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Quote from: passwordnow on November 12, 2023, 03:13:08 PM

I thought that he's just a cool and quiet guy. But I understand if he's got heated with the conversation because all of them put passion to the game and that's a normal thing for a team. I have found also in some controversies in the past teams that there were certain players that are also like that.

They can't stop themselves from having that heated argument with their teammates and disagreements after disagreements because they can't help to just be quiet and play the game. But the part of those teams that have cool commands and chat conversations are likely what to be admired of.

We know like players such as Ceb that have been in that cool manner even when the entire team was under pressure. I just wish best of luck to Team Liquid, technically they still have the whole roster just like the past 2 TIs but only replaced by one players going with retirement first with Matumbaman and now with zai.

It’s just that some players are dissatisfied with the actions of their teammates and they begin the process of destroying the atmosphere in the team in exchange for rational and calm communication. I have been seen this when I playing Dota 2 with my friends for many years. There are those who are constantly dissatisfied with everything, and there are those who, under no circumstances, will say anything bad, because we first of all entered the game to have fun. For professional teams, this is the job, it is certainly different, but aggressive statements are present in both cases.

By the way, Ceb said for the last time that he was returning to Dota 2. I like watching this guy, especially during OG. All these videos of him setting up the team are just great. I only wish him victories.

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Quote from: sompitonov on November 12, 2023, 03:55:52 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on November 11, 2023, 04:43:59 AM

I don't have an idea of how it goes in the actuality with their own conversations and how they're dealing with each other. But prior to their TI title, they're actually a good team and they've got all the best mentality and that's how we a team get the TI title. They're just like a chill team and they're all good with their respective heroes and roles.

And we have to wait for further announcements on how it is going to be with the team and who's going to replace the entire roster because I guess that Topson will also be out of the team or we will get some surprising news from them. Besides that, it's still one of the best teams but having no longer the original team that has taken and lifted the aegis once, this makes them a complete different team these days.

It's actually quite easy to find different videos of the team communicating before or after the game. There you can see the mood of the players, communication, those who behave hot-tempered and undermine the atmosphere in the team. This was mainly done by 33. Today I read his interview in which 33 said that a representative from Liu contacted him several months ago and told him that zai would end his career after the TI. Before TI12, he had no intention of leaving Tundra, but after many misunderstandings and problems in the team, he finally decided to take this step.

Now it’s interesting to see how he will feel in the new team and whether there will be even bigger problems there. In the end, this is the winner of TI11 and you need to treat him with respect)

I thought that he's just a cool and quiet guy. But I understand if he's got heated with the conversation because all of them put passion to the game and that's a normal thing for a team. I have found also in some controversies in the past teams that there were certain players that are also like that.

They can't stop themselves from having that heated argument with their teammates and disagreements after disagreements because they can't help to just be quiet and play the game. But the part of those teams that have cool commands and chat conversations are likely what to be admired of.

We know like players such as Ceb that have been in that cool manner even when the entire team was under pressure. I just wish best of luck to Team Liquid, technically they still have the whole roster just like the past 2 TIs but only replaced by one players going with retirement first with Matumbaman and now with zai.

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Quote from: Beparanf on November 12, 2023, 12:28:15 PM

Quote from: boyptc on November 12, 2023, 09:44:52 AM

Boom Esports has just announced their new Dota 2 roster with the following players:

Pakazs
SLATEM$
Sacred
Matthew
Mjz

It's an all Peruvian lineup, so Boom Esports moves to South America?

Sources
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723701215589175720
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723687193456279996
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723672008758874565

Their location is already updated to South America on Liquipedia while their coach and manager is also from South America that confirms their change of region. I won’t blame them since it’s much easier to accumulate points in there than SEA that full competitive roster.

I notice too that some SA and NA players are also moving in different region. I believe there’s a lot of reshuffle going on all teams especially some intercontinental transfer like Wisper is now on OG.

Yeah, there are a lot of players from those regions that are exploring and trying to get into new teams. Well as for Boom Esports, they're now ready to explore on SA with these known players as well so good luck to them because they don't have luck in SEA.

And the other players from SA and NA are Wisper and Ari respectively, and both of them now have joined OG.

--> https://twitter.com/OGesports/status/1723723349157658758

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 12, 2023, 01:41:32 PM

Quote from: Beparanf on November 12, 2023, 12:28:15 PM

Their location is already updated to South America on Liquipedia while their coach and manager is also from South America that confirms their change of region. I won’t blame them since it’s much easier to accumulate points in there than SEA that full competitive roster.

