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Quote from: boltz on December 04, 2023, 09:25:45 AM

Meanwhile , the new Tundra line-up have just been revealed a few minutes ago : Yuma , Topson , Miero , 9Class , Xakoda. Now , personally I didn't hear until now about 9Class or Xakoda ...and that's why I don't have full faith in this new Tundra team. I also think it's because of Topson the team left and decided to part ways...

What happened to previous roster of Team Tundra? They seems pretty solid and I’m not expecting to reshuffle their roster completely while they have a good result on many major tournaments.

I remember watching Xakoda many times on EEU region. I do some background check and he is a former mate of Yuma when they are on lower division team. Just like BZM and ATF being discovered by OG, I guess they have potential to excel too.

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Quote from: sompitonov on December 02, 2023, 12:57:31 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on December 02, 2023, 05:50:47 AM

I can't wait for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, despite that there have been other side tournaments that I can watch. I have never watched any of them because most of these tournaments are tier 2 tournaments. Although there are teams that are good to scout from that tier and they can be one of the strong teams in the near future.

I have seen that there's also the Shanghai Masters, I thought that there's a lot of teams participating on this tournament but upon looking at the details I guess that this is the first time to see a Chinese tournament and named 'masters' for this tournament only has got 4 participating teams.

This tournament is going to start in less than 24 hours from now on and I don't understand why there's a tournament like this and named as if it's a major tournament but only few teams that are invited on this one. IG is part of it and I think that they're going to be the ones who's gonna win on this tournament if they become serious and they are going to have the debut of their new roster.

In general, I prefer to play with friends than watch. TI have priority for me, I watch other tournaments extremely rarely, but ESL Kuala Lumpur I will definitely watch a couple of games, but I will choose only the most interesting ones.

Go and watch it with your friends, it's gonna be in a week so that's a thrilling experience and entertainment again from the best teams in the region that have qualified. Well, we're the same that when I think some matches aren't interesting for me, I wouldn't even think twice to watch it and just leave it there.

There are other teams that are interesting to watch and we've got the same terms and also we can't watch all of them at the same time because most of the matches during the early stage are being played on at the same time.

Quote from: sompitonov on December 02, 2023, 12:57:31 PM

And I won’t watch Shanghai Masters, all I can do is wish you a pleasant viewing

Anyway, Shanghai Masters is done and the champion is Invictus Gaming just like what I've said.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 04, 2023, 08:32:23 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on December 03, 2023, 04:51:10 PM

It's a rumor prior to the ESL One Kuala Lumpur because they are the South American team that has been qualified and they want to replace the team name for being the sponsor of it.

Is changing the name necessary and important to do because from several rumors circulating there is no authentic clarity regarding changing the name of the South American team.
Moreover, they have been confirmed to have passed and are just waiting for the time to take part in the competition which will start on December 11.
This is rumor that has made some people wonder about the reason for this change.
But what is written is the name BOOM Esports South America.

It's about the sponsorship and it's allowed by the organizers as long as the original roster that has taken the slot are going to play. It's just the name of the sponsor that's going to be replaced and I've seen that happened many times in respected tournaments.

As far as I can see, rumors are still remaining to rumors and there's no movement at all but let's see before next week if there are changes.

Quote from: Hirose UK on December 04, 2023, 08:32:23 AM

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But they need to replace one player and that's Lumiere and they want to let Pakasz in to the roster. Well, it seems that the page on the roster haven't changed any single thing.

And that completely remains as a rumor because of that.

Isn't Lumiere 23 year old young man from Peru who is quite good player and he always does good job to bring Wawitas Sagazes every victory and success in qualifying for get away ESL One Kuala Lumpur.
If there is no change then that is good thing, but if change does occur it will not provide maximum results.

Based on the info, yes you're right that's him. There are talented players in the South America but because most of us are not from there, we don't notice the good ones until they step on the international tournaments.

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Funny how Virtus Pro went from being favorites at Pinnacle Cup to be eliminated by Team Tickles just 1 day after they mocked them ... Grin

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Meanwhile , the new Tundra line-up have just been revealed a few minutes ago : Yuma , Topson , Miero , 9Class , Xakoda. Now , personally I didn't hear until now about 9Class or Xakoda ...and that's why I don't have full faith in this new Tundra team. I also think it's because of Topson the team left and decided to part ways...

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Quote from: sunsilk on December 03, 2023, 04:51:10 PM

It's a rumor prior to the ESL One Kuala Lumpur because they are the South American team that has been qualified and they want to replace the team name for being the sponsor of it.

