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May 03, 2014, 03:35:56 AM
Thanks for the kind words, Colin.

I've been watching the new difficulty adjustments all week.  We even hit diff 100 yesterday.  One thing is for sure, if we didn't diff fix it, there would be a massive dump right now on cryptsy.  Instead, the coin has gone up 500% since last week, which as you and Git noted could be good or bad (i.e., there still could be a build to a dump).

Right now (at block 50084), the average over the past 100 blocks is 125.13 seconds per block...on average, we're on spec.

Yet, there are many batches of blocks that do fly by.  I've copied cryptoexplorer below.

My guesses about a few factors that could be at work:

(A) Any averaging algorithm is still going to have a lag when there are sudden high spikes.  Even if more recent blocks are weighted more highly, if the Gigahash jumps by a factor of ten, a diff adjustment based on averages is going to take a few blocks to catch up.  But is that what we are seeing here?

Easy example: if the diff adj is based on the average of the past three blocks, and on block 3 the total net hash jumps up by a factor of 10 from the previous two blocks, (1+1+10)/3 = 4: you're still going to be 2.5 lower than where you want to be on the next block.  Two blocks in, (1+10+10)/3 = 7, still 30% short of ideal.

(B) Someone knows how to milk KGW in pulses to take advantage of this.  A disadvantage to an algorithm without a lot of disclosure of its innards, yet one folks have learned to exploit because of its popularity?

Take a look at blocks 50080 to 50070: prev block takes 14 mins, then, bam, 7 blocks in two minutes (avg = 17s/block), then a 10-minute block, then an HOUR block, then things pick up again.  Since there's no easy equation to replicate the approach of KGW, the question to empirically determine is: how many blocks are taken at a sub 2-minute rate vs. normal rate?  I did a quick hand tally of the hundred blocks below and about 80% of the blocks are getting solved in under 2 mins, the other 20% take much longer on average.  As noted above, though, the overall average of 2mins/block is still conserved.

Perhaps larger pools already know to hit it hard, then leave for a bit, to keep the over-time average on spec?  This would basically take advantage of the 270-block weighted average approach of KGW.  It adjusts smoothly, so it's flabby in response to short spikes. Faster adjustment might be the solution here.


