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August 24, 2022, 05:28:14 PM
OG and Aster lead their respective groups with 7-1, and as you said, Secret seats at 6-2. They are secure with the upper bracket.
Both are secured. While there's only one match left for each team. I think we can conclude that the bottom 2 for each bracket will get to be eliminated whether they win or not their matches. I'm looking at the stats of the bottom 2 for both brackets and if I calculated their points correctly, they will be short of points whether they win or not the series. Or, some can still manage to get out of it unless they win 2 straight games. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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August 24, 2022, 03:00:04 PM
Single bets are boring and there is too much to properly share. We really need some share button on Sportsbet to make thing easier Smiley Those favorites that have already secured upper bracket could experiment even more so underdogs all the way for me.

We do have the share button on sportsbet isnt it but people will still need to click on the link so its just much better to screenshot the screen like this and show it off. Nice win btw, I havent win a single parlay yet on ESL One lol and Im trying my luck for the last 2-leg parlay tomorrow lol. If this ended up losing again then Im switching to a single bet for the rest of the tournament lol



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August 24, 2022, 02:59:07 PM
It was emotional for me to see two Turkish teams making it to the Minor. Eternal Fire isn't a big surprise because they already have a great roster to beat all of the opponents in the qualifier stage. However Sangal's success was way better than I expected. After seeing Entropiq against them I just thought that Sangal would leave their chance to the next qualifier. Entropiq are a way stronger team but Sangal played really bravely and this carried them to the Minor.

But I still think that the Minor can be very difficult for Sangal. Even seeing only Eternal Fire in the Major without big problems would be enough for me.

I'm still questioning the decision about benching xfl0ud. But things are going well for now. I hope imoRR stops taking meaningless risks completely in time. He did this so many times in the past and this was really hurting the team. I know that he likes this style in FPL but he should be very disciplined as for team matches. This is the only way of beating top tier teams in tournaments.
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August 24, 2022, 01:29:08 PM
Secret looking so good this major so I would not be surprised to see them playing the finals as they have  6-2 and they are already play-offs guaranteed. However, I do find Nigma playing a very fresh dota with strange picks as the new patch just hit up today and a lot of heroes got nerfed and also buffed but a lot of neutral items have been changed as well.

The new patch caught the teams off guard because they do not have time to test the heroes. They woke up with the patch they need to play in the tournament immediately. But seemingly, the strong teams are still able to adapt quickly and still dominate the games.

OG and Aster lead their respective groups with 7-1, and as you said, Secret seats at 6-2. They are secure with the upper bracket.

Aster again with a strong start. Hopefully, they shake off the jinx of starting strong and choking on the latter stage of a tournament.
New patch was perfect opportunity to place some bets on underdogs to take at least one map. Played that market a lot today and ended up in nice profits. I lost some tickets but majority of single bets passed as well as this multi I am sharing here:

Single bets are boring and there is too much to properly share. We really need some share button on Sportsbet to make thing easier Smiley Those favorites that have already secured upper bracket could experiment even more so underdogs all the way for me.
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August 24, 2022, 10:41:18 AM
Secret looking so good this major so I would not be surprised to see them playing the finals as they have  6-2 and they are already play-offs guaranteed. However, I do find Nigma playing a very fresh dota with strange picks as the new patch just hit up today and a lot of heroes got nerfed and also buffed but a lot of neutral items have been changed as well.

The new patch caught the teams off guard because they do not have time to test the heroes. They woke up with the patch they need to play in the tournament immediately. But seemingly, the strong teams are still able to adapt quickly and still dominate the games.

OG and Aster lead their respective groups with 7-1, and as you said, Secret seats at 6-2. They are secure with the upper bracket.

Aster again with a strong start. Hopefully, they shake off the jinx of starting strong and choking on the latter stage of a tournament.
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August 24, 2022, 09:31:15 AM
I'd like to start my words with congratulating Eternal Fire first.

Thankfully they managed to move ECSTATIC out of their way even though they lost the first map of BO3. Especially the match on Nuke was something else. They never let ECSTATIC to join the game psychologically and ended them. I think this was a good sign about the new roster. After adding MAJ3R and paz they needed some time to increase the chemistry. Of course there were familiar faces for them like XANTARES and woxic which helped them adapt quicker.