Valve has scraped the DPC system so I guess the next qualification wont be based off points like the previous DPC, Link Here. Its probably due to the wages of the players because I highly doubt that SEA players receive less in average compared to SA region players so yeah thats probably one of the reasons. Second reason that I could think off is probably the regional qualification to TI or other compeititon and yeah its less competitive to get those slots in SA compared to SEA

I’m not aware that DPC is already removed but I kinda like to give importance to all the tournaments since some teams doesn’t take seriously those none DPC tournaments since the reward is small in addition that it has no DPC points.

I don’t know what will be the new structure for TI but I remember the old format was there’s a direct invite team and a separate tournament for all the qualifiers. If this will be the new format then I guess it will be better to give chance to all team even small to enter TI that can’t farm DPC points due to lower division.

As the article mention. Surely the reward on every tournament will surely drop probably valve will all-in now on the TI prize to boost the prize pool since this year is pretty low compared to previous TI.

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Quote from: Beparanf on November 12, 2023, 12:28:15 PM

Their location is already updated to South America on Liquipedia while their coach and manager is also from South America that confirms their change of region. I won’t blame them since it’s much easier to accumulate points in there than SEA that full competitive roster.

Valve has scraped the DPC system so I guess the next qualification wont be based off points like the previous DPC, Link Here. Its probably due to the wages of the players because I highly doubt that SEA players receive less in average compared to SA region players so yeah thats probably one of the reasons. Second reason that I could think off is probably the regional qualification to TI or other compeititon and yeah its less competitive to get those slots in SA compared to SEA

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Quote from: boyptc on November 12, 2023, 09:44:52 AM

Boom Esports has just announced their new Dota 2 roster with the following players:

Pakazs
SLATEM$
Sacred
Matthew
Mjz

It's an all Peruvian lineup, so Boom Esports moves to South America?

Sources
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723701215589175720
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723687193456279996
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723672008758874565

Their location is already updated to South America on Liquipedia while their coach and manager is also from South America that confirms their change of region. I won’t blame them since it’s much easier to accumulate points in there than SEA that full competitive roster.

I notice too that some SA and NA players are also moving in different region. I believe there’s a lot of reshuffle going on all teams especially some intercontinental transfer like Wisper is now on OG.

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Quote from: arallmuus on October 31, 2023, 03:38:45 PM

Anyone fancy of picking outright winner for Worlds? I just want Faker to win another one lol

Its looking really good right now on this outright bet Tongue

Told you guys that we gotta trust Faker to carry T1 for the 4th Worlds

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Getting decent profit from all those T1 handicap bet. I would have gone for -2.5 on T1 but Rollbit had no option for that hence I went for -1.5 but yeah that works out for me because T1 lost a single map. Still planning to go for handicap bet on the next game for the grand final as well because I think T1 is just way better

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Boom Esports has just announced their new Dota 2 roster with the following players:

Pakazs
SLATEM$
Sacred
Matthew
Mjz

It's an all Peruvian lineup, so Boom Esports moves to South America?

Sources
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723701215589175720
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723687193456279996
--> https://twitter.com/boomesportsid/status/1723672008758874565

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Quote from: passwordnow on November 11, 2023, 04:43:59 AM

Quote from: sompitonov on November 11, 2023, 03:30:32 AM

I noticed that the Tundra was falling apart right before my eyes. They had problems with the mental component and they were not even helped by a personal psychologist who constantly set them up for the game. One of the culprits of all this was 33, who was dissatisfied all the time and brought even more chaos into this, saying that no one went into the forest with him when he asked. The psychologist was not even afraid to talk about it directly, that the team had obvious problems, and in the end he was right. Nine actually said that he would take a long break from Dota. It's hard to believe that these players were the ones who won TI11, and very confidently. In fact, it is very interesting to watch the further winners of TI11 and TI10, because the TS gained even more strength after that, and the Tundra, unfortunately, weakened altogether.

I don't have an idea of how it goes in the actuality with their own conversations and how they're dealing with each other. But prior to their TI title, they're actually a good team and they've got all the best mentality and that's how we a team get the TI title. They're just like a chill team and they're all good with their respective heroes and roles.

And we have to wait for further announcements on how it is going to be with the team and who's going to replace the entire roster because I guess that Topson will also be out of the team or we will get some surprising news from them. Besides that, it's still one of the best teams but having no longer the original team that has taken and lifted the aegis once, this makes them a complete different team these days.

It's actually quite easy to find different videos of the team communicating before or after the game. There you can see the mood of the players, communication, those who behave hot-tempered and undermine the atmosphere in the team. This was mainly done by 33. Today I read his interview in which 33 said that a representative from Liu contacted him several months ago and told him that zai would end his career after the TI. Before TI12, he had no intention of leaving Tundra, but after many misunderstandings and problems in the team, he finally decided to take this step.