50084   2014-05-03 07:46:37   1   1   21.686   50084.9849   56.0712   130.415   18.5466%
50083   2014-05-03 07:46:04   1   1   21.301   50083.9849   56.0719   130.414   18.5467%
50082   2014-05-03 07:45:22   3   4.87788862   21.555   50082.9849   56.0726   130.414   18.5469%
50081   2014-05-03 07:41:23   2   4   22.251   50081.9849   56.071   130.411   18.5475%
50080   2014-05-03 07:30:52   2   10.0001   26.724   50080.9849   56.0648   130.404   18.5495%
50079   2014-05-03 06:39:28   1   1   27.565   50079.9849   56.0303   130.368   18.559%
50078   2014-05-03 06:29:52   1   1   27.176   50078.9849   56.0247   130.361   18.5608%
50077   2014-05-03 06:26:38   1   1   26.685   50077.9849   56.0236   130.359   18.5614%
50076   2014-05-03 06:26:34   2   2   26.552   50076.9849   56.0247   130.359   18.5615%
50075   2014-05-03 06:26:02   1   1   26.504   50075.9849   56.0255   130.359   18.5615%
50074   2014-05-03 06:25:51   1   1   25.867   50074.9849   56.0265   130.358   18.5615%
50073   2014-05-03 06:25:19   1   1   24.393   50073.9849   56.0272   130.358   18.5616%
50072   2014-05-03 06:25:13   1   1   24.321   50072.9849   56.0283   130.358   18.5616%
50071   2014-05-03 06:25:07   1   1   24.361   50071.9849   56.0293   130.358   18.5617%
50070   2014-05-03 06:24:23   2   2.46880198   26.036   50070.9849   56.0299   130.357   18.5618%
50069   2014-05-03 06:10:21   1   1   27.023   50069.9849   56.0213   130.348   18.5644%
50068   2014-05-03 06:02:43   4   93.79238899   31.008   50068.9849   56.0172   130.342   18.5658%
50067   2014-05-03 05:35:16   3   6   30.679   50067.9849   56.0124   130.323   18.5517%
50066   2014-05-03 05:30:18   1   1   30.822   50066.9849   56.0101   130.32   18.5526%
50065   2014-05-03 05:28:36   1   1   30.238   50065.9849   56.01   130.319   18.553%
50064   2014-05-03 05:28:23   4   16.53781217   30.263   50064.9849   56.011   130.319   18.553%
50063   2014-05-03 05:22:48   1   1   19.925   50063.9849   56.0087   130.315   18.5534%
50062   2014-05-03 05:22:40   1   1   19.869   50062.9849   56.0097   130.315   18.5534%
50061   2014-05-03 05:22:10   2   1000.999   20.061   50061.9849   56.0105   130.314   18.5535%
50060   2014-05-03 05:18:18   1   1   19.232   50060.9849   57.0023   130.312   17.1096%
50059   2014-05-03 05:17:57   1   1   19.287   50059.9849   57.0033   130.311   17.1097%
50058   2014-05-03 05:18:00   1   1   19.261   50058.9849   57.0044   130.311   17.1097%
50057   2014-05-03 05:17:58   1   1   19.292   50057.9849   57.0055   130.311   17.1097%
50056   2014-05-03 05:17:12   1   1   19.165   50056.9849   57.0061   130.311   17.1098%
50055   2014-05-03 05:16:58   1   1   19.229   50055.9849   57.0071   130.311   17.1099%
50054   2014-05-03 05:16:53   1   1   19.222   50054.9849   57.0082   130.311   17.1099%
50053   2014-05-03 05:16:43   1   1   19.221   50053.9849   57.0092   130.31   17.1099%
50052   2014-05-03 05:16:31   1   1   19.172   50052.9849   57.0102   130.31   17.11%
50051   2014-05-03 05:16:03   2   3.18004085   19.132   50051.9849   57.011   130.31   17.11%
50050   2014-05-03 05:15:49   1   1   19.084   50050.9849   57.012   130.31   17.11%
50049   2014-05-03 05:15:46   1   1   19.179   50049.9849   57.0131   130.31   17.11%
50048   2014-05-03 05:15:41   1   1   19.072   50048.9849   57.0142   130.31   17.11%
50047   2014-05-03 05:15:11   1   1   19.088   50047.9849   57.015   130.309   17.1101%
50046   2014-05-03 05:14:42   1   1   19.09   50046.9849   57.0158   130.309   17.1102%
50045   2014-05-03 05:14:22   1   1   19.042   50045.9849   57.0167   130.309   17.1103%
50044   2014-05-03 05:14:15   1   1   19.036   50044.9849   57.0178   130.309   17.1103%
50043   2014-05-03 05:14:07   1   1   19.02   50043.9849   57.0188   130.309   17.1103%
50042   2014-05-03 05:14:02   1   1   18.998   50042.9849   57.0199   130.309   17.1103%
50041   2014-05-03 05:13:55   1   1   18.972   50041.9849   57.021   130.308   17.1104%
50040   2014-05-03 05:12:18   2   4   19.081   50040.9849   57.021   130.307   17.1106%
50039   2014-05-03 05:10:32   1   1   19.066   50039.9849   57.0209   130.306   17.1109%
50038   2014-05-03 05:10:23   1   1   19.051   50038.9849   57.022   130.306   17.1109%
50037   2014-05-03 05:10:15   1   1   19.044   50037.9849   57.023   130.306   17.111%
50036   2014-05-03 05:10:05   2   2   19.037   50036.9849   57.024   130.306   17.111%
50035   2014-05-03 05:09:57   1   1   19.052   50035.9849   57.0251   130.306   17.111%
50034   2014-05-03 05:09:25   1   1   19.034   50034.9849   57.0259   130.305   17.1111%
50033   2014-05-03 05:09:10   1   1   19.037   50033.9849   57.0268   130.305   17.1112%
50032   2014-05-03 05:08:31   1   1   18.997   50032.9849   57.0275   130.305   17.1113%
