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Quote from: ralle14 on March 16, 2023, 11:42:56 PM

When it comes to betting i'd skip but my prediction would be 2-1 OG, the over 2.5 might be an okay bet but i'd prefer to go on Tundra -1.5 @1.85 against Team Nigma.

Got this one as well, its the best value that you can get for now before Nigma start their losing streak.

I think Nigma's plan for now would be to use ATF on their roster until they play on the region qualifier for TI then pretty sure Miracle might join the team later on that qualifier. Its just a no brainer to keep ATF on their team after playing so bad like that

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 16, 2023, 11:42:56 PM

When it comes to betting i'd skip but my prediction would be 2-1 OG, the over 2.5 might be an okay bet but i'd prefer to go on Tundra -1.5 @1.85 against Team Nigma.

Congratulations on your won with Tundra -1.5 for sweeping Nigma. I thought Nigma will have a chance to take game 2 but they started to crumble at the late game because their spectre is always being Kite by NP while ATF can’t give a better space for his team. I’m surprised with the sudden change role of Ammar and MC. This result to a terrible game because MC keeps dying and being kite on both games. He is not suited for pos 1 while Ammar is not doing good too on pos 3 despite he is using comfort hero.

Nigma draft too is so weak and highly reliable for their carry to farm full item in late game which they are always weak since their offlane can’t make a play like what 33 is doing. Nigma has chance with their line up on the last major. Wth did ATF doing on both games.

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In the first match of the day, we watched spirit vs liquid. Spirit defeated liquid 2-0. Spirit's young awper wonderful was the standout player of the team. We can say that he was the player who won the match for his team by getting 46 kills in two maps. Liquid played poorly as a team and lost as a result. I think there is something missing in the team. They need to prepare better.
In the second match of the day, we will watch the Rare atom - Navi match. NaVi will defeat his opponent even if it is difficult. His opponent is one of China's strong rivals, but this time navi has no chance of losing.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 17, 2023, 08:35:42 AM

OG is not the same anymore since their carry topson and ana is not on the team and also the complexity of their team does not exist anymore I guess they need to check first their team whats the wrong with it, imagine Team liquid right now just one player can change all the things happen in the game I guess if this might continue Liquid will manage again to be part of the back to back ti champs unless they can kick the tundra and TS right now.

Totally agree. The current OG is playing by the book that makes them easy to read and counter. Their rotation is so predictable that makes it useless and waste of time. They don’t have good vision on most of their that makes them always play on defensive position. This is not the real OG mindset. I think the OldG on division 2 might replaced them in Division 1 in the future if they didn’t step up their game.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 17, 2023, 08:35:42 AM

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It's obvious that they haven't really played much as a team for long. Yuragi is also in a pretty terrible shape given how bad he plays and how many times he needed help even though the situation could have been avoided. Give it a few more games and I'm pretty sure OG will figure something out. They're up against Ooredoo Thunders and I think they could win on this matchup, provided that they catch that synergy and start rolling the ball before the enemy starts doing their own thing. Pretty sure Chu can do his magic and win with the boys.

I’m wondering what kind of magic Chu can do to overcome their Division giant. Pretty sure they can have a game against a division 2 team but the problem was OG didn’t catch up anymore on the meta compared to other team like Liquid, Tundra and GG. OG was left behind without an impressive supports. Most of the strongest team in their division has a reliable supports which they can give space to their carry to farm their item without the need to respond.

Reliable supports is what lacking on OG. OG has a complete roster, it’s just other team has an impressive roster that’s why they looks like Division 2 team now that always being outplayed and outdraft in every match.

OG is not the same anymore since their carry topson and ana is not on the team and also the complexity of their team does not exist anymore I guess they need to check first their team whats the wrong with it, imagine Team liquid right now just one player can change all the things happen in the game I guess if this might continue Liquid will manage again to be part of the back to back ti champs unless they can kick the tundra and TS right now.

Ever since the last TI micke is always on fire. I guess I could say based on my point of view that it is the peak of his career since he's playing top level gameplays, though there're times that his teammates are always there for support, it is undeniable that their synergy in those games are totally different from what they usually do few years ago. Even insania significantly improve and can be considered one of the best captains right now in dota 2.

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Quote from: dbshck on March 17, 2023, 12:34:16 AM

Quote from: rafaloko on March 16, 2023, 03:39:37 PM

Hey guys.. thoughts in Forze vs Ence match?? I think Forze take this.. they are playing a good cs imo

I'd also go with Forze for this upper-bracket final match. It's hard to discount their achievements in this group so far, as they've beaten NaVi and Spirit in BO3s. Additionally, I think that Forze has better map stats compared to ENCE, which gives them an edge in this match-up.

