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legendary
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December 12, 2017, 03:27:38 PM

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

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There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

Cool

You're confusing cause and effect with predeterminism... this entire goddamned thread. Go get some mental help.

You might be. But if you think you are not, can you explain why C&E wouldn't fit evolution?

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Can you explain why 8 doesn't fit onomatopoeia? See how retarded you sound?

Nope! I can't presently "explain why 8 doesn't fit onomatopoeia?" But can you explain how C&E fit together with evolution, and yet present the spontaneity (randomness) required for there to be random mutations it it?

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hero member
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December 12, 2017, 03:26:02 PM

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

Cool

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

Cool

True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution.

Simply because the mutation causes are the effects of other causes, all the way back to the Beginning. Programming.

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Yes all the way back to the beginning but not programming. Where do you get the programming part from?
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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
December 12, 2017, 03:25:27 PM
You go right ahead and do that. And if you ever understand what is being expressed in this topic, you can come back out into reality.

You are now asking other people to stick their hands in the sand with you?  Not going to work - we have the internet you know.   Wink

legendary
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December 12, 2017, 03:24:29 PM
I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing.  Smiley

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

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You're projecting again. Have you ever been in school before? I'm assuming you've dropped out at the age of 10 before learning basics of science. Judging by everything you've posted, that seems to be the case.

The difference between you and me is:
1. I project (by posting) that evolution is wrong, and why;
2. You project (by posting) that evolution is right, and in place of why, all you do is badmouth those who can give a reason why evolution is wrong.

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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
December 12, 2017, 03:24:13 PM
Actually, I won any argument we might have been having? Why? Because I accept that you have free will to continue to be incorrect, and to remain unenlightened.

You can only control yourself.  You can't change the fact I won the argument.

You vs. the entire world.  Romantic but eventually you will bow to peer pressure and give up your fairy tale. 

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legendary
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December 12, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 Cheesy

What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on.

What you don't seem to understand is that mutations cause by lab work are not in the same category as those caused in nature, and neither of them are in the same category of those caused by evolution theory methods. In other words, until we actually find a natural beneficial mutation that is not a simple change programmed into nature, evolution belongs to the realm of science fiction, or hoax, depending on who the perpetrator of it is.

Cool

So lab environments are excluded from nature now? Cool, I'll just walk into a lab and expect gravity to stop functioning, because ya know, it's only a theory.

You go right ahead and do that. And if you ever understand what is being expressed in this topic, you can come back out into reality.

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legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
December 12, 2017, 03:19:19 PM

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

Cool

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

Cool

True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution.

Simply because the mutation causes are the effects of other causes, all the way back to the Beginning. Programming.

Cool
full member
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December 12, 2017, 03:18:33 PM

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

Cool

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

Cool

You're confusing cause and effect with predeterminism... this entire goddamned thread. Go get some mental help.

You might be. But if you think you are not, can you explain why C&E wouldn't fit evolution?

Cool

Can you explain why 8 doesn't fit onomatopoeia? See how retarded you sound?
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
December 12, 2017, 03:17:16 PM

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

Cool

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

Cool

You're confusing cause and effect with predeterminism... this entire goddamned thread. Go get some mental help.

You might be. But if you think you are not, can you explain why C&E wouldn't fit evolution?

Cool
full member
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December 12, 2017, 03:16:42 PM
I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing.  Smiley

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

Cool

You're projecting again. Have you ever been in school before? I'm assuming you've dropped out at the age of 10 before learning basics of science. Judging by everything you've posted, that seems to be the case.
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
December 12, 2017, 03:15:40 PM
I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing.  Smiley

The more you blab the things that you think you know, without being able to express why they are the way you express, the deeper into the sand you go, head first.

Cool
full member
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Merit: 152
December 12, 2017, 03:14:36 PM
One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 Cheesy

What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on.