Is changing the name necessary and important to do because from several rumors circulating there is no authentic clarity regarding changing the name of the South American team.
Moreover, they have been confirmed to have passed and are just waiting for the time to take part in the competition which will start on December 11.
This is rumor that has made some people wonder about the reason for this change.
But what is written is the name BOOM Esports South America.

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But they need to replace one player and that's Lumiere and they want to let Pakasz in to the roster. Well, it seems that the page on the roster haven't changed any single thing.

And that completely remains as a rumor because of that.

Isn't Lumiere 23 year old young man from Peru who is quite good player and he always does good job to bring Wawitas Sagazes every victory and success in qualifying for get away ESL One Kuala Lumpur.
If there is no change then that is good thing, but if change does occur it will not provide maximum results.

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Malaysia being the host is good to see, that never happens in CS and we need more variety imo.

CS2 fully more erratic results then any prior version is something one major commentator just came out and said the obvious its a game thats going to be all over the place until next Spring imo. From my own play and bugs still existing in the game that alter pro plays its too much variance to be sure of who will win or find a path in each game each map to their advantage. All the pro players are extremely close to begin with, upset the balance and anyone can win in theory.
However saying that I'll go with Attax to win vs Entropiq on Monday, its the older team by far. Entropiq are formed in July with most pro players taking a break over summer for some time, add in a new game, new feel and dynamics I think the teamplay and experience lends a large enough advantage to Attax to come through with a win.

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Quote from: sompitonov on December 02, 2023, 12:57:31 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on December 02, 2023, 06:12:52 AM

I'm still expecting a lot from them since the roster is still promising and composed of good players.

Did you guys heard or read the rumors about Wawitas Sagazes going to be sign under Boom Esports?

No, I haven’t heard any news about this yet, I still prefer to find out everything after the fact and not worry about rumors.

It's a rumor prior to the ESL One Kuala Lumpur because they are the South American team that has been qualified and they want to replace the team name for being the sponsor of it.

But they need to replace one player and that's Lumiere and they want to let Pakasz in to the roster. Well, it seems that the page on the roster haven't changed any single thing.

And that completely remains as a rumor because of that.

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Quote from: passwordnow on December 02, 2023, 05:50:47 AM

I can't wait for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, despite that there have been other side tournaments that I can watch. I have never watched any of them because most of these tournaments are tier 2 tournaments. Although there are teams that are good to scout from that tier and they can be one of the strong teams in the near future.

I have seen that there's also the Shanghai Masters, I thought that there's a lot of teams participating on this tournament but upon looking at the details I guess that this is the first time to see a Chinese tournament and named 'masters' for this tournament only has got 4 participating teams.

This tournament is going to start in less than 24 hours from now on and I don't understand why there's a tournament like this and named as if it's a major tournament but only few teams that are invited on this one. IG is part of it and I think that they're going to be the ones who's gonna win on this tournament if they become serious and they are going to have the debut of their new roster.

In general, I prefer to play with friends than watch. TI have priority for me, I watch other tournaments extremely rarely, but ESL Kuala Lumpur I will definitely watch a couple of games, but I will choose only the most interesting ones. And I won’t watch Shanghai Masters, all I can do is wish you a pleasant viewing

Quote from: sunsilk on December 02, 2023, 06:12:52 AM

I'm still expecting a lot from them since the roster is still promising and composed of good players.

Did you guys heard or read the rumors about Wawitas Sagazes going to be sign under Boom Esports?

No, I haven’t heard any news about this yet, I still prefer to find out everything after the fact and not worry about rumors.

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Quote from: sompitonov on December 01, 2023, 10:23:49 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2023, 08:50:44 AM

~snip~

We can see that Azure Ray are already present in group A, this means that the management didn't care about Korb3n's words and thereby showed who is in charge here. I even admit that it was done to spite him))

Yeah, it is visible that Azure Ray is on the Group A already and they received no warning about being disqualified due to having 3 replacement of their players whether they are stand-ins or not.

And if Korb3n is going to push this disqualification, he may have been heard but it's still up to ESL's decision.

Quote from: sompitonov on December 01, 2023, 10:23:49 AM

I will watch their matches with great curiosity and interest, especially the matches against Gladiators, BetBoom that I am looking forward to the most. I also think that they will still make it to the playoffs, and I won’t guess further, we’ll take it step by step.

I'm still expecting a lot from them since the roster is still promising and composed of good players.