It's normal to think like this, but we should not forget that NaVi had a hard time beating Astralis.This shows us that forze might not have been able to beat navi.I honestly think that team Ence will beat forze with their experience. Forze may be made up of younger and more talented players, but in tournaments like this, experience and cooler heads prevail.We've seen this time and time again, and it's usually experience that wins.Talent takes you to a certain point.At some point you get stuck and experience starts to speak.Experience trumps talent at times.My personal opinion, of course.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 17, 2023, 07:47:35 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on March 16, 2023, 06:47:23 PM

It's obvious that they haven't really played much as a team for long. Yuragi is also in a pretty terrible shape given how bad he plays and how many times he needed help even though the situation could have been avoided. Give it a few more games and I'm pretty sure OG will figure something out. They're up against Ooredoo Thunders and I think they could win on this matchup, provided that they catch that synergy and start rolling the ball before the enemy starts doing their own thing. Pretty sure Chu can do his magic and win with the boys.

I’m wondering what kind of magic Chu can do to overcome their Division giant. Pretty sure they can have a game against a division 2 team but the problem was OG didn’t catch up anymore on the meta compared to other team like Liquid, Tundra and GG. OG was left behind without an impressive supports. Most of the strongest team in their division has a reliable supports which they can give space to their carry to farm their item without the need to respond.

Reliable supports is what lacking on OG. OG has a complete roster, it’s just other team has an impressive roster that’s why they looks like Division 2 team now that always being outplayed and outdraft in every match.

OG is not the same anymore since their carry topson and ana is not on the team and also the complexity of their team does not exist anymore I guess they need to check first their team whats the wrong with it, imagine Team liquid right now just one player can change all the things happen in the game I guess if this might continue Liquid will manage again to be part of the back to back ti champs unless they can kick the tundra and TS right now.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 16, 2023, 06:47:23 PM

It's obvious that they haven't really played much as a team for long. Yuragi is also in a pretty terrible shape given how bad he plays and how many times he needed help even though the situation could have been avoided. Give it a few more games and I'm pretty sure OG will figure something out. They're up against Ooredoo Thunders and I think they could win on this matchup, provided that they catch that synergy and start rolling the ball before the enemy starts doing their own thing. Pretty sure Chu can do his magic and win with the boys.

I’m wondering what kind of magic Chu can do to overcome their Division giant. Pretty sure they can have a game against a division 2 team but the problem was OG didn’t catch up anymore on the meta compared to other team like Liquid, Tundra and GG. OG was left behind without an impressive supports. Most of the strongest team in their division has a reliable supports which they can give space to their carry to farm their item without the need to respond.

Reliable supports is what lacking on OG. OG has a complete roster, it’s just other team has an impressive roster that’s why they looks like Division 2 team now that always being outplayed and outdraft in every match.

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Quote from: rafaloko on March 16, 2023, 06:19:51 PM

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Hey guys.. thoughts in Forze vs Ence match?? I think Forze take this.. they are playing a good cs imo

I expect Ence to win. After Nertz joined the team, it is obvious that they have experienced a rise.When I look at the roster of the two teams now, the more experienced names are on the Ence side and I think they are better as a team.Forze beat NaVi because he had a little luck, otherwise I didn't expect him to come this far.I think Ence will win 2-1.Now their firepower has increased even more after the arrival of Nertz. It must be said that they are a good squad. Forze has a tough job.

Yeah.. Nertz is a beast tbh.. used to carry those shitypoint bots.. now with a decent team he can go far ahead. Hard to prebet this match, i think i will only live bet this.

Since Ence is a more experienced team in these tournaments, I might take this risk and bet on Ence. After Nertz arrived, there was a noticeable performance improvement. Forze is not such an experienced team. Nertz brought excitement to the team. He has a good aime and I think he will carry the ence team upwards. It is an important development for him that he chose ence to save himself. He will make good use of it. I haven't checked the odds but I want to bet on ence.

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Quote from: rafaloko on March 16, 2023, 03:39:37 PM

Hey guys.. thoughts in Forze vs Ence match?? I think Forze take this.. they are playing a good cs imo

I'd also go with Forze for this upper-bracket final match. It's hard to discount their achievements in this group so far, as they've beaten NaVi and Spirit in BO3s. Additionally, I think that Forze has better map stats compared to ENCE, which gives them an edge in this match-up.

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Quote from: l99l on March 16, 2023, 11:49:51 AM

What do you think of the OG - Ooredoo Thunders match guys?
OG seems likely to continue losing, after these matches it is clear that there is a problem.

My view is similar to what the odds are atm and would give a small edge to OG since they have the experience while Ooredoo Thunders have the surprise and momentum factor after their huge win against Gaimin Gladiators.

