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Quote from: Astargath on January 09, 2019, 01:42:24 PM

''But neither do you know, just quoting random million of years as if you actually could determine that.'' We can with science, of course idiots like you don't think it's possible, have you looked into it? Have you studied it? Nah, better to believe a book. hehe

Prove that science has left nothing out of the equation(s) for determining even the approximate age of the earth or universe. hehe

Evolution is a hoax.

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Useless argument, you might as well throw all science because we don't know if we missed something somewhere somehow, get a job.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 09, 2019, 01:42:24 PM

''But neither do you know, just quoting random million of years as if you actually could determine that.'' We can with science, of course idiots like you don't think it's possible, have you looked into it? Have you studied it? Nah, better to believe a book. hehe

Prove that science has left nothing out of the equation(s) for determining even the approximate age of the earth or universe. hehe

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: stevenirons21 on January 08, 2019, 02:35:20 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 08, 2019, 06:21:35 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 08, 2019, 06:20:09 AM

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:51:26 PM

The whole idea of millions of years of existence hasn't been proven. All of the points you make have been arbitrarily adjusted to make evolution look real. It's all part of the evolutuion hoax.

Lol I think we have the answer we were looking for.

The guy thinks Earth is 6000 years old, what do you want to discuss with someone like him? xD

He also believes slavery was good at one time and that women are inferior to men and should obey men.

Yeah it's just religious TECSHARE in fact.
Shame those two are homophobic dudes they would be great together xD

Effeminate thinking men, body types of male and female are different for a reason, women are not inferior to man. Women should submit themselves to their husband. Today there's slavery as well, at a global scale what are you talking about? How many hours do you have to work a day? You are not free to do what you want during the day unless you are rich, right? Slavery has always existed, will always exist. We believers might not know how old the earth is, we don't claim to know. But neither do you know, just quoting random million of years as if you actually could determine that.

''But neither do you know, just quoting random million of years as if you actually could determine that.'' We can with science, of course idiots like you don't think it's possible, have you looked into it? Have you studied it? Nah, better to believe a book. hehe

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Quote from: Astargath on January 08, 2019, 06:20:09 AM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 08, 2019, 04:32:16 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:51:26 PM

The whole idea of millions of years of existence hasn't been proven. All of the points you make have been arbitrarily adjusted to make evolution look real. It's all part of the evolutuion hoax.

Lol I think we have the answer we were looking for.

The guy thinks Earth is 6000 years old, what do you want to discuss with someone like him? xD

He also believes slavery was good at one time and that women are inferior to men and should obey men.

The fact that you like to make assumptions about BADecker, and state them as though they were fact, shows that you are acting as a politician, and that you are using the political science art of lying to attempt to make yourself look better than BADecker.

DNA is quite similar across the board regarding all animals. One site that shows what I mean is Quora:

Quote from: https://www.quora.com/How-much-DNA-do-humans-share-with-lizards

Humans and chickens share 65 percent of their DNA.

Of the great apes, humans share 98.8 percent of their DNA with bonobos and chimpanzees.

Humans and dogs share 84 percent of their DNA.

But, here is the big question regarding all that:

Is the so-called sharing of DNA because all animals have a common ancestor (evolution)?...

... or is it because they were all made to be distinct and separate animals, having similar DNA in areas, ONLY so that they could live together on a single world?

Science has not proven either of these. Many people speak as though science has proven one or the other.

When a person says something that he thinks is true, and doesn't state that he only believes it without proof, he is perpetuation a hoax. Since this thread is about the evolution hoax rather than the hoaxes of formal religions...

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 08, 2019, 06:21:35 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 08, 2019, 06:20:09 AM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 08, 2019, 04:32:16 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:51:26 PM

The whole idea of millions of years of existence hasn't been proven. All of the points you make have been arbitrarily adjusted to make evolution look real. It's all part of the evolutuion hoax.

Lol I think we have the answer we were looking for.

The guy thinks Earth is 6000 years old, what do you want to discuss with someone like him? xD

He also believes slavery was good at one time and that women are inferior to men and should obey men.