What you don't seem to understand is that mutations cause by lab work are not in the same category as those caused in nature, and neither of them are in the same category of those caused by evolution theory methods. In other words, until we actually find a natural beneficial mutation that is not a simple change programmed into nature, evolution belongs to the realm of science fiction, or hoax, depending on who the perpetrator of it is.

Cool

So lab environments are excluded from nature now? Cool, I'll just walk into a lab and expect gravity to stop functioning, because ya know, it's only a theory.
hero member
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Merit: 645
December 12, 2017, 03:13:24 PM

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

Cool

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

Cool

True they had a cause, not a programmed cause, just a cause. Why are you saying programmed cause? They were not programmed they just have causes that we can't really predict because we don't have all the variables but not matter what the exact causes were it still true that the organism adapted to them and evolved. You are not disproving evolution.
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
December 12, 2017, 03:11:50 PM
One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 Cheesy

What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on.

What you don't seem to understand is that mutations cause by lab work are not in the same category as those caused in nature, and neither of them are in the same category of those caused by evolution theory methods. In other words, until we actually find a natural beneficial mutation that is not a simple change programmed into nature, evolution belongs to the realm of science fiction, or hoax, depending on who the perpetrator of it is.

Cool
full member
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December 12, 2017, 03:09:12 PM

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

Cool

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

Cool

You're confusing cause and effect with predeterminism... this entire goddamned thread. Go get some mental help.
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
December 12, 2017, 03:08:06 PM
You are so funny.

I guess when your life is a joke, everything is funny, right BD?

You've lost the argument.  Even the brainwashed fools in your church believe in evolution now.



Actually, I won any argument we might have been having? Why? Because I accept that you have free will to continue to be incorrect, and to remain unenlightened.

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legendary
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Merit: 1389
December 12, 2017, 03:05:56 PM

How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?

How forgetful are you? Or is it that you simply don't read what is posted?

One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

Cool

There is more to evolution than mutation. A small percentage of mutations are beneficial, and selection can cause the beneficial mutations to persist and the harmful mutations to die off. The combination of mutation and selection can create new useful adaptations.

Sometimes things do get built by accident. Many discoveries started out as accidents that people recognized uses for. Many other designs (accidental or not) have been selected against, that is, discarded. Design itself is an evolutionary process.

Experiments and genetic analysis show that mutations (plus selection) do account for new adaptations

There you go, trying to distract. Things that get built by accident, haven't really been built by accident. Oh, it might have looked like they were. But there was C&E moving in it all to make it not an accident.

Mutations are not spontaneous. They were programmed to happen by C&E. No evolution in the way that standard evolution theory says. Are you trying to re-define evolution?

Cool
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
December 12, 2017, 03:02:47 PM
I don't have to believe.

Again, pull your head out of the sand and look around to see what other people are doing.  Smiley
hero member
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December 12, 2017, 03:02:17 PM
One of the bottom line premises of evolution is mutation without a cause behind it. Since the only real "evolution" we have seen is in the lab, it has been caused by us, the people. So, lab-caused evolution doesn't even fit the theory of evolution.

The entire world believes in evolution, save for the one soul that somehow knows better than everyone...

BD, pull your head out of the sand and experience reality.

You are so funny. That we know of, the world isn't sentient. It doesn't believe or not believe anything.

Put on the coffee so you can wake up and smell it.

 Cheesy

What you don't understand is that although mutations have causes it doesn't mean the causes are there on purpose to create what they created. There is nothing that suggests the cause of a mutation was set in place by a god, it's just a cause that was caused by another cause and so on.
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
December 12, 2017, 03:02:13 PM
Science shows that evolution didn't happen. This means that everyone in authority who says it happened, is promoting a hoax.

Science proves evolution. 

You are the only person on the planet now who doesn't believe that.  Sad

I don't have to believe. If I did, it would take me into that religion. Rather, I know by science that evolution has been scientifically proven to be false.

Since there are some evolution promoters who know this, too, evolution is one of their hoaxes.

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