When it comes to betting i'd skip but my prediction would be 2-1 OG, the over 2.5 might be an okay bet but i'd prefer to go on Tundra -1.5 @1.85 against Team Nigma.

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Quote from: jakelyson on March 15, 2023, 05:34:24 PM

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I also saw one of Old G's matches earlier but I didn't stay until the end since they're going to win no matter what anyway.

For my bet of the day i've gone with a multi that's barely above 2.01 as I think the Liquid vs OG series might go the distance. Gaimin Gladiators should take down Ooredoo Thunders with ease since Monaspa had no problems taking them down 2-0 during the first day. Entity vs Team Nigma might be a close series when there are rumors that ATF could be moving to the offlane position but I don't think that'll be enough when Entity looked great during the Lima major.

There might be something wrong with the current roster of OG because they have not won a map yet. It is 1-0 right now between Liquid and OG but Liquid is already 6K ahead of OG on the second map. It looks like OG will be 0-2 in standing this early in WEU. Given they had face strong opponents (Tundra and Liquid), I never thought they could not take the matches to a distance.

Gaimin Gladiators lost to Ooredoo Thunders, 2-1. I was not able to watch the game so now I am intrigued with OOredoo because GG is not an easy opponent but they defeated them. GG easily defeated team Liquid which speaks a lot to ooredoo defeating GG.

With the match of OG versus Liquid this match already in favor with the team liquid because of the puck rotation and the Natures prophet presence. Once the puck already 6 they manage to roam and hunt every time they have ult and seek for the MK even the MK can't kill their support. For the minute of 20 minutes they manage to conquer the game already because of the MKs not capability to clash. During this time they get the Aegis asap and make the 2 rax

In the second game tusk and Morp combo can make the game snowball, I don't know why they keep using the Invoker hammer combo because of topsons pub game.

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Quote from: l99l on March 16, 2023, 11:49:51 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on March 15, 2023, 09:09:22 PM

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There might be something wrong with the current roster of OG because they have not won a map yet. It is 1-0 right now between Liquid and OG but Liquid is already 6K ahead of OG on the second map. It looks like OG will be 0-2 in standing this early in WEU. Given they had face strong opponents (Tundra and Liquid), I never thought they could not take the matches to a distance.

Gaimin Gladiators lost to Ooredoo Thunders, 2-1. I was not able to watch the game so now I am intrigued with OOredoo because GG is not an easy opponent but they defeated them. GG easily defeated team Liquid which speaks a lot to ooredoo defeating GG.

If OG goes 0-3 tomorrow things might get concerning but I hope they'll bounce back tomorrow for the final day of the week 1 since they'll be up against Ooredoo Thunders and I think it's one of their best chance to get their first win.

On the other series though, Ooredoo Thunders handing Gaimin Gladiators their first loss was surprising, I guess they just had a bad day which can happen to certain teams like how Tundra underperformed during the major.

OG is going through some very troublesome games. Team Liquid and Tundra Esports didn't even win a map in their match. I watched the Liquid match, especially in the game they picked Furion, Liquid was extremely finishing. Furion cast gold all over the map and they finished the game right away.
What do you think of the OG - Ooredoo Thunders match guys?
OG seems likely to continue losing, after these matches it is clear that there is a problem.

It's obvious that they haven't really played much as a team for long. Yuragi is also in a pretty terrible shape given how bad he plays and how many times he needed help even though the situation could have been avoided. Give it a few more games and I'm pretty sure OG will figure something out. They're up against Ooredoo Thunders and I think they could win on this matchup, provided that they catch that synergy and start rolling the ball before the enemy starts doing their own thing. Pretty sure Chu can do his magic and win with the boys.

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Quote from: l99l on March 16, 2023, 11:49:51 AM

What do you think of the OG - Ooredoo Thunders match guys?

OT won against the strong team of Gaimin Gladiators which is considered in this meta as a formidable team. Can't say that it was just luck because it happened in a series that needs two wins.
Well, if you're thinking of betting against OG then this game is worth to be for if you think OT will win against them.

Quote from: l99l on March 16, 2023, 11:49:51 AM

OG seems likely to continue losing, after these matches it is clear that there is a problem.

We're still at week 1 and there will be week 2 and week 3, so it means more games to the game and the last 1 for this week 1 is what we're talking about which is the Ooredoo Thunders.

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Quote from: execijutiere on March 16, 2023, 03:44:29 PM

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Hey guys.. thoughts in Forze vs Ence match?? I think Forze take this.. they are playing a good cs imo

I expect Ence to win. After Nertz joined the team, it is obvious that they have experienced a rise.When I look at the roster of the two teams now, the more experienced names are on the Ence side and I think they are better as a team.Forze beat NaVi because he had a little luck, otherwise I didn't expect him to come this far.I think Ence will win 2-1.Now their firepower has increased even more after the arrival of Nertz. It must be said that they are a good squad. Forze has a tough job.