However the team still have some problems to fix before RMR. I remember the Space Soldiers times. Nearly all of those players are here again so this makes me excited about the future of this team. If they deal with these issues before the tournament then hopefully they can be more successful compared to their last Major adventure.
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August 24, 2022, 09:15:50 AM
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August 24, 2022, 08:10:55 AM
Secret looking so good this major so I would not be surprised to see them playing the finals as they have  6-2 and they are already play-offs guaranteed. However, I do find Nigma playing a very fresh dota with strange picks as the new patch just hit up today and a lot of heroes got nerfed and also buffed but a lot of neutral items have been changed as well.
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August 24, 2022, 07:40:39 AM
huh, i didn't know the LPL playoffs took a day off, oh well maybe i caught good odds on EDG, -1.5 down to @1.5 in some fiat bookies


while i'm in the LPL and Blast Premier waiting room, some pocket money on IEM RMR qualifiers


and speaking of BLAST Premier, 500casino have a new promo for Day 4, one of the ojectives looks pretty decent: "Get double winnings on all bets that support EG"
I reckon everyone will be going for the moneyline (EG ml @8 vs NIP), but i think i'll choose rounds handicap. EG +6.5 in their map pick @1.78, i believe EG can cover this handicap 👀
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August 24, 2022, 04:20:06 AM
Our Turkish representative eternal fire is playing an important match for rmr qualification. Our representative, who came here by eliminating his opponents in Round 32 and Round 16 one by one, is playing an important match for rmr with ECstatic. I honestly think that eternal fire will qualify for the rmr main qualifier by eliminating its opponent. The maps have been announced; Vertigo, dust2 and nuke. I think it was a very good choice. This way our advantage increased even more.

They are one map down, but are making a comeback in the second map.
Eternal fire is a solid team, I still remember cheering for Space Soldiers. I wish they could retain that brand name instead of Eternal fire.

los kogutos(polish pride) is showing a tough fight too. After their win against Astralis, they are definitely a serious contender now.

Happy to see Turks and Polskis making their ground.
Eternal fire prolonged the match on his chosen map when he had a chance to finish earlier. Fortunately, this extension did not affect the nuke map much. With a very fast and beautiful game on the nuke map, he won 16-3 and qualified for the rmr main tournament.
We saw an unexpected performance from Ios kogutos. But unfortunately it wasn't enough for them to eliminate astralis.
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August 24, 2022, 01:24:58 AM
Group A is kinda one sided and full of sweep matches.

You wanna know how one sided this group is?



This was the odds from Rollbit and I was about to take this bet because I thought it was 1.71 lol. I know that Alliance is pretty bad right now but honestly giving the odds for Aster -1.5 only @1.17 is a bit too much. No one in their sane mind would be willing to take this bet though, Aster need to win two maps for players to win 1.17 lol its just silly

This how bookmaker trick bettors on Dota2 by giving no choice to bettors to choose an easy decisive game with good odds. Alliance is in a very bad shape base on all there previous performance while Aster show a dominant game on majors. Bookmakers new that most of the bettors will not bet on Alliance no matter what the odds is because they didn’t even make on Majors.

I usually skip on this kind of match and preferred the to bet on close games to have a fair odds. Dota2 odds is pretty insane on matches that involves underdog.
I love situations like that, when they give such odds on favorites they create insane value on underdogs. I took Aliance to take one map @5.1, it dropped a little now and I still expect to lose that bet but anything can happen in one map. There could be some cheesy pick or outdraft and that could be enough.
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August 24, 2022, 12:50:38 AM
Group A is kinda one sided and full of sweep matches.

You wanna know how one sided this group is?



This was the odds from Rollbit and I was about to take this bet because I thought it was 1.71 lol. I know that Alliance is pretty bad right now but honestly giving the odds for Aster -1.5 only @1.17 is a bit too much. No one in their sane mind would be willing to take this bet though, Aster need to win two maps for players to win 1.17 lol its just silly

This how bookmaker trick bettors on Dota2 by giving no choice to bettors to choose an easy decisive game with good odds. Alliance is in a very bad shape base on all there previous performance while Aster show a dominant game on majors. Bookmakers new that most of the bettors will not bet on Alliance no matter what the odds is because they didn’t even make on Majors.

I usually skip on this kind of match and preferred the to bet on close games to have a fair odds. Dota2 odds is pretty insane on matches that involves underdog.
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August 24, 2022, 12:45:05 AM
Group A is kinda one sided and full of sweep matches.

You wanna know how one sided this group is?



This was the odds from Rollbit and I was about to take this bet because I thought it was 1.71 lol. I know that Alliance is pretty bad right now but honestly giving the odds for Aster -1.5 only @1.17 is a bit too much. No one in their sane mind would be willing to take this bet though, Aster need to win two maps for players to win 1.17 lol its just silly

I laughed hard with the odds you are showing. Cheesy Maybe 1.30 +/- something for a -1.5?

Or maybe it is what it is because Aster is showing very strong recently. A solid third place in Arlington Majors and at the moment it is also unbeaten although not against strong teams. Alliance meanwhile is like a dead team with so far no wins over tough teams. Another negative factor is Alliance is also playing with a sub.