Now it’s interesting to see how he will feel in the new team and whether there will be even bigger problems there. In the end, this is the winner of TI11 and you need to treat him with respect)

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The CS Asia Championships 2023 is happening right now. I diidn't check the game times before and was surprised that the first semi final was already played with MOUZ winning against Astralis 2-1. The second semi final match is starting in a few minutes and will be ENCE vs FaZe. FaZe is such a strong team at the moment, they are the clear favourite for today. I put my money on them to reach the finals. The grand final is going to be played in 3 hours and will likely be MOUZ vs FaZe. It's nice to see MOUZ playing so well in CS2 and I would also give them a championship title, but it doesn't seem realistic at the moment. The two teams played like in 3 tournaments against each other in the last 4 weeks and every time FaZe won either 2-1 or 2-0. The two teams met in the group stage where FaZe also won 2-1. My money is on FaZe winning the tournament today.

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Quote from: sompitonov on November 11, 2023, 03:30:32 AM

I noticed that the Tundra was falling apart right before my eyes. They had problems with the mental component and they were not even helped by a personal psychologist who constantly set them up for the game. One of the culprits of all this was 33, who was dissatisfied all the time and brought even more chaos into this, saying that no one went into the forest with him when he asked. The psychologist was not even afraid to talk about it directly, that the team had obvious problems, and in the end he was right. Nine actually said that he would take a long break from Dota. It's hard to believe that these players were the ones who won TI11, and very confidently. In fact, it is very interesting to watch the further winners of TI11 and TI10, because the TS gained even more strength after that, and the Tundra, unfortunately, weakened altogether.

I don't have an idea of how it goes in the actuality with their own conversations and how they're dealing with each other. But prior to their TI title, they're actually a good team and they've got all the best mentality and that's how we a team get the TI title. They're just like a chill team and they're all good with their respective heroes and roles.

And we have to wait for further announcements on how it is going to be with the team and who's going to replace the entire roster because I guess that Topson will also be out of the team or we will get some surprising news from them. Besides that, it's still one of the best teams but having no longer the original team that has taken and lifted the aegis once, this makes them a complete different team these days.

Quote from: Peanutswar on November 11, 2023, 04:11:32 AM

After Shopify Rebellion announce that they would release Crit- and Abed unexpectedly one of the top tier industry in the world of E-sports Boss Tryke Gutierez, post into his Facebook account a picture of Abed playing a billiard and also in the Stream of Kuku Dota and Tims they are keep saying theres a top player will come in the PH just to play and imagine Abed is Back from the PH and after a couple of days Blacklist posted a Roster full team of Pinoy pride..

Tims
Carlo
Abed
Raven
Gabbi

No roles announce yet but i expect here Abed mid, Gabbi Off, Raven Safelane, Carlo Hard support and Tims as Pos 4.

The roles are obvious for respective players. What this team needs now is a foreigner coach because if they're going to get someone who's local, I don't think that there's someone who fits that position. If they will take kuku as a coach, that doesn't look good as well because he's like a laggard now and past his prime. Although experience wise, he can still contribute to the team but IMO, it's better fit to a foreigner coach from other regions.

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After Shopify Rebellion announce that they would release Crit- and Abed unexpectedly one of the top tier industry in the world of E-sports Boss Tryke Gutierez, post into his Facebook account a picture of Abed playing a billiard and also in the Stream of Kuku Dota and Tims they are keep saying theres a top player will come in the PH just to play and imagine Abed is Back from the PH and after a couple of days Blacklist posted a Roster full team of Pinoy pride..

Tims
Carlo
Abed
Raven
Gabbi

No roles announce yet but i expect here Abed mid, Gabbi Off, Raven Safelane, Carlo Hard support and Tims as Pos 4.

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I noticed that the Tundra was falling apart right before my eyes. They had problems with the mental component and they were not even helped by a personal psychologist who constantly set them up for the game. One of the culprits of all this was 33, who was dissatisfied all the time and brought even more chaos into this, saying that no one went into the forest with him when he asked. The psychologist was not even afraid to talk about it directly, that the team had obvious problems, and in the end he was right. Nine actually said that he would take a long break from Dota. It's hard to believe that these players were the ones who won TI11, and very confidently. In fact, it is very interesting to watch the further winners of TI11 and TI10, because the TS gained even more strength after that, and the Tundra, unfortunately, weakened altogether.

