the first to drop out? I would also like to see Twente and AZ finish in first place, but they are qualitatively below Ajax. But maybe even above Feyenoord.

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