Did you guys heard or read the rumors about Wawitas Sagazes going to be sign under Boom Esports?

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I can't wait for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, despite that there have been other side tournaments that I can watch. I have never watched any of them because most of these tournaments are tier 2 tournaments. Although there are teams that are good to scout from that tier and they can be one of the strong teams in the near future.

I have seen that there's also the Shanghai Masters, I thought that there's a lot of teams participating on this tournament but upon looking at the details I guess that this is the first time to see a Chinese tournament and named 'masters' for this tournament only has got 4 participating teams.

This tournament is going to start in less than 24 hours from now on and I don't understand why there's a tournament like this and named as if it's a major tournament but only few teams that are invited on this one. IG is part of it and I think that they're going to be the ones who's gonna win on this tournament if they become serious and they are going to have the debut of their new roster.

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Less than two weeks from now, we're about to see the actions again with great teams on ESL Kuala Lumpur. And AFAIK, ESL have already released their schedules for their other events next year.

Anyway going with the ESL KL. --> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ESL_One/Kuala_Lumpur/2023

These are the teams that are going to play there for someone's reference.

And currently, there's the Pinnacle's 25th year anniversary tournament and it is now on the playoffs.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Pinnacle_25_Year_Anniversary_Show

Also, congratulations to Dendi's team - B8 for winning the EPL Season 14. Yes, prize isn't that much for $5k for the grand prize winner but this title is their first title as a team.

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Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2023, 08:50:44 AM

Quote from: sompitonov on November 28, 2023, 08:39:12 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2023, 06:30:35 AM

~snip~

This is the rapid information appeared very quickly that I did not expect. Apparently this was planned for a long time in Azure Ray because they were completely ready for this. At the moment they have not been removed from the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023 and something tells me that with a high degree of probability they will play on it.

I wasn't also expecting that the Azure Ray's roster will be that complete. I think in terms of these roster changes, they're all ready with the replacements before they even announce the player's departure.

And for their ESL participation, they'll play for it and if that's fine for the management with 3 replaced players as final roster, then it will do.

Quote from: sompitonov on November 28, 2023, 08:39:12 AM

I would be very curious to see how they will show their game there, but on the other hand, their participation is quite controversial, as Korb3n said. I'll laugh if they win it, LOL. What will he say in this case?)

We will see, he's influential though but it's still up to the ESL's management decision.

We can see that Azure Ray are already present in group A, this means that the management didn't care about Korb3n's words and thereby showed who is in charge here. I even admit that it was done to spite him))

I will watch their matches with great curiosity and interest, especially the matches against Gladiators, BetBoom that I am looking forward to the most. I also think that they will still make it to the playoffs, and I won’t guess further, we’ll take it step by step.

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Quote from: execijutiere on November 25, 2023, 12:53:28 PM

Eternal Fire seems to have adapted to CS2, though not fully. With the performances in the recent tournaments, we can say that the team is getting used to the new game or will be fully acclimatized in the near future. The fact that Xantares' performance hasn't changed is important for the team's performance, and the fact that Wicadia, the young star of the team, is improving day by day is another positive factor for the team. At the moment they are fighting well as a team, but the fact that woxic is far from his old performance makes the team awp diff.

Totally agree with what you said about Eternal Fire. They have been quite impressive lately. First a record of finishing 2nd in the PARI Please tournament and right after that another same finish in ESL Challenger Jönköping.

They could have even defeated Monte in the finale too but that was such a difficult matchup for them. They still did good work on Vertigo and Anubis though.

Monte are one of the powerful teams lately. They have made good progress in the rankings. But still these achievements was helpful for Eternal Fire to reach 11th place in HLTV rankings.

woxic is on fire indeed. I watched some of his performances in this ESL Challenger tournament and got really excited.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 29, 2023, 03:53:39 AM

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I just hope that many Japanese will also get into Dota 2. I've got a friend that's base there but just a casual dota 2 player and in no way gonna reach the pro scene. But what I am saying that there are players there but not that much wide of range.

And for this team, if Sony is one of their sponsors. I guess that many pro players would like to even touch Japan team or any mena team. These regions seems to be financially well if it's about salaries and stuff.

But of course, the competition for now is in WEU, EEU and CN.

Japan is rich itself and is the 3rd biggest economy in the world so a Japanese team participating in big DOTA 2 events can somehow promote the game. I'm curious about which region are they participating in. Maybe in the SEA? Cheesy

I find it awkward if they belong in the Chinese region since both are not on good terms.