50031   2014-05-03 05:08:29   2   47.0005   20.037   50031.9849   57.0286   130.305   17.1113%
50030   2014-05-03 04:54:03   1   1   20.003   50030.9849   57.0199   130.295   17.1135%
50029   2014-05-03 04:53:28   1   1   19.936   50029.9849   57.0206   130.294   17.1136%
50028   2014-05-03 04:53:26   1   1   19.591   50028.9849   57.0218   130.294   17.1136%
50027   2014-05-03 04:53:13   2   2.0001   19.44   50027.9849   57.0228   130.294   17.1136%
50026   2014-05-03 04:52:12   1   1   19.292   50026.9849   57.0232   130.293   17.1138%
50025   2014-05-03 04:51:58   1   1   18.599   50025.9849   57.0242   130.293   17.1139%
50024   2014-05-03 04:51:29   1   1   18.594   50024.9849   57.025   130.293   17.1139%
50023   2014-05-03 04:51:05   1   1   18.582   50023.9849   57.0258   130.293   17.114%
50022   2014-05-03 04:50:54   1   1   18.566   50022.9849   57.0269   130.292   17.114%
50021   2014-05-03 04:50:57   1   1   18.563   50021.9849   57.028   130.293   17.114%
50020   2014-05-03 04:50:36   1   1   18.573   50020.9849   57.0289   130.292   17.1141%
50019   2014-05-03 04:50:08   1   1   18.507   50019.9849   57.0297   130.292   17.1142%
50018   2014-05-03 04:49:09   2   2   18.52   50018.9849   57.0302   130.291   17.1143%
50017   2014-05-03 04:46:58   1   1   18.603   50017.9849   57.0299   130.29   17.1147%
50016   2014-05-03 04:45:24   1   1   18.589   50016.9849   57.0299   130.289   17.1149%
50015   2014-05-03 04:45:18   1   1   18.486   50015.9849   57.031   130.289   17.115%
50014   2014-05-03 04:44:51   1   1   18.469   50014.9849   57.0318   130.288   17.115%
50013   2014-05-03 04:44:45   1   1   18.44   50013.9849   57.0329   130.288   17.115%
50012   2014-05-03 04:44:29   1   1   18.438   50012.9849   57.0338   130.288   17.1151%
50011   2014-05-03 04:44:02   1   1   18.477   50011.9849   57.0347   130.288   17.1152%
50010   2014-05-03 04:42:59   1   1   18.466   50010.9849   57.0351   130.287   17.1154%
50009   2014-05-03 04:42:57   1   1   18.458   50009.9849   57.0362   130.287   17.1154%
50008   2014-05-03 04:42:45   1   1   18.392   50008.9849   57.0372   130.287   17.1154%
50007   2014-05-03 04:41:45   1   1   18.388   50007.9849   57.0376   130.286   17.1156%
50006   2014-05-03 04:41:31   1   1   18.37   50006.9849   57.0386   130.286   17.1156%
50005   2014-05-03 04:41:27   2   2   18.382   50005.9849   57.0397   130.286   17.1156%
50004   2014-05-03 04:37:38   1   1   18.491   50004.9849   57.0382   130.283   17.1162%
50003   2014-05-03 04:32:23   6   37.11075746   18.502   50003.9849   57.0357   130.28   17.1171%
50002   2014-05-03 04:28:35   1   1   18.49   50002.9849   57.0356   130.277   17.1158%
50001   2014-05-03 04:28:26   1   1   18.473   50001.9849   57.0367   130.277   17.1158%
50000   2014-05-03 04:28:22   1   1   18.458   50000.9849   57.0378   130.277   17.1158%
49999   2014-05-03 04:28:14   1   1   18.368   49999.9849   57.0388   130.277   17.1158%
49998   2014-05-03 04:27:24   1   1   18.332   49998.9849   57.0394   130.276   17.116%
49997   2014-05-03 04:27:17   1   1   18.294   49997.9849   57.0404   130.276   17.116%
49996   2014-05-03 04:27:14   1   1   18.35   49996.9849   57.0415   130.276   17.116%
49995   2014-05-03 04:25:55   1   1   18.335   49995.9849   57.0418   130.275   17.1162%
49994   2014-05-03 04:25:49   1   1   18.332   49994.9849   57.0428   130.275   17.1163%
49993   2014-05-03 04:25:08   1   1   18.326   49993.9849   57.0435   130.275   17.1164%
49992   2014-05-03 04:24:38   1   1   18.335   49992.9849   57.0443   130.274   17.1165%
49991   2014-05-03 04:23:54   1   1   18.356   49991.9849   57.0449   130.274   17.1166%
49990   2014-05-03 04:22:56   1   1   18.357   49990.9849   57.0454   130.273   17.1168%
49989   2014-05-03 04:22:03   1   1   18.3   49989.9849   57.0459   130.272   17.1169%
49988   2014-05-03 04:21:50   1   1   18.322   49988.9849   57.0469   130.272   17.1169%
49987   2014-05-03 04:20:51   1   1   18.335   49987.9849   57.0474   130.272   17.1171%
49986   2014-05-03 04:20:07   1   1   18.362   49986.9849   57.048   130.271   17.1172%
49985   2014-05-03 04:17:56   1   1   18.321   49985.9849   57.0476   130.27   17.1176%
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May 02, 2014, 11:05:15 PM
We get increased but volume not going, price will down soon or later. Looks like someone is operating the price.  Tongue RPC really needs some novel plans.
legendary
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May 02, 2014, 08:17:44 PM
I suspect many miners, like myself, long ago after the first fork knew the difficulty changing every 48 blocks was open to abuse by those with huge hash power, like pools. Hence the miners may have mined something else and now the 2nd fork fixed this, the miners can come back knowing they have a fair chance.