Yeah it's just religious TECSHARE in fact.
Shame those two are homophobic dudes they would be great together xD

Effeminate thinking men, body types of male and female are different for a reason, women are not inferior to man. Women should submit themselves to their husband. Today there's slavery as well, at a global scale what are you talking about? How many hours do you have to work a day? You are not free to do what you want during the day unless you are rich, right? Slavery has always existed, will always exist. We believers might not know how old the earth is, we don't claim to know. But neither do you know, just quoting random million of years as if you actually could determine that.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 08, 2019, 06:20:09 AM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 08, 2019, 04:32:16 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:51:26 PM

The whole idea of millions of years of existence hasn't been proven. All of the points you make have been arbitrarily adjusted to make evolution look real. It's all part of the evolutuion hoax.

Lol I think we have the answer we were looking for.

The guy thinks Earth is 6000 years old, what do you want to discuss with someone like him? xD

He also believes slavery was good at one time and that women are inferior to men and should obey men.

Yeah it's just religious TECSHARE in fact.
Shame those two are homophobic dudes they would be great together xD

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 08, 2019, 04:32:16 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:51:26 PM

The whole idea of millions of years of existence hasn't been proven. All of the points you make have been arbitrarily adjusted to make evolution look real. It's all part of the evolutuion hoax.

Lol I think we have the answer we were looking for.

The guy thinks Earth is 6000 years old, what do you want to discuss with someone like him? xD

He also believes slavery was good at one time and that women are inferior to men and should obey men.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:51:26 PM

The whole idea of millions of years of existence hasn't been proven. All of the points you make have been arbitrarily adjusted to make evolution look real. It's all part of the evolutuion hoax.

Lol I think we have the answer we were looking for.

The guy thinks Earth is 6000 years old, what do you want to discuss with someone like him? xD

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:18:44 PM

~snip...load of bollocks~

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:22:01 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 06:44:22 AM

By the way, there is something I don't understand.

If you believe evolution is a hoax, does that mean humans have always existed? Or where do we come from?

~snip...load of bollocks~
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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:24:44 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2019, 06:54:25 AM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 06:43:14 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 06:29:59 AM

~snip...load of bollocks~

So, after you literaly said "not a majority of scientists believe in evolution" you admit you're wrong at least?

HE WONT ADMIT ANYTHING EVER. I showed him statistics plenty of times and he never admits to be wrong, he is a delusional idiot, nothing to do with him.

~snip...load of bollocks~
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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:33:59 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 08:51:21 AM

Still, evolution is real and has been largely proven. That evolution exists because of God is out of the subject because no one will ever prove that it's true or false.

~snip...load of bollocks~

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:38:04 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 09:14:42 AM

Facts are:
-Evolution is no longer a theory but a proven fact of how species evolve
-Evolution occures mainly by small changes of DNA that are, or not, selected in the specie

~snip...load of bollocks~

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:42:52 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on January 07, 2019, 09:23:24 AM

Even if you assume that everything you (or Lennon, or any other schmuck) says is true (which you cannot prove), it still does not answer a question who created your personal Creator?

~snip...load of bollocks~
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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:49:20 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on January 07, 2019, 09:44:21 AM

Quote from: ATMD on January 07, 2019, 09:39:11 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on January 07, 2019, 09:23:24 AM

Even if you assume that everything you (or Lennon, or any other schmuck) says is true (which you cannot prove), it still does not answer a question who created your personal Creator?

Okey, dokey. Problem "solved".

Thanks, genius.

~snip...load of bollocks~

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:51:26 PM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 09:51:47 AM

Quote from: ATMD on January 07, 2019, 09:35:50 AM

Good questions.

Evolution is still a theory for how different species arise, there is no evidence for that, and I find this is really important. We still need to be able to observe speciation in action in a laboratory or research facility to provide evidence for that. Personally I would like to see it too as I view this as being the ultimate proof for macro-evolution. Yes I know the process is slow and takes millions of years but this is why the mechanism is not testable nor falsifiable.

You mean how new species appear?

Well that's quite easy and has been largely proved...

Best example would be the chicken, easy and you know what it is today.