OG, Aster and Entity are my favorites to win this tournament. But I would love a SEA team to win too.
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August 23, 2022, 05:04:19 PM
Our Turkish representative eternal fire is playing an important match for rmr qualification. Our representative, who came here by eliminating his opponents in Round 32 and Round 16 one by one, is playing an important match for rmr with ECstatic. I honestly think that eternal fire will qualify for the rmr main qualifier by eliminating its opponent. The maps have been announced; Vertigo, dust2 and nuke. I think it was a very good choice. This way our advantage increased even more.

They are one map down, but are making a comeback in the second map.
Eternal fire is a solid team, I still remember cheering for Space Soldiers. I wish they could retain that brand name instead of Eternal fire.

los kogutos(polish pride) is showing a tough fight too. After their win against Astralis, they are definitely a serious contender now.

Happy to see Turks and Polskis making their ground.
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August 23, 2022, 02:37:54 PM
Group A is kinda one sided and full of sweep matches.

You wanna know how one sided this group is?



This was the odds from Rollbit and I was about to take this bet because I thought it was 1.71 lol. I know that Alliance is pretty bad right now but honestly giving the odds for Aster -1.5 only @1.17 is a bit too much. No one in their sane mind would be willing to take this bet though, Aster need to win two maps for players to win 1.17 lol its just silly
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August 23, 2022, 01:53:42 PM
Our Turkish representative eternal fire is playing an important match for rmr qualification. Our representative, who came here by eliminating his opponents in Round 32 and Round 16 one by one, is playing an important match for rmr with ECstatic. I honestly think that eternal fire will qualify for the rmr main qualifier by eliminating its opponent. The maps have been announced; Vertigo, dust2 and nuke. I think it was a very good choice. This way our advantage increased even more.
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August 23, 2022, 12:03:32 PM
Btw, as this ESL starts, have you seen the first outcomes of it on the bracket A? I just find it amazing and funny.



Group A is kinda one sided and full of sweep matches. Aster, Entity, and Secret are establishing their dominance over their group. It is exciting to see which of these three will drop their first game tomorrow.

Group B is more balance with having OG as the only team getting a sweep.
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August 23, 2022, 11:46:04 AM
I've seen this with other teams before.

So, it's an advantage for them being qualified to TI and also being part of this ESL. They can reinvent many strategies that they want and try as many heroes as they can.

But when it comes to the heroes like they're hiding for TI, I don't think that they'll show it in here. We've seen it before with good teams like OG, Team Secret.

Anyway, we'll see if they're going to act like that.
Comparing up drafts made on majors or other tournaments then we could really presume out that they are hiding some strategic plans which is only good to show on the international.

For those teams who do have that versatile drafts and hero pools then i dont see that they are really hiding something but rather making out direct adjustments basing on other teams
draft and thats what make them good and more better compared to other teams.
Learning at this phase is easy for those teams that we think are not versatile and don't have a large hero pool. They can learn it on the process and in actual games.



Btw, as this ESL starts, have you seen the first outcomes of it on the bracket A? I just find it amazing and funny.

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August 22, 2022, 06:48:27 PM
It's hard to have a pick on who's going to be the champ on this tournament but I think, those teams that are already qualified on TI would like to use some experiments on this tournament for them to have like a practice game preparing for the bigger event.

Yeah, they are not going thru the qualifiers anymore, so this is their chance to try some new combination to discover a new meta. I do not see any surprises here so I guess the top teams will win this tournament.
I've seen this with other teams before.

So, it's an advantage for them being qualified to TI and also being part of this ESL. They can reinvent many strategies that they want and try as many heroes as they can.

But when it comes to the heroes like they're hiding for TI, I don't think that they'll show it in here. We've seen it before with good teams like OG, Team Secret.

Anyway, we'll see if they're going to act like that.
Comparing up drafts made on majors or other tournaments then we could really presume out that they are hiding some strategic plans which is only good to show on the international.

For those teams who do have that versatile drafts and hero pools then i dont see that they are really hiding something but rather making out direct adjustments basing on other teams
draft and thats what make them good and more better compared to other teams.
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August 22, 2022, 06:06:50 PM
It's hard to have a pick on who's going to be the champ on this tournament but I think, those teams that are already qualified on TI would like to use some experiments on this tournament for them to have like a practice game preparing for the bigger event.

Yeah, they are not going thru the qualifiers anymore, so this is their chance to try some new combination to discover a new meta. I do not see any surprises here so I guess the top teams will win this tournament.
I've seen this with other teams before.

So, it's an advantage for them being qualified to TI and also being part of this ESL. They can reinvent many strategies that they want and try as many heroes as they can.

But when it comes to the heroes like they're hiding for TI, I don't think that they'll show it in here. We've seen it before with good teams like OG, Team Secret.

Anyway, we'll see if they're going to act like that.
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