Looking at block 49623 diff 77,54 then block 49624 diff 55.35 then block 49626 diff 16.01. It showed that the difficulty adjustment work rapidly as hash rate falls. Rather than being stuck at a high level for so long as it was before. So that's all good imo.

something is definitely wrong. I just watched 12 blocks go by in 60 seconds.

I contacted Tranz to get his professional opinion and he said the following:

Quote from: Tranz
I don't think it's an attack. The timestamps are pretty close. KGW uses 270 blocks(off top of my head) to get the average. So the time to adjust can take a bit. No matter what algo you use, when you triple or more the hash rate that quickly, there is not much that can can be done.

Ouch. Therein lies the problem as i've mentioned before. Using average is flawed. If the average 2 minutes per block then during higher hash rate coming in, the time it takes to solve a block would go up a bit. Block 49623 17:27:20 then block 49624 17:32:40 - just over 5 minutes to get the next block. While the diff did fall, it seemed that it didn't fall enough as pools would have left by then. Now if it took 5 minutes then i suppose in some way it's good. Thus the 5 minutes is above average and when this continues for a while, there are more blocks being solved above average. Average should move higher up but it doesn't as it if fixed at 2 minutes per block. Hence when the diff go low, the time in takes to get to the next block falls to 2 minutes, the pools will come back in and then mine like hell. Remember the previous blocks were above average hence there has to be a number of blocks mined below average in order to rebalance the average to 2 minutes per block.

This is the reason why i said before that the minimum has to be 2 minutes and no lower. If the difficulty is going down by 11% (i'm not sure), then it is an issue. Block 49626 19:27:14.....2 hours to get 2 blocks. Limiting the diff downwards by a fixed percentage (11% i think) is the cause of the problem.

However on balance it is a lot better than before.

Seems it is getting more steady as time goes on. Might just need a bit of time for the difficulty to get steady. There are some coins that have incorporated a block limiter to prevent instamining.  I'm not sure if that is the best thing to do. Maybe just give it a bit more time and see how it flushes out.
legendary
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May 02, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
I suspect many miners, like myself, long ago after the first fork knew the difficulty changing every 48 blocks was open to abuse by those with huge hash power, like pools. Hence the miners may have mined something else and now the 2nd fork fixed this, the miners can come back knowing they have a fair chance.

Looking at block 49623 diff 77,54 then block 49624 diff 55.35 then block 49626 diff 16.01. It showed that the difficulty adjustment work rapidly as hash rate falls. Rather than being stuck at a high level for so long as it was before. So that's all good imo.

something is definitely wrong. I just watched 12 blocks go by in 60 seconds.

I contacted Tranz to get his professional opinion and he said the following:

Quote from: Tranz
I don't think it's an attack. The timestamps are pretty close. KGW uses 270 blocks(off top of my head) to get the average. So the time to adjust can take a bit. No matter what algo you use, when you triple or more the hash rate that quickly, there is not much that can can be done.

Ouch. Therein lies the problem as i've mentioned before. Using average is flawed. If the average 2 minutes per block then during higher hash rate coming in, the time it takes to solve a block would go up a bit. Block 49623 17:27:20 then block 49624 17:32:40 - just over 5 minutes to get the next block. While the diff did fall, it seemed that it didn't fall enough as pools would have left by then. Now if it took 5 minutes then i suppose in some way it's good. Thus the 5 minutes is above average and when this continues for a while, there are more blocks being solved above average. Average should move higher up but it doesn't as it if fixed at 2 minutes per block. Hence when the diff go low, the time in takes to get to the next block falls to 2 minutes, the pools will come back in and then mine like hell. Remember the previous blocks were above average hence there has to be a number of blocks mined below average in order to rebalance the average to 2 minutes per block.