Chicken comes directly from reptiles just like all the other birds we know. How do we know that? Here is how we proceed:

-First we inventorize all the different species we can find
-Then we date them to be able to make a chronological timeline of the species
-Afterthat we try to regroup the species having common physical caracteristics
-Ultimately when we suspect there is a lineage between two or more species we check their DNA to see if one has indeed the genetic legacy of the other

Here is a more complete analysis of the reptile timeline for example and how we see that one is the descendant of the other: http://www.snakegenomics.org/CastoeLab/Publications_files/Shaney_etal.BookChapter.pdf

If that's not evolution... Then how did the chicken appear? It didn't exist 40 millions year ago so how did it appear all of a sudden if that's not evolution?

~snip...load of bollocks~

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 03:53:45 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2019, 10:00:25 AM

Well, that's because us humans are not intelligent enough or our brains aren't good enough to comprehend certain things. We know however that complexity can arise from very very simple rules. To you it might seem that life needs a creator or intelligent designer but the reality might be different, evidence certainly suggests so.

~snip...load of bollocks~

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 04:14:59 PM

~snip...utter and absolute load of bollocks~

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Small wonder that an ignorant nutter who denies 100 plus years of science on the fact of evolution that all biology microbiology and modern medicine is based on,
doesn't know how to combine replies in one post and instead blatantly breaks forum rules by multi posting his 'evolution is a hoax" nonsense.

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Besides. To prove evolution, we will ultimately run into the uncertainty principle, or the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. We will never be able to prove evolution. They are hoaxing you when they tell you that evolution is real.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 10:42:21 AM

Quote from: ATMD on January 07, 2019, 10:38:35 AM

Yes thanks, I mean both methods actually. I understand the concept of half life and counting backwards but is there evidence that it has been used to date something accurately? How do we know this rock is 10 millions years old, for example. How do we prove that the radioactive method dated it accurately? Radioactive method says it should be 10 million years old, but how do we know this reading to be definitely true?

Well it's easy:

-If half life measurement is right then it means datation is right?
-If half life measurement is false it means we misunderstood how radioactivity works right?

Then how comes radioactivity works perfectly in all the millions of way we're using it daily (especially on medical field) for scanners, IRM, radiology, radiation therapy and all?

We know it's accurate because if it was not it would mean we understood badly radiation and we couldn't use it as precisely as we are doing right now.

I'm not sure I understand your concern.

For there to exist as much C-14 today as there is, virtually the whole world would have had to have been made of C-14 a million years ago. The whole idea of using carbon dating for beyond a few years is completely flawed.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2019, 10:00:25 AM

Well, that's because us humans are not intelligent enough or our brains aren't good enough to comprehend certain things. We know however that complexity can arise from very very simple rules. To you it might seem that life needs a creator or intelligent designer but the reality might be different, evidence certainly suggests so.

Actually, we don't know this at all. Everything that shows this also shows programming via DNA. This means that the appearance of complexity arising from simplicity exists without the fact of it.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 09:51:47 AM

Quote from: ATMD on January 07, 2019, 09:35:50 AM

Good questions.

Evolution is still a theory for how different species arise, there is no evidence for that, and I find this is really important. We still need to be able to observe speciation in action in a laboratory or research facility to provide evidence for that. Personally I would like to see it too as I view this as being the ultimate proof for macro-evolution. Yes I know the process is slow and takes millions of years but this is why the mechanism is not testable nor falsifiable.

You mean how new species appear?

Well that's quite easy and has been largely proved...

Best example would be the chicken, easy and you know what it is today.

Chicken comes directly from reptiles just like all the other birds we know. How do we know that? Here is how we proceed:

-First we inventorize all the different species we can find
-Then we date them to be able to make a chronological timeline of the species
-Afterthat we try to regroup the species having common physical caracteristics
-Ultimately when we suspect there is a lineage between two or more species we check their DNA to see if one has indeed the genetic legacy of the other

Here is a more complete analysis of the reptile timeline for example and how we see that one is the descendant of the other: http://www.snakegenomics.org/CastoeLab/Publications_files/Shaney_etal.BookChapter.pdf

If that's not evolution... Then how did the chicken appear? It didn't exist 40 millions year ago so how did it appear all of a sudden if that's not evolution?