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 09, 2023, 06:42:21 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on November 09, 2023, 06:27:54 PM

So there is goes, the roster shuffle has already happened for some teams. But before that, the news about Team Spirit participating the ESL Kuala Lumpur won't happen anymore because they've just said that they need to take more rest and due to health issues and that's why they're not going to participate the tournament.

Okay, moving on, Team Secret has put Heen into inactive as their coach and the same goes for Armel. They have a new roster now, they've added two players on their roster since FBZ was just a loan so, there goes the mid laner and their offlane namely;

MidOne
BOOM

That's the two additions plus Puppey, yamich and Crystallis.

It looks like Puppey is really confidenet with MidOne. They worked for quite some time and the guy seems to be an okay core overall, although compared to the new cores that are appearing left and right, he's nowhere near the top. He can use the likes of Puppey and Crystallis for help in winning games.

AFAIK, they've got some beef before and that's why MidOne has left the team or he was kicked. But maybe both of them has moved on already so, that's a good luck for their new roster.

Quote from: dothebeats on November 09, 2023, 06:42:21 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on November 09, 2023, 06:27:54 PM

For Tundra Esports, only 33 is left on the original roster. Nine, sneyking and skiter are out of the roster while we know that saksa is on health recovering. Skiter, sneyking, ATF, ma1rine and cr1t will be playing for Team Falcons.
Source: https://hawk.live/posts/team-falcons-roster-announced-dota-2

There will be more from the roster shuffles, so let's discuss guys.

Perhaps this is the reason why Tundra wants to buy all of GG. Then again, there are some players who are rumored to leave the org, so I don't know if this will serve Tundra any good or not.

And that rumors tend to be true and they're not left with anyone anymore except Topson but it is most likely that he's also going to leave the team soon.

Quote from: arallmuus on November 10, 2023, 02:11:04 PM

Aside from that, Im not sure why Puppey decide to take back Midone alongside BOOM that he kicked out before lol.

He probably left with no other options as of now huh especially because they gotta start on division 2 (?). Im not sure if they actually will because Valve decided to scratch off the DPC so that means every teams will start on the same division this 1st season? Pretty weird that they have announced nothing so far

Yeah, both was kicked AFAIK. Actually, he's got a lot of option if he's willing to explore more and that's why a lot of roster shuffles always happen post-TI. But since it's just a month away til the ESL Kuala Lumpur happens, they need also preparation and that's why he has decided just to get back the two.

Quote from: ralle14 on November 09, 2023, 09:27:26 PM

Also, the TI winners won't participate in the ESL One KL as an update was posted through ESL's Twitter . Now i'm curious to see the teams participating in the closed qualifiers since they got the extra slot from TS.

That's sad. I guess that they're going to observe the participating teams while taking a rest that they deserve. They're gonna go into hibernation and will only comeback when the prize pool for a tournament is a lot and they need to take it. LOL.

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 09, 2023, 06:42:21 PM

It looks like Puppey is really confident with MidOne.

If I could bet on when will Midone got kicked out of the team then I would bet on after the 1st Major. This dude cant do nothing at all and did anyone actually watch how team SMG got wrecked in TI? Yeah he made it to TI with SMG but that means nothing at all. Aside from that, Im not sure why Puppey decide to take back Midone alongside BOOM that he kicked out before lol.

He probably left with no other options as of now huh especially because they gotta start on division 2 (?). Im not sure if they actually will because Valve decided to scratch off the DPC so that means every teams will start on the same division this 1st season? Pretty weird that they have announced nothing so far

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The semi-finals in Worlds are about to start as of tomorrow. I have already indicated my opinion on the JDG - T1 matchup. I'm not expecting T1 to be the same as the last MSI. They are performing much better in Worlds tournaments compared to that. I expect T1 to reach the finale by a close score.

When it comes to the WBG - BLG series I'm much closer to BLG side here. BLG defeated Gen.G by 3-2 before reaching this stage. I mean Gen.G were the number one team in Korea before coming to Worlds. Currently I see Korea and China teams are the best in League of Legends. As a result I don't think WBG can resist BLG too much.

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 09, 2023, 09:27:26 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on November 09, 2023, 06:42:21 PM

There is a possibility that this will not pan out. Tundra is not getting valuable in the acquisition. Might as well just get better players if that's their goal, rather than buy the whole organization which is just an absolute waste of money. They would eliminate some competitions in the region though, which is great, but I'm pretty sure it will easily get replaced with a lot of newer teams comprised of old and new players.

At first, I thought it might just be GG wanting to see how valuable their squad would get if they put their squad up for grabs and maybe they're running out of options. Finding good players could save them money but it might become difficult to pull off now that more orgs are stepping into the scene.