This is the reason why i said before that the minimum has to be 2 minutes and no lower. If the difficulty is going down by 11% (i'm not sure), then it is an issue. Block 49626 19:27:14.....2 hours to get 2 blocks. Limiting the diff downwards by a fixed percentage (11% i think) is the cause of the problem.

However on balance it is a lot better than before.
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May 02, 2014, 10:06:49 AM
Mulitpool hitting your blockchain?
I think that is what is happening.


I thought KGW was supposed to protect against this sort of thing. The hashrate is like a 10x increase and apparently that's more than it can handle(?). I thought KGW could handle up to an 80x increase. Apparently not.

Tranz said no matter what algorithm you use, if you get more than a 3x hashrate increase, you'll have problems.

Multipools strike again.


My personal advice to anyone reading this right now is do not buy RPC right now because I am guessing this mysterious 3 MH/s multipool will be dumping a lot of RPC.
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May 02, 2014, 09:59:05 AM
Hashrate is very high atm, I used to mine this at 37 difficulty when it was at its prime... right now its around 90 and keeps increasing

This is correct. It's currently levels of hashrate and difficulty never before reached. But it needs more looking into because of the somewhat fast block times. I need more eyes to dissect this with me, if anyone can help.


-update-

something is definitely wrong. I just watched 12 blocks go by in 60 seconds.

I contacted Tranz to get his professional opinion and he said the following:

Quote from: Tranz
I don't think it's an attack. The timestamps are pretty close. KGW uses 270 blocks(off top of my head) to get the average. So the time to adjust can take a bit. No matter what algo you use, when you triple or more the hash rate that quickly, there is not much that can can be done.

Mulitpool hitting your blockchain?
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May 02, 2014, 09:43:57 AM
Hashrate is very high atm, I used to mine this at 37 difficulty when it was at its prime... right now its around 90 and keeps increasing

This is correct. It's currently levels of hashrate and difficulty never before reached. But it needs more looking into because of the somewhat fast block times. I need more eyes to dissect this with me, if anyone can help.


-update-

something is definitely wrong. I just watched 12 blocks go by in 60 seconds.

I contacted Tranz to get his professional opinion and he said the following:

Quote from: Tranz
I don't think it's an attack. The timestamps are pretty close. KGW uses 270 blocks(off top of my head) to get the average. So the time to adjust can take a bit. No matter what algo you use, when you triple or more the hash rate that quickly, there is not much that can can be done.
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May 02, 2014, 09:42:50 AM
Hashrate is very high atm, I used to mine this at 37 difficulty when it was at its prime... right now its around 90 and keeps increasing
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May 02, 2014, 09:36:33 AM
ProfJski, I really apprecaite your post and you are the one who alerted me to the issues with RonPaulCoin in the beginning. It was partly in due to you that I decided to do another fork and fix this issue. Thank you very much for just being a good "RonPaulCoin citizen".

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Ironically though, something wonky is going on with the network right now. There are HUUUUGEEEE hashrate increases (to 3.7GH/s currently) and difficulty levels are going all over the place. I'm not sure what is going on yet. I'd like to just think this is good news but the blocks are getting mined quickly and then when KGW finally makes the difficulty hit 80+ to compensate, the network seems to come to a crawl for a few hours while the next block is solved. I'm guessing the several hour delay is when the massive hashrate whales are jumping off it, but this is my guess only.

I'm posting my observations as I notice them and I am continuing to look into this. Feel free to offer help or observations if you are good with this sort of thing.

3.7GH/s network hashrate is the most that RonPaulCoin has ever seen in its entire life so that is a good thing. The bad thing is it seems that somehow they are pumping blocks faster than 2 minutes on average.

The size of the "mining whale" just stepped up their game?  This happened the moment the value of RPC went up... I do not think that was coincidence.
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"Very little volume"? -- I see a few thousand coins transacted during three hours May 1st.   Since RPC is 1 coin per block, that's decent volume, 3-4 days worth of coins in a couple hours.  Not massive, but decent.

As far as ASICs go, I plan to obtain one, and use it to buy and hold.  A smaller ASIC, a few hundred bucks...I won't need return on my money immediately.