The whole idea of millions of years of existence hasn't been proven. All of the points you make have been arbitrarily adjusted to make evolution look real. It's all part of the evolutuion hoax.

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Quote from: af_newbie on January 07, 2019, 09:44:21 AM

Quote from: ATMD on January 07, 2019, 09:39:11 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on January 07, 2019, 09:23:24 AM

Even if you assume that everything you (or Lennon, or any other schmuck) says is true (which you cannot prove), it still does not answer a question who created your personal Creator?

This personal creator is eternal, always in existence, no point of origin.

Okey, dokey. Problem "solved".

Thanks, genius.

The point isn't knowing for a fact what happened. The point is knowing when something is only an idea. When an idea is touted as fact, while it is not known to be a fact, that's when a hoax is involved.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: af_newbie on January 07, 2019, 09:23:24 AM

How did the Big Bang started? We don't know for sure. Probably it was caused by random quantum fluctuations that caused a significant decrease in entropy, causing positive feedback which resulted in the Big Bang. See Poincaré recurrence theorem. Maybe our universe always was and always will be in one form or another, doing Big Rip/Big Bangs every 10^10^10^10^56 years.

The fact that BB only suggests what might have happened, shows that BB is only an idea, like evolution. BB is far too incomplete to explain much of what we see in the universe, especially life. And the possibility for mistakes in BB theory do to things not being accounted for in our view of the past, shows that BB is a distraction from reality.

Scientists know this about BB. BB is a hoax, just like evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: af_newbie on January 07, 2019, 09:23:24 AM

Even if you assume that everything you (or Lennon, or any other schmuck) says is true (which you cannot prove), it still does not answer a question who created your personal Creator?

But you don't even want to recognize that you are a personal character.

Creation is something that everything in the universe has to have. We haven't found anything spontaneous ever happening.

The Universe had to have been made by something outside the universe... according to the way the universe works.

We don't know that something outside the universe had to have a creator. Since creation stuff is part of the universe, it follows that stuff outside the universe - including the Creator - always existed.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 09:14:42 AM

Facts are:
-Evolution is no longer a theory but a proven fact of how species evolve
-Evolution occures mainly by small changes of DNA that are, or not, selected in the specie

Facts are:
- Evolution is an idea that is proven only to be an idea.
- The evolution idea suggests that evolution occurs mainly by small changes in DNA.

Neither of these has been proven to produce changes from one creature to another in nature.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 08:51:21 AM

Still, evolution is real and has been largely proven. That evolution exists because of God is out of the subject because no one will ever prove that it's true or false.

Everything that is called evolution fits something else better, like adaptation, like-begets-like, or simple change. Certainly you can call these things evolution, but that isn't the kind of evolution we are talking about. We are talking about evolution theory evolution (ETE).

There is no ETE. The DNA has never been examined for creatures over thousands of years where it might be proven that evolution. Since there is no DNA examination, how do we know that there were ETE changes? There simply might have been an extremely wide variety of creatures, without evolution. No proof.

In fact, the whole idea of DNA suggests programming through cause and effect. There is no true random, like there would have to be for natural selection to exist in some way. The only random that we have is the random of the ignorance of people to understand and know the cause and effect actions. Since people don't know, why do they say that they do? The whole ETE thing is a hoax, a religion, even a cult.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2019, 06:54:25 AM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 07, 2019, 06:43:14 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2019, 06:29:59 AM

Even if the majority of scientists believed evolution, so what?

So, after you literaly said "not a majority of scientists believe in evolution" you admit you're wrong at least?

HE WONT ADMIT ANYTHING EVER. I showed him statistics plenty of times and he never admits to be wrong, he is a delusional idiot, nothing to do with him.

You simply don't want to understand that there isn't any proof for evolution of the theory kind. How do we know that there isn't? Nobody has shown any. Show some, and show why it is proof.

Evolution is a hoax, and you know it.

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