Likely that they're going to be in the SEA. China's region is for themselves alone but everyone is free to join there if they feel that they'd go there. But IMHO, if they're a starting them, I'd avoid the Chinese region, it's a strong region for a new team.

They still lack of experience and even if they've got high mmrs and they are good individually. Experience beats those numbers for real.

Well, I'm just going to take a look at this team and we will see them with the APAC- Predator league 2024.

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Is anyone of you have an idea on how the new team from Japan, Reject May plays? I have seen them in some posts and I have no idea about this team for Dota 2 that is based in Japan.

It is the first time hearing this team name from the Japan. And the players that they have, the roster itself are unknown names and never heard of them.

Anyone who is familiar with them?

I also heard about this team a few days ago. They're all new to me as well. But Japan is pretty sure a country with a lot of gamers including DOTA 2. In the past, I remember some Japanese teams participated in lesser events. Maybe their teams are not just good enough to make it into Division 1. I heard Sony is one of its main sponsors so it should be good financially. But they have to prove it and make it into the bigger competitions otherwise Reject will just withdraw from the DOTA 2 scene just like the other big e-sports teams in the past who failed to win significant matches.

I just hope that many Japanese will also get into Dota 2. I've got a friend that's base there but just a casual dota 2 player and in no way gonna reach the pro scene. But what I am saying that there are players there but not that much wide of range.

And for this team, if Sony is one of their sponsors. I guess that many pro players would like to even touch Japan team or any mena team. These regions seems to be financially well if it's about salaries and stuff.

But of course, the competition for now is in WEU, EEU and CN.

Japan is rich itself and is the 3rd biggest economy in the world so a Japanese team participating in big DOTA 2 events can somehow promote the game. I'm curious about which region are they participating in. Maybe in the SEA? Cheesy

I find it awkward if they belong in the Chinese region since both are not on good terms.

Meanwhile, there are rumors circulating online that Riyadh Masters next season could be worth $45 million. That would make it the biggest prize pool not just in DOTA 2 but in the whole e-sport history. Next year is also the targeted Esports World Cup by Saudi Arabia as part of its plan to become the world's esports hub.

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Quote from: sompitonov on November 28, 2023, 08:39:12 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2023, 06:30:35 AM

~snip~

This is the rapid information appeared very quickly that I did not expect. Apparently this was planned for a long time in Azure Ray because they were completely ready for this. At the moment they have not been removed from the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023 and something tells me that with a high degree of probability they will play on it.

I wasn't also expecting that the Azure Ray's roster will be that complete. I think in terms of these roster changes, they're all ready with the replacements before they even announce the player's departure.

And for their ESL participation, they'll play for it and if that's fine for the management with 3 replaced players as final roster, then it will do.

Quote from: sompitonov on November 28, 2023, 08:39:12 AM

I would be very curious to see how they will show their game there, but on the other hand, their participation is quite controversial, as Korb3n said. I'll laugh if they win it, LOL. What will he say in this case?)

We will see, he's influential though but it's still up to the ESL's management decision.

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Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2023, 06:30:35 AM

Quote from: sompitonov on November 28, 2023, 05:30:24 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2023, 04:14:34 AM

Guys, have you heard the news about the Azure Ray? Three of its members have already left the team. Somnus, fy and chalice. These three were once have built the strong LGD line up and I think that with the rumors that ame going back to the pro scene is related to this.

For those that don't know what I am saying, this is for Dota 2 folks.

Who else is believing here that we're going to see the reunion of Somnus, fy, chalice and Ame? I think that they should also include xnova for the new team that they're building but with the rumors, it was said to be xinq.

Yes, we heard, it was interesting to watch this reunion. They're clearly up to something) It's strange that they did this when there was not much time left for the start of the tournament.

Now there are 2 players left in Azure Ray, finding 3 more could be a big problem.

Among other things, Korb3n said that he was waiting for the official announcement from ESL about the disqualification of Azure Ray because 3 substitutions are not allowed by the rules. It is unknown how the ESL leadership will react to this, but I think that Korb3n is right and it will happen as he said.

I guess that makes sense if Azure Ray is part of the invited teams and they're going to play with 2 original players + stand-ins. And as for the rumor that I have heard.

It is not XinQ that's going to be with the 3 players that left AR but it is him that's going to be part of the new roster of the Azure Ray.

Check their new line up folks.

Quote from: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Azure_Ray

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This is the rapid information appeared very quickly that I did not expect. Apparently this was planned for a long time in Azure Ray because they were completely ready for this. At the moment they have not been removed from the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023 and something tells me that with a high degree of probability they will play on it.