Whether ASICs bode well or poorly for the coin is based on the same concern individual miners have: to sell or hold.  It's just that fewer people (the ASIC owners) will get a lot more coins.  But only an idiot would mine, dump, and ditch if they thought the coin might double (again) in the next week or two.  They may sell earlier than a committed coin owner, but whether to dump is still a decision about whether the coin might go up vs. junk crypto that won't hold value for long.

As far as I can tell, things are looking very good right now after the fix.  Thanks, ColinIsTheMan, for "fixing the hole in my bag."  As a mine-and-hold supporter, my portfolio just doubled in two days.  That's a return I can live with  Grin

Onward to a link to precious metals! Right now, folks who want to mine-and-sell have only BTC as an outlet.  If there was another asset they could obtain, people would sell toward that (gold, silver, copper), and not just to BTC, which lowers RPC/BTC prices.  If the coin gains purchasing power for a tangible good, there will be fewer people dumping to BTC.  Since RPC-to-BTC-to-USD is usually how the exchange value is established to USD, give them a use for the coin, and you will further stabilize / increase value, since fewer RPC will be sold to BTC.

Best wishes and thanks,
Jski

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May 01, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
Why don't we change the mining algo of RPC like Diamond?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-dmd-diamond-30-scarce-valuable-secure-pos-30-masternodes-65-580725

It maybe the best way to save the coin.

I don't think that is warranted. I do not want to alter the basic properties of this coin because I want it to gain stability. It now has that with the latest update. I plan for that to be the last update.

What advantage does using a different mining algorithm provide (aside from the pure novelty of a new algorithm)?


What do you think what could keep a coin from dying? IMHO it's the people who support this.
What do you think in next few months the normal hobby miners like us will continue to mine this scrypt coin while one ASICs user could kill 1000 from us?
And you think the ASIC miners will mine this coin to keep it ?? They need turn coin back to cash for possible ROI.
I have mined RPC from the start and tried to support it, but now I'm out. Keep whatever you want for the coin and we will see.
Sorry if I sound harsh.

Regards,


RPC going crazy @ cryptsy

RPC up over a 1000% just today

91001 tot 950.000

and still gaining value!!!  Grin

been holding for months, will still hold  Cool

Just pure pump & dump from some whales. Nothing special.



Very little volume....
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RPC added to whattomine.com Enjoy!
Cool Thanks. Will add link to OP and website

Appreciate it, thank you.
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May 01, 2014, 02:17:13 PM
RPC added to whattomine.com Enjoy!
Cool Thanks. Will add link to OP and website
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RPC added to whattomine.com Enjoy!
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May 01, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
Have to agree that there is no point changing algorithm at this stage. Those who created x11 are just people with huge GPU mining rig and they know that ASIC would make GPU mining unprofitable.

One should wait and see how things pan out before making changes. If it ain't broke, leave it. The previous block difficulty was broken and was fixed. There's no evidences that scrypt algorithm is broken, just pure speculations.
Exactly, I agree completely. In fact, scrypt is proven to be workable and succesful and works great with no flaws. X11 and these other algorithms are newer and perhaps have holes that we don't yet know about. I mean, look at the original release of KGW that everyone copied. After it was tested for a little while, there was an exploit found in it. I'm a fan of sticking with what works.
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May 01, 2014, 12:05:15 PM
Did those who invested in RPC mistaken this coin for PRC prosper day?

Have to agree that there is no point changing algorithm at this stage. Those who created x11 are just people with huge GPU mining rig and they know that ASIC would make GPU mining unprofitable.

One should wait and see how things pan out before making changes. If it ain't broke, leave it. The previous block difficulty was broken and was fixed. There's no evidences that scrypt algorithm is broken, just pure speculations.
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May 01, 2014, 11:40:19 AM
Wow yeah RPC on cryptsy is exploding
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May 01, 2014, 10:55:08 AM
RPC going crazy @ cryptsy

RPC up over a 1000% just today

91001 tot 950.000

and still gaining value!!!  Grin

been holding for months, will still hold  Cool
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May 01, 2014, 10:48:18 AM
RPC going crazy @ cryptsy

RPC up over a 1000% just today

91001 tot 950.000

and still gaining value!!!  Grin
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May 01, 2014, 10:43:42 AM
RPC going crazy @ cryptsy
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