Yeah.. Nertz is a beast tbh.. used to carry those shitypoint bots.. now with a decent team he can go far ahead. Hard to prebet this match, i think i will only live bet this.

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Quote from: rafaloko on March 16, 2023, 03:39:37 PM

Hey guys.. thoughts in Forze vs Ence match?? I think Forze take this.. they are playing a good cs imo

I expect Ence to win. After Nertz joined the team, it is obvious that they have experienced a rise.When I look at the roster of the two teams now, the more experienced names are on the Ence side and I think they are better as a team.Forze beat NaVi because he had a little luck, otherwise I didn't expect him to come this far.I think Ence will win 2-1.Now their firepower has increased even more after the arrival of Nertz. It must be said that they are a good squad. Forze has a tough job.

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Hey guys.. thoughts in Forze vs Ence match?? I think Forze take this.. they are playing a good cs imo

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Quote from: dbshck on March 15, 2023, 11:02:59 PM

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I was really surprised to see them losing to FORZE there.

What a match day indeed! It was crazy to see 3 out of 4 matches go to the underdogs. I mean, who would've thought Liquid would lose 2-0 to Rare Atom? I've never even heard of that team before, but I gotta give them props for taking down a strong team like Liquid. With that said, I'm really excited for the second day of matches. I'm definitely gonna bet on Rare Atom, since they impressed me so much in their last match against Liquid. And with the odds still against them (2.7), it's even more tempting. As for the NaVi vs Astralis match, I'm sticking with my favorite team and betting on NaVi. I hope they don't fall into the last-chance bracket Undecided

Quote from: execijutiere on March 15, 2023, 03:52:58 PM

I don't think NaVi is trolling. NaVi's substitutions were very wrong. Even though S1mple played well on all maps, it was not enough for the team to win. S1mple is limited in what he can do as well. After all, this is a team game, not an individual game. NaVi team needs a good igl player.this is not something that can happen with npl and electronic.the team already has high fire power but there is no one to manage the team.I don't know if S1mple igl's occasionally in the game, but even if he does, he is definitely not useful.

Yeah, I totally agree with you on this one. NaVi really needs a dedicated IGL to help them get back to their previous level. I'm not sure if it's still in the table, but I think bringing Boombl4 back would be a great move for the team.

It was a very crazy day, people are still under its influence. I watched some of the matches, but I may be a little late to write. To say something about the Forze-Navi match. S1mple tried to beat Forze alone but failed. Has anyone seen the Awm wall hits on the Overpass map, it's like Wall hack finished all their opponents. The team certainly can't keep up with the sharpness of S1mple. I'm waiting for them to go to another substitution in the near future.

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In the first match of the day, we watched spirit-forze. Forze seemed to be the more advantageous team because they beat a team like navi. The winner was the forze team. Forze won 16-8 with a nice ct performance on the mirage map of their choice. The second map was the anubis map chosen by spirit. Spirit, who played well in the ct part, won this map and remained to the last map. The last map was ancient and forze beat it 16-4 with a perfect game and became the team that took the first spot.
In the second match of the day, we watched the ence-rare atom fight. Rare atom cannot actually be ence's rival. So they are not a strong team. We also saw this during the match. Ence won 2-0 and became the team that took the other slot.

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 15, 2023, 09:09:22 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on March 15, 2023, 05:34:24 PM

There might be something wrong with the current roster of OG because they have not won a map yet. It is 1-0 right now between Liquid and OG but Liquid is already 6K ahead of OG on the second map. It looks like OG will be 0-2 in standing this early in WEU. Given they had face strong opponents (Tundra and Liquid), I never thought they could not take the matches to a distance.

Gaimin Gladiators lost to Ooredoo Thunders, 2-1. I was not able to watch the game so now I am intrigued with OOredoo because GG is not an easy opponent but they defeated them. GG easily defeated team Liquid which speaks a lot to ooredoo defeating GG.

If OG goes 0-3 tomorrow things might get concerning but I hope they'll bounce back tomorrow for the final day of the week 1 since they'll be up against Ooredoo Thunders and I think it's one of their best chance to get their first win.

On the other series though, Ooredoo Thunders handing Gaimin Gladiators their first loss was surprising, I guess they just had a bad day which can happen to certain teams like how Tundra underperformed during the major.

OG is going through some very troublesome games. Team Liquid and Tundra Esports didn't even win a map in their match. I watched the Liquid match, especially in the game they picked Furion, Liquid was extremely finishing. Furion cast gold all over the map and they finished the game right away.
What do you think of the OG - Ooredoo Thunders match guys?
OG seems likely to continue losing, after these matches it is clear that there is a problem.

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