I would be very curious to see how they will show their game there, but on the other hand, their participation is quite controversial, as Korb3n said. I'll laugh if they win it, LOL. What will he say in this case?)

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Quote from: sompitonov on November 28, 2023, 05:30:24 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2023, 04:14:34 AM

Guys, have you heard the news about the Azure Ray? Three of its members have already left the team. Somnus, fy and chalice. These three were once have built the strong LGD line up and I think that with the rumors that ame going back to the pro scene is related to this.

For those that don't know what I am saying, this is for Dota 2 folks.

Who else is believing here that we're going to see the reunion of Somnus, fy, chalice and Ame? I think that they should also include xnova for the new team that they're building but with the rumors, it was said to be xinq.

Yes, we heard, it was interesting to watch this reunion. They're clearly up to something) It's strange that they did this when there was not much time left for the start of the tournament.

Now there are 2 players left in Azure Ray, finding 3 more could be a big problem.

Among other things, Korb3n said that he was waiting for the official announcement from ESL about the disqualification of Azure Ray because 3 substitutions are not allowed by the rules. It is unknown how the ESL leadership will react to this, but I think that Korb3n is right and it will happen as he said.

I guess that makes sense if Azure Ray is part of the invited teams and they're going to play with 2 original players + stand-ins. And as for the rumor that I have heard.

It is not XinQ that's going to be with the 3 players that left AR but it is him that's going to be part of the new roster of the Azure Ray.

Check their new line up folks.

Quote from: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Azure_Ray

Active Squad
Lou
Xm
Xxs
XinQ
天命

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Quote from: sunsilk on November 28, 2023, 04:14:34 AM

Guys, have you heard the news about the Azure Ray? Three of its members have already left the team. Somnus, fy and chalice. These three were once have built the strong LGD line up and I think that with the rumors that ame going back to the pro scene is related to this.

For those that don't know what I am saying, this is for Dota 2 folks.

Who else is believing here that we're going to see the reunion of Somnus, fy, chalice and Ame? I think that they should also include xnova for the new team that they're building but with the rumors, it was said to be xinq.

Yes, we heard, it was interesting to watch this reunion. They're clearly up to something) It's strange that they did this when there was not much time left for the start of the tournament.

Now there are 2 players left in Azure Ray, finding 3 more could be a big problem.

Among other things, Korb3n said that he was waiting for the official announcement from ESL about the disqualification of Azure Ray because 3 substitutions are not allowed by the rules. It is unknown how the ESL leadership will react to this, but I think that Korb3n is right and it will happen as he said.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 27, 2023, 05:28:08 AM

Quote from: boyptc on November 26, 2023, 05:22:44 AM

Is anyone of you have an idea on how the new team from Japan, Reject May plays? I have seen them in some posts and I have no idea about this team for Dota 2 that is based in Japan.

It is the first time hearing this team name from the Japan. And the players that they have, the roster itself are unknown names and never heard of them.

Anyone who is familiar with them?

I also heard about this team a few days ago. They're all new to me as well. But Japan is pretty sure a country with a lot of gamers including DOTA 2. In the past, I remember some Japanese teams participated in lesser events. Maybe their teams are not just good enough to make it into Division 1. I heard Sony is one of its main sponsors so it should be good financially. But they have to prove it and make it into the bigger competitions otherwise Reject will just withdraw from the DOTA 2 scene just like the other big e-sports teams in the past who failed to win significant matches.

I just hope that many Japanese will also get into Dota 2. I've got a friend that's base there but just a casual dota 2 player and in no way gonna reach the pro scene. But what I am saying that there are players there but not that much wide of range.

And for this team, if Sony is one of their sponsors. I guess that many pro players would like to even touch Japan team or any mena team. These regions seems to be financially well if it's about salaries and stuff.

But of course, the competition for now is in WEU, EEU and CN.

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It's too early to assume things and I think it is going to be another wild ride for them for these upcoming tournaments.

I don't know but I feel like it's going to be good for them but then again, more updates will come in the next year and those might make them create new strategies or maybe even worse, they might be eliminated as they've been eliminated in 2022 and like how Tundra was eliminated early in the 2023 tournament. Hopefully as solid and no changes is foreseeable for Team Spirit, I hope that they're going to make another appearance in the International 2024 and hopefully snag the Aegis again but then as you've said, there's a lot of things that can happen.

Yup, I'm wishing for that as well and who knows if they'll make a threepeat.

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