Also, the TI winners won't participate in the ESL One KL as an update was posted through ESL's Twitter . Now i'm curious to see the teams participating in the closed qualifiers since they got the extra slot from TS.

I opened a news site with reshuffles of many teams and I didn’t have the patience to read it all when someone left one and moved to another. Too much happens in 2 days. I'd rather wait for ESL One KL and then look at the team lineups.

In my opinion, the fact that TS won't go to ESL One KL is very good and allows some teams to also express themselves. I’m not the only one, I think, who will find the tournament much more interesting because of this it won’t be dry matches in which Team Spirit wins everything, but perhaps this might not happen due to the loss of motivation after winning TI12.

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 09, 2023, 06:42:21 PM

There is a possibility that this will not pan out. Tundra is not getting valuable in the acquisition. Might as well just get better players if that's their goal, rather than buy the whole organization which is just an absolute waste of money. They would eliminate some competitions in the region though, which is great, but I'm pretty sure it will easily get replaced with a lot of newer teams comprised of old and new players.

At first, I thought it might just be GG wanting to see how valuable their squad would get if they put their squad up for grabs and maybe they're running out of options. Finding good players could save them money but it might become difficult to pull off now that more orgs are stepping into the scene.

Also, the TI winners won't participate in the ESL One KL as an update was posted through ESL's Twitter . Now i'm curious to see the teams participating in the closed qualifiers since they got the extra slot from TS.

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 09, 2023, 12:00:25 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on November 08, 2023, 04:44:54 PM

Organization wise, Tundra is somehow better than GG. Perhaps they want to make GG as a sister organization, or want to rebrand their whole organization as a whole after this purchase. i don't understand these buyouts on the esports scene because they don't mean much compared to sports acquisition wherein teams are merged together for 'better' results in performance..

That's true. Tundra's total winnings are nearly tripled compared to GG, but it still has a chance to not go through if GG can't get the most out of this potential buyout from Tundra.

There is a possibility that this will not pan out. Tundra is not getting valuable in the acquisition. Might as well just get better players if that's their goal, rather than buy the whole organization which is just an absolute waste of money. They would eliminate some competitions in the region though, which is great, but I'm pretty sure it will easily get replaced with a lot of newer teams comprised of old and new players.

Quote from: passwordnow on November 09, 2023, 06:27:54 PM

So there is goes, the roster shuffle has already happened for some teams. But before that, the news about Team Spirit participating the ESL Kuala Lumpur won't happen anymore because they've just said that they need to take more rest and due to health issues and that's why they're not going to participate the tournament.

Okay, moving on, Team Secret has put Heen into inactive as their coach and the same goes for Armel. They have a new roster now, they've added two players on their roster since FBZ was just a loan so, there goes the mid laner and their offlane namely;

MidOne
BOOM

That's the two additions plus Puppey, yamich and Crystallis.

It looks like Puppey is really confidenet with MidOne. They worked for quite some time and the guy seems to be an okay core overall, although compared to the new cores that are appearing left and right, he's nowhere near the top. He can use the likes of Puppey and Crystallis for help in winning games.

Quote from: passwordnow on November 09, 2023, 06:27:54 PM

For Tundra Esports, only 33 is left on the original roster. Nine, sneyking and skiter are out of the roster while we know that saksa is on health recovering. Skiter, sneyking, ATF, ma1rine and cr1t will be playing for Team Falcons.
Source: https://hawk.live/posts/team-falcons-roster-announced-dota-2

There will be more from the roster shuffles, so let's discuss guys.

Perhaps this is the reason why Tundra wants to buy all of GG. Then again, there are some players who are rumored to leave the org, so I don't know if this will serve Tundra any good or not.

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So there is goes, the roster shuffle has already happened for some teams. But before that, the news about Team Spirit participating the ESL Kuala Lumpur won't happen anymore because they've just said that they need to take more rest and due to health issues and that's why they're not going to participate the tournament.

Okay, moving on, Team Secret has put Heen into inactive as their coach and the same goes for Armel. They have a new roster now, they've added two players on their roster since FBZ was just a loan so, there goes the mid laner and their offlane namely;

MidOne
BOOM

That's the two additions plus Puppey, yamich and Crystallis.

For Tundra Esports, only 33 is left on the original roster. Nine, sneyking and skiter are out of the roster while we know that saksa is on health recovering. Skiter, sneyking, ATF, ma1rine and cr1t will be playing for Team Falcons.
Source: https://hawk.live/posts/team-falcons-roster-announced-dota-2

There will be more from the roster shuffles, so let's discuss guys.

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